| I think most people who have seen romance/comedy/SOL/school/harem anime have observed that it's usually the Tsundere character that in the end steals the heart of the protagonist even if he wasn't into her in the first place. I've noticed this mostly in the popular ones. I don't want to name them as it counts as spoilers for people who haven't seen them. I'd appreciate it if others would do the same and would not spoil anime for anyone no matter how long ago it was aired. I know that it makes for good story telling to have characters fight or dislike each other in the beginning and over time slowly become affectionate towards each other. It's easier to write about, and gives writers and characters a platform to build a story upon. It's a common trope not only in anime, but in most forms of story telling. What I would like to know is that, is there a particular reason why this trope is so common and popular other than the reasons I mentioned above? What are your thoughts on the matter? |
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| Because they never get together. Except when they do, I hate when they do. |
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| Because it feels so satisfying to break the hard shell of a crab to taste the soft meat inside.... |
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| I guess it's more fun to watch a male character slowly reach the *dere* part of a tsundere. |
DumneGOD said: -Senpai- said: Why would you hate that????? -.- -.-Because they never get together. Except when they do, I hate when they do. Because tsundere characters are objectively the worst girl. |
NasalShark said: I'd love to squeeze your nipples until they look like a purple slushie, Senpai. |
| It seems like Western audiences, who generally have more experience in dealing with the opposing sex during their youth, have a much stronger grudge against tsunderes than their East Asian counterparts. |
| I hate nice girls. If they so much as say hello, it stays on my mind. If they return texts, my heart races. The day one calls me, I know I'll look at my call history and grin. But that's just them being nice. People who are nice to me are also nice to everyone else. I almost end up forgetting that. If the truth is cruel , then lies must be kind. That's why kindness is a lie. I gave up on always expecting it, always mistaking it, and even hoping for it. Someone who's' worked so hard at being alone doesn't fall for the same trick twice. I'm a veteran at this. I’m the best when it comes to losing. That's why I'll always hate nice girls. |
| A tsundere done well is quite lovely (Taiga), especially if the MC is not so dense that it takes him 1 million yrs to reach the dere part. |
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| I always thought that the main love interest was the basic one without personality and is nice, then the next most common one is the childhood friend, an third is the tsundere character. |
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DumneGOD said: Thats its true i dont like them too but why do you hate when the girl gets with the boy?? Because its the tsundere? I'm gonna come clean with you, random guy. I don't care, I really don't. I never think twice before posting and I never will. I don't expect to get into an argument for something as stupid as my posts. That's it, the truth it's out. |
NasalShark said: I'd love to squeeze your nipples until they look like a purple slushie, Senpai. |
| It's become a cliche and the general audience just likes it, I guess. Also, most males are depicted as liking girls that are "hard to get". I personally hate Tsunderes, they really turn me off. The whole concept of it is shit imo. |
| Because mierda sells, nothing more nothing less. |
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Exhalant said: It's become a cliche and the general audience just likes it, I guess. Also, most males are depicted as liking girls that are "hard to get". I personally hate Tsunderes, they really turn me off. The whole concept of it is shit imo. Then why not have an idol love interest? Far less annoying and is the ultimate hard to get girl. |
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| It might have something to do with tsunderes being easy to develop and watching a cold, hard-to-get bitch turn into a sweet, caring lover. But don't take my word for it, I'm just talking out of my ass. |
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| overall people think it's a cute thing. like when they get blushed if other character state some fact or as a question like "you like him, don't you ?" and they get blushed, then started to get mad, rampage with a cute, blushed face, many people found that really cute including me. for example : Mikasa Mikoto from Toaru Kagaku no Railgun and Toaru Majutsu no Index (don't worry, it's not something worth as a spoiler for the series) and there is a possibility that many people might like it because it's funny to watch. |
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Tarotist said: Because it feels so satisfying to break the hard shell of a crab to taste the soft meat inside.... That's a very good analogy. Exhalant said: It's become a cliche and the general audience just likes it, I guess. Also, most males are depicted as liking girls that are "hard to get". I personally hate Tsunderes, they really turn me off. The whole concept of it is shit imo. I don't hate the concept. I'm also not someone who absolutely loves it. The thing about Tsundere characters is that they're usually not 'hard to get'. The MC and Tsundere mutually dislike( or it's just the Tsundere that dislikes the MC and the MC is indifferent ) each other, and both or just the Tsundere over time develop romantic feelings. So, I personally don't think it's the 'hard to get' aspect of it as I feel there is none. Tevens said: overall people think it's a cute thing. like when they get blushed if other character state some fact or as a question like "you like him, don't you ?" and they get blushed, then started to get mad, rampage with a cute, blushed face, many people found that really cute including me. for example : Mikasa Mikoto from Toaru Kagaku no Railgun and Toaru Majutsu no Index (don't worry, it's not something worth as a spoiler for the series) and there is a possibility that many people might like it because it's funny to watch. It does create awkward and funny situations and it's something that's quite easy to write in comparison to something that would be complex. I guess people are simple and like simple things. QABJAB said: I always thought that the main love interest was the basic one without personality and is nice, then the next most common one is the childhood friend, an third is the tsundere character. Yes, all of them are common tropes, but I think the Tsundere is usually in the forefront and wins the MC in the end most of the times. |
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| Cause tsundere is the most appealing obviously. Plus they sell well in japan lol. |
CapitalistGod said: I guess it's more fun to watch a male character slowly reach the *dere* part of a tsundere. Yeah, I'm gonna have to go with this. Another reason might be that people are naturally attracted to stronger personalities, which tsunderes tend to have. |
| Because when they quite being all tsun they are really Sweet and cute, well it depends on the character really, some tsunderes are just unbearable (did i wrote that right?) to watch specially the ones that hurt the MC by the minor of things. I saw somewhere that making a tsunderes fall in love with you its like a achievement but the tsunderes nowadays fall in love with the guy in the first episode or first arc, that really throws away all the concept of the character, nowadays the tsunderes will fall in love with the guy right on the beggining and is painfull as fuck watching they negating the crush in their on minds |
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| Because reaching the center of their hearts and revealing the soft sides they have are the best. |
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| Tsunderes can be pretty interesting to watch and tend to have lots of character development over time as they begin to show more kindness and love. |
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-Senpai- said: Your coments really combine with your fórum picDumneGOD said: Why would you hate that????? -.- -.- Because tsundere characters are objectively the worst girl. |
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| Because of the thrill of the chase! :D |
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| What I would like to know is that, is there a particular reason why this trope is so common and popular other than the reasons I mentioned above? What are your thoughts on the matter? As far as I have seen, the female main interest usually "problematic". And tsundere is the most easiest "problematic" character to write. As for my opinion, I think the author want to describe the male lead as understanding person. |
EsperMay 12, 2016 7:01 PM
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| Because it appeals to otakus and they are really weird. |
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| Because a well written and developed tsundere is already a guaranteed best girl. Examples: Hitagi, Kurisu, Yukino, Rin, etc. |
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| Fuck female tsunderes We need more male ones. |
Ya better start reading more Shoujo manga then xD |
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| Because the Childhood friends are cursed ×_× |
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-Senpai- said: I'm gonna come clean with you, random guy. I don't care, I really don't. I never think twice before posting and I never will. I don't expect to get into an argument for something as stupid as my posts. That's it, the truth it's out. This is the essence of MAL forums. ^_^ QABJAB said: I always thought that the main love interest was the basic one without personality and is nice, then the next most common one is the childhood friend, an third is the tsundere character. "basic one without personality and is nice" is usually reserved for the male harem lead. You would not see it often in girls these days, unless they're also childhood friends. Main girl in harems is usually either Manic Pixie Dream Girl, or Tsundere. Or both. |
| Idk but i always ship the tsunderes with the male even if shes not my fav char they are just too cute |
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Tarotist said: oh wow, i'd love to eat that crab!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Because it feels so satisfying to break the hard shell of a crab to taste the soft meat inside.... |
| Because people think it's cute how they are deluding themselves with their feelings for the MC and love their conversion from "tsun" to "dere". |
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| Lol I like all but tsundere......... |
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_Yato_God said: ur a yato god and u don't like a tsundere??!? ur a pleb!Lol I like all but tsundere......... |
| thought guys prefer noisy emotional girls since it's easier to start conversations with them |
| It's probably because of how popular they are. |
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| Cause most of the fanbase are guys that like them. If mean gets to be together with the tsundere they can better phantasize about being in the same position as the main = more sales. |
| Because they are all masochist, and I suppose the author thinks it is interesting seeing the MC slowly break through their shell. |
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| The Taming of the Shrew Complex would be a likely reason |
| Dont know but nonetheless tsundere bitches are most boring characters i can think. Only suspassed by a generic male mc |
| - because they're all too cute - because the MC are too masochist and didn't notice the other love interest - because the story plot say so And honestly i hate that |
NoobStomper said: Jaarin said: The Taming of the Shrew Complex would be a likely reason It be great to have an anime that follows that Play closely in terms of the process of getting the girl to show their Dere side. It be refreshing and we get to see feminist in uproar as well. Hehe, not sure about the provocation part, but I suppose we do have the examples of RomeoXJuliet and Zetsuen no Tempest. Shrew was just kinda to show how tsundere's as (main) love interest has been around for centuries rather than to suggest a particular reason as to why they were popular in the first place =P I suppose when it comes to archetypes I tend find its not so much as case that one is inherently "boring" or even "popular" but rather they offer a base framework. The advantage of Tsundere is that you can understand the character type without investing substantial time into developing their "durational" character...basically you know the characters personality without needs to spend that much time with (introduction is usually enough). However the danger is if the anime relies on it meaning theirs no novelty to the character or their placement in the narrative (what you would call "boring"). However, by using the archetype you can either contradict or mold said archetype towards to a novel purpose (purpose in this instance bieng main love interest)...I mean take Senjougahara's arc from Bakemonogari on through the series, or even Michiru in Gisaia no Kajitsu. I don't think the tsundere is particularly overused or is unique from other archetypical frameworks, its just that over time the particular novelties have become familiar. Whether or not familiarity is good or bad depends on the particular purpose...but its a bit generalist to either condemn of praise any on use of a tsundere or similar archetype as a love interest. Or, to put it another way, a tsundere character when first met will probably a unique and novel experience, like meeting Jack the Ripper. But its not necessarily a cut above the rest when you encounter them a second time...unless you discover Jack the Ripper was in fact Ian Holmes all along! Basically they can be a provocatively novel alternative to the normal love story coupling (princeXprincess). |
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