| Im trying to make my friend watch with me but the sinopse isnt really the best so i dont know |
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| The show is glorious, but you have to throw logic out the window and I mean far. Most people like Jojo anyway though so I think it's worth a try, plus lots of dank memes come from the show lol |
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Ruthar said: The first series is definitely worth a watch. Good characters and plotlines and a decent pace. Stardust Crusaders part 1 and 2 are.... extremely overrated. You can watch the first two episodes of Stardust Crusaders and then skip straight to last 4 episodes where the cast encounters the main villain and you won't have missed a thing. Now the fight scenes vary from eh to holy shit good. So if you just want a decent action show, give it a whirl. Sorry, but no. Skipping parts of Stardust Crusaders would make later parts confusing as fuck, considering how they do a lot of world building in Stardust Crusaders. |
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| it's over the top out of nothing. hard to take seriously but oftenly take it self seriously. i am very conflicted about this series. this obviously not for everyone, but entertaining enough for me i guess... |
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| Do it, parts 1 and 2 are great and while part 3 does drag on its still worth the watch. Quick warning though because JoJo past part 3 changes in tone and art style considerably and becomes less of a generic shounen as a result. If you're in it for the muscle you're going to be disappointed. Just don't skip parts or tell anyone you are anime only on any forums and you'll be fine. |
Ruthar said: Dragonage2ftw said: Sorry, but no. Skipping parts of Stardust Crusaders would make later parts confusing as fuck, considering how they do a lot of world building in Stardust Crusaders. Really because I skipped almost all of SC part 2 and had zero problems keeping up with the story. Stardust Crusaders is just a long series of weekly "who is the stand user", "yareyare", "OH MY GAWD", and boredom. Congratulations! You're going to be confused watching Part 4, due to all of the different stand types that they establish in Season 2 of Stardust. |
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Dragonage2ftw said: Ruthar said: Really because I skipped almost all of SC part 2 and had zero problems keeping up with the story. Stardust Crusaders is just a long series of weekly "who is the stand user", "yareyare", "OH MY GAWD", and boredom. Congratulations! You're going to be confused watching Part 4, due to all of the different stand types that they establish in Season 2 of Stardust. Lol. Stop please. First of all stands are not world building. And if you just watched the first few episodes of SC to have a gist of what stands are you will be good for every part after it. Saying you will be even remotely confused by skipping a part is a lie. The connection between each part is very thin and is always explained in the beginning of each part anyway. Each part is self contained for the most part. |
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Dragonage2ftw said: Ruthar said: Really because I skipped almost all of SC part 2 and had zero problems keeping up with the story. Stardust Crusaders is just a long series of weekly "who is the stand user", "yareyare", "OH MY GAWD", and boredom. Congratulations! You're going to be confused watching Part 4, due to all of the different stand types that they establish in Season 2 of Stardust. This is quite debatable as the stand variety goes up a notch in Part 5 where the moves can be seen as pure asspulls at times. There is no significant leap in the stand abilities into DiU nor does it require a complete viewing of part 3 stands. Remember it only introduces the initial concept which is further expanded upon later down the timeline which gets tricky even for me to explain. @tsudecimo True you can skip the parts which mainly comes down to the individual's choosing but going from Japan already to Dio is just retarded in itself. That's just hindering enjoyment and is not only synonymous with this series. |
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| geez why did you guys encourage them to skim part 3. i know it's mostly motw bullshit but it's worth all the way to DIO. plus you'll miss all the jojo moments if you skip straight to dio smh |
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tsudecimo said: Dragonage2ftw said: Congratulations! You're going to be confused watching Part 4, due to all of the different stand types that they establish in Season 2 of Stardust. Lol. Stop please. First of all stands are not world building. And if you just watched the first few episodes of SC to have a gist of what stands are you will be good for every part after it. Saying you will be even remotely confused by skipping a part is a lie. The connection between each part is very thin and is always explained in the beginning of each part anyway. Each part is self contained for the most part. If you skip part 3 and then proceed to part 5, because lol JoJo's parts are so skippable, you are presented with but you're like wtf? Dio's dead at the end of part 1 (granted you've read part 1) and part 5 takes place many years later. Why people are encouraging others to skip parts? If you're interested in a series then read/watch it from the beginning, really, it's not that hard. |
IctiusApr 17, 2016 10:11 AM
Ictius said: tsudecimo said: Lol. Stop please. First of all stands are not world building. And if you just watched the first few episodes of SC to have a gist of what stands are you will be good for every part after it. Saying you will be even remotely confused by skipping a part is a lie. The connection between each part is very thin and is always explained in the beginning of each part anyway. Each part is self contained for the most part. If you skip part 3 and then proceed to part 5, because lol JoJo's parts are so skippable, you are presented with but you're like wtf? Dio's dead at the end of part 1 (granted you've read part 1) and part 5 takes place many years later. Why people are encouraging others to skip parts? If you're interested in a series then read/watch it from the beginning, really, it's not that hard. Are you serious. Do you think knowing the names and origins of some characters justifies reading a whole part that barely has any relevance? Gio's origin is literally explained at the beginning of part 5. Much like Josuke's and Jotaro reason for being in Morioh. Story is not a good reason not to skip a part. It's very hard to be confused by the story in Jojo. There is no clear continuity between parts and every part is self contained. The plot of every part is literally formed at the beginning of it, and it barely connects to other parts if ever. You don't need to watch a whole part just to understand some little callbacks to them that aren't significant. Because they can be skipped without losing much. Each part has it's own flare of style and tone. It's because of people that share you mentality that I kept watching part 1 and part 2, and I disliked them, almost quit on the whole franchise. I particularly remember still not being finished with part 2, and then Stardust crusaders aired and I watched the first episode and I literally enjoyed that one episode than the entirety of part 1 and 2, and I wish I never bothered with them. Then while part 3 was airing during the filler like repetitive fights before they reached Egypt, I started reading part 4 and finished it and I absolutely loved it. I don't get what this notion of ''you have to invest in the whole series'' or ''if you don't like this part you won't like the other parts'' come from. They are inaccurate, and very misguiding. I mean everybody is free to experience it however they want but it's very dishonest to say to someone you will be confused if you skip parts, that's simply not true. |
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tsudecimo said: Ictius said: If you skip part 3 and then proceed to part 5, because lol JoJo's parts are so skippable, you are presented with but you're like wtf? Dio's dead at the end of part 1 (granted you've read part 1) and part 5 takes place many years later. Why people are encouraging others to skip parts? If you're interested in a series then read/watch it from the beginning, really, it's not that hard. Are you serious. Do you think knowing the names and origins of some characters justifies reading a whole part that barely has any relevance? The plot of every part is literally formed at the beginning of it, and it barely connects to other parts if ever. You don't need to watch a whole part just to understand some little callbacks to them that aren't significant. I mean everybody is free to experience it however they want but it's very dishonest to say to someone you will be confused if you skip parts, that's simply not true. Yup, part 6 barely connects with previous parts. You're really funny. And that statement about not being confused is pure bullshit and pretty laughable. Also, yes, knowing an origin of a character that is not from a given part is pretty important. Why even bothering with reading/watching an entire part, that's too much, right? You can simply watch/read last episode/chapter of a part that, somehow, got your attention. |
IctiusApr 17, 2016 4:37 PM
| Clearly jojo is a very story driven franchise with inseparable parts. It's super duper important to read all of part 3 just to know that Watching/reading anime/manga is not supposed to be a chore, so to each his own. |
TyrelApr 23, 2016 7:44 PM
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tsudecimo said: Clearly jojo is a very story driven franchise with inseparable parts. It's super duper important to read all of part 3 just to know that Watching/reading anime/manga is not supposed to be a chore, so to each his own. Of course they can do what they want, but those numbers are there for a reason. Unless you're a person that only follows the hype and doesn't care about understanding what happened in previous parts, why things are like that etc. You can choose whatever you will be watching but it's interesting that you liked some parts while you disliked others, JoJo is JoJo, one part can be better than the other, but they all have that specific atmosphere. |
TyrelApr 23, 2016 7:44 PM
| The best way to watch JJBA is to, gasp, start at the first episode of the first arc, and watch it in order the entire way. It's a good series, there's no need to skip anything. Also, on getting your friend to watch with you, why don't you two just try out the first episode together? It's pretty intense, and sets a good mood of things to come. Part One is only 9 episodes, and generally considered the worst part (But still very good and worth watching! Worst JoJo means still better then 90% of other shows), so you can easily watch that and see what you think. |
TyrelApr 18, 2016 10:34 PM
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tsudecimo said: Clearly jojo is a very story driven franchise with inseparable parts. It's super duper important to read all of part 3 just to know that Watching/reading anime/manga is not supposed to be a chore, so to each his own. Well are you really going to derive someone of the joy of seeing returning characters that were built up by chapters/episodes of development? As an avid JoJo fan, I freak the fuck out every time I see a returning character like Polnareff in part 5 or Dio in Pucci's flashbacks. Sure, its not necessary to enjoy the show but to get the full experience it is recommended. I can imagine someone reviewing JoJo who skipped parts 2 and 3 and is watching Diamond Is Unbreakable. "Who is this Joseph guy and why does everyone like him? He's an extremely underdeveloped character that was thrown to the side. 3/10 for characters." |
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Ictius said: Of course they can do what they want, but those numbers are there for a reason. Unless you're a person that only follows the hype and doesn't care about understanding what happened in previous parts, why things are like that etc. You can choose whatever you will be watching but it's interesting that you liked some parts while you disliked others, JoJo is JoJo, one part can be better than the other, but they all have that specific atmosphere. You clearly did not get my post at all. FrankieKong64 said: tsudecimo said: Clearly jojo is a very story driven franchise with inseparable parts. It's super duper important to read all of part 3 just to know that Watching/reading anime/manga is not supposed to be a chore, so to each his own. Well are you really going to derive someone of the joy of seeing returning characters that were built up by chapters/episodes of development? As an avid JoJo fan, I freak the fuck out every time I see a returning character like Polnareff in part 5 or Dio in Pucci's flashbacks. Sure, its not necessary to enjoy the show but to get the full experience it is recommended. I can imagine someone reviewing JoJo who skipped parts 2 and 3 and is watching Diamond Is Unbreakable. "Who is this Joseph guy and why does everyone like him? He's an extremely underdeveloped character that was thrown to the side. 3/10 for characters." Derive someone of joy? the context for this in the first place is when someone is struggling with a part and is not feeling it. Like this guy who didn't enjoy some parts. All I'm saying is story wise you don't have to watch/read every part completely to understand the later parts. Whether someone doesn't get the full experience is something else. I really like the franchise, doesn't mean I have to like every single thing about it, because I definitely don't. Completing part 2 didn't do anything to enhance my experience, and I recommend skipping the filler fights in Stardust crusaders ( 4 cours was a huge mistake) |
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| What's that? Sounds like something you hear in an out of touch tween pop song. Seriously gross, lame, the worst. Watch something you think you'll enjoy; it eases the experience, you won't feel like you're getting your wisdom teeth pulled, or mopping a bathroom, believe it or not. |
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| JoJo threads are just absolute cancer these days. They're the new Fate threads honestly. You have the people who have an opinion about something, the people who are trying to get into the series but can't because of the next group of people: the incessant fanboys that shit on you for not watching/reading the series their way. As for the OP, yes the series is worth watching but watch it how YOU want to. If you feel like Part 1 isn't for you, then skip it and move on. I've had multiple friends drop the series entirely before finishing part 1 because it really is the weakest of the whole series. If you don't want to watch the Villain of the Week plotline of part 3 and just watching the first 2 episodes + last 4 episodes, then go ahead and do it. That'll let you get caught up and then you can start watching part 4 weekly. There's no "right" way to view JoJo. |
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| For me it isn't worth any praise or being watched at all. Why? Well the main character self-righteousness is pathethic and the battles cringeworthy, maybe it's because it's shounen, for little tiny kids. |
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Fabio-s said: For me it isn't worth any praise or being watched at all. Why? Well the main character self-righteousness is pathethic and the battles cringeworthy, maybe it's because it's shounen, for little tiny kids. Looks like you didn't even get past part 1. You have no idea what you are talking about. |
VirgoFudo said: Fabio-s said: For me it isn't worth any praise or being watched at all. Why? Well the main character self-righteousness is pathethic and the battles cringeworthy, maybe it's because it's shounen, for little tiny kids. Looks like you didn't even get past part 1. You have no idea what you are talking about. His list says he dropped at episode 6 so I wouldn't really count his opinion as valid when it comes to a series like JoJo. |
BrionacAL said: VirgoFudo said: Looks like you didn't even get past part 1. You have no idea what you are talking about. His list says he dropped at episode 6 so I wouldn't really count his opinion as valid when it comes to a series like JoJo. I don't update my list very often. I checked the entire first season, even though I dropped it the first time after 6 episodes. Poor character design and overall story. Meant for little kids who enjoy looking at abs and stupid dialog. |
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Fabio-s said: BrionacAL said: 11His list says he dropped at episode 6 so I wouldn't really count his opinion as valid when it comes to a series like JoJo. I don't update my list very often. I checked the entire first season, even though I dropped it the first time after 6 episodes. Poor character design and overall story. Meant for little kids who enjoy looking at abs and stupid dialog. You misinterpret what I mean when I say your opinion isn't very valid. JoJo as a series has changed considerably since it's inception. Part 1 and Part 2 which the first season covers do not represent JoJo in 2016. I implore you to check the series past the first 3 parts; JoJo hasn't even been classified as shounen since the switch to Ultra Jump in 2004 and it shows. You're judging the entire series as shounen kiddie fair based on parts that in all fairness, are not what people think of when it comes to JoJo. I'm not trying to say that parts 1 and 2 aren't shounen kiddie fair but they shouldn't dissuade someone from giving the series a go. For example if they don't like parts 1 or 2 they might find part 4 onward more to their liking. If you come into a thread with limited knowledge of the subject of discussion then people are going to point that out, especially when you make blatant generalizations. |
CF900 said: Fabio-s said: Poor character design Fabio-s said: Poor character design Way to throw all credibility out of the window, easily some of the best designs in shonen, specially in later parts where all the muscles are gone, yet still far from the generic stuff. Also why in god's name are people encouraging skipping parts? it's one of the worst things you can do in ANY manga/anime, even in Jojo, good for you if you can keep up with stuff after skipping parts, but not everyone can, and there are plenty of people hating on the series because they base their opinions on a single part for not trying to watch the whole thing, you would be surprised at how many people tried to start the series with Stardust Crusaders and ended up completely lost and confused for not even knowing who Dio is or what has he done, let alone know about Joseph's youth and his adventure. Jojo is either watch/read it or drop it, as bad as it sounds, if it drags on for you and feel like it's not worth keeping up with then just drop it, because it certainly is not for you, if you can enjoy the whole thing like most people do, then congratulations, you did what most people do with the mangas and animes they get into, they check the entire thing from the beginning to end. Completely right. The only part I can imagine skipping to and getting away with it is part 7 but even then there are plenty of nods to parts 1-6. If they weren't called parts and called arcs you wouldn't get this kind of attitude when it comes to skipping. I tend to see every part as its own arc anyway as they all fit within the larger story. |
TyrelApr 24, 2016 6:38 AM
| How is skipping parts cancerous? Jojo is not a continuous story. Skipping around doesn't cause any real harm. What did I lose when I finished part 4 before part 3? Literally nothing. And let's not pretend that the story of the series require much attention for someone to ask ''what is this'' and ''how did that happen''. |
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CF900 said: tsudecimo said: How is skipping parts cancerous? Jojo is not a continuous story. Skipping around doesn't cause any real harm. What did I lose when I finished part 4 before part 3? Literally nothing. And let's not pretend that the story of the series require much attention for someone to ask ''what is this'' and ''how did that happen''. How is it not? you're ignoring works of the author, have some respect and check it out, and how are those people not cancerous whey they make pointless posts asking for stupid stuff they should already know about? i'm not saying you're taking part of it, but a lof of people do end in that side, confused about stuff and having the feel to go asking obvious stuff. If you have no problem then good for you, but don't go encouraging others to skip throught it, again, that's disrespectful for all the work the author had to do. If you wanna go saying disrespectful and whatnot. Then watching/reading it illegaly online is worse than ''disrespecting''. Like what posts? It's illogical to keep watching/reading something you don't like just for the sake of experiencing the series in it's numerical order. I would encourage it, since someone not liking part 2 or 3, can like part 4, and so forth. |
TyrelApr 24, 2016 6:39 AM
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tsudecimo said: CF900 said: How is it not? you're ignoring works of the author, have some respect and check it out, and how are those people not cancerous whey they make pointless posts asking for stupid stuff they should already know about? i'm not saying you're taking part of it, but a lof of people do end in that side, confused about stuff and having the feel to go asking obvious stuff. How do i shoot web? If you have no problem then good for you, but don't go encouraging others to skip throught it, again, that's disrespectful for all the work the author had to do. If you wanna go saying disrespectful and whatnot. Then watching/reading it illegaly online is worse than ''disrespecting''. Like what posts? It's illogical to keep watching/reading something you don't like just for the sake of experiencing the series in it's numerical order. I would encourage it, since someone not liking part 2 or 3, can like part 4, and so forth. What I don't understand is why people are so adamant about skipping parts. Part 1 and 2 are the shortest parts and generally considered the weakest but still they can be read in a day if you cared enough. Every part from 1 onward is made better by reading the preceding part. You can do what you want, that's fine but by encouraging people to skip you're potentially making JoJo worse for them as a result. There are definitely instances where events will have little to no impact whereas they would be a big deal if you understood the context. I understand that JoJo is one of those series which has changed quite a lot over time but i'd hate to see people read part 6 before anything else. |
CF900 said: Wow, nice ad list-o-minem there.Fabio-s said: Poor character design *checks anime list* > Attack On Titan Season 2 to watch so you're one of those... How does being excited about AoT 2 have anything to do with this user's opinion, exactly? |
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CF900 said: @Fabio-s has said nothing about what he thinks of AoT's artstyle, so bringing up a comparison he/she never made in the first place is a seems a bit petty.Sapewloth said: Wow, nice ad list-o-minem there. How does being excited about AoT 2 have anything to do with this user's opinion, exactly? Maybe that his opinion is trash-talking about artstyles and when AoT is worse on that aspect, Manga-wise at least, since i recognize the anime is much better done. You compare part 7's artstyle next to AoT and the difference in quality is abysmal, besides that both are monthly released. And just because Araki has great technique that doesn't his designs are going to be appreciated by everyone. |
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BrionacAL said: tsudecimo said: If you wanna go saying disrespectful and whatnot. Then watching/reading it illegaly online is worse than ''disrespecting''. Like what posts? It's illogical to keep watching/reading something you don't like just for the sake of experiencing the series in it's numerical order. I would encourage it, since someone not liking part 2 or 3, can like part 4, and so forth. What I don't understand is why people are so adamant about skipping parts. Part 1 and 2 are the shortest parts and generally considered the weakest but still they can be read in a day if you cared enough. Every part from 1 onward is made better by reading the preceding part. You can do what you want, that's fine but by encouraging people to skip you're potentially making JoJo worse for them as a result. There are definitely instances where events will have little to no impact whereas they would be a big deal if you understood the context. I understand that JoJo is one of those series which has changed quite a lot over time but i'd hate to see people read part 6 before anything else. Because they didn't like the early parts? after all they are really campy. In manga going through them wouldn't be a problem, but for me the 2012 anime was such a chore to go through, and when I started part 3 and 4, I didn't feel like part 2 had any value to my experience. I already said when I'm encouraging people to skip. Only when they are not enjoying it Like this guy who didn't enjoy some parts.. It's not like somebody is new to the whole thing and I just told to him to go straight to part 4, though it could work tbh. There are definitely instances where events will have little to no impact whereas they would be a big deal if you understood the context. Can you mention examples to this? |
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HigashikataJojo said: it doesn't matter that you have the "full context of both sides". You're the one who brought up a "side" to the conversation that never existed to begin with, as Fabio never expressed any kind of opinion on AoT's artstyle in general nor chara designs in particular.Sapewloth said: And just because Araki has great technique that doesn't his designs are going to be appreciated by everyone. Doesn't mean they should be trash talked either, specially without the full context, i've made the comparison because i have the full context of both sides. |
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tsudecimo said: BrionacAL said: What I don't understand is why people are so adamant about skipping parts. Part 1 and 2 are the shortest parts and generally considered the weakest but still they can be read in a day if you cared enough. Every part from 1 onward is made better by reading the preceding part. You can do what you want, that's fine but by encouraging people to skip you're potentially making JoJo worse for them as a result. There are definitely instances where events will have little to no impact whereas they would be a big deal if you understood the context. I understand that JoJo is one of those series which has changed quite a lot over time but i'd hate to see people read part 6 before anything else. Because they didn't like the early parts? after all they are really campy. In manga going through them wouldn't be a problem, but for me the 2012 anime was such a chore to go through, and when I started part 3 and 4, I didn't feel like part 2 had any value to my experience. I already said when I'm encouraging people to skip. Only when they are not enjoying it Like this guy who didn't enjoy some parts.. It's not like somebody is new to the whole thing and I just told to him to go straight to part 4, though it could work tbh. There are definitely instances where events will have little to no impact whereas they would be a big deal if you understood the context. Can you mention examples to this? There are plenty of examples but to keep it brief I'll just mention a few. The majority of these are little things but they really can make things cooler for those that read earlier parts, especially the references in parts 7 and 8. |
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