| In the past, education was a means to subdue the carnal nature of man; to make thought the sovereign ruler of mind's domain and rationality the primary tool of success and fulfillment in life. Yes, I'm talking about the Ancient Greeks and those who followed up till the Enlightenment. Then came the modern era. TV advertisements, fashion industry, music industry and most of entertainment as a whole, works towards destroying education's purpose. And education itself, today, is in deplorable state; it's primary purpose now is to create the best cog for the many familiar systems working out there in the society. In this scenario, anime seems to be the most shameless opponent of sovereignty of thought and rationality. We're all aware of how sexualized female or male characters are in anime. But things don't stop there. Recently, there was a thread complaining why romantic relations never reach their end (i.e marriage, elopement etc) and the only possible explanation to that was this: "The purpose is not to tell a story but to appease the fantasies''. Ever wondered why an anime schoolgirl, with her XX rack, crawls up to a guy's crotch, brings on her most erotic expression, touches the guy in all the wrong places, and then retreats right before the guy gives in? Well, as I said, the answer is: She's meant to appease your, the viewer's, fantasies. Further on, we all are aware of how superheroes in anime are the most gluttonous, sometimes womanizers, and also, at times, the least courteous. What message does this send? you are bound to object: ''Those are for kids!''. Yes, that's exactly my point: Kids learn everything from anything. See the correlation of gluttony and superpowers - what is a kid to derive from that? And wrath. How is that flaunted in anime! the angrier the main character, the stronger he actually will be. I'm not even targeting how unrealistic anime are. My target is simply the effects anime is having on us - especially kids. The recent trend of an otaku suddenly acquiring superpowers or sexy ladies is another proponent of this cumulative degeneracy. An otaku, with his dysfunctional mental faculties, will not derive mere entertainment (which may or may not be the purpose of the anime) from it but rather a consolation of his own sorry state. Hence giving him another reason to carry on with his ugly life. If there were only one and two anime on this topic, we would be justified in pardoning it. But how many are there is in your knowledge. Lastly, I'm not targeting anime as a medium of entertainment but rather the themes it so usually adopts. Disgust. |
| Eh.... There really is nothing wrong with otaku pandering or general pandering, itself. The problem lies with people blurring the lines between fiction and reality. |
CapitalistGod said: Eh.... There really is nothing wrong with otaku pandering or general pandering, itself. The problem lies with people blurring the lines between fiction and reality. The problem is with people not realizing how important a role fiction plays in our reality. Fiction is a part of reality. Whatever we see, becomes a part of us. |
Trance- said: CapitalistGod said: Eh.... There really is nothing wrong with otaku pandering or general pandering, itself. The problem lies with people blurring the lines between fiction and reality. The problem is with people not realizing how important a role fiction plays in our reality. Fiction is a part of reality. Whatever we see, becomes a part of us. There still exists a line between reality and fiction. Those who blur this line is what produces the degeneracy that you talked about. It's not really the fictional body of work's fault. |
KuuhakuDesu said: I didn't get it. What you said is that the themes anime usually adopts are causing bad effects on who's watching, right? But this ins't exclusively a problem of anime. Most of the things you said about it can be found on movies, games, TV series, comics, western cartoons, etc. It does not only happen in anime, y'know. However, that doesnt mean it is right. But if someone is negatively affected by the themes adopted in anime, wouldn't it be affected by any other media too? Is this a problem with anime or with the own person? It's the same as the old discussion "Violent eletronic games make people get volent.". And I think the overall opinion about it is the same. Examples of people affected by anime or people who was not affected aren't really enough to say it affects negatively someone. I myself can say anime affected me positively, but this is not enough to say anime is a good thing. And vice-versa. And man, if there's erotism, extreme violence or any of this topics in an anime, it surely is not recommended for kids. I did say that anime is the most shameless opponent of rationality. In no other medium of entertainment are characters sexualized as much, or as commonly, as in anime. The argument that it's something wrong with the people directly postulates: "Stop being a human if you want to be entertained''. Why can't we have quality entertainment that doesn't fuck with our psyche? There are anime that didn't exploit the 'phantasies', they made it big. Now I'm not saying that all anime should be like that, but can we please lessen the frequency of the detrimental anime? Can we? Yes, we can. But do we? no. And it's observed that an erotic (and stupid) anime now makes more than it would have back in the 80s. The demand of such anime increases with the increase in the 'otaku' trope. Correlation is obvious. Causation is what we're discussing here. |
| A puke in your general direction, good sir. It is well known that the educational, economic, religious, moral, and social system of yesteryear and today is one and the same in purpose: it is but a tool with which the ruling class sedates and blinds our humanity such that it is hapless and incapable of revolt. Happily, mankind is placated by the sham of normalcy, the rightness in laws and rules. Anaesthetised to reality, we happily allow the vampires of the ruling class to feasts upon our very blood. This is how it has been since the invention of civilisation. As you say, OP, modern entertainment is one of the foremost brainwashing tools within their arsenal. With cheap pretence of reality, they distract from the true suffering. With the integration of the instant-feed news cycle, it lulls us into conceited confidence. With cheap thrills and eroticism, we are ensnared with dreams of fulfilment. With melodrama and drivel depth, we are dropped the party line via IV drip. The children of tomorrow are doomed to be the witless lambs of today. Their hopes are government approved, their ideals are properly stamped. They will be more lost than we, as not long from now reality will be replaced by a virtual life, and from head to toe they will be the pawns of the evil powers. Anime is the vessel of darkness. Conceived as light, we are deceived already. |
CapitalistGod said: Trance- said: The problem is with people not realizing how important a role fiction plays in our reality. Fiction is a part of reality. Whatever we see, becomes a part of us. There still exists a line between reality and fiction. Those who blur this line is what produces the degeneracy that you talked about. It's not really the fictional body of work's fault. When your whole reality revolves around fiction (i.e you are an otaku) then that line blurs away. Boredom is commonplace nowadays and people increasingly seek 'escapism' not entertainment. Anime is one source of escapism - and perhaps the best. Games require one to be at least active mentally. Anime? not much. When a person bored with life seeks escapism in anime, and is exposed to the mindless degeneracy of this medium, it will have an affect on him. We can't erase the medium. We can't erase the desire for escapism. But we can surely lessen the degeneracy in this medium. |
Ckan said: A puke in your general direction, good sir. It is well known that the educational, economic, religious, moral, and social system of yesteryear and today is one and the same in purpose: it is but a tool with which the ruling class sedates and blinds our humanity such that it is hapless and incapable of revolt. Happily, mankind is placated by the sham of normalcy, the rightness in laws and rules. Anaesthetised to reality, we happily allow the vampires of the ruling class to feasts upon our very blood. This is how it has been since the invention of civilisation. As you say, OP, modern entertainment is one of the foremost brainwashing tools within their arsenal. With cheap pretence of reality, they distract from the true suffering. With the integration of the instant-feed news cycle, it lulls us into conceited confidence. With cheap thrills and eroticism, we are ensnared with dreams of fulfilment. With melodrama and drivel depth, we are dropped the party line via IV drip. The children of tomorrow are doomed to be the witless lambs of today. Their hopes are government approved, their ideals are properly stamped. They will be more lost than we, as not long from now reality will be replaced by a virtual life, and from head to toe they will be the pawns of the evil powers. Anime is the vessel of darkness. Conceived as light, we are deceived already. You are officially my senpai henceforth. Excellent post! |
Trance- said: CapitalistGod said: There still exists a line between reality and fiction. Those who blur this line is what produces the degeneracy that you talked about. It's not really the fictional body of work's fault. When your whole reality revolves around fiction (i.e you are an otaku) then that line blurs away. Boredom is commonplace nowadays and people increasingly seek 'escapism' not entertainment. Anime is one source of escapism - and perhaps the best. Games require one to be at least active mentally. Anime? not much. When a person bored with life seeks escapism in anime, and is exposed to the mindless degeneracy of this medium, it will have an affect on him. We can't erase the medium. We can't erase the desire for escapism. But we can surely lessen the degeneracy in this medium. How do we lessen it? The only plausible thing I can think of is to compel anime creators to create things that can "lessen degeneracy" in their audiences or compel people not to be "degenerates". Which is out of the question, of course. |
CapitalistGod said: How do we lessen it? The only plausible thing I can think of is to compel anime creators to create things that can "lessen degeneracy" in their audiences or compel people not to be "degenerates". Which is out of the question, of course. How does one eliminate corruption in society? It's simple: by raising awareness. The tool of 'knowing' works in abstract and obscure ways but is the most effective at dealing with heinous corruption. Just the mere realization of what anime is trying to achieve can guide you to happiness in your life - assuming your life revolves much around this medium. It surely sounds idealistic. But how does an ocean come to be? |
| In case that if you dont know, every anime have "rating" system for guideline. |
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Trance- said: CapitalistGod said: How do we lessen it? The only plausible thing I can think of is to compel anime creators to create things that can "lessen degeneracy" in their audiences or compel people not to be "degenerates". Which is out of the question, of course. How does one eliminate corruption in society? It's simple: by raising awareness. The tool of 'knowing' works in abstract and obscure ways but is the most effective at dealing with heinous corruption. Just the mere realization of what anime is trying to achieve can guide you to happiness in your life - assuming your life revolves much around this medium. It surely sounds idealistic. But how does an ocean come to be? Sure, that sounds fine and dandy but after raising awareness. Then what? Surely, as there are free people around... these kind of things(fiction) will exist. Unless you eliminate that freedom. You're really sounding like Anita Sarkeesian and Fred Thompson, tbh. |
| Let them live out their fantasies. You don't know the circumstances of their life that lead them to living vicariously through a teenage Japanese boy with superpowers. |
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KuuhakuDesu said: This is an "Why is anime industry dying since *insert year here*" thread, disguised as a one with a real concern. People who get their psyche fucked by fiction are the real problem, not the anime per se. If you're aware of you condition as a counscious human being, and you know to differ reality and fiction, then you won't be negatively affected by it. Or are you saying everyone who watches anime regularly is being mentally attacked? And that everyone eventually will become a hardcore otaku or weeaboo because "how shitty the anime industry is nowadays"? And, what's the deal with sexualization? Are you against porn too? Oh, come on. Anime industry overuses sexuality because it fucking sells. So, the main problem is not "oh, let's make lotta fanservice because it's nice!!", but more like "people like fanservice, so if we do it, we sell more". The problem isnt in the anime, but in the ones that consume it. Anime didn't teach anime fans to like fanservice. It was the opposite. Anime fans teached the industry that they like fanservice. See the source of the problem here? I really understand the concern how shitty many anime are , but I don't think you're focusing on what's important. This is not that thread. Anime is not dying. It's quality is just being diluted. If the ratio of good to bad anime in the past was 1:3, then it is 1:6 or maybe 7 now. No one objects when games are censored or regulated and certain topics are prohibited from being the focal point of a game. That's because in games the audience is obvious. In anime, this is not the case. I'm not blaming anime solely here. The reasons for the overall degeneracy are much bigger. Observe the general pattern now: - Youngsters are increasingly getting bored these days. - They seek escapism. - Anime provide instant exodus. - Anime is littered with degeneracy. - The youngster then adopts what he sees regardless of his age or his conscious state. An average anime viewer is nowadays someone extremely bored with life. It doesn't matter if he can distinguish between reality and fiction because he surely cannot. If he could, then he would seek better sources of entertainment. But he isn't seeking entertainment, he's seeking exodus from reality. The lines have already been blurred. You cannot eliminate the roots of the problem which are the causes of this 'boredom'. They're much bigger and have now become a part of the modern life. But you can regulate what a man seeks after that boredom, right? Alcohol is duly targeted. So are sex clubs and the like. Anything of that sort is objected. Except anime; because insofar it isn't deemed to be of 'that' sort - but it surely is. >Anime didn't teach anime fans to like fanservice. It was the opposite. Anime fans teached the industry that they like fanservice. That's exactly my point! Fans like it, the producers will only pander to it. But is there an obligation on them? If, for example, a producer keeps on producing quality anime which don't pander to the fans, I don't think his popularity will drop. Because people ultimately enjoy only 'entertainment'; appeasing the carnal instincts can only provide momentary satisfaction and hence leave a man craving for more. A good, quality, anime that doesn't pander to the viewer's fantasies can provide much satisfactory entertainment and hence escapism than an anime which delights in pleasuring the viewer's nature. CapitalistGod said: Sure, that sounds fine and dandy but after raising awareness. Then what? Surely, as there are free people around... these kind of things(fiction) will exist. Unless you eliminate that freedom. You're really sounding like Anita Sarkeesian and Fred Thompson, tbh. After knowing comes knowledge. And after knowledge comes epistemology...are you seriously getting into philosophy? Come on. It's obvious. devinder said: Let them live out their fantasies. You don't know the circumstances of their life that lead them to living vicariously through a teenage Japanese boy with superpowers. Almost brought a tear to my eye and then a fart to my anus. |
_Esper_ said: In case that if you dont know, every anime have "rating" system for guideline. The tropes I targeted after the 'sexualization' are all found in shonen anime that are intended for pre-pubescent kids. Go get yourself banned, please. |
Trance- said: PG 13 is parental guidance anime just for your info. I repeat, PARENTAL GUIDANCE_Esper_ said: In case that if you dont know, every anime have "rating" system for guideline. The tropes I targeted after the 'sexualization' are all found in shonen anime that are intended for pre-pubescent kids. Go get yourself banned, please. Trance- said: "Youngster" is under "parental supervision". You should not blame anime int this part. Besides, this thing not only happen in anime industry.I'm not blaming anime solely here. The reasons for the overall degeneracy are much bigger. Observe the general pattern now: - Youngsters are increasingly getting bored these days. - They seek escapism. - Anime provide instant exodus. - Anime is littered with degeneracy. - The youngster then adopts what he sees regardless of his age or his conscious state. |
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Trance- said: After knowing comes knowledge. And after knowledge comes epistemology...are you seriously getting into philosophy? Come on. It's obvious. That's not what I'm really asking though. I'm thinking about the results of that kind of thinking. As I said, it will eventually lead to people dictating what anime are allowed to exist on the basis of how it promotes degeneracy. As long as people are free, that kind of thinking would lead to this. Since free people are generally free to create whatever they want and watch what they want, in the long run. (I can rehash my arguments against Violence and Sexism in Video Games here and have no problem) |
| Yeah, but where's yo' evidence this is as common as you say it is? |
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Trance- said: Then came the modern era. TV advertisements, fashion industry, music industry and most of entertainment as a whole, works towards destroying education's purpose. http://myanimelist.net/manga/12808/Harenchi_Gakuen > it's fucking old > it's freaking WSJ > it's totaly what you describe seriously, entertainment medium is entertaining because peole see waht they don't know or what they totaly know. that's how is it no matter old or new. deal with it. seriously, go nagai probably laugh at his home looking at anime this days. they are soo fucking pussy. |
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| Ummmmm......Am I the only one who sees that THIS IS JUST ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE ANTI-ECHCHI THREADS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Trance- said: Ckan said: A puke in your general direction, good sir. It is well known that the educational, economic, religious, moral, and social system of yesteryear and today is one and the same in purpose: it is but a tool with which the ruling class sedates and blinds our humanity such that it is hapless and incapable of revolt. Happily, mankind is placated by the sham of normalcy, the rightness in laws and rules. Anaesthetised to reality, we happily allow the vampires of the ruling class to feasts upon our very blood. This is how it has been since the invention of civilisation. As you say, OP, modern entertainment is one of the foremost brainwashing tools within their arsenal. With cheap pretence of reality, they distract from the true suffering. With the integration of the instant-feed news cycle, it lulls us into conceited confidence. With cheap thrills and eroticism, we are ensnared with dreams of fulfilment. With melodrama and drivel depth, we are dropped the party line via IV drip. The children of tomorrow are doomed to be the witless lambs of today. Their hopes are government approved, their ideals are properly stamped. They will be more lost than we, as not long from now reality will be replaced by a virtual life, and from head to toe they will be the pawns of the evil powers. Anime is the vessel of darkness. Conceived as light, we are deceived already. You are officially my senpai henceforth. Excellent post! For your own mental well being, I'm obliged to point out (and I hope that you realize) he's being sarcastic. |
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TheBrainintheJar said: Yeah, but where's yo' evidence this is as common as you say it is? No positivism please. Some things are based on observation alone. You cannot make statistics of 'how anime has influenced people negatively'. The strength of my observation lies in the fact that no one other than you has disagreed with me on this that anime are having a bad influence. MetroSubway said: Trance- said: No one objects when games are censored or regulated That's amusing. Even trivial instances of "censorship" in games will receive all sorts of hilariously vitriolic squirming from fans, more objection than you could fill your pockets with. An excellent example would be the controversy surrounding Bravely Default and the edited costumes in its localized versions. But are those censorships reversed? No. CapitalistGod said: Trance- said: After knowing comes knowledge. And after knowledge comes epistemology...are you seriously getting into philosophy? Come on. It's obvious. That's not what I'm really asking though. I'm thinking about the results of that kind of thinking. As I said, it will eventually lead to people dictating what anime are allowed to exist on the basis of how it promotes degeneracy. As long as people are free, that kind of thinking would lead to this. Since free people are generally free to create whatever they want and watch what they want, in the long run. (I can rehash my arguments against Violence and Sexism in Video Games here and have no problem) The education of the ancient Greeks didn't eliminate lechery or drinking from their society. It went on just fine. It just didn't become commonplace. Positive realizations never actually go far enough to make an absolute impact. They lessen the evil but don't proliferate the good. -Esper- said: PG 13 is parental guidance anime just for your info. I repeat, PARENTAL GUIDANCE PG, at best, has a placebo effect. A parent cannot, and should not, supervise his kid 24/7. And just because of this placebo effect, it's worth having being. That's all about it. |
Mint said: For your own mental well being, I'm obliged to point out (and I hope that you realize) he's being sarcastic. For your own mental well being, I'm obliged to point out that you've been brainwashed. |
| dude , chill it's just drawings brehhh. I can write a whole book about this topic but posting a thread on MYANIMELIST of all places is not going to help your campaign. |
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Trance- said: My last words to you. Be a "smart" and "responsible" parent. Not the one that scolding the teachers when their children got bad grade because the kids were lazy.-Esper- said: PG 13 is parental guidance anime just for your info. I repeat, PARENTAL GUIDANCE PG, at best, has a placebo effect. A parent cannot, and should not, supervise his kid 24/7. And just because of this placebo effect, it's worth having being. That's all about it. |
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Trance- said: In the past, education was a means to subdue the carnal nature of man; to make thought the sovereign ruler of mind's domain and rationality the primary tool of success and fulfillment in life. Yes, I'm talking about the Ancient Greeks and those who followed up till the Enlightenment. Then came the modern era. TV advertisements, fashion industry, music industry and most of entertainment as a whole, works towards destroying education's purpose. And education itself, today, is in deplorable state; it's primary purpose now is to create the best cog for the many familiar systems working out there in the society. In this scenario, anime seems to be the most shameless opponent of sovereignty of thought and rationality. We're all aware of how sexualized female or male characters are in anime. But things don't stop there. Recently, there was a thread complaining why romantic relations never reach their end (i.e marriage, elopement etc) and the only possible explanation to that was this: "The purpose is not to tell a story but to appease the fantasies''. Ever wondered why an anime schoolgirl, with her XX rack, crawls up to a guy's crotch, brings on her most erotic expression, touches the guy in all the wrong places, and then retreats right before the guy gives in? Well, as I said, the answer is: She's meant to appease your, the viewer's, fantasies. Further on, we all are aware of how superheroes in anime are the most gluttonous, sometimes womanizers, and also, at times, the least courteous. What message does this send? you are bound to object: ''Those are for kids!''. Yes, that's exactly my point: Kids learn everything from anything. See the correlation of gluttony and superpowers - what is a kid to derive from that? And wrath. How is that flaunted in anime! the angrier the main character, the stronger he actually will be. I'm not even targeting how unrealistic anime are. My target is simply the effects anime is having on us - especially kids. The recent trend of an otaku suddenly acquiring superpowers or sexy ladies is another proponent of this cumulative degeneracy. An otaku, with his dysfunctional mental faculties, will not derive mere entertainment (which may or may not be the purpose of the anime) from it but rather a consolation of his own sorry state. Hence giving him another reason to carry on with his ugly life. If there were only one and two anime on this topic, we would be justified in pardoning it. But how many are there is in your knowledge. Lastly, I'm not targeting anime as a medium of entertainment but rather the themes it so usually adopts. Disgust. The answer is simple! Young adults have self-awareness, hence they're the people who control their decisions. If one decides to become and be an otaku then Its his own mature choice and he alone will face the consequences. Kids will , probably, be affected by those unreal themes you pointed-out however I believe that time will do its job, eventually reality will hit them in the face and they will know more than anyone how deceiving those themes really are. |
Trance- said: Mint said: For your own mental well being, I'm obliged to point out (and I hope that you realize) he's being sarcastic. For your own mental well being, I'm obliged to point out that you've been brainwashed. Here's some useful life advice for you (and like 99% of MAL really): “Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.” - Ralph Waldo Emerson |
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Trance- said: That's total bullshit, people have done studies on how young people are influenced by media. Most of these studies actually support your point of view, instead of being lazy and dismissing peoples point out of hand perhaps you should do some research.TheBrainintheJar said: Yeah, but where's yo' evidence this is as common as you say it is? No positivism please. Some things are based on observation alone. You cannot make statistics of 'how anime has influenced people negatively'. The strength of my observation lies in the fact that no one other than you has disagreed with me on this that anime are having a bad influence. Anyway, it's a parents job to manage what media children access, to educate them about what's inappropriate to watch and to expose them to stuff that they believe sends out the right message. If someone's too lazy to check what their kid is watching on TV or the Internet every so often then they're asking for their kids to find stuff they don't want them to. |
| I'm sure I'd be a neurosurgeon if it weren't for anime corrupting and crippling my capabilities. At least I think that's how things work in the real world and not in the delusions of some teenager. |
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asaspades said: Trance- said: That's total bullshit, people have done studies on how young people are influenced by media. Most of these studies actually support your point of view, instead of being lazy and dismissing peoples point out of hand perhaps you should do some research.No positivism please. Some things are based on observation alone. You cannot make statistics of 'how anime has influenced people negatively'. The strength of my observation lies in the fact that no one other than you has disagreed with me on this that anime are having a bad influence. Anyway, it's a parents job to manage what media children access, to educate them about what's inappropriate to watch and to expose them to stuff that they believe sends out the right message. If someone's too lazy to check what their kid is watching on TV or the Internet every so often then they're asking for their kids to find stuff they don't want them to. Ok, I admit my mistake here. Yes, you can. But has anyone done that study? No. Because anime is taboo. And shit argument bruh. Parents aren't supposed to be your watchdogs. That will only lead to developing a habit of being spoon-fed in children. Children above the age of 15 are already not 'children'. Mint said: Here's some useful life advice for you (and like 99% of MAL really): “Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.” - Ralph Waldo Emerson I'm well aware of the Persecutory Delusion and also of the fact that it doesn't apply here. Here's some useful advice to you (and like 99% of MAL really): "If you would be a real seeker after truth, then you would question, at least once in your life, as far as possible, all things.'' (Rene Descartes) |
| wake up, anime is a lesser problem when it comes to that disney dit it too, so fuck off |
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Trance- said: Most 15 year olds are responsible enough to make their own decisions. If they want to be an otaku then let 'em, if they're too lazy to work in school then so be it. Its not as if banning them from watching anime is gonna change that. I don't like most of the stuff you described but unless you're going to completely restrict what people are allowed to produce across games, TV, cartoons, films etc. then there's no way you can completely stop people from being exposed to it.asaspades said: That's total bullshit, people have done studies on how young people are influenced by media. Most of these studies actually support your point of view, instead of being lazy and dismissing peoples point out of hand perhaps you should do some research. Anyway, it's a parents job to manage what media children access, to educate them about what's inappropriate to watch and to expose them to stuff that they believe sends out the right message. If someone's too lazy to check what their kid is watching on TV or the Internet every so often then they're asking for their kids to find stuff they don't want them to. Ok, I admit my mistake here. Yes, you can. But has anyone done that study? No. Because anime is taboo. And shit argument bruh. Parents aren't supposed to be your watchdogs. That will only lead to developing a habit of being spoon-fed in children. Children above the age of 15 are already not 'children'. |
asaspades said: Most 15 year olds are responsible enough to make their own decisions. If they want to be an otaku then let 'em, if they're too lazy to work in school then so be it. Its not as if banning them from watching anime is gonna change that. I don't like most of the stuff you described but unless you're going to completely restrict what people are allowed to produce across games, TV, cartoons, films etc. then there's no way you can completely stop people from being exposed to it. The point is not to restrict it. It's only to 'reduce' it. And it only takes the abstract realization of something going wrong. That is all. |
Trance- said: i question the validity of the thread's premiseHere's some useful advice to you (and like 99% of MAL really): "If you would be a real seeker after truth, then you would question, at least once in your life, as far as possible, all things.'' (Rene Descartes) dae every trope i dont like is degeneracy? |
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Chiibi said: yep, most of anime that available for outsiders in current season is late night shows which is obviously not for children time. why critcising late night shows because not being friendly with children?For real. I don't CARE about the children. The children shouldn't be watching most anime anyway. |
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| I don't think I'll contribute much, since I have the same somewhat opinion on these issues, but, I don't think this issue is that simple, tho, the things we consume do have some impact especially on those with more frail personalities and disorders who seek a form of escapism, and, due to our social construct for the views we have for such people we cause even more harm probably. People like those who are in need of more help, are being bullied and laughed at, which deepens the problem and forcing those people to become even more anti-social or act in a way that that the majority of us would see as abnormal or weird. Surroundings and parents play a big role in this, perhaps these two are the most essential to how a person will develop and what kind of knowledge the kid will acquire. The parents are the most responsible for the child, as the child will acquire certain traits from his/her parents and how much attention they're going to pay to their child and the knowledge that they're going to give to their child; social status and educational level of the parents also plays a big role. Then, there are the surroundings, the friends(if any), the school, the neighborhood which are going to have an impact on the development of the child. I think these are the most quintessential elements that'll affect the said person to how they'll consume those form of entertainment and whether they'll subdue to that escapism, perhaps, in the most extreme case become a shut-in. And I think that you're right, awareness should be raised, just like awareness for safe sex and HIV and safe driving; since these forms of entertainment can be extremely harmful for a frail person and a surrounding that constantly mocks these people. |
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romagia said: Trance- said: i question the validity of the thread's premiseHere's some useful advice to you (and like 99% of MAL really): "If you would be a real seeker after truth, then you would question, at least once in your life, as far as possible, all things.'' (Rene Descartes) dae every trope i dont like is degeneracy? You've peered into the darkest pits of my mind, sir. As a reward, you get to see my weird sexual fantasies about steering wheels. |
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