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AzureRevolver said: It's still very weird to me for them to introduce Airi as like "The First Heroine" instantly setting her as the main heroine in my mind added to that they put quite a bit of development into her for a good chuck of the first half only for her to get casted aside for Sana and Miu. If anything Airi chose this as she didn't want her focus to sway at the thought of Shingo all the time (At least I think she did) which later led to Sana and Miu, I really do think that Sana deserves it more because we see that obvious interest she has. While I am happy for Miu it just seems like she didn't have to work so much for it. I hope these last two episodes give for a better ending (or alternate endings or something) It seems as if you were the only one to mention this. And this is exactly how I felt. Way too much development with Airi to just be cast aside as she has been. Just had to share :) |
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tendayslate said: It just feels like such a waste. Perhaps that's just me. I mean I like Miu too, probably the second best. I just don't like when things are built up and just thrown away. Miu is built up way back after Airi's problem were resolved back in episode 4-5 IIRC. Then it shifted to Miu and her Nukobu club after that. This isn't something "that came out of nowhere". Are you guys serious? or not just paying attention? See Hoshizora to have an ending pair "that came out of nowhere". |
| Imo, I think you guys need to look more into the development between Airi and Shingo. Sure, there were developments coming from Airi, and she's obvious interested in Shingo. But vice versa? I didn't really feel that way from Shingo, he just treats her as he would do to anybody he meets, there was some awkward moments, but that was simply because Airi is a girl and Shin is a boy, no more than that. As for Sana, all the tsundere acts really shot her in the knee. We watcher can tell that she's interested in Shingo. But how would Shingo feel when he gets kicked in the stomach every five sentences he speaks? With a choice of a gentle option like Miu (and he's fancied her since ep 1 if you watch carefully enough), you shouldn't be surprised when he goes for Miu instead of Sana. He's not obligated to understand Sana's tantrum when his relationship with her is considerably good. That main point is, Airi saw through Shingo that he's just another nice girl, that he would be nice to everybody. Unlike Sana expected Shingo to her exclusive shinning amour knight. Shingo's kindness despite Sana's obvious tantrum really grow the false hope in her, and she refused anyway other wise, hence the result we all saw, Shingo fell in love with Miu. In the end, Sana was tring to hard to cling to existed status quo, just be heart-broken at that "swing scene". That was really emotionally, and I am greatly sorry for her, hopefully Manglobe can resolve this in a way that make Sana be able to stand up and smile again. Excellent episode indeed! |
| yay :3 , my favourite harem so far first i didnt like sana at all but i feel so sorry for her now ;_; , however , i was all in for miu so iam more than happy |
| Well that's what Sana gets for not being honest with herself, and with Shingo. If you don't then that's pretty much the outcome you're gonna get... heartache |
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Mr_DaftPunk said: Still, it's kinda sad...Well that's what Sana gets for not being honest with herself, and with Shingo. If you don't then that's pretty much the outcome you're gonna get... heartache |
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| i really dont get why everyone wanted sana to win .i mean she treated him like a disease.dog this and dog that it was so bad that i could not stand her.she gave the word tsundere a bad name.i thought airi should of won.she was the first girl he saw and got involve with.but she played it cool and decided to watch form afar.well sempai was my second choice so i dont mind too much she treated him with kindness from the beginning oh i still wanted airi to win, just another shuffle ending. spoiler asa came out of nowhere and took the guy.so my suggestion if it has and english version play the game and pick your girl thats the only why you will feel better.i did that for shuffle and picked sia .the story was a whole lot more better than asa's i dont want to use my powers crap |
hack5Dec 9, 2011 8:25 AM
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hack5 said: I think you're missing the point here... We didn't want Sana to win. Obviously, she never had a chance to begin with. But we -or me of all people- couldn't see her broken like that! >_>i really dont get why everyone wanted sana to win .i mean she treated him like a disease.dog this and dog that it was so bad that i could not stand her.she gave the word |
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hack5 said: i really dont get why everyone wanted sana to win .i mean she treated him like a disease.dog this and dog that it was so bad that i could not stand her.she gave the word tsundere a bad name.i thought airi should of won.she was the first girl he saw and got involve with.but she played it cool and decided to watch form afar.well sempai was my second choice so i dont mind too much she treated him with kindness from the beginning oh i still wanted airi to win, just another shuffle ending.asa came out of nowhere and took the guy.so my suggestion if it has and english version play the game and pick your girl thats the only why you will feel better.i did that for shuffle and picked sia .the story was a whole lot more better than asa's i dont want to use my powers crap thats easy to answer. She's a tsundere which is quite popular |
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| i'll do so if theres an english version of the VN, but i guess this could take a while, or am i misinformed and there allready is one? , and maybe u should spoiler ur shuffle-spoiler just in case :3 |
CrydasiaDec 9, 2011 5:19 AM
| Miu ftw. ♥_♥ poor Airi though.. Sana, it's been fun but.. was never a fan of tsundere endings.. very cliche. Who would want a girl always up your ass about everything! -_- But as everyone stated above, it was nice not to see the main heroine chosen for once! |
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| Why, of all girls, Miu!? (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻ I wanted it to be him with Airi, from the very start. Even him with Sana is acceptable, but Miu... of all people! It even made Sana cry T_T That's a really painful scene to watch Why did the directors pick the Miu Route instead of something else? (╯°□°）╯︵ /(.□ . \) |
| Feels like 12 episodes isnt enough to solve this... |
| This episode was good but I really disappointed that they pair Shingo with Miu cause she is your typical dere-dere moe girl(I don't have anything against them, if they're most fitting for the story e.i. Nagisa from Clannad I even like them. But this time it was the worst choice IMO). Still hope for some twist and Sana ending. |
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Dark-Slayer said: Mr_DaftPunk said: Still, it's kinda sad...Well that's what Sana gets for not being honest with herself, and with Shingo. If you don't then that's pretty much the outcome you're gonna get... heartache Don't get me wrong it is sad for Sana the way things are currently atm. I just believe that if she was honest with her feelings, and dropped the tsundere act, well I think she would have given Miu-sempai a run for her money |
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thesnnitro said: Why did the directors pick the Miu Route instead of something else? anyone else who has read the VN will agree with me that Miu's route is perhaps the most emotionally evoking of the scenarios, with Sakuno up next. although Sakuno's scenario is pretty good and interesting, ultimately it's rather controversial (in my opinion, anyway). Airi's route is too linear and ecchi as fuck, while Ange's route is too short. i already explained this in my first post but they chose Miu's route to induce empathetic emotion. look at all the debates and sympathies prior to this episode that related to Sana; these would have not been here otherwise if they didn't pick Miu's route. picking out someone else's scenario from the VN would have made for a very boring anime adaption. |
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| Big Disappointment with the pairings......... |
| Listen people, just because she might not be your favorite girl, don't delude yourselves. Miu was always in Shingo's eyes since episode 1. When they first met, she was the only girl to make him blush. Through-out the entire show, they showed how Shingo was attracted to her. It was NEVER this for Airi or Sana, he was only being nice, that's how he is. Saying the show is worst just cause your girl didn't win is very petty, and if you didn't realize Miu was the winner 2 episodes ago, your love for your girl blinded you. And if you still think Sana can win, you are clearly in denial now. Finally we have a Male lead that can think for himself, and chooses what HE wants. He never liked Airi like that, and Sana shot herself in the foot from day one with the "man-hater" attitude. It makes perfect sense why Shingo doesn't like her. |
| man i dont like Miu xD i wonder what the last 2 eps will be about? isnt the "i like you"-part supposed to be the end?.. |
| Well, that was surprising. Everything seemed to point to Airi, and then suddenly this. Can't say I dislike it, despite not being my favored choice, but certainly didn't see this coming... |
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luinthoron said: And its about time shows start doing this. The "First Girl Wins" and "Tsundere Wins" tropes are really getting played out. If you can know who will win before a choice is even made, it gets boring after so long.Well, that was surprising. Everything seemed to point to Airi, and then suddenly this. Can't say I dislike it, despite not being my favored choice, but certainly didn't see this coming... |
Tenchi_Ryu said: This.And its about time shows start doing this. The "First Girl Wins" and "Tsundere Wins" tropes are really getting played out. If you can know who will win before a choice is even made, it gets boring after so long. Fixed winning girl or harem end are getting their way these days it's boring. I do hope there'll be more studios that have guts to pull some surprises like this. It was interesting. BTW, I am Sakuno shipper and not really Miu's fan. But in the end, I still like this. It just makes sense to me that Shingo 'loves' Miu. I won't say he 'chooses' Miu here, because as far as I can see, he didn't have his eyes for another girl. Well I said that, but at least I raged about how Sakuno's role was so tiny. |
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| I am not pleased I liked Airi much better |
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| Sena is a bro. |
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| OMG! I didnt see that coming! NOW FOR THE ENDING EPISODE! WE WILL HAVE A SCHOOL DAYS ENDING! Wtf! I thought this was just a simple harem Anime. I didn't except Shingo to confess. Omg Im burning up. IM TOO EXCITED FOR THE SCHOOL DAYS ENDING OF THIS ANIME! Dont disappoint me pls! P.S I like Miu better so yeah.. Rock on! |
| Damm .. why Miu ? wanted to see the Airi x Shingo path .. well you never know what's going to happen in the next 2 eps :'O |
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| I am honestly one of the Miu fans, and so I was definitely happy about the outcome. I'm not huge on when the main heroines are the love interest in the anime versions (the one exception: Akane Iro. They just did too many weird things in that series and it should've been Yuuhi). I actually really disliked Airi at the start, but she grew on me, and now I actually feel that maybe it would've been intersting to seee her route too. I think that she is probably the most beautiful and since she's stopped being so much of a tsundere, I think she's my second fav. I feel pretty bad for Sana, but really I don't the studio to do the switcharoo. The last couple of episodes have focused completely on Shingo and Miu and, if we think about real life type of circumstances, him switching to her would not be plausible. It'd be interesting to see, but it's already been established that Miu and Shingo have feelings for each other. |
| Miu/10 Sad ending/10 Holy fuck this shitts still average/10 But my ratings are different than most, 10 being GG, 7 being meh, 5 being utter fail crap. |
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KaitoDash said: Tenchi_Ryu said: This.And its about time shows start doing this. The "First Girl Wins" and "Tsundere Wins" tropes are really getting played out. If you can know who will win before a choice is even made, it gets boring after so long. Fixed winning girl or harem end are getting their way these days it's boring. I do hope there'll be more studios that have guts to pull some surprises like this. It was interesting. BTW, I am Sakuno shipper and not really Miu's fan. But in the end, I still like this. It just makes sense to me that Shingo 'loves' Miu. I won't say he 'chooses' Miu here, because as far as I can see, he didn't have his eyes for another girl. Well I said that, but at least I raged about how Sakuno's role was so tiny. I agree with both of you. It's refreshing to watch. Damn, now i really2 want to play the game. |
| OMG SANA!@!!!@!#!@#~!~~~@ TwT Tsundere for ever <3!!! I feel so heart broken. I never liked Miu!!! I mean she was cute but, NO!!! I had a very good hunch that Sana was listeninng through the door, but actually she walked in (just like in previous episodes were she would listen through the door) Airi needs love too dammit! Airi x Shingo x Sana !!!! |
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| What i really still can't get over is that they have seem to have forgotten and are completely ignoring everything and anything that ever happened between Airi and Shingo, i mean really when was the last time he even spoke to her? They spent nearly half the anime building up their relationship and it looked like a firm Airi end but then all of that everything is gone not even friendship is there. Im not annoyed because he didnt pick Airi, i would of liked him to pick Airi or Sana but really the writters are pretty much saying forget everything with Airi it did not happen. Airi does not even seem broken up about Shingo either, Shingo has not even spoken to Airi in god knows how many eps. I honestly feel they did a horrible job of switching the focus from Airi to Miu and making Miu the love interest. Sure change the focus maybe but to throw away everything that was done and just completely deny it is bringing my rating down. But really it should of been Airi or Sana, Miu was always my least favourite out of the 3 girls but thats not the main issue its what i said before that is. |
DragoonDeusDec 9, 2011 4:37 PM
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| I see a nice boat sailing by. Slicer22 said: What i really still can't get over is that they have seem to have forgotten and are completely ignoring everything and anything that ever happened between Airi and Shingo, i mean really when was the last time he even spoke to her? They spent nearly half the anime building up their relationship and it looked like a firm Airi end but then all of that everything is gone not even friendship is there. Im not annoyed because he didnt pick Airi, i would of liked him to pick Airi or Sana but really the writters are pretty much saying forget everything with Airi it did not happen. Airi does not even seem broken up about Shingo either, Shingo has not even spoken to Airi in god knows how many eps. I honestly feel they did a horrible job of switching the focus from Airi to Miu and making Miu the love interest. Sure change the focus maybe but to throw away everything that was done and just completely deny it just is bringing my rating down. But really it should of been Airi or Sana, Miu was always my least favourite out of the 3 girls but thats not the main issue its what i said before that is. You'll get an answer with the last 2 episodes. |
| Anyone still think it is much different than Hoshizora? |
| I was kinda annoyed they dragged sena out like this, I like tsundere but I liked airi more in this case and was sad she got concluded so fast and then shafted, but wow I got pretty close to a little teary near the end...sad scene, if airi cried too it would have made it for me ;) It's weird, I like miu at certain parts like in ep9, but while at the club I find her annoying... >_> Edit: I agree a lot with the poster above. I wish the VN was translated...no sena ending in the VN makes me sad though ;d I also thought the confession scene was awkward. At least do that part right ! |
MoeMoeKyunDec 9, 2011 4:13 PM
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| Guess there isn't a thing called a happy ending in harems, the other girls always ends up getting screwed over. Unless they adapt the alternate two routes in the next two episodes, but what's the actual possibilities of that. Also, that confession... at least the guy actually confessed. It wasn't really done in the best way though, kind of an awkward hug. 3/5; characters are still really generic and linear, the cat thing probably has the most character development, changing from a timid introvert to whoring it up to the humans. |
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| ...bummer, Unless Something Big happens Next Episode, This Route is Already Done.. |
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pilipino101 said: I am very confused as to how the F Shingo fell in love with her. I mean, yeah, she had her moments, BUT he showed little to NO signs of liking anyone. I mean hell, I seriously thought it was going to be a full harem, then BOOM "Suki desu" WTF!!! I suggest you go back and rewatch. From the jump, he first met Miu and instantly start blushing. He admired her, and what she was doing. Those "little moments" is what he fell for. Airi might have been more of a story dynamic, but Miu was the one catching his eye the entire time. In fact, it was very realistic how things turned out. Slicer22 said: What i really still can't get over is that they have seem to have forgotten and are completely ignoring everything and anything that ever happened between Airi and Shingo, i mean really when was the last time he even spoke to her? They spent nearly half the anime building up their relationship and it looked like a firm Airi end Airi's main drama was her issues with boys in the school. And as Shingo told us, his main thing is that he likes to dissolve tension and make peace. So the dynamic of the first half was getting Airi to be comfortable around him. The feelings came from her, but on his end, he was just trying to become her friend, same with Sana. Since the school pretty much has accepted the boys, Airi understandably doesn't have much emphasis in this series anymore. |
Tenchi_Ryu said: and that's what Slicer22 is pointing on, discarding the character's significance to the story after she's used up for her arc (not a good writing or direction, IMO).. this could've still played out for Miu end while utilizing Airi's character development (like making her an adviser and good friend to Shingo) but in this case, virtually everything about this character Airi that they spent half the show focusing on was put to insignificant use (she doesn't even do class rep work with Shingo anymore and we don't see what's been happening to the school) and she was even almost removed from the scene.. they could've just made the entire thing in omnibus format if the transition from one arc to another wouldn't be good, or they could've lessened the focus on Airi in the first half (to the point where she need not have to invade Ange's arc) and actually started some Miu flags in there so as not to generate false hopes on Airi's shippers or certain logical plot expectations to the show.. i hope that even if Miu has won and they continue with the next ep, they also provide some sort of conclusion on what Airi has to say for herself and to wrap up where she stands in the show.. (so anyway, now that Airi is not picked, she's ours now.. hahaha..)Slicer22 said: What i really still can't get over is that they have seem to have forgotten and are completely ignoring everything and anything that ever happened between Airi and Shingo, i mean really when was the last time he even spoke to her? They spent nearly half the anime building up their relationship and it looked like a firm Airi end Airi's main drama was her issues with boys in the school. And as Shingo told us, his main thing is that he likes to dissolve tension and make peace. So the dynamic of the first half was getting Airi to be comfortable around him. The feelings came from her, but on his end, he was just trying to become her friend, same with Sana. Since the school pretty much has accepted the boys, Airi understandably doesn't have much emphasis in this series anymore. and well, after seeing the title for next episode ("Mashiro-iro Symphony"), i think next episode might be the last episode for the story of the anime.. ep 12 would probably be a bonus/side story or something.. |
argiliumDec 9, 2011 5:41 PM
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