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Jan 6, 2013 10:51 PM
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I keep on hearing people say this. Can HxH surpass FMA:B? Has it already done so?

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Jan 6, 2013 11:08 PM
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FMA 2003 > HxH > FMA:B

That's just how it is
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Jan 6, 2013 11:19 PM
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Mikasa said:
FMA 2003 > HxH > FMA:B

That's just how it is
Have you watched all of FMA B yet?

IMO it's the exact opposite, FMAB > HxH > FMA 2003


I don't know what you are expecting OP, In what way? While they are both shounen, FMAB is only 65 episodes while HxH will easily go over 100. The powers are more developed in HxH, but right now the story is better in FMAB than in HxH.
Jan 6, 2013 11:26 PM
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I was thinking the same thing.
Complete opposite.

FMA:B>HxH>FMA 2003

I'm still watching HxH (Almost complete), but yeah it's really better then FMA original(Well, I think it is.), but I still got to give it to FMA:B.

Thanks for reminding me though. Keep forgetting to update my list.
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Jan 7, 2013 12:31 AM
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Well, Mikasa likes pseudo-grimdark and edgy stuff...

Still, this question is kind of strange as HxH is the adaption of a weekly WSJ manga with 300+ chapters while FMA is the adaption of a monthly manga. Or what other categories do you refer to? HxH being FMA as in "popular not 'Big 3' Shounen" ("Big 3" is an idiotic term invented by Western idiots anyway)? Or as in "animation reboot of a good/popular Shounen manga"?
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Jan 7, 2013 12:34 AM
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Nidhoeggr said:
Well, Mikasa likes pseudo-grimdark and edgy stuff...

Still, this question is kind of strange as HxH is the adaption of a weekly WSJ manga with 300+ chapters while FMA is the adaption of a monthly manga. Or what other categories do you refer to? HxH being FMA as in "popular not 'Big 3' Shounen" ("Big 3" is an idiotic term invented by Western idiots anyway)? Or as in "animation reboot of a good/popular Shounen manga"?


Imo, FMA:B is the GOAT shounen. Can HxH dethrone it?
Jan 7, 2013 1:11 AM
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Jan 7, 2013 1:48 AM
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SunInSplendor said:
Nidhoeggr said:
Well, Mikasa likes pseudo-grimdark and edgy stuff...

Still, this question is kind of strange as HxH is the adaption of a weekly WSJ manga with 300+ chapters while FMA is the adaption of a monthly manga. Or what other categories do you refer to? HxH being FMA as in "popular not 'Big 3' Shounen" ("Big 3" is an idiotic term invented by Western idiots anyway)? Or as in "animation reboot of a good/popular Shounen manga"?


Imo, FMA:B is the GOAT shounen. Can HxH dethrone it?


Then it is just about your personal preference, rendering this whole thread useless as we are surely not able to decide about your own opinion...
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Jan 7, 2013 6:22 AM
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IntroverTurtle said:
Mikasa said:
FMA 2003 > HxH > FMA:B

That's just how it is
Have you watched all of FMA B yet?

IMO it's the exact opposite, FMAB > HxH > FMA 2003


I don't know what you are expecting OP, In what way? While they are both shounen, FMAB is only 65 episodes while HxH will easily go over 100. The powers are more developed in HxH, but right now the story is better in FMAB than in HxH.


No. 31 so far. But I don't think the rest will change my mind much.

@Nid just because there's violence doesn't make FMA or HxH grimdark. Actually going a bit below that makes them go to "too kiddy to show stuff" territory. But FMA:B's violence is fine.

What sucks is the execution. What made me love FMA 03 is how powerful the scenes with Nina and Maes as well as others. Brotherhood made those suck ass with how rushed they were. The rest is the same "funny because it's badly drawn" comedy we see in Magi. Even the midget jokes are overused, overdone and the delivery of the punchline is off.

So basically it's 40% comedy that isn't funny and the rest is awesome animation of badly executed scenes. New material is good but the whole hommunculi transforming into giant ugly monsters makes it seem like it's going the "too cliche" route. Ling on the other hand shows promise.

So, no. HA, YN, GI, CA and HC13E arcs are all individually better than what i've seen of Brotherhood so far, whereas 2003 had more impact.
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Jan 7, 2013 6:42 AM
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No. They are different. It isn't greater but is as great as it.
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IntroverTurtle said:

IMO it's the exact opposite, FMAB > HxH > FMA 2003


I don't know what you are expecting OP, In what way? While they are both shounen, FMAB is only 65 episodes while HxH will easily go over 100. The powers are more developed in HxH, but right now the story is better in FMAB than in HxH.
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Jan 7, 2013 9:32 AM

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Mikasa said:


No. 31 so far. But I don't think the rest will change my mind much.

@Nid just because there's violence doesn't make FMA or HxH grimdark. Actually going a bit below that makes them go to "too kiddy to show stuff" territory. But FMA:B's violence is fine.

What sucks is the execution. What made me love FMA 03 is how powerful the scenes with Nina and Maes as well as others. Brotherhood made those suck ass with how rushed they were. The rest is the same "funny because it's badly drawn" comedy we see in Magi. Even the midget jokes are overused, overdone and the delivery of the punchline is off.

So basically it's 40% comedy that isn't funny and the rest is awesome animation of badly executed scenes. New material is good but the whole hommunculi transforming into giant ugly monsters makes it seem like it's going the "too cliche" route. Ling on the other hand shows promise.

So, no. HA, YN, GI, CA and HC13E arcs are all individually better than what i've seen of Brotherhood so far, whereas 2003 had more impact.
The only thing you've seen in Brotherhood is what's been remade from 2003 + like 5 episodes, the rest is completely different. You haven't gotten to the best and powerful scenes in in the whole story let alone Brotherhood so you're wrong to say it isn't good at the execution of those scenes. Watch all of it before you complain of it not having something.
Jan 7, 2013 9:44 AM
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FMA is overrated, so I'd go with HxH is better than FMA. Though either way, this thread is pointless.
Jan 7, 2013 9:46 AM

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FMA is overrated, so I'd go with HxH is better than FMA.

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Jan 7, 2013 10:02 AM

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Not for me.

If the whole series were to be like the Genei Ryodan arc then i would consider it, but it's not.
Jan 7, 2013 10:05 AM

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Jan 7, 2013 10:19 AM

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The only good thing about FMA is how the first series handled it.

Other than that there's absolutely no way FMA is better. Even if it has asians.
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dranime1 said:
Candor said:
FMA is overrated, so I'd go with HxH is better than FMA.

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There is someone who is smart.
Jan 7, 2013 10:38 AM

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HxH>FMA:B≥FMA 03.

But they are all good to me.
Jan 7, 2013 10:53 AM

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HxH 99>*
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SetsukoHara said:
HxH>FMA:B≥FMA 03.

But they are all good to me.
Jan 7, 2013 1:38 PM

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There is no need for a thread like this.... FMA B, Old FMA , and HxH 13 are all great

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HxH 99 > FMA:B > HxH 2011 = FMA
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Jan 10, 2013 10:38 AM

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They're both better than the "big three", so who cares. Sides, you can also mention Jojo's Bizarre Adventure.
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They're both better than the "big three", so who cares. Sides, you can also mention Jojo's Bizarre Adventure.


I like JJBA a lot but story-wise it isn't that much at all :/
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Jan 13, 2013 1:56 AM
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My rating is something like this (so far)

HxH 99 > FMA B > HxH 2011 > FMA

Reasoning:
HxH 99 is by far the best written and directed out of the four. Both the source material and the many directorial additions work in tandem to create what I believe is, or will ever be, the best shonen style anime. This adaptation represents not only the power of the source material but the creative ability to take that to the next level in anime.

FMA B follows with lesser writing, direction and so on. One moment; a fight, as it were, in FMA B that stands out and possibly surpasses HxH 99 is *spoiler* Al vs. Crimson & Pride. Though short, that encounter embodies the 'cool' of FMA B in a single moment.

Unfortunately I am not such a fan of the new, 'true,' HxH anime adaptation. It lacks the style and tone of '99 and instead endorses a much neater though less interesting take on the story as a whole. I often feel that I am watching the manga as an animation rather than a different platform, or medium, of storytelling. It suffers from pacing issues and often plateaus at strange moments in an episode. However, I feel that Madhouse is improving with every few episodes; neatly in time for the Chimera Ant Arc >:)

FMA: I don't have much to say. I enjoyed it but it pales in comparison to Brotherhood in almost every way. A good adaptation no less, but those near-closing lines from Ed represent my feelings towards the storytelling: "Stop fu*king with me!"

TL;DR. narrow opinion over
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'11 > Brotherhood > '03 > '99

The only one I particularly dislike is '99. The rest are good even if '03 has some absolutely horrible anime adaptation ideas thrown in there they make up for it with some cool ones as well.

Oh, as for HxH vs. FMA on the whole(using brotherhood and '11/the mangas as a guide):
FMA has a magnitude of cringe humor that never stops with screaming chibis even well into the climax while HxH actually has some genuinely funny jokes. FMA is mostly just screaming or hitting while HxH has a wider array of jokes and is generally much more subtle with them. Granted humor isn't a major part of either franchise and the Armstrong family is pretty consistently funny so there's that.

FMA's plot is mostly original and enticing, big army conspiracy nonsense aside, but its themes were all simple and/or standard fare with stuff regarding the Gate as a personal standout. HxH consists of a lot of amusing twists on standard plots and has some more original moral messages brought about in a somewhat grey-scale moral world. Also with HxH a lot of stuff can be analyzed for deeper character or message meaning while FMA is pretty black-and-white and fully comprehensible in a first time viewing. FMA's story is much more guided and linear while HxH jumps more "organically" and apparently now will focus more on Leorio, Kurapika, and Ging. I'm not sure if I prefer one style over the other, though HxH's is less common.

On the whole I prefer HxH's characters, but FMA has a lot more with mostly concluded and satisfying arcs. I can't exactly count this against HxH when it isn't finished, though. Both introduce interesting characters consistently throughout the series, and while both franchises have some great characters I just generally "like" an HxH character more frequently.

I give the animation end to Brotherhood, even if it was the shorter series. HxH is still well done, but I like that Bones style of animation. For the soundtrack all 4 are mixed bags, but FMA has the best OP/EDs.
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FMA= FMA:B > HxH 2011 >>>>> HxH '99

FMA is just better in most respects. Tells a more intricate story with more interesting and likeable characters and combines more genres for an overall well-packed story. HxH is too inconsistent in comparison, and '99 was just bad. Half of it is spent on one of the less interesting arcs and slowest starts in anime in general. Couldn't finish it when the better 2011 version was available to watch.
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HxH > FMA;B ≥ HxH 1999 > FMA03

They are all great.
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HxH > FMA;B ≥ HxH 1999 > FMA03

They are all great.


The coorect order is....
HxH99=HxH2011(CA arc :P)>FMA2003>FMAB

But jokes aside they are all great in their own ways.
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If hxh had some kind of closure, then maybe it would
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hentai_eucli said:
If hxh had some kind of closure, then maybe it would

Did you also see FMA;B as "not belonging to the shonen demographic?"
Feb 24, 2015 8:20 AM

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Hhunter x Hunter (1999) >>> (2011) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> FMA:B
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^^ You gave it a 7 though, there can't be that many ">"s
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I dont they're comparable to be honest

They both may carry similiar themes but the way each is excecuted is very unique to themselves
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2011>FM:B

Chimera Ant arc is too stroooonk.
Feb 24, 2015 8:29 AM

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People need to stop comparing HxH to crap.
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HxH 1999 => FMA:B > FMA >>>>> HxH 2011.

Can't decide which one I like better, HxH 1999 or FMA:B. Maybe HxH 1999 a little bit more but it lacked the emotional impact that FMA:B had. I still put it in front of FMA:B though, slightly.
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I wonder if FMA 2003 and HxH 1999 would still be ranked so low (well not so much) on this site (or elsewhere) if FMA;B and HxH 2011 never existed
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^^ You gave it a 7 though, there can't be that many ">"s

7 by my ''I'm new to anime'' standards, which is a 5 or a 6 by my standards today, don't feel a point in changing it.

I would re-watch FMA:B just to see why it's praised so much, maybe I've missed a lot of stuff, when I first watched, but then again the thought of watching it again, bores me a lot.
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Agafin said:
^^ You gave it a 7 though, there can't be that many ">"s

7 by my ''I'm new to anime'' standards, which is a 5 or a 6 by my standards today, don't feel a point in changing it.

I would re-watch FMA:B just to see why it's praised so much, maybe I've missed a lot of stuff, when I first watched, but then again the thought of watching it again, bores me a lot.

It's easy to watch, widespread, and relatively well-done, so it's basically the Bebop effect.
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FMA:B > HxH 1999 > HxH 2011 > FMA (2003)
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7 by my ''I'm new to anime'' standards, which is a 5 or a 6 by my standards today, don't feel a point in changing it.

I would re-watch FMA:B just to see why it's praised so much, maybe I've missed a lot of stuff, when I first watched, but then again the thought of watching it again, bores me a lot.

It's easy to watch, widespread, and relatively well-done, so it's basically the Bebop effect.


He doesn't like Bebop either.

Interesting to see all the choices for '99. This should have a poll.
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Interesting to see all the choices for '99. This should have a poll.


People who prefer the original over the remake is a rare breed.
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HxH 2011 >>>> FMAB >> HxH 99 >>>>> FMA
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GreenSoap said:
RedRoseFring said:

Interesting to see all the choices for '99. This should have a poll.


People who prefer the original over the remake is a rare breed.

Not really.
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HxH >> FMA 2003 >>> FMAB

tsudecimo said:


I would re-watch FMA:B just to see why it's praised so much, maybe I've missed a lot of stuff, when I first watched, but then again the thought of watching it again, bores me a lot.


^ I am thinking about the same thing, but I think I'll abstain since the first 10 and the last few episodes were pretty much the only ones that I found impressive.
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danae17 said:

tsudecimo said:


I would re-watch FMA:B just to see why it's praised so much, maybe I've missed a lot of stuff, when I first watched, but then again the thought of watching it again, bores me a lot.


^ I am thinking about the same thing, but I think I'll abstain since the first 10 and the last few episodes were pretty much the only ones that I found impressive.

My exact sentiment. But rather than impressive, memorable is a more fitting word for me.

Most of my thoughts on FMA:B are this simple:
Exciting beginning, forgettable and boring middle (which is the majority of the show) and a good albeit anti climactic ending.
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danae17 said:
HxH >> FMA 2003 >>> FMAB

tsudecimo said:


I would re-watch FMA:B just to see why it's praised so much, maybe I've missed a lot of stuff, when I first watched, but then again the thought of watching it again, bores me a lot.


^ I am thinking about the same thing, but I think I'll abstain since the first 10 and the last few episodes were pretty much the only ones that I found impressive.


That's actually interesting because those are generally the least liked episodes.
Taking your post in opposite would then be a better perspective.
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