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| I said earlier (in the library episode) that this show is meant to have philosophy concepts illustrated, yes you should read more. Anyway it's such a shame to know this show got lower ratings because people couldn't understand it. you just kind of need to ask questions yourself, because when you face philosophy everything you previously knew as certain can be put in doubt. That's why you are all confused but then again I think noone here is older thant what 14 |
| I felt really confused this episode, not really understanding what was going on between the PROXYs. What happened to the mimic proxy? |
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| Now that was one fucked up episode. Really liked the doppleganger thing and Vincent's realisation is a important step in his character development. However, it feels the 2nd half has slowed down a bit. Also, these individual episodes are more of developing the characters rather than progressing the plot. Great episode. 5/5 |
Kagami_Hiiragi said: Idc if you think its weird, I have a life and friends and an income of money. |
| My brain overheated. |
"May those who accept their fate be granted happiness." "May those who defy their fate be granted glory." |
| WTF,i didn't know what the hell was going on. |
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souledge94 said: No theres no deeper meaning. We got a shape shifting proxy who didint want to be alone and couldint accept noone would accept it for what it was then killed everyone.THe whole episode felt like a waste of time with no real pay off. Hell what even happened to the mimic proxy it just leaves.Hell even re-l was still being a bitch at first but at least she kinda turned around in the end.The anime is still intersting but so far there are 2 episodes that felt like a waste and this was one. Yes there is a deeper meaning. We don't know for sure if there was another proxy or if it was just an illusion or something, but that's not the main point of the episode. It's not pointless either. Developing main characters never is. This episode explores Vincent's feelings and raison d'etre, as what the 'mimic' says is actually what Vincent feels as well. Metaphorically, Vincent sees himself reflected on the mimic, as they both have always felt alone and abandoned, but thanks (?) to Re-L Vincent finally realizes that he does have a reason to look forward and continue with his life. The episode also hints what Vincent did to his hometown. I don't want to make this a tl;dr so I'll leave it there (could write more though) but apart from developing characters and showing the way they are, this can also be taken as the director's reflection about existence and life, this anime in general tries to send a message and make the viewer think and question the meaning of existence and life in general (basically, existentialism). So no, this episode is not pointless at all, if you actually care to give it the attention it requires it's very fulfilling and thought provoking. It's not light to watch, but I find it very rewarding :) |
| pretty chaotic senario! thats what i expected from EP and thats what I want to see in animes... And btw, the conclusion of EP episodes always helps you improve your inner self! |
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| Just came to say what the hell did I just watch. Two of each? I'm guessing the proxy is making itself look like the both of them. Very confusing episode. |
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| Boy do I remember this episode. So much mind rape. |
| Holy shit. Be right back guys, putting back together all the scattered pieces of my brain. Been a while since I last saw something this amazing. Glad I picked up this series. |
| My brain hurts... |
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| Great episode. Somehow I have the weirdest déjà-vu with this series after this episode. I somehow have the feeling I watched this series before and I definitely haven't. I also see random flashes of scenes in my head that didn't happen in the anime but I feel I have seen them long ago. Wtf is happening... kie_ said: this episode was totally unnecessary No it wasn't. It was very important for the relationship and trust between the characters for their further journey. |
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| Ep 13/14 made me wonder if all Proxies have a 'relationship' with AutoReivs bc they are the only who seems able to stay with them, since AutoReivs are machines acting like they were programmed to act they don't 'judge' the Proxies... kinda hard to explain since English isn't my first language but I hope yall get my point. Miragee said: Great episode. Somehow I have the weirdest déjà-vu with this series after this episode. I somehow have the feeling I watched this series before and I definitely haven't. I also see random flashes of scenes in my head that didn't happen in the anime but I feel I have seen them long ago. Wtf is happening.... Same, but for me it's because I played Chrono Trigger (one of my favorite games) and it's quite similar. |
charlerwAug 12, 2015 1:05 AM
| That was pretty weird. |
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| Very confusing episode . |
| Sort of filler-ish episode, but it has to be my favorite one so far. The first half specially was handled really well. Gotta love some good mindfucks from time to time! |
| Once again.. my brain literally went kaboom. I guess Vincent manage to raise his affection level with Re-l..? In the end what was the episode trying to say. |
| A trippy episode but I like trippy stuff. It's interesting to see where this will go. lol also, |
| The afternoon has gently passed me by The evening spreads its sail against the sky Waiting for tomorrow Just another day God bid yesterday goodbye... |
| good ep. it shows how vincent rejected himselve that he was not alone anymore |
| This episode made it clear just how well-researched this show is and dripping in reference it is! Right away when they showed Re-L in the water I thought it looked familiar, and it turns out that it's most certainly a reference to the famous Ophelia painting by John Everett Milliais ("Ophelia" is the name of the episode and the grocery store). And of course that painting was based on the character Ophelia from Shakespeare's Hamlet, and her character is the definition of duality, which is exactly what this episode is about! Because they first show Re-L in the Ophelia (painting) pose, I thought the episode would focus on just her duality, but it seems to tackle the inner conflicts of both characters, especially how they see each other. We already know Re-L is very conflicted, from the moment she told Iggy that she couldn't even understand her own feelings (more details on this in the next paragraph). Vincent is certainly torn as well between his proxy self and "Vincent Law", and whether he can be allowed to be with Re-L and Pino. In Hamlet, Ophelia is torn between two distinct worlds/decisions and goes mad as a result, which is the feeling I think the writers wanted us to get from this episode (i.e. how people feel mad just watching it!). Also Ophelia drowns from her insanity, which we see quite literally happen to both Re-L and Vincent, though mostly the latter. I feel like Re-L and Ophelia have another direct relationship besides the painting and the duality aspect in general. Ophelia's conflicts come from choosing between loyalty to her father, as society expects, and her love for Hamlet. To me this feels extremely similar to how Re-L cannot decide if she wants to kill Vincent and bring him back to Romdo, the politically correct thing to do, or be with him. Clever, clever writing, Ergo Proxy staff! Good thing this episode had a happier ending, unlike Hamlet's Ophelia (for now) |
| Strange episode..!!! Barely absorbed a what happened |
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| I think I'm drunk from drinking too much water Shouldn't watched this while drunk Preview... Wat? |
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| Proxies change their appearance in order to become someone accepted by others... this was interesting. A nice episode. |
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karineyn said: Proxies change their appearance in order to become someone accepted by others... this was interesting. A nice episode. Yeah I loved this episode. Was kind of confused at the start but the more was shown the more I understood what was going on or what the meaning of this episode was. - (Most of it already explained in previous posts) |
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| I liked this episode better than the bookstore episode. In the bookstore episode it was rather.. plain, and it just revolved around the "self" or "ego" concept. But with this one it involved Re-l as well and revolved around a bigger (and empty) setting of that city. I especially liked the ending where Re-l said she only recognized him because of his reflection, indicating his "self." Was a nice, subtle ending with a deeper meaning. |
 Three things cannot be long hidden.. ...the s u n, the m oo n, and the tr u th. |
| If you pretend to be someone else, no one will love you for who you really are. Makes sense. A pretty fun breather episode. destinyunknown said: This episode explores Vincent's feelings and raison d'etre, as what the 'mimic' says is actually what Vincent feels as well. Metaphorically, Vincent sees himself reflected on the mimic, as they both have always felt alone and abandoned, but thanks (?) to Re-L Vincent finally realizes that he does have a reason to look forward and continue with his life. The episode also hints what Vincent did to his hometown. Interesting points. And yeah, we still don't know what happened in Mosque. |
LeeTailorMay 16, 2017 2:25 PM
| I liked it but found it odd that they didn't show what happened to the other proxy. Guess vincent just killed it offscreen. |
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| Living in a big grocery store. "Is this real?" 5/5 I do really enjoy this kind of thing. |
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| The whole time I was just thinking 'cursed supermarket episode?'. The pool of reflection thing is done well here though. |
Pino is too cute for her own good!   Oh man, this morphing Proxy had me confused as fuck during this episode. Haha But it's a good thing they're all reunited again. |
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| Wanted to say something about this episode, but all I could think of was 'beautiful,' but that really only describes the imagery of the lake, with Re-l floating and sinking. That Vincent sort of sees 'himself' in that Proxy's double of him seems to have given him, or maybe he's already had it, a more optimistic(?) reason to go on this journey. The direction was super-tight, again. |
syncrogazerJan 30, 2019 8:29 PM
| annoying af episode .... |
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| Anybody else sick of seeing RE-L get slapped around like a chump? She's about as competent as Sakura at this point. |
| "Bang." -Spike Spiegal "Everything... is connected." -Lain Iwakura "Life is too short to watch bad anime. Long Live the 1st Episode Drop." -InkSpider "Anime fans make me embarrassed to be an anime fan." -InkSpider |
| ambition makes you look pretty ugly |
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| loved the episode until the end where it became kinda anticlimactic to be honest. Would've wanted a darker end to the episode. The concept was probably my favourite out of all the other episodes! |
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| SCP-3008 vibes with this one. Besides my brain feeling drained trying to grasp this one at it's peak trip, I really enjoyed the psychological aspects this one brought into it. The persistent message of one's acceptance in the world, changing your outer appearance to better please those around you for them to only reveal your veil and not be too fond of what they see, leading to the question of one's purpose or existence. This concept concludes in the end with Vince feeling reassured through this dilemma through Re-I and Pino as they accept him for who he is, allowing him to find a better understanding of life. I really enjoyed the ride this one provided and if anything, really stood out as one of my favorites. Certain shows try to take diversions from their stories like this and tend to fail to provide proper entertainment, but this one did a great job of keeping me pulled in. |
Celest__Jun 7, 2021 5:54 PM
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| Surprising episode! Still, I was wondering what the original Proxy appearance was. But I guess based on his backstory. He killed everyone in the town and eventually he became alone as he wanted. Seeing Re-L get "killed" by Vincent as if she was real. Damn. Definitely would have scarred me T__T Seeing Pino run away scared like that. Damn!     |
| that smile at the end, could she be possibly warming up to Vincent? |
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| it had an endless eight vibe and then i thought the repetition was driving them to madness but then about halfway through, not too long before pino, i figured there was two. cool beginning, okay end, terribly frustrating and boring middle but as a concept i guess it wasn't terribly executed but coming after the last one where he was in the "book store" it's a bit much. |
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| One of the strongest episodes so far, thematically. This truly took Re-L and Vince's relationship to the next level. The visual representation of comparisons to Hamlet were really well done, juxtaposed to the other Proxies. I felt a lot was able to be done in that 20 minute time span. The best directed episode, for sure. |
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