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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- this episode was cool |
| What a wonderful flashback between Shouma and Himari, but I'm still confused about the plot thought. |
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| OMGGGG, i so need subs. i need subsssssssssssssssssssss. well, at least it is confirmed: Masako x Kanba x Mario =siblings. Sanetoshi is still a pedo for Himari. Himari went to talk with him about LOVE. Frozen place is somewhat near penguins and Child broiler. Kanba has an apple too, but Shou did share his apple with Himari. Cried tears of blood with Little Shou x Himari x Kitten (perfect family) T_T seriously, the soundtrack was so perfect and the scenes were cuteness overload. It secretly made me ship Himari x Shou for a moment. Shou being emo and being comforted by Ringo...again. But still...wow im so impressed with Little Shou. What a great sweet hardworking kid. period. Take that, those who said Shou was useless. And it seems everything will return to "normal"? (Aka, happy family life). |
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| Subs needed. Now. Judging by the Masako calling Kanba Onii-sama, we know that her, Kanba and Mario are all siblings... So none of the three mains are related? At least, that's what I got from it. They still seem to be pushing Ringo x Shouma though, hey? What was being said while Kanba was talking with his parents? He said Himari's name a lot and seemed pretty stressed... It's hard guessing when I have no idea what they're saying T.T |
Kipcha said: They still seem to be pushing Ringo x Shouma though, hey? What was being said while Kanba was talking with his parents? He said Himari's name a lot and seemed pretty stressed... It's hard guessing when I have no idea what they're saying T.T I think the show is now leaning towards Shouma x Himari now, though it seems to be getting deeper than just a "love" relationship. Oh, Kanba was just saying Himari really needs medical fee for her treatment and he is the only one who can save her life. (Ironically, Kanba is becoming more and more left out of the loop though as the time goes on...) |
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Orulyon said: let me join the sobbing club... that part was just epic.. TT__TTCried tears of blood with Little Shou x Himari x Kitten (perfect family) T_T seriously, the soundtrack was so perfect and the scenes were cuteness overload. It secretly made me ship Himari x Shou for a moment. Orulyon said: I might have got it all wrong.. but it sounded the opposite way to me... so let's wait for the subs to confirm, there's a couple of words that keep me away from being 100% sure...And it seems everything will return to "normal"? (Aka, happy family life). btw, Orulyon, I wasn't right at all about Shouma's decision to save Himari being "forced" by his parents. He did save Himari in a similar way to Momoka and it doesn't look like it was in Takakura's mind at that time. It seems it was Shouma himself who forced Himari into Takakura's family if not against than at least without any agreement to his parents. But Sanetoshi is a... such a... to decide to act on it.. and looks like he played Himari's card well - Kamba's onboard. stevewiess01 said: are you certain about it? To me it sounded like:"Why do I have to pay the doctor's bill for Himari's treatment? Only I can save her" - it's like, we don't need that Sanetoshi with his pills.Oh, Kanba was just saying Himari really needs medical fee for her treatment and he is the only one who can save her life. (Ironically, Kanba is becoming more and more left out of the loop though as the time goes on...) ADD: And that faceless guy made its appearance again...somehow he creeps me out... He and Mario are the only two guys from whom I've got no ideas what to expect... |
soulelleNov 24, 2011 4:50 PM
soulelle said: are you certain about it? To me it sounded like:"Why do I have to pay the doctor's bill for Himari's treatment? Only I can save her" - it's like, we don't need that Sanetoshi with his pills. Kanba: 「そうだよ。陽鞠には、どうしても治療費が必要なんだ。陽鞠を救えるのは、俺しかいない。」 I suppose you're confused with the phrase どうしても, which means "by all means" or "at any cost", with どうして which means "why". There's a similar grammatical pattern with also 何でも、どこでも、いつでも, etc |
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stevewiess01 said: true that! thanks for your help! ^^ I guess I really better wait for subs before drawing any further conclusionsKanba: 「そうだよ。陽鞠には、どうしても治療費が必要なんだ。陽鞠を救えるのは、俺しかいない。」 I suppose you're confused with the phrase どうしても, which means "by all means" or "at any cost", with どうして which means "why". There's a similar grammatical pattern with also 何でも、どこでも、いつでも, etc |
| This is episode was beautiful! but how can you do that to me? it's like it's already settle down that Himari and Shouma is a pair! What will happen to ringo? :'( Me too, I need sub. I didn't understand all the Satenoshi's talk about love and kiss! XD By the way, Satenoshi is handsome! |
Onii said: WHAT KANBA IS MASAKO'S BROTHER? That is one of the only predictable things that has happened so far :P |
| I am....So confused. Ok, so Kanba, Souma, and Himari are all unrelated. And as it turns out, Kanba is related to Masako. Kanba is in love with Himari while Himari is in love with Souma, who is the love interest for Ringo. And I'm still unsure about the plot. What is this Survival Strategy? What are those penguins supposed to do? What's with all these penguin hats? What's the diary supposed to do? Maybe I missed some obvious points in the show but I'm so damn confused now. Oh dear lord, what the heck is happening in this show. @_@ |
| I think Himari's adorable and all, but I'd really like to see Shouma and Ringo end up together, but I really don't see it happening since Shouma hates himself... (or rather his parents) so much that he can't stand being near Ringo because his parents killed her sister.... But does Shouma love Himari in the way that she supposedly loves him? I mean she does say that Shouma is her "soulmate" and this all is connected to the fruit that he hands her and how it's the fruit of fate also having a sort of connection to the apple that "adam and eve" shared. Yeah that's about all I got out of it. In my opinion, I think that Shouma sees her more as a little sister and he loves her. "Sibling" love...but I'm so darn confused too. I still have no idea what the heck survival strategy fits into the plot, no idea why the penguins are there and do, don't know what the diary does...Saw Mario or whatever the name was...but how does this have to do with a penguin hat? Gahh it's all so confusing... I really wish they'd clear some things up. :( |
EarlCielNov 24, 2011 8:33 PM
| so sad. :') can't wait for next week's episode. The shows ending is on the horizon! Nooooo!!!!!! DDDDDX |
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| The one thing I find interesting is in the intermission episode 24's stop is still not being showed and it's at the end of a curve.. |
| EPISODE 20, Y U SO CONFUSING? ; 3 ; Right now, I'm just trying to wrap my head around their parents being involved with the whole "Survive Strategy" thing. And it ties in with the penguin-aliens, the concept of fate, Momoka, the Child Broiler, etc. My current thoughts and probably inaccurate analysis:
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Yuri-chiiNov 24, 2011 10:09 PM
| this anime just keeps going back and forth, round and around and im getting... tired. lol where is this going?!?! |
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| HOLY CRAP i loooove this show! it just keeps getting better and better but how the hell will it end?! |
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| This music in this episode was 'fabulous max'! xd |
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| I really loved this episode. The flashback scenes were beautiful <3 I'm even more confused about the relationships, but nothing really surprises me anymore with this anime XD Can't wait for next week! |
| I need all the new ED's NAO!!! O_o This one was awesome. |
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| One of the better epsiodes as of lately. I am a bit sad that they seem to be pushing Sho x Himari so hard and Kanba is starting to be portrayed more and more in a negative light :c |
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| stop with the sho-chan x himari please>< kanba is being left out now... I really want to see how this anime will end.. especially when they have so many stuff to explain.. like the relationship between momoka and pedo-sanetoshi o-o and of course, what the penguin drum is.. which they already hinted it in ep17 :D |
Onigiri-sanNov 24, 2011 11:51 PM
| I do not accept ShouxHimari...ShouxRingo please...I'm so use to them being paired and arguing, lol. With 4episodes left, I wonder how everything is gonna end, I really don't have the slightest clue still wtf is going on...Wasn't it finding the penguindrum? or is that now Shouma and Himari's love..? And anyone see the similarities with Shouma/Momoka? They both seem to have things that "normal" children wouldn't posses..The fruit of faith and the diary...Regardless, I love this show and all it's unanswered questions that never seem to end. |
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arrozykamehameha said: Very true, the ost is amazing so far but the music specifically in this episode was just phenomenal. I especially love the women's voice singing that glorious "ah" in the background.This music in this episode was 'fabulous max'! xd |
| Amazing episode. Kind of need a breather so far because as the following part in the spoiler OH THE IRONY! Hohoho! Still most amazing meeting in such a small apartment. Apart from the sudden realization of the irony I really did T_T at the following,  Himari! Poor poor Himari! Her parents must have been assholes for throwing her away like that! I truly am very thankful of Shouma in the spoiler Comes Shouma in the spoiler The cat arc was quite nice. In fact I was surprised that Shouma did bring milk and fed the cat of it. While that place where that cat was is really ghetto. The best of that segment were Himari smiles/shy faces in the spoiler  That Himari x Shouma part with the scarf was fabulous max possible but not at that age. Shouma did have a nice face here. In thee end I am just glad Himari is all happy again in the spoiler BTW Image Stitches have been done in the club: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=368727 Himari looks really nice. End art in the spoiler |
Yumekichi11Nov 25, 2011 2:49 AM
| The Child Broiler episodes always seem a bit slow, I nearly forgot about Momoka and Survival Strategy. I hope everything will be adequately covered by the end of the show. I'm guessing that Kanba and Shouma are half-brothers since the dad seems to be interacting with both of them in the flashback. Natsume and Kanba are legit siblings, but what about Mario? Why would Natsume, the older sister, call her supposed brother Mario-san? |
| (◕ᴥ◕し) Hello! Did you know? Barnacles have the largest penis to body size ratio of the animal kingdom. |
| Can't complain about them pushing ShoumaxHimari, because if it is romantic, it seems very one sided to me; he's always thinking about family after all. While I'm on the subject of those two, I couldn't stop being aware that they gave the kitten the same name as Himari's penguin. The 'Kanba and Masako are siblings' thing is interesting, and kinda changes my opinion about her motives... even though I'm still questioning what exactly it is she wants and why. Anyway, I'm very interested in Kiga/ the former Penguin Force's motives. Kenzan's speech at the beginning is full of terms we've heard before, but little context for them. He's talking about being in a frozen world, but that the 'Flame of Hope' is burning strong; considering how fire is associated with Momoka (...and, in the opening, Ringo), they want to do the whole world jumping/changing thing? |
| If any of my posts seem odd, it's probably because I'm tired. Sorry. I have sleeping issues. |
| Very good episode,we got confirmation of many things. First Kanba/Natsume are confirmed siblings something many people already suspect,still as some say they had already kiss so "incest is in the air" or maybe there is still something else we will see. Shouma/Himari flashback was amazing the OST was on top form specially the scene when Shouma rescue her that was a amazing song i wan the OST NOW!!. Also the new couple rise and Kanba got kick in the nuts by Shouma x Himari but......no just NO Shouma x Ringo = win but will see T_T Yumekichi11 said: Still most amazing meeting in such a small appartment. The meeting place was interesting but still obvious since most of the time all secret meetings are in shit holes. With many questions answer but at the same time new ones rise...4 more to go lets hope they keep the lvl until the end. BTW Pedo doctor is win. |
raxius1230Nov 25, 2011 2:16 AM
| Interesting episode. Cute flashback moments with Sho and Himari = ♥ And so I was right about thinking that Kanba and Masako could be related. I wonder how Sho is related to them. 'Cause when they saw him playing outside...I think Masako said something about "our" father but I'm not sure if she meant "our" as in her, Mario and Kanba, or whether Sho was included in the "our". Though it's possible that Sho is their cousin (which is another theory I have). Only four more episodes. I wonder how it'll end. |
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| Two episodes and the show destroyed two other shipping that is built up in 18 episodes. IKUUUUUUUUUUHAAAAAAARAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! |
| While the Shouma/Himari scenes are cute Shouma/Ringo is way better. I guess I can feel a bit better shipping Kanba/Himari now since it isn't incest cause they are not blood related. Can't wait to see what happens next. |
"What has two arms, two legs, and is alive? Not your favorite character lol! xD" |
| Shouma why you so pathetic and negative? The useless one gets a harem while Kanba has only Masako. |
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| hmmmm..This episode explains that Kanba is Masako & Mario's brother,we are not actuallly explained that they are real siblings or step ones but my guess is that they are not real siblings since both Masako & Kanba have same age(am I right?) or atleast the age gap between them is small.So this makes Shou & Kanba half-brothers.Himari isn't part of the family but she is adopted with Shou's help. |
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| A little worried about how they're gonna end this, with four eps left and all. I do, however, have high hopes that they will end this in Fabulous Max fashion, so yeah, still awesome ^^ |
| "Isn't life, by nature, a contest decided by a single round? However trifling the matter, it's not possible to return to the last save point by pushing some reset button." - Kazuki Hoshino, Hakomari, Vol. 1 |
| Wow, that was the most beautiful anime episode, I've seen in a long time. =) But damn, just when the cat got my name, it died. ._. |
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| I dare to say that this is probably my favourite episode of this show not to mention my favourite anime episode of the past few months. No other has captured me and effected me on such an emotional level like this. Even though the mood was very calm and quiet it didn't feel dull for a second. Especially the coldness of the apartment complex added to the melancholy feeling. I have to say that I wasn't surprised to see that Kanba is actually related with Masako and Mario since the flashback about Masako's childhood already hinted at that . |
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| damnit damnit damnit damnit DAMNIT! ;~; As much as I shipped Himari x Kanba during this entire show, how can I not ship Himari x Shoma after seeing that story!? ;___; |
| This anime. I am slain. *cries* |
| Lawd. I don't even know what pairing to root for anymore. I thought I was behind Kanba/Himari and way against Shoma/Himari, but this episode was so beautiful and touching. Possibly one of the best episodes I've ever seen, that's how much of an impression it left on me. Also that vocal music toward the end of the episode was gorgeous. This anime is absolutely stunning Though I do have to say I'm not too fond of Shoma/Ringo... |
DropletNov 25, 2011 8:14 AM
Orulyon said: Cried tears of blood with Little Shou x Himari x Kitten (perfect family) T_T seriously, the soundtrack was so perfect and the scenes were cuteness overload. This soundtrack... unbelieveable. Allow me to say something related to all the disdain that the series has suffered, and accusations of being "pseudo". All we are seeing now that all this embellished and poetic talk, unlike in Bakemonogatari for example, is not just decoration, it is not just to be cute, actually had content behind those words. And not just figments of Ikuhara's mind, it was talking about real issues, the real world. The Child Broiler is the biggest example. For more crazy it is, it is REAL. some of you may have fished the context of this whole situation throughout the series, and its context to Japan today, but I realized that for most foreigners it all is difficult to perceive and UNDERSTAND. I, for example. I'm from Brasil. We see that the Ikuhara's talking about the context and consequences of the brilliant 1980s, Japan experienced, and the bubble burst in the 1990s. What happened here was the opposite. In the 1980s the country was at rock bottom, deep down, scraping the bottom of it. Until the 1990s when the country began to recover, and look where they are Brazil and Japan today. Brazil is seen as being in a good moment, with prospects of growth, while Japan is in a great stagnation and no hope of a bright future as the past. The more I understand about what Ikuhara is talking, I will never understand the same and feel the same way that the Japanese public. I feel limited to appreciate Mawaru Penguindrum for the artistic point of view only. But for the Japanese it may have a much greater meaning and relevance. It is a work that is reflective of its time. Zeitgeist The ARB's songs in this regard are still better and has further significance because they were written just at the moment upon which the series talks. I feel accomplished. |
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