Mawaru Penguindrum Episode 24 Discussion
Dec 22, 2011 10:08 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
So it's finally here! PENGUIN DRUM! YEAH! Wild! Totally insane in the following,
Naturally everyone has a heart and emotions. So this is why everyone has it. The ending was just crazy of this episode and so was this series. It was totally insane. What I find the most insane and I TT_TT so much! Nothing can describe the following,
RINGO! SHOUMA! Unbelievable the pain of seeing him disappear just like that.
One of the poignant things is Himari being seen far many more times naked with a full frontal one in the spoiler (NSFW)
About the box, the fact of this part is that Shouma/Kanba’s faces along with their bodies in the spoiler
About Fate Train part 1, at first I really though that Kanba surrounded by his men here looked cool and even more so in the spoiler
Himari’s sleeping face here and Kanba looked more badass with his face here. Found it hilarious while baffling of the penguins in the spoiler
About Fate train part 2, as soon as Ringo appeared in the spoiler
About Survival Strategy, I was actually more surprised of Himari not having those eyes of a different colour. That was quite refreshing as her eyes are of a different colour when she does that. While I did find the hat going down nice with the sparkles and twirls, I was totally confused on how Himari did not really go well here. Hard somewhat for me to spot her position like that. However she was hot along with Kanba in the spoiler
About the payments starting, well certainly the one of Kanba in the spoiler
About the payments starting part 2, as soon as Ringo here was shown here I knew that the Fate transfer started. I knew somehow she knew the spell deep down. A rather interesting depiction here of the lives and “Scorpion fire” whom IMO is where the bombs are placed. While Kanba holding Himari like a prince here pays dearly in the spoiler
About Sanetoshi/Momoka meeting, starts out nicely with a spotlight setup on opposite rails. Notice right away super Frog red book behind Sanetoshi here and you find out something interesting That the Frog indeed paid for its sin since it’s red and not green anymore. While Momoka in the spoiler
About thee end, let’s separate it simply style into three parts that tell a lot.
Yuri/Tabuki, both were nice in the spoiler
Mario/Natsume: while Mario in the spoiler
Himari/Ringo: very interesting setup to end this anime. Seems like a total World Line change and major at that. According to the spoiler
Conclusion, I don’t know too much of what to make in the spoiler
In thee end solid 9/10 for me.
BTW End art in the spoiler
Image Stitches done in the spoiler
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Crying bitch tears. Anime of the year. Of all years. It was an amazing ride, and an amazing end.
I have no words. It's bittersweet, it's bittersweet as hell, especially when we saw a picture of Himari and... was it Ringo's parents? instead of all the Takakuras, and the scene where Himari cries at that poorly sewed teddy bear... but this ending is simply beautiful.
I thought that Kamba will die for love since he got the apple in the box, but god, he shared it ;_; and they both died for love... But then again it turns out they're probably real twins in the fate they changed the previous one to. It's actually kind of sweet.
I can hear shipperfags crying, but, as I am a shipfag myself, I was actually pretty much happy with what we got. And Tabuki/Yuri scene. Though I'm still not sure what is exactly the way they love each other. Who cares. At least they got a happy end.
To think the end was implied on the very start, in a small talk of kids (who turn out to be main heroes in the end)... Well, we all thought it'll be significant, but... No one knew WHO is going to die for love.
I think I'll write more when I'll watch the episode subbed. Or at least a raw which isn't lagging like the Keyhole.
10/10 for this series either way
Dec 22, 2011 11:06 AM
Kamba and Shouma exchange the promise? Kamba finding the apple and he shared with Shouma.
Ringo also came to the train. W H uses Himari's important phrase for the song, and the spell is "Let's eat the destined fruits"?
Kamba's blood becoming apple is... So the apple is the penguindrum?
Kamba shattering after finding his "light". And Shouma is sharing the pain with burning Ringo. + confession.
Ringo's sister took both hats away!! And the black bears became white.
The history is changed, so Kamba and Shouma are not related to the girls.
Modified by tsubasalover, Dec 23, 2011 3:05 AM
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I have to say this has been quite the wild ride. I definitely have mixed emotions about the end. I am a fan of happy endings, I tend to preference them. I didn't start this series expecting something so bittersweet. I am happy it worked out in its own way and I love the deeper meaning throughout the entire series. The music was great, the visuals were some of the best I had seen this year.
I am rating the series an 8, it was a 9 for me but I just can't.
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Extremely sad yet beautiful ending.
Edit: One thing I didn't understand (maybe because I don't really understand Japanese yet and I watched raw) was if Himari and Ringo remembered Shouma and Kanba at the end of the series
No, they have no memories of the brothers.
Himari found the stuffed bear and cried so I know she knew of what happened for her but did she know before that?
She was crying but she said she didn't know why she was crying. So she didn't remember. Well, you could say a part of her heart "remembers", but that's all.
Dec 22, 2011 6:33 PM
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Clearly copied the ending from Madoka, 4/10
...huh? Have you even watched Madoka?
Anyway. This ending was so beautiful, I didn't expect the brothers to die. My eyes widened at the part where Shouma told Ringo it was 'their punishment.'
10/10, would erase my memory to watch again.
Dec 22, 2011 8:04 PM
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I have yet to recover my senses.
I haven't felt this way in a long time.
This series is astonishing.
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I liked how the conversation at the end between the two brothers is the same as the young boys in Ep.1 - with their fates/timelines/universe/whatever changed and they were 'switched out' for Kanba and Shouma. That brief conversation between those two boys in Ep. 1 gives more insight about what happened.
I'm a fan of all-around happy endings but I was okay with this one - for the most part. 9/10
Dec 22, 2011 8:39 PM
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I dunno guys. I feel like so much of the "symbolism" and "depth" was just pretentious posturing and pointless obligatory shock-value plot twists. Ringo's character development was great, but the rest of it...And don't even get me started on the ending.
I have no idea/10
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Haters gonna hate and hypers gonna hype
The end didn't satisfy me. I get why Himari needed the apple, since she was abandoned. But Shouma had parents. And teh Takakuras didn't seem the type to abandon him.
Kanba had his dad too. And what about Mario? What the hell was he doing in the anime?
And Momoka? Sanetoshi was a terrorist and his ghost was his curse. They didn't explain what was special about Momoka.
Too many unaswered questions.
So, for the Madokafags any anime that ends with a world reset is a copy huh? I wonder what those guys have to say about Lain...
I dunno guys. I feel like so much of the "symbolism" and "depth" was just pretentious posturing and pointless obligatory shock-value plot twists.
So, when symbolism isn't pretentious? It was one of the good points. He told a very common story in a very creative way, with all the flashbacks and symbols. Though I did find the symbolism in this last ep a bit excessive.
Nice to see Kanba being cut by the broiler shards and Shouma being burned by Momoka fire.
But what I found really strange is that in the end they weren't together, even though the anime was about family. I guess Ikuhara decided to be a drama queen and have the boys sacrifice themselves to break the cycle of hate.
It was a very entertaining anime, Ringo and the penguins were awesome and the comedy was good AND smart. I don't think Ikuhara is a genius writer, but he is a genius director. The use of the OST, the way he managed the flashbacks and the symbolisms and the whole conduction of the anime were almost flawless.
CYCLE OF HATE!? ENDING COPIED FROM CODE GEASS. /troll
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Wow. Just wow. 10/10.
That ShoumaxRingo scene killed me... As good as Kanba/Himari scene was, I felt Ringo's and Shouma's was more emotional, perhaps it was the whole fire thing and Shouma basically saying "it's not hers to fix"... Or I'm probably just a big biased ShoumaxRingo fag.
I'm more Kanba/Himari biased but Ringo/Shouma scene was...... OH GAWD... more emotional imo. The 'I love you' killed me! How he pushed her away and went in the flames...... ))):
It REALLY did remind me Madoka however, i was ind of expecting this kind of ending.
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