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Feb 20, 10:07 PM
#1
From when I got into anime in the early 2010's, I've always heard the story of a certain anime. It was called I Got Reincarnated As Diddy and Now I Wanna Go to the Store to Buy a Cupcake, an 80's anime released in 2006. Despite being released in 2006, having a second season in 2009 and a movie in 2010, when people talked about it near the mid 2010's, those were already talks of "Oh man, it used to be so famous and now nobody talks about it anymore", which caused it to have this mysterious aura for me, because at the time this concept of anime being forgotten seemed quite rare, almost unheard, due to way less anime being released yearly. What causes this phenomenon? |
Feb 20, 10:20 PM
#2
Bad endings, gradual decline, lack of complimentary media after the manga/anime ends like video games or promotional ads or collabs. |
Feb 20, 11:55 PM
#3
"What causes popular anime to become forgotten?" 1. Anime fandom working on hype, instead of actual appreciation. 2. Anime fandom being focused on social experience and social interactions instead of did they actually liked said anime or are they just using it to talk with people. And it's unclear to my why stuff like Naruto and JoJo have a bigger staying power that lets say Nana (none of those three is a favorite of mine), but the anime society somehow decides and some stuff like Noragami is remembered despite being aggressively boring and masterpieces like Uchouten Kazoku are forgotten. |
Feb 21, 12:31 AM
#4
With the passing of time, we eventually forget even the most important things, so... TIME 😎 |
Feb 21, 12:55 AM
#5
Certain aspects of the show not resonating with the current generation. Also E8 did more damage to Haruhi's longevity than the movie could make up for. |
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Feb 21, 1:10 AM
#6
In the case of Haruhi Suzumiya, there are way more stuff left in the source material that need to be animated but for some reason KyoAni and other studios decided to not pick them up. Popularity will stay if there were more adaptations from the leftovers of the source material. But sadly this never happened. So this is one of the reason why Haruhi franchise has died. The novels themselves is now on hiatus, only one or two other novels were released few years back. So there aren't enough stuff to keep the franchise going. As for anime in general, the hype dies very quickly among the typical anime fandom - the ones that are more into mainstream stuff than what's niche. So in a few years, unless some of these fans constantly talking about them, these mainstream anime shows will be forgotten as time passes. |
Feb 21, 1:34 AM
#7
Never heard it about it, been watching anime for more than 20 years. It's pretty simple, Popular has like two tiers, There's popular holy shit good shows trending for the recent and past years and then there's the Masterpiece culture type. So that type is like shows that really came with a bang, they were all over japan (like u cant turn to a direction in tokyo without seeing posters, merch sell, promos of it), they set the standards for other upcoming animes in that genre, and also they had an immediate impact in the western world, like that was your go to see anime for every fan or new anime viewers in the west introduced to japan's culture. that's the difference of being forgotten or not. I'll give some examples: let's start with the biggest once, has to be one piece, like it's all over world, netflix adaptions, stage plays like i can go on and on, when people think anime, One piece jumps to their head and it's huge huge culture thing in japan, i can't even call it anime there. Next one i'll go with dragon ball Z, it set the standards for so many anime shows in that era, it was so popular that all western countries channels got it, personally it was my first anime, it's not my most favorite now anymore because i was exposed so many others, but i grew up watching it and without it i doubt i knew what anime is. Other examples can be Inuyasha, romance and shonen classic, but i think what it does more for the western world is that it shows the Japan's old time, which looks completely different to our history, first encounter with a Shrine's Mikou, how people dressed there, the crazy haircuts, lots of stuff, so it was very educational. Sakura the card capture perhaps for many kids and mainly girls. Another one is Ranma, is set the standard for so many Romcoms and was huge all across the world. (I wonder if Frieren can be a next one) And this is my wish, hopefully Re:zero it's my fav anime so my comment is bias here, but i think it did set the standard for many Isekais, wasn't it the first one animated? and it was a culture thing after the first season, not sure if it's the same case today in japan tho. Lastly, not much of an anime, but there's not one person who reads manga and doesn't know Berserk. And you literally have Dark souls/Elden Ring games taking refences from it. But ya then i can mention a lot of other super popular good shows with many movies and OVAS that WILL BE FORGOTTEN with time, like Haiikyu, My hero academia, Euphonium, Spice and wolf, Psycho pass, i can go on to mention more and more, like Jujutsu Kaisen and Demon Slayer (even tho im not sure where to put it, yes its popular all over the world, but maybe it's too early yet and i can't tell if it'll be forgotten 20-30 years later, most people love it due to insane animations, i like it, but it's not on my top anime list, i'm more of a story person and it's kinda Meh there) Hope This answers your question, the difference is how impact it has/had all over the world, if it setting the standards for a new era of anime and how it inserted to Japan's current culture. |
Feb 21, 2:13 AM
#8
Because the newbies doesn't want to give older anime a chance. |
Feb 21, 2:26 AM
#9
Haruhi was build up on its mystery and weird airing episode order. It killed itself essentially, with s2 having the same episode repeated 8 times that made many to drop it and the movie while well received felt disconnected and like a love letter to Nagato fans than anything else. Nothing came afterwards so people moved on to stuff like the Monogatari series. I got a better example OP, does anyone remember Shakugan no Shana and how big that was? |
Feb 21, 2:34 AM
#10
I think a bad release, loss of momentum can have an impact. If a show was once pushing high quality and consistent releases and then just drops off the face of the Earth that isn't very good. Combined this with long running and it can become difficult for people to invest in a show. What I gave noticed is shows like Bleach which got cancelled before it's recent revival are an example of this were the long running nature, filler and such took it down before it finally was brought back with a fresh look. And Haruhi Suzumiya is an example of an anime totally falling off in releases. It's interesting cause the Nasuverse or Gundanverse do show an interesting resistance to say fall off or feeling too samey. I think cause they don't have coherent tight episode yo episode storylines across seasons but self contained storyline with slight references to prior shows and for UC Gundam subtle story threads they avoid the issues of burn out or difficulty for new anime watchers to jump in. |
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Feb 21, 3:35 AM
#11
What causes popular anime to become forgotten? Probably a lack of continued mentions. |
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Feb 21, 4:25 AM
#12
Just because something is popular doesn't necessarily make it any good. I'd say most 'popular' anime is mediocre at best, and the mindless lemmings quickly forget it, to leap off the next hype cliff. The anime highway is littered with wrecks like this for decades now. If anything, the phenomenon has gotten worse in recent years. |
Feb 21, 4:30 AM
#13
Reply to Ron014
Never heard it about it, been watching anime for more than 20 years.
It's pretty simple, Popular has like two tiers, There's popular holy shit good shows trending for the recent and past years and then there's the Masterpiece culture type. So that type is like shows that really came with a bang, they were all over japan (like u cant turn to a direction in tokyo without seeing posters, merch sell, promos of it), they set the standards for other upcoming animes in that genre, and also they had an immediate impact in the western world, like that was your go to see anime for every fan or new anime viewers in the west introduced to japan's culture. that's the difference of being forgotten or not.
I'll give some examples: let's start with the biggest once, has to be one piece, like it's all over world, netflix adaptions, stage plays like i can go on and on, when people think anime, One piece jumps to their head and it's huge huge culture thing in japan, i can't even call it anime there.
Next one i'll go with dragon ball Z, it set the standards for so many anime shows in that era, it was so popular that all western countries channels got it, personally it was my first anime, it's not my most favorite now anymore because i was exposed so many others, but i grew up watching it and without it i doubt i knew what anime is.
Other examples can be Inuyasha, romance and shonen classic, but i think what it does more for the western world is that it shows the Japan's old time, which looks completely different to our history, first encounter with a Shrine's Mikou, how people dressed there, the crazy haircuts, lots of stuff, so it was very educational.
Sakura the card capture perhaps for many kids and mainly girls.
Another one is Ranma, is set the standard for so many Romcoms and was huge all across the world.
(I wonder if Frieren can be a next one)
And this is my wish, hopefully Re:zero it's my fav anime so my comment is bias here, but i think it did set the standard for many Isekais, wasn't it the first one animated? and it was a culture thing after the first season, not sure if it's the same case today in japan tho.
Lastly, not much of an anime, but there's not one person who reads manga and doesn't know Berserk. And you literally have Dark souls/Elden Ring games taking refences from it.
But ya then i can mention a lot of other super popular good shows with many movies and OVAS that WILL BE FORGOTTEN with time, like Haiikyu, My hero academia, Euphonium, Spice and wolf, Psycho pass, i can go on to mention more and more, like Jujutsu Kaisen and Demon Slayer (even tho im not sure where to put it, yes its popular all over the world, but maybe it's too early yet and i can't tell if it'll be forgotten 20-30 years later, most people love it due to insane animations, i like it, but it's not on my top anime list, i'm more of a story person and it's kinda Meh there)
Hope This answers your question, the difference is how impact it has/had all over the world, if it setting the standards for a new era of anime and how it inserted to Japan's current culture.
It's pretty simple, Popular has like two tiers, There's popular holy shit good shows trending for the recent and past years and then there's the Masterpiece culture type. So that type is like shows that really came with a bang, they were all over japan (like u cant turn to a direction in tokyo without seeing posters, merch sell, promos of it), they set the standards for other upcoming animes in that genre, and also they had an immediate impact in the western world, like that was your go to see anime for every fan or new anime viewers in the west introduced to japan's culture. that's the difference of being forgotten or not.
I'll give some examples: let's start with the biggest once, has to be one piece, like it's all over world, netflix adaptions, stage plays like i can go on and on, when people think anime, One piece jumps to their head and it's huge huge culture thing in japan, i can't even call it anime there.
Next one i'll go with dragon ball Z, it set the standards for so many anime shows in that era, it was so popular that all western countries channels got it, personally it was my first anime, it's not my most favorite now anymore because i was exposed so many others, but i grew up watching it and without it i doubt i knew what anime is.
Other examples can be Inuyasha, romance and shonen classic, but i think what it does more for the western world is that it shows the Japan's old time, which looks completely different to our history, first encounter with a Shrine's Mikou, how people dressed there, the crazy haircuts, lots of stuff, so it was very educational.
Sakura the card capture perhaps for many kids and mainly girls.
Another one is Ranma, is set the standard for so many Romcoms and was huge all across the world.
(I wonder if Frieren can be a next one)
And this is my wish, hopefully Re:zero it's my fav anime so my comment is bias here, but i think it did set the standard for many Isekais, wasn't it the first one animated? and it was a culture thing after the first season, not sure if it's the same case today in japan tho.
Lastly, not much of an anime, but there's not one person who reads manga and doesn't know Berserk. And you literally have Dark souls/Elden Ring games taking refences from it.
But ya then i can mention a lot of other super popular good shows with many movies and OVAS that WILL BE FORGOTTEN with time, like Haiikyu, My hero academia, Euphonium, Spice and wolf, Psycho pass, i can go on to mention more and more, like Jujutsu Kaisen and Demon Slayer (even tho im not sure where to put it, yes its popular all over the world, but maybe it's too early yet and i can't tell if it'll be forgotten 20-30 years later, most people love it due to insane animations, i like it, but it's not on my top anime list, i'm more of a story person and it's kinda Meh there)
Hope This answers your question, the difference is how impact it has/had all over the world, if it setting the standards for a new era of anime and how it inserted to Japan's current culture.
@Ron014 Very well said and lots of excellent examples given. |
Feb 21, 4:38 AM
#14
Reply to alshu
"What causes popular anime to become forgotten?"
1. Anime fandom working on hype, instead of actual appreciation.
2. Anime fandom being focused on social experience and social interactions instead of did they actually liked said anime or are they just using it to talk with people.
And it's unclear to my why stuff like Naruto and JoJo have a bigger staying power that lets say Nana (none of those three is a favorite of mine), but the anime society somehow decides and some stuff like Noragami is remembered despite being aggressively boring and masterpieces like Uchouten Kazoku are forgotten.
1. Anime fandom working on hype, instead of actual appreciation.
2. Anime fandom being focused on social experience and social interactions instead of did they actually liked said anime or are they just using it to talk with people.
And it's unclear to my why stuff like Naruto and JoJo have a bigger staying power that lets say Nana (none of those three is a favorite of mine), but the anime society somehow decides and some stuff like Noragami is remembered despite being aggressively boring and masterpieces like Uchouten Kazoku are forgotten.
@alshu I am currently watching Uchouten Kazoku, and while I am liking it a lot, I can see why it might not get the attention it deserves, especially outside Japan. I find it fascinating, but the whole folklore of Yokai seems to not carry over very well to other cultures. |
Feb 21, 4:40 AM
#15
Every anime is forgotten eventually, or at best fall into the category of "classic", meaning that they are remembered and quoted much more often than they are actually watched. You might be better off asking why, at certain points in time, we assume that certain popular things are "here to stay" and will remain popular forever, against all previous experience. |
Feb 21, 4:43 AM
#16
HIRANO Aya is a gifted person whose talents extend beyond voice acting, but she is not stable in terms of physical strength. She would like to combine stage acting and anime voice acting, but her studies abroad and other blanks have made it difficult for her to star in an anime series, which requires a long-term commitment. She is essential to this troupe, and it would be impossible to replace her from the lead actress. Another significant factor is the trend in art style. ITOU Noizi's art style took the world by storm and is now treated as a legend of those days, but not of present times. Since the work is driven by outstanding talents, if the front persons stagnate, the project will not be viable. |
Feb 21, 5:16 AM
#17
I think you need to understand that the fandom and the whole society was totally different back then. You probably watched what people around you watched/recommended, not like today were everything is centralized and there are 100+ "influencers" trying to hype and create content. Some communities would watch it, and many others didnt. People watching anime were way less than today too, so for many their first anime would be the one that their remember thats going to be more recent one, and many people act like there is nothing before they started watching anime (or video games, etc). |
Feb 21, 5:33 AM
#18
Does it matter that it gets forgotten? There soon won't be anyone remembering the human species after NTHE arrives. |
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Feb 21, 5:50 AM
#19
Lack of continuations, other media, and presence on the Internet, and people turning on them and not recommending it to new fans. |
Feb 21, 5:55 AM
#20
Hype culture, oversaturation and the idea that outside of the big 3 old anime are bad |
Feb 21, 6:49 AM
#21
MasterTasukeFeb 21, 7:01 AM
Feb 21, 7:48 AM
#22
Not just anime, every popular media gets forgotten in a few weeks because nowadays the mentality is GET HYPED FOR NEW PRODUCT -> CONSUME PRODUCT -> GET HYPED FOR NEXT PRODUCT |
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Feb 21, 7:57 AM
#23
The passage of time mostly and the overshadowing by new popular shows. |
Feb 21, 8:19 AM
#24
This topic has been rehashed with different words a thousand times. For the 1001st time I'll say that, those anime that are still remembered by many fans after decades of time are the ones that were truly good. |
Feb 21, 9:13 AM
#25
Reply to chaosflame5
In the case of Haruhi Suzumiya, there are way more stuff left in the source material that need to be animated but for some reason KyoAni and other studios decided to not pick them up. Popularity will stay if there were more adaptations from the leftovers of the source material. But sadly this never happened. So this is one of the reason why Haruhi franchise has died. The novels themselves is now on hiatus, only one or two other novels were released few years back. So there aren't enough stuff to keep the franchise going.
As for anime in general, the hype dies very quickly among the typical anime fandom - the ones that are more into mainstream stuff than what's niche. So in a few years, unless some of these fans constantly talking about them, these mainstream anime shows will be forgotten as time passes.
As for anime in general, the hype dies very quickly among the typical anime fandom - the ones that are more into mainstream stuff than what's niche. So in a few years, unless some of these fans constantly talking about them, these mainstream anime shows will be forgotten as time passes.
chaosflame5 said: The novels themselves is now on hiatus They came out with a new one 3 months ago, "The Theater of Haruhi Suzumiya." |
その目だれの目? |
Feb 21, 10:55 AM
#26
Reply to tchitchouan
Bad endings, gradual decline, lack of complimentary media after the manga/anime ends like video games or promotional ads or collabs.
@tchitchouan I heard that originally, Masami Kurumada wanted to do a fourth act on Saint Seiya focusing on Olympian gods like Artemis, Apollo, and Zeus. But that was changed bc of the decline of the manga in the 90s, so he continued in the sequel manga Next Dimension. |
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Feb 21, 11:06 AM
#27
Lucifrost said: I see, at least it's returning. I need to start reading all those novels someday.They came out with a new one 3 months ago, "The Theater of Haruhi Suzumiya". |
Feb 21, 12:26 PM
#28
joemaamah said: I can see why it might not get the attention it deserves, Same ting with Noragami to which I have compared it, which is versed towards japanese folklore and stuff...but for some reason people still remember it and occasionally demand a sequel. |
Feb 22, 12:26 AM
#29
Time passing means new people getting into anime fandoms, older fans getting out of it (or at least lowering their involvement), so 'old' anime (anything who aired more than 10-15 years ago really) quickly get forgotten (or rather it's not even been introduced to newer generations in the first place): I often talked about how shows like Mayo Chiki, Haganai, D-Frag and Witchcraft Works used to be recommended to me on every corner of the internet at the goats of comedy but nowadays most new people don't seem to have ever heard of them (for some reason one of these shows is not even tagged as a comedy on mal, which also doesn't help). I think some older anime are also very much a product of their time (like those looking at or making fun of the otaku/game culture of their time) and are not going to be super interesting to newer generations for that reason ('why I would I watch a show making fun of the tropes of 15 years ago when I don't even know those tropes?' you can't blame them). |
Feb 22, 12:52 AM
#30
thewiru said: Why are none of the comments addressing this 😭😭 Am I crazy??I Got Reincarnated As Diddy and Now I Wanna Go to the Store to Buy a Cupcake |
Feb 22, 2:03 PM
#31
Reply to Ron014
Never heard it about it, been watching anime for more than 20 years.
It's pretty simple, Popular has like two tiers, There's popular holy shit good shows trending for the recent and past years and then there's the Masterpiece culture type. So that type is like shows that really came with a bang, they were all over japan (like u cant turn to a direction in tokyo without seeing posters, merch sell, promos of it), they set the standards for other upcoming animes in that genre, and also they had an immediate impact in the western world, like that was your go to see anime for every fan or new anime viewers in the west introduced to japan's culture. that's the difference of being forgotten or not.
I'll give some examples: let's start with the biggest once, has to be one piece, like it's all over world, netflix adaptions, stage plays like i can go on and on, when people think anime, One piece jumps to their head and it's huge huge culture thing in japan, i can't even call it anime there.
Next one i'll go with dragon ball Z, it set the standards for so many anime shows in that era, it was so popular that all western countries channels got it, personally it was my first anime, it's not my most favorite now anymore because i was exposed so many others, but i grew up watching it and without it i doubt i knew what anime is.
Other examples can be Inuyasha, romance and shonen classic, but i think what it does more for the western world is that it shows the Japan's old time, which looks completely different to our history, first encounter with a Shrine's Mikou, how people dressed there, the crazy haircuts, lots of stuff, so it was very educational.
Sakura the card capture perhaps for many kids and mainly girls.
Another one is Ranma, is set the standard for so many Romcoms and was huge all across the world.
(I wonder if Frieren can be a next one)
And this is my wish, hopefully Re:zero it's my fav anime so my comment is bias here, but i think it did set the standard for many Isekais, wasn't it the first one animated? and it was a culture thing after the first season, not sure if it's the same case today in japan tho.
Lastly, not much of an anime, but there's not one person who reads manga and doesn't know Berserk. And you literally have Dark souls/Elden Ring games taking refences from it.
But ya then i can mention a lot of other super popular good shows with many movies and OVAS that WILL BE FORGOTTEN with time, like Haiikyu, My hero academia, Euphonium, Spice and wolf, Psycho pass, i can go on to mention more and more, like Jujutsu Kaisen and Demon Slayer (even tho im not sure where to put it, yes its popular all over the world, but maybe it's too early yet and i can't tell if it'll be forgotten 20-30 years later, most people love it due to insane animations, i like it, but it's not on my top anime list, i'm more of a story person and it's kinda Meh there)
Hope This answers your question, the difference is how impact it has/had all over the world, if it setting the standards for a new era of anime and how it inserted to Japan's current culture.
It's pretty simple, Popular has like two tiers, There's popular holy shit good shows trending for the recent and past years and then there's the Masterpiece culture type. So that type is like shows that really came with a bang, they were all over japan (like u cant turn to a direction in tokyo without seeing posters, merch sell, promos of it), they set the standards for other upcoming animes in that genre, and also they had an immediate impact in the western world, like that was your go to see anime for every fan or new anime viewers in the west introduced to japan's culture. that's the difference of being forgotten or not.
I'll give some examples: let's start with the biggest once, has to be one piece, like it's all over world, netflix adaptions, stage plays like i can go on and on, when people think anime, One piece jumps to their head and it's huge huge culture thing in japan, i can't even call it anime there.
Next one i'll go with dragon ball Z, it set the standards for so many anime shows in that era, it was so popular that all western countries channels got it, personally it was my first anime, it's not my most favorite now anymore because i was exposed so many others, but i grew up watching it and without it i doubt i knew what anime is.
Other examples can be Inuyasha, romance and shonen classic, but i think what it does more for the western world is that it shows the Japan's old time, which looks completely different to our history, first encounter with a Shrine's Mikou, how people dressed there, the crazy haircuts, lots of stuff, so it was very educational.
Sakura the card capture perhaps for many kids and mainly girls.
Another one is Ranma, is set the standard for so many Romcoms and was huge all across the world.
(I wonder if Frieren can be a next one)
And this is my wish, hopefully Re:zero it's my fav anime so my comment is bias here, but i think it did set the standard for many Isekais, wasn't it the first one animated? and it was a culture thing after the first season, not sure if it's the same case today in japan tho.
Lastly, not much of an anime, but there's not one person who reads manga and doesn't know Berserk. And you literally have Dark souls/Elden Ring games taking refences from it.
But ya then i can mention a lot of other super popular good shows with many movies and OVAS that WILL BE FORGOTTEN with time, like Haiikyu, My hero academia, Euphonium, Spice and wolf, Psycho pass, i can go on to mention more and more, like Jujutsu Kaisen and Demon Slayer (even tho im not sure where to put it, yes its popular all over the world, but maybe it's too early yet and i can't tell if it'll be forgotten 20-30 years later, most people love it due to insane animations, i like it, but it's not on my top anime list, i'm more of a story person and it's kinda Meh there)
Hope This answers your question, the difference is how impact it has/had all over the world, if it setting the standards for a new era of anime and how it inserted to Japan's current culture.
@Ron014 Only problem here, none of your examples have been FORGOTTEN. Those are all titles people STILL love and talk about. Now try something like Blood + maybe. Might be more in line with the theme of the Post. |
Feb 22, 3:48 PM
#32
Besides what's been mentioned in the thread, I would like to also point out it might be partially due to the lack of fan made works. For example, Girls und Panzer is not popular outside of Japan, but it has a die hard fanbase that keeps pumping out artwork and doujins (safe or NSFW) to help offset its niche appeal. Also, I think another factor that lends to falling into obscurity is the amount of competitors a series has in its genre. Girls und Panzer dominates its niche in part because it's so far the only "cute girls + tanks" anime. Whereas a show like The Magnificent Kotobuki has to compete with multiple aerial combat anime that have been released. |
Feb 22, 10:25 PM
#33
Reply to Sheol01
@Ron014 Only problem here, none of your examples have been FORGOTTEN. Those are all titles people STILL love and talk about. Now try something like Blood + maybe. Might be more in line with the theme of the Post.
@Sheol01 the only problem you can't read "WILL BE FORGOTTEN with time" learn English, you got no idea what you're talking about |
Feb 22, 10:35 PM
#34
Reply to MeguSae38
Time passing means new people getting into anime fandoms, older fans getting out of it (or at least lowering their involvement), so 'old' anime (anything who aired more than 10-15 years ago really) quickly get forgotten (or rather it's not even been introduced to newer generations in the first place):
I often talked about how shows like Mayo Chiki, Haganai, D-Frag and Witchcraft Works used to be recommended to me on every corner of the internet at the goats of comedy but nowadays most new people don't seem to have ever heard of them (for some reason one of these shows is not even tagged as a comedy on mal, which also doesn't help).
I think some older anime are also very much a product of their time (like those looking at or making fun of the otaku/game culture of their time) and are not going to be super interesting to newer generations for that reason ('why I would I watch a show making fun of the tropes of 15 years ago when I don't even know those tropes?' you can't blame them).
I often talked about how shows like Mayo Chiki, Haganai, D-Frag and Witchcraft Works used to be recommended to me on every corner of the internet at the goats of comedy but nowadays most new people don't seem to have ever heard of them (for some reason one of these shows is not even tagged as a comedy on mal, which also doesn't help).
I think some older anime are also very much a product of their time (like those looking at or making fun of the otaku/game culture of their time) and are not going to be super interesting to newer generations for that reason ('why I would I watch a show making fun of the tropes of 15 years ago when I don't even know those tropes?' you can't blame them).
@MeguSae38 I rarely like otaku satire because most of those shows are still made for an otaku audience, which means they try to have it both ways and come off as insular and hypocritical in the process. |
Feb 22, 10:40 PM
#35
Reply to DeadBored
thewiru said:
I Got Reincarnated As Diddy and Now I Wanna Go to the Store to Buy a Cupcake
Why are none of the comments addressing this 😭😭 Am I crazy??I Got Reincarnated As Diddy and Now I Wanna Go to the Store to Buy a Cupcake
@DeadBored Do you want the explanation? |
Feb 22, 11:26 PM
#36
Reply to thewiru
@DeadBored
Do you want the explanation?
Do you want the explanation?
@thewiru Is it somehow related to the show? (I haven't seen it btw) |
Feb 22, 11:46 PM
#37
even shit can have the glare of the delightful chocolate, that is what happening now when the media is growing too strong and shit become mainstream. brain-rot contents are mass-produced and instant noodle gets praised like a three-star Michelin dish! |
Feb 22, 11:52 PM
#38
The most notable cause of something being forgotten is the passage of time and that goes for anything and everything. From the people of the the past to every form of media stuff is bound to lose the battle against time. |
Feb 22, 11:53 PM
#39
Reply to DeadBored
@thewiru Is it somehow related to the show? (I haven't seen it btw)
@DeadBored TL;DR: Lately there have been massive community discussions (Mainly on Twitter) about people who got into anime during COVID ("Tourists") due to their massive lack of interest and blatant hostility towards the medium and it's culture. They get specially irked when you beg them to watch anything that isn't one of the mainstream battle shounen. Recently, the following series of events happened: >someone made a post about how pretty Marin Kitagawa is >COVID fans accused that person of being a pedophile >some guys makes a tweet lamenting how COVID fans ruined the community/discourse so much that you can't even have a waifu anymore >that person receives a lot of hostile comments (For some reason most of them seem to come from minors and/or people of african-american origin, and I still have no idea as to why SPECIFICALLY those groups, but the thing in common is using Dragon Ball PFPs. People starting calling those "hood weebs".) >a lot of arguments ensue >one of them was a "hood weeb" insinuating that otaku in general don't take baths >someone goes to question the validity of their authority in the discussion by asking them if they know who Haruhi is >a 15 year old then QRT's the question while saying "Twitter niggas when you dont know some random anime show from the 1980s thats called "i got reincarnated as diddy and now i wanna go to the store to buy a cupcake"" and posting the gif of a person destroying a door >the entire website decides to collectively offend that person in every conceivable way until they changed their picture, handle and name >this also causes people to start to post about Haruhi again |
Feb 23, 7:48 AM
#40
"What causes popular anime to become forgotten?" Honestly, it wasn't that objectively good in the first place. Haruhi was iconic and had a lot of cool/fun things about it, especially for the time. The Haruhi live concert is possibly the greatest moment in anime music history 15 years and I still get chills from 1:45 on, God Knows was also epic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqws3z-eqB4 I believe it's moments, writing, and animation that are the three measures which really determine if a series or movie is "objectively good". That also keeps it around as initially said. How well it's remembered probably also proves how objectively good something is, although there's going to outliers like SAO which wasn't terrible but doesn't seem deserving of the relevance it has. These three qualities encompass other sub-categories like characters and action btw. But Haruhi kinda falls flat in those top three measures when you think of all the other series. Compare to something well-known and much older like Berserk. The big betrayal moment at the end stands out well in most ppls minds. It's still in memes to this day on anime twitter getting thousands of likes. There's anime with bad to average animation/writing with a crazy moment or two that somehow remain "unforgotten" as well. Example: School Days. Both observations about Berserk and School Days prove my hypothesis true so far. |
Shishio-kunFeb 23, 7:52 AM
Feb 23, 8:24 AM
#41
I see what you did there. That kid was mogged on Twitter totally. |
Feb 23, 4:46 PM
#42
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