Why are Characters in Old Anime so much more abusive?

bc u modern zoomer fans are pussies & mentally soft, offended at every little thing... just like western woke progressives everything you touch turns to garbage

@ItachiDeltaForce
Generational bullying is stupid and petty. People have historically said inflammatory statments about "the young'uns bein' too soft and entitled" for literally every other generation directly after the one the person saying it is from. Not all that long ago Gen X people were complaining about Millennials exactly in this way, and before that the boomers said it about Gen X and so on and so forth. Its the same exact argument regurgitated over and over again just because people are too stuck in the past and completely unwilling to even mildly put in the effort to understand the values of the next generation or listen to those who uphold said values.

As time progresses the world changes and people learn to be more empathetic (which is a good thing), which can make past actions look harsher. It is a good thing to look back at behaviors of the past that would be unacceptable today and to be aware of the social context that led to these behaviors being normalized

Some of this is just how things were done at the time, though through the exaggerated lense of fiction. For the example of the harsh mentor, it used to be more socially acceptable for a teacher to psychically discipline a student.

@LSSJ_Gaming

I don't agree with perspectives like this. People have always been empathetic. It's easy to look down on the past with moral superiority without questioning your surrounding views. As society progresses they will shift back and forth... In some ways, you could argue the opposite of our world becoming more empathetic, with the advent of things like social media spreading things like loneliness and bullying.

@ItachiDeltaForce

Idk, i feel like i see more people get upset about the existence of these 'soft and offended' fans than them xD.

Some of this is just how things were done at the time, though through the exaggerated lense of fiction. For the example of the harsh mentor, it used to be more socially acceptable for a teacher to psychically discipline a student.

@LSSJ_Gaming

I don't agree with perspectives like this. People have always been empathetic. It's easy to look down on the past with moral superiority without questioning your surrounding views. As society progresses they will shift back and forth... In some ways, you could argue the opposite of our world becoming more empathetic, with the advent of things like social media spreading things like loneliness and bullying.

@ItachiDeltaForce

Idk, i feel like i see more people get upset about the existence of these 'soft and offended' fans than them xD.

@ItachiDeltaForce
Generational bullying is stupid and petty. People have historically said inflammatory statments about "the young'uns bein' too soft and entitled" for literally every other generation directly after the one the person saying it is from. Not all that long ago Gen X people were complaining about Millennials exactly in this way, and before that the boomers said it about Gen X and so on and so forth. Its the same exact argument regurgitated over and over again just because people are too stuck in the past and completely unwilling to even mildly put in the effort to understand the values of the next generation or listen to those who uphold said values.

I mean sure, the concept of tough love exists. Most parents who have used corporal punishment, are arguing on the basis of "whoever spares the rod hates their child". Still that logic is on the basis it's actually effective, and that often isn't the case (discipline and consequences are still needed though).


I mean what period of time would you make that argument? In at least the West, sure people get cyber bullied, and we have loneliness and the death of public spaces, however, in the 50s racism was the norm in North America. 160+ years ago, they were practicing slavery in the USA. I will at least subscribe to the idea, that while we may always have empathy, due to bad social concepts, and scarcity people were more "cruel" than we are today (again relevant to what region, and period we are talking about).

I mean, I am the first one to go after people that make light of how intelligent, and "moral" people were in the past, however, I would never argue that ethically we were ever as good, as we are now.

@BilboBaggins365 Yes, agreed.



The period of time this thread is about... older anime to now. I think you went a bit too far back there xD.
Obviously there was cruelty and empathy both now and 20 years ago. People are people.




Yes.

Eh there was a lot of problematic issues, in NA and in Japan, in the 70s, or even the 80s. I may have gone back yeah a bit far, though that is why I asked for a specific period, because your statement was very general. At the very least, sure people in the 80s morally speaking, while not exactly like us, are more like us than not, where their morality is understandable to some degree. I won't deny that.

@BilboBaggins365 I am not arguing the past was a better place or without problems, or on its relative morality to now.

I just don't agree with the generalized statement on empathy and gave a specific counterexample of one place I think it's gone the opposite.

Pretty sure you're cherrypicking anime to push this false narrative.

@LSSJ_Gaming btw im the biggest anti-woke gatekeeper as it gets ....u got something to say to me?

@arisien coz all they seem to do is bitch & moan & make threads like this one....its old, cringe & annoying

its all hot air from them...bla bla bla...iv heard it all b4 from tourist wokelings..doubling down on things that get them rejected in the 1st place......... with the victim-hood white savior-complex activist mind-set the very things that ruin entertainment media , it has no place in anime culture, Japan and the east in general see thru this bs

@LSSJ_Gaming

But its true. Back in the olden days when parents would whoop the ever loving shit out of their kids for misbehaving, we didnt have school shootings, did we?

@ItachiDeltaForce "All they do is bitch and moan"
You're the only one bitching and moaning in this thread so far.

It was a different world. Corporal punishment in schools was still ok for the most part in many places, including Canada up until rather recently. Japan has always been a patriarchal society and is more conservative in several ways, also Japan specifically has always had a severe bullying problem, "the nail that sticks out gets hammered" isn't just a saying. It's been a normalized aspect of society for peers to police each other since before ww2.

It depends on the context but it can be funny, one example I can't get with is Aho Girl. Great show but more than half of the jokes are the MC beating up this dumb girl that has a crush on him.

What's deemed acceptable by society changes over time, it's the natural progress of humanity. You can also look back to some of the earliest writings (Greece, Rome, China etc.) and see people complaining that the younger generations don't understand and are doing it wrong. Much like all the "woke agenda" comments. This is all part of the history of human evolution, it's happened before and it will again. Arguing about how our ancestors/descendants suck that is

@Deathko ... stop with the bs gaslighting, classic tactic of the woke left

well guess what?...you lost, you & your ilk will fade into obscurity, woke is cooked no need to get salty at me about it

@ItachiDeltaForce You're the docile puppet of crooks who forcefeed you buzzwords and negative emotions to make a profit out of your perpetual anger. Don't project your inability to form your own opinions onto others.