| Nop, you're not ruining anyone, just Google is greedy |
| I wouldn't mind watching an ad before the video begins in YouTube but I do not want 6 adds in a 12 min video which is in every single video. Which is the reason I'm using adblock and for me it's working perfectly right now. |
| "You only realize the real value of something you discarded when you get the chance to pick it up again." - Rudeus Greyrat |
| Either way it's a bad business move because it makes you not want to watch as many videos so you just leave the site sooner. I think video ads beyond a certain data size and unskippable length online should be criminal. They are effectively stealing your internet connection against your permission of what data you requested. It uses far more data than reasonable and you pay the price with your internet costs. |
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| Im fine with that on channels i support but when im randomly streaming especially on a random channel or watching a long vid... Thats a no no!!! Greed knows no bounds!!! |
" Kindness can sometimes lead you to trouble. "  |
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use fadblock if you want an effective youtube adblocker well its actually an ads skipper and not blocking ads so ye they still load the ads and get their profit https://github.com/0x48piraj/fadblock
| @deg What would be needed is for that to throttle the download speed so the ad doesnt load more than the amount it needs to skip otherwise it still is eating up data. |
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| Yeah this is why we need to abolish Capitalism. |
Mao said: If you have to shit, shit! If you have to fart, fart!  |
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@traed ye its just an ads skipper so it still loads the ads but im still using it since i do not see the ads anymore but google thinks i watch the ads so a win win for both of us
ublock origin has a cat and mouse problem right now with youtube everyday youtube changes their code to bypass real adblockers so its getting annoying for me at least
ublock origin has a cat and mouse problem right now with youtube everyday youtube changes their code to bypass real adblockers so its getting annoying for me at least
| @deg Did you try AdNauseum? It was the ad blocker Google was trying to crack down hard on because it hurts them so much by corrupting data with false clicks and views of ads lol |
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| Advertising is quite frankly pure evil, not only do they waste you time trying to brainwash you into buying shit, but to do so they also employ mass surveillance to target you better. |
| Sounds like a skill issue. I use Adblock Plus and uBlock Origin on Firefox and I have not received any pop-up message about ad blockers on YouTube. Perhaps it makes a difference if you are logged in. I would stop using YouTube if symphonies had to be interrupted by silly commercials in the middle... |
Reply to Meusnier
Sounds like a skill issue. I use Adblock Plus and uBlock Origin on Firefox and I have not received any pop-up message about ad blockers on YouTube. Perhaps it makes a difference if you are logged in.
I would stop using YouTube if symphonies had to be interrupted by silly commercials in the middle...
I would stop using YouTube if symphonies had to be interrupted by silly commercials in the middle...
| @Meusnier I Am logged in with ublock origin, and it rather frequently fails to block the ad detection. But eventually it'll work again, in the meanwhile just opening the video in a private window works. |
JaniSIr said: @Meusnier I Am logged in with ublock origin, and it rather frequently fails to block the ad detection. But eventually it'll work again, in the meanwhile just opening the video in a private window works. Have you encountered this issue when you were not logged in too? |
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JaniSIr said:
@Meusnier I Am logged in with ublock origin, and it rather frequently fails to block the ad detection.
But eventually it'll work again, in the meanwhile just opening the video in a private window works.
@Meusnier I Am logged in with ublock origin, and it rather frequently fails to block the ad detection.
But eventually it'll work again, in the meanwhile just opening the video in a private window works.
Have you encountered this issue when you were not logged in too?
| @Meusnier I am always logged in, save for working around the ad blocker message in private mode. |
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@Meusnier I am always logged in, save for working around the ad blocker message in private mode.
| @JaniSIr Check if you have other adblocks working and disable them, leaving only ublock on. Some browsers and youtube related extensions have a built-in adblock, so youtube might be detecting those. Also, deleting filters cache in ublock options and updating it might help. For other workarounds, you can stream the video through your media player (PotPlayer and VLC have the option, don't know about others. Android version of VLC also has it, so you can do it on mobile too) or download the video and watch offline. |
| I stopped using ad blockers since they started breaking every second site I used. |
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Any who choses not to block ads is an idiot. I even talk through elderly relatives on how to install it and get it working.
They don't deserve any benefit of the doubt with all the malware and scams.
Get u block origin and they block the blocking of the ad block so it works fine for me.
They don't deserve any benefit of the doubt with all the malware and scams.
Get u block origin and they block the blocking of the ad block so it works fine for me.
| @QPR I had the ublock on other devices and it doesn´t work anymore. Anti-ad block walls have long been an issue for all ad blockers, not just ours. While we do believe that content providers should have the right to decide how you interact with their page (or opt not to, if you choose to bring your web traffic elsewhere), we know YouTube’s walls are particularly distressing to many of our users. We also know that part of what makes Adblock Plus valuable to our users is that we block YouTube ads. And while we don’t have a solution to implement at the moment, our teams are working hard to figure out what we can do in light of these changes. We certainly haven’t given up the fight against anti-ad blocking! source: Ablock website Those terms are as of October 2023 and they are slowly being implemented. If your "elderly" relatives are still able to watch Youtube without ads, that might be just a question of time because Google has gotten pretty much more aggressive with their adblocking policy. It has been happening since June, but now if you don´t allow it after three videos, it will stop playing any sort of videos at all. Here is an article about it, here. everything was fine whe it showed just this: but now, it is showing this: and the second one is a real baddie |
Reply to Meusnier
Sounds like a skill issue. I use Adblock Plus and uBlock Origin on Firefox and I have not received any pop-up message about ad blockers on YouTube. Perhaps it makes a difference if you are logged in.
I would stop using YouTube if symphonies had to be interrupted by silly commercials in the middle...
I would stop using YouTube if symphonies had to be interrupted by silly commercials in the middle...
| @Meusnier I don´t know guys, what I am doing wrong. I use various browsers on various devices (Edge on the computer, Firefox on the computer too and Chrome on the tablet) and it warns me everywhere. Do you really not get this warning? because from what I have read once you start getting this one there is no way back. I used to use adblock too. |
effy_ said: @Meusnier I don´t know guys, what I am doing wrong. I use various browsers on various devices (Edge on the computer, Firefox on the computer too and Chrome on the tablet) and it warns me everywhere. Do you really not get this warning? because from what I have read once you start getting this one there is no way back. I used to use adblock too. quo I don't, and in fact, I have learnt about this change when I read your thread. I am never logged in and I never get this warning. Neither Adblock Plus or uBlock Origin is detected on Firefox. You link is broken because Reddit does not allow you to embed images this way. Fixed it. |
| There are a lot of moronic takes here. Stealing your internet connection? You can press that "X" button on your browser tab. Less people are watching YouTube? You mean less people are stealing YouTube's bandwidth. I use adblock because it's good for me. Only entitled Karens project their own needs onto everyone else. MAL is filled with entitled Karens. If I built a product that I'm selling, I would be totally okay if less thieves stole it off the retail shelves and pretended as if they were doing me a favor by doing so. |
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@RobertBobert and how is life on the other side? :D
I mean, I get you though. it happens that I am searching for something and I can´t even open the article just because of the adblock. maybe it´s me, maybe it´s the Internet becoming weirder. for now, I have whitelisted YT but I know it will drive me crazy until I find a good solution.
I mean, I get you though. it happens that I am searching for something and I can´t even open the article just because of the adblock. maybe it´s me, maybe it´s the Internet becoming weirder. for now, I have whitelisted YT but I know it will drive me crazy until I find a good solution.
| @effy_ I suddenly learned that there were actually a lot more advertisements on the Internet than I thought. |
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Reply to katsucats
There are a lot of moronic takes here. Stealing your internet connection? You can press that "X" button on your browser tab. Less people are watching YouTube? You mean less people are stealing YouTube's bandwidth.
I use adblock because it's good for me. Only entitled Karens project their own needs onto everyone else.
MAL is filled with entitled Karens.
If I built a product that I'm selling, I would be totally okay if less thieves stole it off the retail shelves and pretended as if they were doing me a favor by doing so.
I use adblock because it's good for me. Only entitled Karens project their own needs onto everyone else.
MAL is filled with entitled Karens.
If I built a product that I'm selling, I would be totally okay if less thieves stole it off the retail shelves and pretended as if they were doing me a favor by doing so.
| @katsucats When you access a website's content you should expect it to load only what it needs not an unreasonable amount more. When someone intentionally exceeds reasonable expectations of what they will take from you in an exchange it is akin to an act of theft not in a literal sense but in a real financial sense. A transglobal mega corporation like Alphabet / Google / YouTube has all the resources where it is perfectly capable of load balancing and they already get preferential treatment whenever under elimination of net neutrality as well as still profit from ads loaded up even if someone just loads fifty videos at once they always try to account for above average loads. If they lack DDoS protection it is on their negligence since they certainly arent short on finances. There is a difference between breaking even enough to run servers or making a profit for inventive versus just being outright greedy. I said there should be a limit on the ad size and frequency. What is wrong with that? Even the US government regulates ads in several ways, their volume level is one of them and their amount of air time and they regulate what ads can air and when. You provide no countering argument just your usual whispered behind the back insults while making off base interpretations of whatever is said on any given topic. You provide no solution merely a bandage. What happens when ad blockers truely can no longer be functional? Only regulations can actually change anything if comes to that. |
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| Adblock Plus seems to work just fine atm, but probably not for long. |
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@katsucats
When you access a website's content you should expect it to load only what it needs not an unreasonable amount more. When someone intentionally exceeds reasonable expectations of what they will take from you in an exchange it is akin to an act of theft not in a literal sense but in a real financial sense. A transglobal mega corporation like Alphabet / Google / YouTube has all the resources where it is perfectly capable of load balancing and they already get preferential treatment whenever under elimination of net neutrality as well as still profit from ads loaded up even if someone just loads fifty videos at once they always try to account for above average loads. If they lack DDoS protection it is on their negligence since they certainly arent short on finances. There is a difference between breaking even enough to run servers or making a profit for inventive versus just being outright greedy. I said there should be a limit on the ad size and frequency. What is wrong with that? Even the US government regulates ads in several ways, their volume level is one of them and their amount of air time and they regulate what ads can air and when. You provide no countering argument just your usual whispered behind the back insults while making off base interpretations of whatever is said on any given topic. You provide no solution merely a bandage. What happens when ad blockers truely can no longer be functional? Only regulations can actually change anything if comes to that.
When you access a website's content you should expect it to load only what it needs not an unreasonable amount more. When someone intentionally exceeds reasonable expectations of what they will take from you in an exchange it is akin to an act of theft not in a literal sense but in a real financial sense. A transglobal mega corporation like Alphabet / Google / YouTube has all the resources where it is perfectly capable of load balancing and they already get preferential treatment whenever under elimination of net neutrality as well as still profit from ads loaded up even if someone just loads fifty videos at once they always try to account for above average loads. If they lack DDoS protection it is on their negligence since they certainly arent short on finances. There is a difference between breaking even enough to run servers or making a profit for inventive versus just being outright greedy. I said there should be a limit on the ad size and frequency. What is wrong with that? Even the US government regulates ads in several ways, their volume level is one of them and their amount of air time and they regulate what ads can air and when. You provide no countering argument just your usual whispered behind the back insults while making off base interpretations of whatever is said on any given topic. You provide no solution merely a bandage. What happens when ad blockers truely can no longer be functional? Only regulations can actually change anything if comes to that.
traed said: That's your own problem. A website exists as a service. It's a privilege, not a right. No one is forcing you to use it and you don't get to make demands on how you think it should operate, or go accusing something of being theft for not ceding to your unreasonable expectations. The only theft here is you violating the TOS, robbing them of the method they use to fund the service they provide. You have an option to pay a subscription but you don't to that either.When you access a website's content you should expect it to load only what it needs not an unreasonable amount more. Load balancing costs money. What does DDoS even have to do with this? Who are you to dictate what is considered making "too much" profit? LOL at you saying I provide no counter argument when this is just cut and dried fact and you're desperately trying to justify this wild entitlement you have as if there is even something here to argue about. The US government only regulates ad quantity on radio because radio frequencies are public property that are leased out to companies. The US government doesn't own "www.youtube.com". This is net neutrality, not your imaginary universe where the government and individual users dictating how other users should run their own websites somehow constitutes net neutrality. Karens be Karening. |
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@JaniSIr see, as someone who remembers Youtube being ad-free or having one add per three videos, in the beginning of it, I just find this terribly annoying. why do I have to watch a cookie ad for the millionth of time a day???
I hope Odysee picks up or something
I hope Odysee picks up or something
| @effy_ it used to have like a banner pop up ad, that you just had to close.. Now it's two unskippable and very loud video ad, and that's just before the video, it might get interrupted multiple times, even for short ones. |
| I keep using ADBlockers, and no ounce of fuck is/was given. |
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Reply to ArabianLuffy
I keep using ADBlockers, and no ounce of fuck is/was given.
| @ArabianLuffy to be fair, the "blocking the ads" I am talking about has been in action since October 18th and seems to be slowly finding ways on how to ruin the blockers so it might just be a question of time. unless you have already seen this message and found out how to get your way around it, you might just get it later. this is the one that even Adblock has problems getting rid of.  |
| @effy_: the thing is, I have a Premium on YouTube, because I use YouTube on iPhone a lot more than Google Chrome. It’s impossible to block ADs if you use YouTube app. I will test ADBlock, but only on FireFox browser on PC. No login to YouTube account. |
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| switched to uBlock way back after Adblock started promoting "Acceptable ads" uBlock is miles better than any adblocker i've used imo |
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Reply to katsucats
There are a lot of moronic takes here. Stealing your internet connection? You can press that "X" button on your browser tab. Less people are watching YouTube? You mean less people are stealing YouTube's bandwidth.
I use adblock because it's good for me. Only entitled Karens project their own needs onto everyone else.
MAL is filled with entitled Karens.
If I built a product that I'm selling, I would be totally okay if less thieves stole it off the retail shelves and pretended as if they were doing me a favor by doing so.
I use adblock because it's good for me. Only entitled Karens project their own needs onto everyone else.
MAL is filled with entitled Karens.
If I built a product that I'm selling, I would be totally okay if less thieves stole it off the retail shelves and pretended as if they were doing me a favor by doing so.
| @katsucats The really entitled one here are those companies that think they deserve our attention to coerce us into buying garbage, just because they gave a little money to YouTube or whatever other venue they choose to advertise on. |
Reply to katsucats
There are a lot of moronic takes here. Stealing your internet connection? You can press that "X" button on your browser tab. Less people are watching YouTube? You mean less people are stealing YouTube's bandwidth.
I use adblock because it's good for me. Only entitled Karens project their own needs onto everyone else.
MAL is filled with entitled Karens.
If I built a product that I'm selling, I would be totally okay if less thieves stole it off the retail shelves and pretended as if they were doing me a favor by doing so.
I use adblock because it's good for me. Only entitled Karens project their own needs onto everyone else.
MAL is filled with entitled Karens.
If I built a product that I'm selling, I would be totally okay if less thieves stole it off the retail shelves and pretended as if they were doing me a favor by doing so.
| @katsucats I had my share of disagreements with this guy, but he is right. Youtube is a business and bandwidth costs don't come cheap. For comparison, Vimeo requires creators to pay for the bandwidth they consume. A few years ago, you had to spend as much as 900 dollars a year for unlimited video uploads and if you had more than 5tb worth of videos. This applied to the most popular creators that generated a ton of video traffic and consumed the most bandwidth. source: https://www.feedough.com/vimeo-business-model-how-vimeo-works-makes-money/ As of today, Vimeo doesn't tell the cost on their website - it asks you to contact sales for the enterprise pricing plan. They also offer cheaper tiers, but those come with significant restrictions in terms of video uploads. There is a free tier that only allows 3 videos a month .To be able to upload 2 videos a day, you need to shell out $12 usd/month, or $144 usd/year. This is actually a discounted price of $20 usd/month or $240/year. If you want to upload up to 120 videos, the cost jumps to $20 usd/month or $240/year (discounted from $33 usd/month or $396/year). The most expensive, non-enterprise plan lets you upload 500 videos a month (16-17 videos per day), and costs $65 usd/month or $780/year (discounted from $108 usd/month or $1296/year) source: https://vimeo.com/upgrade-plan People here are being entitled. Which isn't surprising - the anime community - and internet community as a whole - is notorious for being entitled. Honestly, people will find a way to bypass adblock blocker. If Youtube really want to control bandwidth costs, they would need to start charging creators, just like Vimeo. I'm not sure the ads on Youtube are even enough to cover the costs of bandwidth to be honest. |
| You can buy lossless digital music from your favorite Japanese artists on https://ototoy.jp/. The songs are all DRM-free and you can re-download your purchased albums as you wish. Show your support to your favorite artist if you can! ps. if you are looking for Japanese albums, you have to search it in Japanese (not romaji). Just copy and paste the name. For those who want to learn Japanese through anime Resources for learning the language |
| Only a small fraction of $$$ comes from yt ads, maybe more after this change but still relatively small. Patreon, YT memberships, streaming donations and sponsorships are where it´s at. I hate this war on adblocks. Very bad trade, the yters don´t get much more anyway and it´s terrible for the consumers. That said, i´m actually paying for YT premium. Mostly because i can´t get an adblock to work through chromecast, though. e: also "allowlisted" lol. |
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| It's just corporate stuff. Subsidiaries are expected to be self sufficient and currently the only reason Youtube makes Alphabet money is because of the user data they're able to sell. Ads and Premium subscriptions cover something like 80% of Youtube's running costs. A single premium user is worth as much as a several hardcore free users or a whole town of average casual users. Ads only cost $5 for a thousand views, most of that goes to the creators, and if people skip the ads then the advertiser pays nothing. This isn't actually a necessary change, since Youtube still does make a lot of money for Alphabet from user data and creators get most of their money from off-platform means like patreon or merch sales anyway (which Youtube has also made their own versions of to keep more of that money on the website itself). Blocking ad block isn't a new thing, though. It's always a cat and mouse game. Ad blockers are even already updating to block Youtube's anti-adblock features. Adblock has arguably become too easy to use, with some phones even coming with it turned on by default, meaning even your grandma who is still getting used to how to send emails is also blocking ads. True adblock will always be available to the people who care enough, but if Youtube making it more difficult means that more normies subsidize the power users then that can be considered a good thing. |
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@QPR I had the ublock on other devices and it doesn´t work anymore.
source: Ablock website
Those terms are as of October 2023 and they are slowly being implemented. If your "elderly" relatives are still able to watch Youtube without ads, that might be just a question of time because Google has gotten pretty much more aggressive with their adblocking policy.
It has been happening since June, but now if you don´t allow it after three videos, it will stop playing any sort of videos at all. Here is an article about it, here.
everything was fine whe it showed just this:
but now, it is showing this:
and the second one is a real baddie
Anti-ad block walls have long been an issue for all ad blockers, not just ours. While we do believe that content providers should have the right to decide how you interact with their page (or opt not to, if you choose to bring your web traffic elsewhere), we know YouTube’s walls are particularly distressing to many of our users.
We also know that part of what makes Adblock Plus valuable to our users is that we block YouTube ads. And while we don’t have a solution to implement at the moment, our teams are working hard to figure out what we can do in light of these changes. We certainly haven’t given up the fight against anti-ad blocking!
We also know that part of what makes Adblock Plus valuable to our users is that we block YouTube ads. And while we don’t have a solution to implement at the moment, our teams are working hard to figure out what we can do in light of these changes. We certainly haven’t given up the fight against anti-ad blocking!
source: Ablock website
Those terms are as of October 2023 and they are slowly being implemented. If your "elderly" relatives are still able to watch Youtube without ads, that might be just a question of time because Google has gotten pretty much more aggressive with their adblocking policy.
It has been happening since June, but now if you don´t allow it after three videos, it will stop playing any sort of videos at all. Here is an article about it, here.
everything was fine whe it showed just this:
but now, it is showing this:
and the second one is a real baddie
| @effy_ Have a look at the lists you subscribe too. One of them obviously works. I still the get cookie popup at 1st which is annoying but not as annoying as ads every 4 mins. |
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@OiantakuYT that´s the thing, they claim, they want to help the creators to get paid but some youtube creators say they get very little paid. not to mention that now since I have allowed the ads on YT, I get 3 ads per 30 min video AND a promo done by the youtuber himself that does it for sponsorship :D.
| @effy_ the reason the creators don't get paid much from ads in the first place is because the vast majority of people watching their video block ads. no ads -> youtube don't get paid -> creators don't get paid. it doesn't matter if your video has 100 trillion views, when only 10 of them had ads enabled. |
| You can buy lossless digital music from your favorite Japanese artists on https://ototoy.jp/. The songs are all DRM-free and you can re-download your purchased albums as you wish. Show your support to your favorite artist if you can! ps. if you are looking for Japanese albums, you have to search it in Japanese (not romaji). Just copy and paste the name. For those who want to learn Japanese through anime Resources for learning the language |
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