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Jun 3, 2023 10:28 AM
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Jesus Christ, the experiments in this show are brutal. I know this anime has been less than serious but this episode was the most brutal one yet, yikes.

Feels like they've been saving this type of episode for awhile.
Jun 3, 2023 12:08 PM
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Back to the first time where both Setsu and Toma were Isekai-ed to save a kingdom as heroes, the both of them were obviously clueless as to what's going on but can only rely on each other to help stop the war. With a promise, Setsu went outside for adventuring while Toma stayed behind to act on the political front. And in the midst of clearing out from within, Toma gets enthralled by a curse, while Setsu by then, will have been together with the nations to call a truce to peace, which rightfully puts Setsu as the Hero that ended the war.

With the war eradicated, the fantasy world as much to offer than their original world, which betrays the promise that Setsu made to Toma. That's how Toma became the yandere that Setsu had to stop his exploits the first time around and sees the evil side of others just like him to save them and give them a fighting chance, to destroy the world that rejected their very being.

With the same followers, Toma is ready for more destruction, because that's his calling. It's inevitable now...
Jun 3, 2023 12:34 PM
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Every coin has two sides. Toma is a villain of the story, but for those lab rats that got saved by him, Toma is a hero for them. Setsu makes a big promise in offering a world peace but what he did is just sweeping the conflict under the rug. The real problem is still there, the victims are forgotten because the majority of people already move on and celebrate the ceasefire.
Jun 3, 2023 12:57 PM
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Yea so Touma is as gay as can be for setsu lmao. Just goes to show that things aren’t black and white. To the world, setsu is a hero and touma the villain, but to those he saved from the horrors of war he’s the hero. Meanwhile setsu didn’t try to help those people at all despite his power.

But really this backstory and show needed more development. It really feels like we’ve been thrown into season 2 of a show and expected to care about these characters as if we’ve been on their journey.
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Jun 3, 2023 1:12 PM
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great episode. would be nice if touma succeed but 100% he wont.
Jun 3, 2023 1:53 PM
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Marinate1016 said:
Yea so Touma is as gay as can be for setsu lmao. Just goes to show that things aren’t black and white. To the world, setsu is a hero and touma the villain, but to those he saved from the horrors of war he’s the hero. Meanwhile setsu didn’t try to help those people at all despite his power.

But really this backstory and show needed more development. It really feels like we’ve been thrown into season 2 of a show and expected to care about these characters as if we’ve been on their journey.
I don't know but the first thing i remembered after this episode was toma is going to fail in Pride Month!!
Jun 3, 2023 2:09 PM
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A very interesting episode that explains a little of what's happened so far.

On the other hand, Toma took 5 years to heal a shoulder injury... (I'm not a nurse or a doctor, so it must be possible xD)

On a pretty Yandere over there (well I mean "a handsome") 🤣
Jun 3, 2023 5:14 PM
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This episode was ok, with it focusing on both Setsu and Toma and when they both got brought to another world for the first time. To be honest, I really didn't care for Toma's reason to go to the "dark side" although Setsu could've shown a bit more compassion towards Toma instead off just waving him away. Anyways, at least there was background on how they both ended up in their current situations and it looks like we're going back to the present time in the next episode.
Jun 3, 2023 5:49 PM
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Toma totally giving off a Zelenskyy vibe. Talk about going mad while peace was almost secured.
To have you, Id give a billion lives A-Chan best girl
Jun 3, 2023 5:57 PM

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it's great to have backstory and all, but couldn't they have done this as flashbacks in between scenes instead of it being an entire episode?!
Jun 3, 2023 7:16 PM

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I expected nothing and I was still disappointed by how dumb that backstory was
Jun 3, 2023 9:14 PM
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Touma and setsu's first arrival on this world was shown and how it lead to the present situation.
Jun 3, 2023 9:49 PM
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interesting backstory. The thing I dont really get was that I thought everyone was fighting toma last time but i guess it was just a 1v1
Jun 4, 2023 12:58 AM
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this show is my god I love it
Jun 4, 2023 3:13 AM

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toumas unwanted not even tragic story
Jun 4, 2023 4:03 AM

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Pretty weak backstory for Touma. So Setsu left Touma alone while he travels around the world to end the war...and he does the exact same thing again the second time with leaving his childhood friend. I'm assuming down the line Touma is gonna try to make her evil like him too? "We were both abandoned by Setsu" type of deal.
Jun 4, 2023 6:03 AM
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So all Setsu had to do is to give Toma some "pico time"......and everything would be ok.......
Jun 4, 2023 7:31 AM
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It must have been really difficult for shounen characters like Touma. Being able to cope only very slowly with what's happening then suddenly one day, the very reason for your existence in the world suddenly ceased and you have nothing else to do, just as you were beginning to make a difference. Then now, you can go home, and the person you admire suddenly has a different objective. For someone fragile like Touma, a lot of external forces can really meddle in. And this fragility really what caused the tragedy that happened for the anime's premise.

It's not necessarily the same in the manga, but somehow the anime provides a more engaging or emotional backstory for Touma by presenting a different story.
Jun 4, 2023 8:40 AM

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So we finally get to see Toma's backstory.

So this is how Setsu was sent back to his old world.
But why didn't Toma go with him, since he had a way to?
Jun 4, 2023 8:41 AM

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So that's their backstory as the first one being called to that world.
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Jun 4, 2023 10:24 AM
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This episode is good and all, but it creates a plot hole for how do Setsu and Levaya recognize Touma's curse magic. It makes no sense
Jun 4, 2023 1:45 PM

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Bad directing and overall quality aside, that was pretty good backstory.

Low-key I wish Toma was female so we'd get a yandere waifu....
Jun 4, 2023 2:38 PM
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this is the only time i was rooting for the villain to win, toma deserved better.
Jun 4, 2023 6:49 PM

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Man, why was Setsu such a jerk there. Kinda makes me wanna cheer for Touma, who’s not bad at heart but corrupt by that stupid jewel.
Jun 5, 2023 2:07 AM
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Here I wanted badass sociopathic yandere villain and got sweet fragile baby charmed by piece of jewelery
It was still ok, but simply not my cup.

I think that it makes it official. Seems like manga is more up my tastes.
Jun 5, 2023 7:56 AM
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FLASHBACK EPISODE

This... was actually really fucking good. Why wasn't this the first episode? Episode 9 should've been the first episode! That flashback story was so fucking badass. Toma is such a fucking badass. I absolutely hated this isekai, and was just watching it because I wanted to see it through to the end but... These last two episodes have been so good. Okay, it's not the hype level from a top-level anime, but it does make me excited for the end. Just... please don't let there be no casualties and everyone makes up, please. You have done that type of thing too often already.
Jun 5, 2023 2:20 PM
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Wow, I can see why Toma started this whole ware. Because Him and Setsu were isekai'd together, Setsu was the only one Toma can rely on, but when Setsu ended the war and became friendly with the demons and beastman, Toma became a total yandere. I mean all the times Setsu traveled to new lands, met new people, and went on exciting adventures (Classic ieskai life), did Toma really expected him to want to go home?! When Toma went crazy, I can't believe Amelle and Kuroinu suffered through some crazy experiments! Whoever that voice was in the necklace must've had some plans for Toma!😟
Jun 6, 2023 7:21 AM
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Setsu is what most people irl are like...
They completely forget old friends after meeting new people! screw setsu
Jun 6, 2023 8:06 AM
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Huh? An actual good episode for once? Neat. I really liked this backstory episode. I can understand Toma’s arc, it makes sense.
Jun 6, 2023 9:53 AM
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Serious question: Does every show this season needs to have a lgbt b.s throw in for good meassure? Asking for a friend, from that tranny propaganda pusher "heavenly delusion" to this one.

Of course one of the prisoners/test subjects rescued by the vilain had to be queer. Of course it had to be one.... Pathetic pandering detected.

I'm lowering my score even more after this blatant attempt of wokeness. 
Me every time I hear the word "reparations": 🤣🤣🤣
Jun 7, 2023 2:45 AM
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Dawizz said:
Serious question: Does every show this season needs to have a lgbt b.s throw in for good meassure? Asking for a friend, from that tranny propaganda pusher "heavenly delusion" to this one.

Of course one of the prisoners/test subjects rescued by the vilain had to be queer. Of course it had to be one.... Pathetic pandering detected.

I'm lowering my score even more after this blatant attempt of wokeness. 

oh, shut it.
you have no idea how hard it is to find some series with genuine queer representation among shounens.

and okay, maybe some authors do it for political reasons
but well - i would like to point out it's japanesse anime and not some show on netflix; there isn't this much pressure for diversity as it is in industry for Europe let's say

it's kind of sad how you start bashing decent show, because god forbid, some villain isn't straight
it doesn't change for you much, but makes many people feel a bit better, because they are recognised - even if this character is showed as misguided and evil
Jun 7, 2023 2:42 PM
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LouveClaviere said:
Dawizz said:
Serious question: Does every show this season needs to have a lgbt b.s throw in for good meassure? Asking for a friend, from that tranny propaganda pusher "heavenly delusion" to this one.

Of course one of the prisoners/test subjects rescued by the vilain had to be queer. Of course it had to be one.... Pathetic pandering detected.

I'm lowering my score even more after this blatant attempt of wokeness. 

oh, shut it.
you have no idea how hard it is to find some series with genuine queer representation among shounens.

and okay, maybe some authors do it for political reasons
but well - i would like to point out it's japanesse anime and not some show on netflix; there isn't this much pressure for diversity as it is in industry for Europe let's say

it's kind of sad how you start bashing decent show, because god forbid, some villain isn't straight
it doesn't change for you much, but makes many people feel a bit better, because they are recognised - even if this character is showed as misguided and evil

No, you shut it and respect your elders, some of us do know what we're talking about. This ain't my first rodeo boyo. I can clearly see pander a mile away, just like I see it every June! I came out long before the gamete that made you was swimming around your dad's sack.
This show is trash, we don't need "representation" we already have our own genres reserved for each of our kind. the LGB that is, the OG founding members that is.

This anime season is clearly pandering, to quote the youtube channel the critical drinker, they are clearly pandering to the "message" it's so obvious that is not funny anymore. FYI if your entire life revolves around "looking for recognition" of your sex life/sexual preferences in every piece of media made around the world 24/7/365 you really need to reevaluate your life. FYI that goes around under another name. Narcissistic behavior.

FYI It is not just "some authors" doing it for "political reasons" They are all looking for that sweet, sweet blackrock & Vanguard money under this terms:  Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI), Corporate Social Responsibility (CSR), and Environmental, Social, and Governance (ESG).
DawizzJun 8, 2023 5:33 PM
Me every time I hear the word "reparations": 🤣🤣🤣
Jun 8, 2023 4:00 PM

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Your usual villain with some screw loose.
Jun 9, 2023 7:34 PM
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I loved this episode, finally we know more about Toma, the part about the experiments was hard to watch... poor them..
I felt really sorry for Toma, Setsu wasn´t so nice to him. It was good to see how Setsu visited first that world.
I can´t wait for the next episodes.
Jun 9, 2023 7:49 PM
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Setsu: "Gonna go walk around in the countryside with these people instead of leading military forces. 'cause acting like an adventurer in Dungeons & Dragons is how you win a war."

Also Setsu: "Oh hello Toma, the only other person who comes from Earth. Haven't seen you for years. Well, no need for us to chat for even five minutes, see ya!"

And Setsu: "Oh, you found a way back to Earth? Magic that I don't know about? Never mind, no need for me to even stop and ask what it is. And I don't care one bit about my parents and other relatives back home. I'm a D&D adventurer!"


Setsu in this episode was written by a 13-year-old.
Jun 9, 2023 7:56 PM
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LouveClaviere said:
Dawizz said:
Serious question: Does every show this season needs to have a lgbt b.s throw in for good meassure? Asking for a friend, from that tranny propaganda pusher "heavenly delusion" to this one.

Of course one of the prisoners/test subjects rescued by the vilain had to be queer. Of course it had to be one.... Pathetic pandering detected.

I'm lowering my score even more after this blatant attempt of wokeness. 

oh, shut it.
you have no idea how hard it is to find some series with genuine queer representation among shounens.

and okay, maybe some authors do it for political reasons
but well - i would like to point out it's japanesse anime and not some show on netflix; there isn't this much pressure for diversity as it is in industry for Europe let's say

it's kind of sad how you start bashing decent show, because god forbid, some villain isn't straight
it doesn't change for you much, but makes many people feel a bit better, because they are recognised - even if this character is showed as misguided and evil
"Queer representation" LOL You even use the propaganda word for homosexual. And have to attack someone pointing out how homosexuals are inserted everywhere.

"maybe some authors do it for political reasons" Hilarious! It's ALL for propaganda, but you are too brainwashed by your socialist teachers and media to know that. You are born into a flood of propaganda surrounding you, and you have learned that you must never find out the real facts about homosexuals, because that is forbidden. After they were brought in on every level in Hollywood as allies against normal society they demanded that their agenda be pushed in every production, so that they could have more little boys growing up to be within their reach. But of course, since girls are always the most affected with the media, we got more girls declaring "I'm gay!", showing the law of unintended consequences. Now, that this was all a strategy by the media, you're too ignorant to know. You just think it's normal. Funny. The vast majority of countries and people on Earth disagree with you, as would the West back in history, though that history is of course Evil in your eyes. Your school has taught you well.
Jun 10, 2023 8:04 AM
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Hegar said:
LouveClaviere said:

oh, shut it.
you have no idea how hard it is to find some series with genuine queer representation among shounens.

and okay, maybe some authors do it for political reasons
but well - i would like to point out it's japanesse anime and not some show on netflix; there isn't this much pressure for diversity as it is in industry for Europe let's say

it's kind of sad how you start bashing decent show, because god forbid, some villain isn't straight
it doesn't change for you much, but makes many people feel a bit better, because they are recognised - even if this character is showed as misguided and evil
"Queer representation" LOL You even use the propaganda word for homosexual. And have to attack someone pointing out how homosexuals are inserted everywhere.

"maybe some authors do it for political reasons" Hilarious! It's ALL for propaganda, but you are too brainwashed by your socialist teachers and media to know that. You are born into a flood of propaganda surrounding you, and you have learned that you must never find out the real facts about homosexuals, because that is forbidden. After they were brought in on every level in Hollywood as allies against normal society they demanded that their agenda be pushed in every production, so that they could have more little boys growing up to be within their reach. But of course, since girls are always the most affected with the media, we got more girls declaring "I'm gay!", showing the law of unintended consequences. Now, that this was all a strategy by the media, you're too ignorant to know. You just think it's normal. Funny. The vast majority of countries and people on Earth disagree with you, as would the West back in history, though that history is of course Evil in your eyes. Your school has taught you well.
Sounds to me you're just mad at homosexuals because you can't get a girlfriend and you rationalized it with the belief that the 'agenda' being 'pushed' is turning girls gay, and therefore depriving you of a gf.

Btw, what 'real fact about homosexuals' is forbidden? I probably missed the memo, I guess...
Jun 11, 2023 9:33 PM

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filler = skipped, dont care about toma
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Jun 17, 2023 11:02 AM

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The 4 kids Touma saved reminded me of Erza's backstory from Fairy tail, similar.
Jun 23, 2023 4:41 PM

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I like Touma, I hope he wins in the end
Jul 2, 2023 6:17 PM
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Toma: You're just like me
Victims: Uh...no.  We were brutally tortured and experimented on.  You were a respected hero general with a troop of guys happily wiling to die for you, but are throwing a whiny emo hissy fit because your one-sided crush won't pay enough attention to you.

This backstory is absolutely terrible.

Also, Toma has apparently been wearing the same outfit for the last 5 years.
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Jul 15, 2023 10:03 AM

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So here is the start of the downfall of this anime? xD

Also, I was "wtfucked" when Setsu noticed/saw Toma after a long time and just timidly smiled and that was all.. UHAuhauhaUHaUHua wtf was that  xD

This episode was the first of this anime I didn´t like - I was casually enjoying this at an easy going level; but this episode was in general very bad. Let´s see if other will be as bad as this one.... 
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Jul 22, 2023 7:32 AM

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time to continue this decent adaptation.
it took a while... finally...
I don't really remember this series having this kind of storyline but portraying differently? how Toma and Setsu's summoning went, looks more easy to absorb and the adaptation went to Toma's perspective. If I remember correctly, it should be darker than this but whatever. It is still interesting when compared to the manga. (Oh, shush, LN readers, this isn't a bait.)

Looking at it more closely, it could be better but it's still a good work nonetheless. I can give more sympathy towards the experimental subjects who are under Toma.

CrazyButNot4UJul 22, 2023 7:47 AM
It's not that I dislike this genre but... to add unnecessary fan services to/in/for heroines
and ultimately destroys her character and personality; their purity tarnished because of it,
is the only thing I hope to not happen to them. For that sole purity is my fan service.
Oct 9, 2023 7:33 AM
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Setsu was pretty much a dick to his friend Toma.
Dec 9, 2023 2:04 PM

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and the last hooded guy is baldy trans? why he got pink things and make up?...
(づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ ちゅっ ちゅっ キス (´。✪ω✪。`)

I hate it when anime/manga that I enjoyed ends, especially when there could be much longer plot and when I love main heroine :P

I wish I had magic glasses that let me see real world in anime colors ;)

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