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May 13, 2010 4:19 PM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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good episode, I like Mystery soup session at the beginning, legos, pocky, and donuts? the master is wise
 
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May 13, 2010 6:06 PM

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EPIC ROCK-PAPER-SCISSORS!

-Oh my god, the title sequence was so funny when he tried to escape from Ozu and Higuchi

-Wow, we really had some screwed up animation today. From the fish head people to the "Everything turns pink around Akashi-san." My favorite was the guy who had the scrub brush and half his body was in darkness and you could only see his smile like the Cheshire cat.

-What I really liked about the episode was all the callbacks to previous episodes like the doll in Jougasaki's room, the snapshot of Higuchi riding Watashi's bike from episode 3, and my favorite, "I wanted to set some fireworks on these couples, but I get the feeling I did that already." :D

-Ozu, you backstabbing troll. I figured he seemed too normal this episode.
 
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May 13, 2010 9:31 PM
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It seem Watashi become a student of the Higuchi,or maybe I should say he just buying a brush for his daily chore....
I am amazed that the fortune teller remember him but he doesn't remember her.I think Watahsi just force to stuck with the fate for the rest of his life.
1000....2000....3000.....4000yen..Well I guess I will be stupid if i can't guess how much she will charge him for next episode.
(sigh) don't really understand the ending....but at least he still blame Ozu again in this episode

After rewatching,I think Watashi's mistake is buying that brush?...but I wonder who gave him the money?Why he think following him can get him "rosy life"?The only phrase that I found which doesn't exist in the last 3 episode is the phrase where he like to speak when he met Ozu.Hahah does that makes any different?Well maybe this is the first encounter ^^...aahh who cares,waiting for next episode!!!
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...I can't even put my finger on it, but something makes this anime one of the highlights of the season for me xP
Also, no 'first contact, worst contact' this episode?
Good luck in the Proxy War, bro xD Ozu is gonna wipe the floor with you, ahaha. (Then again, being with the little kappa for two years must have upped Watashi's prankster rank.)
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May 14, 2010 4:34 AM

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Cenedess said:

Also, no 'first contact, worst contact' this episode?

I know! That's one of my favorite repeats!
 
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May 14, 2010 5:00 AM
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garfield15 said:
Cenedess said:

Also, no 'first contact, worst contact' this episode?

I know! That's one of my favorite repeats!
It makes me feel every episode is the last episode except this episode.....or vice versa
 
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May 14, 2010 6:18 AM
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The Van der Waals force!!! this seems to mean that the brush melts dirt away at a subatomic level, I guess u wouldn't need detergent

are they in Kappabashi looking for the brush? Plastic food is key

the money from the bike race...
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May 14, 2010 10:06 AM

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Cenedess said:

Also, no 'first contact, worst contact' this episode?

Haha, I missed that one too.

Watashi continues to be stubborn, just blaming circumstances, but above all, he lacks passion, even if he puts effort, like he did on the previous episode. He just doesn't know what to do, and even when he does something, he misses to get the point because he can't reconcile with his own mindset.

On the other hand, I still can't see Ozu as an evil presence. He's more of a catalyst, trying to make Watashi discover his own nature through bribery, mischief and treason. His youkai appearance fits him well, then.

I'm still amazed at how clever the execution is.
 
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May 14, 2010 3:18 PM

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it's weird animation style, but i still like it anyway, which is a compliment from me

this episode was an ok one, still repitive, but i liked the last few ones too. and there was no first contact, worst conatact this time :(
 
May 14, 2010 5:07 PM
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Masaaki Yuasa is God.

In every age, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same.
 
May 14, 2010 8:00 PM

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So we now know that Ozu is an Engineering student. That explains his behavior... <g>

But we still don't know what the Protagonist is studying (or, not studying, as seems to be the case).

It is strange, never-the-less, to be entertained by listening to the Protagonist bitch and whine episode after episode.
 
May 15, 2010 4:24 AM

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Just watched episode 04 but I thought it felt weak compared to the previous 3 episodes imo. However, I still enjoy this series and its nice to have a little background information on the secondary characters, namely Higuchi and Jougasaki being friends but turning into rivals over their love for Ryouko-chan (aka Ryouko Hanuki)......well, that was the impression I got but I could be wrong as well. ;) It seems like after the "epic" battle....


Still no real development between the male lead and Akashi-san and idea of moving forward has escaped our protagonist's mind once again instead getting distracted and tangled in other's affairs. ;)
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May 15, 2010 8:46 AM

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So we got another clock rewind... Damn it Watashi just return the darn doll already! >.<
So Higuchi still had the money from winning the race, or he won it again? Who knows. We can not say for certain that all this background information retains itself over each episode.
dbaranyi said:
It is strange, never-the-less, to be entertained by listening to the Protagonist bitch and whine episode after episode.

Yes. Yes it is. ^.^
 
May 15, 2010 2:27 PM
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This anime is simply perfect.
 
May 15, 2010 7:46 PM
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I think its clear that the anime has a circular story, but I also think that the characters too go in a circle. Every character introduced who had some significance is seen in a different light with each episode, but if it is in fact circular, they will end up where they begin, or rather would have always been the same, just showing different sides of them more in one episode and less in others. We saw Ozu going from friend to foe, but this may not be the case necessarily - in ep. 3 we see him looking at Watashi's door with the coat but it isn't shown what his business is, and in this episode the bag with money may be in fact left from Ozu (we haven't seen any other character go in Watashi's apartment ever),just Yuasa isn't showing it so that it can be emphasized on every aspect of their personality, but they're real selves are the one introduced first. And that's why the character with the least development is Watashi, because we see everything from his point of view and he can't see the small changes with himself.

And wile we as viewers want to see Watashi give the doll back to Akashi, I don't think will be enough to end the circle (for Akashi to choose Watashi over Ozu). For these last episodes Watashi doesn't return the doll because he is not sure if he want's to advance with Akashi or seek other girls and lifestyle. And I think first we should see the change where he has completely made his mind that he wants Akashi (and realize that its not Ozu to blame for his failings, but himself) for him to return the doll, and like I said it won't be enough and then will come the surprising ending. At least that's what I think, but I may be looking too hard into things...
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May 15, 2010 9:02 PM

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The only thing I liked in this episode was the song about circles and triangles....

The rest was boring. In episodes 2 and 3, the repetitions seemed clever and mysterious, but at this point they are getting tired. (It's good that the interaction with the fortune teller was abbreviated....) I would like to see a development at some point, but I don't really feel like any of the characters are changing. There is not really any sense of tension building either.... It really does feel like this could go on and on forever. Maybe that's the point, but I hope not.
 
May 16, 2010 3:21 PM

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Who's read the novel ?
 
May 16, 2010 6:00 PM

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JCDRANZER said:
Who's read the novel ?

I have.
Any questions?
Waiting for: God Eater (PSP)

私が、探偵だからよ。
 
May 17, 2010 9:30 AM
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May 17, 2010 9:50 AM

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This is becoming my favorite Masaaki Yuasa anime, it'll surpass Kemonozume and Kaiba.
 
May 17, 2010 1:01 PM

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grklein said:
This is becoming my favorite Masaaki Yuasa anime, it'll surpass Kemonozume and Kaiba.

NOTHING SURPASSES KAIBA :P

But it is up there. (I should really watch Kemonozume sometime)
 
May 18, 2010 1:49 PM

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Another hilarious episode, I've already gotten used to the fast speaking (or reading) so I'm quite enjoying this right now. I wonder what kind of ending will this get...
Ozu still gives me the creeps~~
 
Jun 4, 2010 11:49 AM

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This episode had a completely different feel from the previous 3. Very limited Ozu interaction in this one. No mention of the black thread, nor how no matter how he struggles, he'll always end up the same, comparison to a disgusting creature with the reply of "you say some mean things."

It's a good change of pace, though. Constantly repeating the same format with only changes to the club that is joined could cause it to become stale, so it's good to see a change now and then.
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proxy proxy proxy proxy proxy proxy proxy proxy proxy proxy proxy proxy war, rofl
 
Jun 13, 2010 2:56 AM

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Mmmm Hanuki is such a lovely woman....
 
Jun 24, 2010 12:11 AM
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We're getting closer to him grabbing the opportunity that's dangling in front of him! \o/
 
Jul 2, 2010 9:59 AM
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Loved the awesome triangle x circle song xD
For me the most entertaining episode so far. But not much story development yet ^^

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don't nobody want to pray, till they got something to pray for
now everybody's gonna die, but don't everybody live though
 
Nov 8, 2010 9:11 PM

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average episode.
Even when I was in crowd, I was always alone
 
Dec 14, 2010 1:16 PM

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If the Master's song confuses you, remember that a triangle is the simplest polygon in the Euclidean plane. As you move from triangle > square > pentagon and onward, your shape becomes closer to a circle:


The song loses sense as it progresses ("The world tends to 4 sides, 4 faces, 5 sides, 6 sides, turkey") but the theme of finding completeness rings clear ("Search for the circle...")

If nothing else, his quirky song made me smile :)
 
Jan 11, 2012 10:32 AM

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Watashi became god guy's discpile of some kind, and for the first time he had a bad premonition about joining instead of thinking it's going to be all roses. He could be somehow developing but on the other hand it's more likely just because the club doesn't really offer any opportunities for romance he's looking for even through his delusions. Even Akashi and a new female character are his disciples. The latter is weird and might have some kind of connection to the mystery of castella?

The connection between the god guy and the film club leader became pretty obvious already when it was pointed out he was a failure student in his 8th year, same as film club president. They seem to also have had a love triangle. Maybe it's somehow vaguely similar to that of Ozu, Watashi and Akashi, and maybe they even had the same roles to each other in the past since they were proxies of opposing sides. But after that anticlimatic 'battle' I'm just even more confused about all characters' motivations. And still blaming Ozu for this outcome although from what we saw he didn't play much of a role.

The proxy war with forgotten meaning is also similar to one of the movies from episode 2, but that's probably nothing important.

I wonder how many of those relationshops have been the same as in other timelines but not shown? At least the proxy was was probably going on since it started over 2 years ago.


Random musical number, yey.

Still no idea what's the connection between the opportunity and that doll. I hope it'll be explained simply enough for me to understand eventually.
 
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Proxy-proxy-proxy-proxy-proxy-proxy-proxy-proxy-proxy-proxy-proxy-proxy-proxy-proxy-proxy-proxy.

LOL.
 
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Mystery soup segment was interesting - especially the god guy just grabbing the moon with his chopsticks and adding it nonchalantly to his bowl. It was nice to see more of his character.

Also, random musical number from the Master was good too. Who wouldn't want to be that guy's disciple?
 
Sep 20, 2012 11:08 AM

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This episode was fine but much worse than the previous three. It's starting to get off the point, I think, especially the characters and their roles. 4/5
 
Oct 23, 2012 4:51 PM
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I loved that random music.
 
Nov 28, 2012 5:50 PM

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I lol'd at the random Kyoto Sanga flag.
 
Jul 6, 2013 7:38 AM

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Pretty weird episode, but well lets see what's next!
 
Jul 8, 2013 7:44 PM

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Interesting. I wonder how it will all tie together.
 
Jul 17, 2013 4:13 PM

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interesting stuff, but it was kinda slow compared to the other episodes.

lovely Akashi :)



at least we got some Hanuki screen time :)



poor Watashi, spending 2 years just to decide who wins the jan ken po :P

hope to see a more fast pacing in the next episode :)
 
Sep 13, 2013 9:26 AM

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If this show doesn't end with a happy ending between Watashi & Akashi...
 
Apr 21, 2014 9:11 PM

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the song that master sang was beautiful imo
 
Jul 30, 2014 10:02 PM
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Been thinking ever since the thing with the cake,but I think there's more than one Watashi in the same timeline/universe.Maybe the universes are crossing over?

Like the song this episode.

 
Nov 10, 2014 8:25 AM

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what a fucken episode, who thinks of this shit? rofl.
 
Nov 21, 2014 8:21 AM

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whats the title of the song played by master?
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Dec 31, 2014 2:41 PM

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Nice song.
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Feb 21, 2015 6:18 AM

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Well this anime is crazy. The time warps are getting annoying - I want this explained.
 
Mar 5, 2015 11:23 PM

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Higuchi FTW

Ozu just keeps being Ozu lol
 
Mar 24, 2015 10:16 AM

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Worst episode yet, i couldn't put my finger on it what Watashi did wrong this time. I hope, it doesn't continue like that.
 
May 2, 2015 5:00 AM

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This episode was the weakest one so far, but damn the master can SING :)
 
May 4, 2015 1:41 PM

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Still a good episode but i enjoyed the other 3 more Ozu still being a troll.
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Jun 11, 2015 7:15 AM
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This episode was pretty different from the previous ones.
I hope the romance develops.
 
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