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Aug 21, 2021 6:19 PM

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Too be honest, I dont really like this show all that much, but the duo in this episode of Nicol and Frey was so enjoyable. I loved watching them talk and they had so much synergy together; wish they were the MCs instead.
Aug 21, 2021 7:55 PM
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Beautiful scenery, fields of yellow wisteria & primrose. Frey's personality's super cool & mature. Sophia's book recs lol.
Surprise that a Nicole focused ep is much better than the usual. Tho dont like the conclusion he reached, rather have side cast branch out their relationships. Maybe when all characters show up it becomes shallow tropes & the same harem dynamics that hardly progress. This ep single character focus adds much needed depth.
Aug 21, 2021 9:40 PM

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Finally some Nicol development! I honestly never thought much of him so I really liked this episode. He’s so thoughtful & decided to go ahead with arranged marriage meetings as he’s worried how his still-single status was affecting his family. Thankfully his dad is so understanding!!!!!

You can’t force feelings, it’s sweet seeing how Nicol looks at Catarina so tenderly but Frey is so mature & such a good match for him too......I wonder if they have any other development or this was just a chance encounter, they match so well & the scenes between them were so beautiful♡

Catarina standing up for Ginger was also so nice. She’s so kind, standing up for easily misunderstood people instead of assuming how they are like and idly gossiping about them.







but i’ll probably remember over and over again
you were there and everyone else was there
— the day we all searched for just one thing

Aug 21, 2021 11:35 PM

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A beautiful episode.

The scene where Nicol and Frey were walking in that field of flowers in the sunset was stunning!
Aug 22, 2021 9:17 AM

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Nicole would be a great harem protagonist
Aug 22, 2021 2:36 PM

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That moment with Nicol was great. Nicol is best boy
under”Mebius” is my salvation


Aug 23, 2021 6:24 AM
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This episode would be perfect if they made Frey+Nicol possible in the future.

By that I don't say Nicol has to accept defeat about Catarina yet, but he could make a deal with Frey for them to fake date for a while, so both wouldn't be annoyed by society anymore.

I am really afraid this show will not end with any romantic pair for Catarina (Geordo #1, Nicol #2), but I also get sad to think anybody else will end up miserable if she chooses someone.
Aug 23, 2021 10:14 AM

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NICOL BEST BOIII, I'm glad they made an episode about him.
I love him so much and at the LN/Manga, they didn't have any character development about him.

Frey and Nicol moment was cute but I can't get enough of Catarina and Nicol. Nicol is the only one who could make Catarina feel shy that's why I ship the two of them <3

Ashhk said:
Pretty interesting episode on Nicol, he sure needs more self confidence and "keep loving Katarina" maybe he still has some chances xD


true!! he needs more self confidence haha, I love the love story of his parents though lol, looks like he and sophia will get inspired from them

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Aug 24, 2021 3:54 PM
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I wonder what all the types of flowers were in the episode because it’d be interesting to use flower language/hana kotoba to see their meanings since I think that’s why they were used.

Obviously there are red roses when nicol is talking to the marriage candidates (meaning romance/love in hana kotoba) and there are dandelions when Nicol is finished talking with Frey and intends to continue his love for Katarina (with dandelions meaning love’s oracle and also happiness which is fitting) I didn’t recognise the other flowers though.
Aug 24, 2021 8:28 PM

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OH GOD...

so Sophia and Nicole's family was made up of NTR.... welp... (tho, it sounds like it was a "nobility/ political decision" and not "individual decision" as the entire "stolen bride" was purely determined by "Gramps" and not the other party)
aka if the Father didn't get Prime Minister's spot, Gramps would then go "Fuck you bitch, I am marrying my daughter off to someone with power"

I really hope Nicole won't go down the NTR route...

(Tho, technically Bakarina isn't "tied down", since she still doesn't have "dedicated feelings" for anyone, to her it's still more or less friendship feelings, lol)

___ ___ ___

Also, Frey feels like a more "mature" version of Bakarina... She' would be a really great girl to end with. (tho... I think Frey might be Yuri)

___ ___ ___

And apparently Bakarina loves Tsundere characters, lol
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Aug 26, 2021 1:37 AM

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Fray maybe the most beautifully designed character in the series. I hope she has more screentime in the future.

Fray and Nicol looks great together. Unfortunately, Fray is also gay for Catarina (and maybe with Ginger)
Aug 27, 2021 9:14 PM

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Nicol's inner thoughts with BGM ! :D

Thank you Frey
Aug 30, 2021 2:46 AM

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Nicol and Sophia's dad is a man of culture eh. Nicol finally got serious about Katarina which is fine ig and lol Sophia really wants him to steal Katarina, doesn't she.
Sep 3, 2021 1:43 PM
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tanerl said:
_Alleria_ said:
The art and direction this episode are just so good. I can't overstate how beautiful some scenes are.

I know right!! the backgrounds are beautiful, and the cut compositions are amazing. incredible how they position the characters in the frame, or how they fit the characters to the background. eg waterfall over their faces


Its simple and done so gracefully. Not what I was expecting from the show. It always had this simple beautiful aesthetic but this elevated it.
Sep 5, 2021 6:19 PM

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This was a nice episode. Frey's a sweet girl.
Sep 12, 2021 8:27 AM

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Damn idk how this is gonna end up now with all these strong feelings for catarina... I think they will all kill each other idk man I don't see any peaceful resolution to any of this.

Behold of my awesomeness~
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But my feels.
Sep 12, 2021 8:22 PM

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I looked it up, and I think the person we have to thank for how beautiful this episode was is Shuntaro Tozawa. That dude needs a raise and a promotion.
“Money can't buy dere”
Sep 14, 2021 8:13 PM

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I'm surprised I enjoyed an episode about Nicol so much when I've never been that much of a fan of him.

Frey is great. Only one episode and she's already one of my best girls. It would be great if in case Nicol's NTR plan (lol) doesn't work out, she ends up with him. And I just want to see more of her in general.

Oh, and welcome to the harem, Ginger, I guess lol.
Sep 19, 2021 5:27 AM

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Well there's the new best couple...

I was hoping during their meeting that they'd form a pack together and let eachother do whatever they want though technically married... But then she said she'd pitty a girl who ended up with with him while he still had feelings for someone else, so I guess that's not going to happen.
Sep 19, 2021 10:18 PM
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Nicol, if you don't want to marry Frey, then I will.

Seriously, from the way she understands so clearly what she wants, to how honest and insightful she is, she really deserves all happiness in life. And it would be wonderful to surprise her with the realization that she can have her career and love at the same time.

It doesn't hurt that her character design is exquisite, and her scenes with Nicol in the golden afternoon sun amongst all the flowers were sublime.
Sep 26, 2021 4:56 AM

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Well.. Wonder, if not now.. But if maybe in future Nicol will become closer to the girl he met last.. Frey, or not sure, how her name is in English subs.. Though, maybe both Frey and Nicol don't really need it in the first place.. But they also can get along, it seems.. They have other people they can talk around with, though.. Like Nicol has Sophia at least.. And Frey has at least Ginger.. I'd like to see more of girls introduced, honestly.. If not now, maybe sometimes in the future..
Sep 29, 2021 8:35 AM

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I feel like it's pretty rare to see a "reluctant arranged marriage" sequence for a man vs for a woman. I'm usually not a fan of them especially when the "true love" comes crashing in but this was elegantly done. Probably the best ep of the season which was a bit weaker overall.
Oct 2, 2021 10:28 PM

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My God, Nicol speaking for a whole episode, unheard of.

Nicol wants to move on from Katarina, but everyone knows once you've caught sight of Katarina, there's no escaping her grasp. Just ask Frey and Ginger, who have fallen into her trap too.

I was trying to remember if Frey and Ginger were in the show before this ep. Can't say their development, or love for Katarina means anything to me.

Oct 15, 2021 4:36 PM

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This episode was a pleasant surprise. I didn't think we would get to see an episode about Nicol and I didn't expect it to look so pretty!

Both Frey and Ginger are really enjoyable characters in this episode but I doubt either one will get that much more screen time.
Oct 16, 2021 12:43 PM

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Man I totally think Nicol and Frey could be together, it's just not the right time...
Oct 19, 2021 8:14 PM

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Holy shit the way that scene was setup for Nichol and Frey's meeting, budget was through the roof. Maybe she's his true route once he gets over Catarina? It's the only way to explain why everything was so gorgeous, all those beautiful flowers everywhere and jaw-dropping sunset shots...
Jan 14, 2022 1:27 PM
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Such a pretty epsiode, so far I just watched for the memes and silly jokes, but I think I'm actually slightly invested now, not bad xD
Mar 13, 2022 12:11 AM

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Hmm, my spider senses are tingling. Can it be that Frey is actually interested in Ginger?

Not to say that her explanation of it being her dream to achieve something of her own and her admiration for Larna are false, but her line of never being bored around Ginger kinda mirrors how the main characters came to be interested in Catarina. Also it would add another layer of meaning to her categorical rejection of marriage and her being set to work for the Department of Magic since Ginger apparently is also planning to do so. So maybe she just wants to follow and be together with Ginger? And this trope of being in love with a friend but knowing they are interested in someone else and kindly watching over them is pretty common.

Following that line of thought it would also make sense (even though if would be kinda impish) for her to throw Nicol back into the race for Catarina. Knowing that once Catarina is taken her friend has to finally give up and move on.
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May 8, 2022 8:32 AM

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Yeah I'm one episode left before I drop this boring season, another girl falling for Katarina and for what? Is not like Katarina will deal with this at this rate her parents should also fall in love with her since she's so irresistible.

Don't care about Nichol and his stupid crush.
May 10, 2022 9:39 PM

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Damn, they poured all of this season's budget into the set pieces for this episode.
Nov 30, 2022 1:36 AM

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The character development is done so well for a harem anime, Nicol was always my favorite, and Frey is becoming one of my faves too.

Jan 7, 2023 3:15 AM

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Great episode focusing on Nicol as he didn't had much of the spotlight until now.
Just like many others I would totally ship Frey and Nicol.

Jan 9, 2023 9:15 AM
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Well our boy meet his new potential wife if he doesn't go with caterina, their bond really well in this episode
Feb 8, 2023 3:17 PM
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I love Nicol so much but I know that Catarina will not end up with him so this episode just made me sad.
May 23, 2023 7:04 PM

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That's one man down... Nicol and Frey is perfect for each other.. and we all know nicol and catarina pairing is gonna be hard due to age gap; age alone doesn't matter but their status screams at this age one must do these things for their family's name.
Mar 5, 11:14 PM

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random tsundere student council girl and nicol's marriage things. this season focuses alot on the harem characters and their lifes away from catarina (but still their lifes revolve around her). i wish this continued more like the first season with the focus on catarina. the harem members are just that, harem members. i cant really care about them. except mary and sophie but thats because i happen to like yuri
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This episode was a lot more animated than usual, and had a lot of nice wallpaper-worthy stills. I also noticed a change in the direction style, where there's noticeable thought put into character placement within scenes, dynamic lighting, and a lot of butterflies in the foreground for some reason. I'm assuming the latter was supposed to metaphorically refer to something, but I'm not entirely sure what. There was also one kind of subtle scene toward the end, where Ginger was afraid to step into the light of the reading room. Frey had to pull Ginger into the light, which wasn't particularly emphasized since we only had the pulled back shot of them.

Another thing I liked was how Catarina inadvertently encourages other characters to seek their own independence. She wants to be free, but not necessarily to pursue any personal goals. She just wants to goof off all day, and she wouldn't be able to if she became royalty. For the other girls though, she proves that there are pathways for life aside from being tied down by marriage or being abandoned by their families. That's actually pretty cool.
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