Kadokawa President Reveals Manga Rarely Reviewed by Apple and Google Due to Sexual Content, Feels Censorship May be Needed
| In this episode of People Succumbing to Global Standards, we have the president of Kadokawa, yeah THAT Kadokawa wanting the company to go full Sony, wanting to censor manga to fit Apple and Google's standards. https://nicchiban.nichegamer.com/2021/07/kadokawa-president-reveals-manga-rarely-reviewed-by-apple-and-google-due-to-sexual-content-feels-censorship-may-be-needed/ If Kadokawa even tries this, it's the end of them as they own MANY publications that are filled with loli and even more fanservice. They are a big publisher of Seinen for otaku and shounen for older teenagers (15-19), not say Shounen Jump, which is more for a younger tween and teenage audience. Natsuno, do not bow down to Apple and Google, as it will destroy your career. I've seen enough people and entities get ruined over global standards. Enough is enough. |
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| well at least he is willing to decrease his companys profit, because sooner or later Google and Apple will censor manga too anyway if they find out it has a lot of lolicon and sexual content |
deg said: well at least he is willing to decrease his companys profit, because sooner or later Google and Apple will censor manga too anyway if they find out it has a lot of lolicon and sexual content Then why not take the old approach and don't localize said works instead of censoring it. That goes for Kadokawa too, don't license out works that have to be censored. |
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Hoppy said: deg said: well at least he is willing to decrease his companys profit, because sooner or later Google and Apple will censor manga too anyway if they find out it has a lot of lolicon and sexual content Then why not take the old approach and don't localize said works instead of censoring it. That goes for Kadokawa too, don't license out works that have to be censored. im sure they will most likely do that, only publish sexual manga on Japan while for rest of the world published something else or with censorship thats how the global market or globlziation works, lots of countries are still conservatives and are not too liberal so they hate sexual contents |
| This is what we call globalization. Countries are forced to change their culture due to the fact that other countries have different standards in these things. On the other hand, although I value Japanese liberalism very much, I cannot help but note that a rather large amount of ecchi or action describes something that could have you imprisoned for many years in any Western country. |
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deg said: Hoppy said: Then why not take the old approach and don't localize said works instead of censoring it. That goes for Kadokawa too, don't license out works that have to be censored. im sure they will most likely do that, only publish sexual manga on Japan while for rest of the world published something else or with censorship thats how the global market or globlziation works, lots of countries are still conservatives and are not too liberal so they hate sexual contents Isn't japan literally conservative? And they are the only country that sexualizes females. And it is liberals who cry more about Sexualization of woman and imaginary sexism in comics and games and Manga and rape culture etc. |
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Kayle_x_Morgana said: deg said: im sure they will most likely do that, only publish sexual manga on Japan while for rest of the world published something else or with censorship thats how the global market or globlziation works, lots of countries are still conservatives and are not too liberal so they hate sexual contents Isn't japan literally conservative? And they are the only country that sexualizes females. And it is liberals who cry more about Sexualization of woman and imaginary sexism in comics and games and Manga and rape culture etc. Japan is conservative in a way that they uphold their traditions and culture, they got a culture of incest, lolicon, etc so they just uphold those as for liberals err maybe in the west but not for the rest of the world |
| >openly declare manga needs to be censored >virtue signal to the west with statement >it's actually telling china they're bending the knee so they get ccp $ As much as i want KDKW to suck, fail and die because of Kemono Friends, they stand to make a lot of money selling sanitized trash to a bigger market than their own country and the usa combined. |
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| I can't wait for them to get broke after trying to sell sanitize trash that fits commiefornia standards. |
| My take again is I will believe it when I see it. They just announced sequels for Tanya, Konosuba and Overlord all three which have iffy content plus the isekai quartet series which features all of them. All of those titles are under their brand. Ultimately for better or worse the industry is primarily profit driven and until they stop relying heavily on content that obviously panders to otaku it's hard to take them seriously when they say this. |
| Does anyone know if this would effect paperback manga or is it digital manga only. And does anyone know if its gonna be the text or pictures that will be censored |
| this is likely only to affect google and apple store i still use book walker for my manga. also is this for reviews? what about sales figures? why do they care about reviews on a moble phone ap? |
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| It's not really about standards just an attempt at proffit maximizing by appealing the the small number of companies with a lot of power. |
| What’s the big deal? It’s most likely be a new branch of release that’s censored for much easier accessibility for the west. I doubt if viewer truly want uncensored versions the company will not cut off that line of profit. |
Conceptualhero said: I think this would be a good move. For people that like to read light novels or manga in public, a "normal" cover makes it less of a social stigma. Watch what you wish for. Remember the state of censorship in manga today in the West is so bad now that yuri is being censored and it's not even sexual content and has affected story and plot. |
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Hoppy said: Conceptualhero said: I think this would be a good move. For people that like to read light novels or manga in public, a "normal" cover makes it less of a social stigma. Watch what you wish for. Remember the state of censorship in manga today in the West is so bad now that yuri is being censored and it's not even sexual content and has affected story and plot. Never heard of french manga being uncensored. So much for the land of freedom, where puritan christians dictate what's decent or not. |
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| I think people make to big of deal. If they are only being censored in the west it is no problem IF THAT is what he means. Since we can just look at the original. Like is he going to tell all the manga artists to stop showing skin on the girls etc? |
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| Welp Kadakowa got him to apologize for making those statements. As I said it's kinda hard to envision this as active company policy when you consider some of the titles they promote. Source: https://twitter.com/rayforcegame/status/1420244528338903041 |
| Wow ^ giving part of his salary to? Lmfao. If he is ceo, who got him to apologize and give his money away? |
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| As if Kadokawa's reputation could fall any lower. How about not doing business with Google/Apple entirely. |
deg said: Hoppy said: Then why not take the old approach and don't localize said works instead of censoring it. That goes for Kadokawa too, don't license out works that have to be censored. im sure they will most likely do that, only publish sexual manga on Japan while for rest of the world published something else or with censorship thats how the global market or globlziation works, lots of countries are still conservatives and are not too liberal so they hate sexual contents RobertBobert said: This is what we call globalization. Countries are forced to change their culture due to the fact that other countries have different standards in these things. On the other hand, although I value Japanese liberalism very much, I cannot help but note that a rather large amount of ecchi or action describes something that could have you imprisoned for many years in any Western country. The reason you can have this content in anime and manga is because Japan is conservative. Japan is the most conservative country in the developed world. The people who are pushing for censorship are Western woke progressives who hate femininity and beauty and want to push for a gender neutral world. |
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MyJudgementIsBad said: Kayle_x_Morgana said: And they are the only country that sexualizes females. lmao good one   Ryuk9428 said: The reason you can have this content in anime and manga is because Japan is conservative. Japan is the most conservative country in the developed world. The people who are pushing for censorship are Western woke progressives who hate femininity and beauty and want to push for a gender neutral world. You probably would have gotten publicly beaten in any country if you were caught watching loli stuff any time before 1990. Prior to 1990, any "loli stuff" would've been actual photographs/videos. The reason loli stuff is acceptable is because its not real. Real pornography of pre-pubescent children, however, is not acceptable in any culture past or present. However, if we disregard "loli stuff" and instead talk about age gap relationships, then conservative cultures are much more accepting of age gaps. This is because conservative cultures view teenagers as pretty much being adults whereas liberal/progressive cultures view teenagers as pretty much children. A 22 year old trying to marry a 16 year old in the 1950s would not be seen as unacceptable behavior, however, today they would be. In Japan, a 22 year old in a sincere romantic relationship with a 16 year old would still not be seen as unacceptable behavior. The same is true of countries like Italy or Brazil. |
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Kayle_x_Morgana said: I think people make to big of deal. If they are only being censored in the west it is no problem IF THAT is what he means. Since we can just look at the original. Like is he going to tell all the manga artists to stop showing skin on the girls etc? But English publishing rights would be in the west so they can make copyright strikes against any scanlations so unless you know moon runes you're out of luck. BilboBaggins365 said: Welp Kadakowa got him to apologize for making those statements. As I said it's kinda hard to envision this as active company policy when you consider some of the titles they promote. Source: https://twitter.com/rayforcegame/status/1420244528338903041 I want to see his apology in video form. |
MyJudgementIsBad said: What does hosting have to do with anything? Or porn? And did you forget about Japanese AV?Kayle_x_Morgana said: And they are the only country that sexualizes females. lmao good one Ryuk9428 said: The reason you can have this content in anime and manga is because Japan is conservative. Japan is the most conservative country in the developed world. The people who are pushing for censorship are Western woke progressives who hate femininity and beauty and want to push for a gender neutral world. You probably would have gotten publicly beaten in any country if you were caught watching loli stuff any time before 1990. Go look at games and cartoons of america compared to Japanese ones. |
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MyJudgementIsBad said: Ryuk9428 said: Prior to 1990, any "loli stuff" would've been actual photographs/videos. Lolis go at least as far back as the 1960s or 1970s Wikipedia said: Manga (comics) emerged as mass culture in Japan after World War II due to its low cost and relatively low barrier to creative participation.[27] Japanese animation (anime) began widespread production in the 1960s, after Osamu Tezuka's television series Astro Boy (1963–1966). Manga and anime were attractive to young and amateur creators, and they saw expansions in diversity and creativity in the 1970s;[28] there was a marked preference for young and young-looking characters,[29] and little resistance to their depiction in sexual or violent scenes, or to showing such images to children and adults.[28] Sharon Kinsella attributes this to a weaker "compartmentalization" of pornography in post-war Japan, as compared to America or Britain.[30] Patrick W. Galbraith notes the influence of Tezuka's work, which was inspired by Walt Disney's but featured themes such as sex, violence, and moral ambiguity.[28] The shōjo (young girl) was a dominant image in the mass media of Japan by the 1970s. Eiji Ōtsuka interpreted the shōjo as "representing consumptive pleasure suspended from productive functions"; other critics describe an "illusion of beauty" and a "distinct gender" that signifies an "idealized Eros".[31] Nude photographs of shōjo, conceived as fine art, gained popularity in Japan in the late 1960s: a photo collection entitled Nymphet: The Myth of the 12-Year-Old was published in 1969, and in 1972 and 1973 there was an "Alice boom" themed around Alice in Wonderland, which included nude photos. In the early 1980s, magazines with photos and essays on the appeal of young girls proliferated.[32] This boom in adult images faded in the late 1980s, due to backlash and because men "preferred two-dimensional images of shōjo".[33] The school-aged girl in a school uniform is an erotic symbol in Japan.[34] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolicon#Background The reason loli stuff is acceptable is because its not real. Real pornography of pre-pubescent children, however, is not acceptable in any culture past or present. Ryuk9428 said: However, if we disregard "loli stuff" and instead talk about age gap relationships, then conservative cultures are much more accepting of age gaps. This is because conservative cultures view teenagers as pretty much being adults whereas liberal/progressive cultures view teenagers as pretty much children. A 22 year old trying to marry a 16 year old in the 1950s would not be seen as unacceptable behavior, however, today they would be. Sure, but you would've gotten a lot of flack if you married, say, a 10 year-old Ryuk9428 said: In Japan, a 22 year old in a sincere romantic relationship with a 16 year old would still not be seen as unacceptable behavior. The same is true of countries like Italy or Brazil. Well there are still people who engage in that kind of behavior, at least in the US, but it's usually frowned upon to some degree. The guys who do that tend to be pretty shady too.  I’m not sure what your point is supposed to be on marrying a ten year old. Yes you would’ve gotten a lot of flack but that wasn’t my point to begin with. Loli stuff apparently goes all the way back to the 60s. And you’re not gonna try and claim that 1960s Japan was liberal now are you? |
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MyJudgementIsBad said: Kayle_x_Morgana said: What does hosting have to do with anything? Or porn? That America and other countries sexualize women too And did you forget about Japanese AV? Doesn't disprove my point, as I never said Japan doesn't sexual women Go look at games and cartoons of america compared to Japanese ones. There's plenty of games in America that sexualize women, although I will admit that there doesn't seem to be many cartoons that do. Here's some examples of games: Ryuk9428 said: I’m not sure what your point is supposed to be on marrying a ten year old. Yes you would’ve gotten a lot of flack but that wasn’t my point to begin with. That sexualization of prepubescent girls (the kinds of girls depicted in lolicon material) was socially unacceptable. Loli stuff apparently goes all the way back to the 60s. And you’re not gonna try and claim that 1960s Japan was liberal now are you? Yeah and you had gay bars back in the 60s too. That doesn't mean it was socially acceptable. Even today, lolicon material is pretty controversial in Japan. Porn literally had nothing to do with that. Stop Lol Those suppose to be examples? They nerfed womb raider sexiness over the years. Huniepop is like one guy lol how can you ever think to add that as an example and house party is like 1 or a few guys indie company. I have no idea how the gta is suppose to even be am example with its theme of the game. Also ancient game. You really gonna keep going dude? There is a ton of examples of girls being made uglier on purpose and them covering them up. Tlou2 being a big one. Literally made the "girl" into looking like a man. The gears of war "girl" is hideous. Female game characters are always fully clothed. In the new mw, they based a model off a really person who was really hot. And they made her uglier in game. And blizzard games are perfect examples. The main characters have their tits made smaller over every expansion and have more clothes. They made a race of fat people in game to appease the "plus size" community. The whole Playstation censorship thing started in the west. In sony California. people complain all the time about "Sexualization of woman" which is the "fixed" crowd. do I need to go on? Please stop. I'll leave you with this classic.  |
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| @MyJudgementIsBad just here to point out that most mages male or female never wear armor due to fantasy trope of armor restricting magic. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ArmorAndMagicDontMix see D&D. |
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MyJudgementIsBad said: Kayle_x_Morgana said: What does hosting have to do with anything? Or porn? That America and other countries sexualize women too And did you forget about Japanese AV? Doesn't disprove my point, as I never said Japan doesn't sexual women Go look at games and cartoons of america compared to Japanese ones. There's plenty of games in America that sexualize women, although I will admit that there doesn't seem to be many cartoons that do. Here's some examples of games: Ryuk9428 said: I’m not sure what your point is supposed to be on marrying a ten year old. Yes you would’ve gotten a lot of flack but that wasn’t my point to begin with. That sexualization of prepubescent girls (the kinds of girls depicted in lolicon material) was socially unacceptable. Loli stuff apparently goes all the way back to the 60s. And you’re not gonna try and claim that 1960s Japan was liberal now are you? Yeah and you had gay bars back in the 60s too. That doesn't mean it was socially acceptable. Even today, lolicon material is pretty controversial in Japan. If you think that marrying a 10 year old girl is the same thing as a cartoon drawing then I don't know what to say to you. But at least you're aware that your judgment is bad so maybe you shouldn't be making it. |
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| https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2021-07-28/kadokawa-president-apologizes-for-pro-censorship-remarks/.175620 Also 20% pay cut for 3 months and that's if Natsuno even stays as president that long, he's stepped on politicians toes as well for both this and his trash talk of the olympics. |
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| You ever watched or read the manga Shimoneta? Sad to say I feel like the series predicted the future and now now living in it, but unlike anime/managa it is more depressing and horrifying. Anything these disgusting people are doing to things that we like and etc. is sacrilegious. In other words cancel culture sucks! I wish that Ayame Kajou a.k.a. Blue Snow and her group S.O.X. were real because we need people like them to stand up and speak out against these faceless Marxist PC (SJWs and Wokes) mobs and their cancel culture ideology. It is the reason why we don't get nice things ever. Also I consider Ayame Kajou the symbol of anti-Woke, anti-SJW, and anti-Cancal Culture. "What's the point of dirty jokes anyway if they aren't 'wrong'? They're appealing because they are wrong. They excite us because we have to be secretive. Because they're devilish, they shine. Because they're twisted, they entice us. That is why I vowed to become the 'devil' to crush this boring world where the concept of dirty jokes does not exist!" – Kajou Ayame |
| Pretty stupid move on his part. I will say, the fact that this is what got outrage merchants on YouTube and Twitter riled up and not the fact that Kadokawa has been pushing for more and more anime to be made (resulting in lower pay and more overwork) is kinda irritating. I guess people care more about the content than the people making it. |
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Ryuk9428 said: deg said: im sure they will most likely do that, only publish sexual manga on Japan while for rest of the world published something else or with censorship thats how the global market or globlziation works, lots of countries are still conservatives and are not too liberal so they hate sexual contents RobertBobert said: This is what we call globalization. Countries are forced to change their culture due to the fact that other countries have different standards in these things. On the other hand, although I value Japanese liberalism very much, I cannot help but note that a rather large amount of ecchi or action describes something that could have you imprisoned for many years in any Western country. The reason you can have this content in anime and manga is because Japan is conservative. Japan is the most conservative country in the developed world. The people who are pushing for censorship are Western woke progressives who hate femininity and beauty and want to push for a gender neutral world. Because of the American white man's burden and aggressive moralism, you began to think that to defend creative freedom is to be conservative. |
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Ryuk9428 said: The reason you can have this content in anime and manga is because Japan is conservative. Japan is the most conservative country in the developed world. The people who are pushing for censorship are Western woke progressives who hate femininity and beauty and want to push for a gender neutral world. I find it really funny how you basically admitted multiple times in this thread that conservatives want to lower the age of consent, so they could fuck children. Really not surprising, considering that conservatives are the most outspoken child marriage supporters in the US lmao |
TheGEORGIO said: lmfao. Pronouns on profile. Nothing else need to be said. Are you a he/him, pretending or biologically?Ryuk9428 said: The reason you can have this content in anime and manga is because Japan is conservative. Japan is the most conservative country in the developed world. The people who are pushing for censorship are Western woke progressives who hate femininity and beauty and want to push for a gender neutral world. I find it really funny how you basically admitted multiple times in this thread that conservatives want to lower the age of consent, so they could fuck children. Really not surprising, considering that conservatives are the most outspoken child marriage supporters in the US lmao |
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Kayle_x_Morgana said: lmfao. Pronouns on profile. Nothing else need to be said. Are you a he/him, pretending or biologically? I am assigned male at birth and I consider myself male. Not sure why you feel so insecure about a person having pronouns in their bio, that you immediately jump to transphobia. I just hope you'll find happiness soon, you sound like you're going through a lot of shit |
MyJudgementIsBad said: I'll leave you with this classic. lmao it took me like a minute to notice the difference between the two versions. You know what they should have done is cover her cleavage with more armor rather than some flimsy cloth, because that would make her armor actually useful. Hold up! While what you are saying is true to some extent since this can barely be considered armor at all, the picture on the right would make more sense, historically speaking. There should always be some cloth between the plate armor and the skin. Otherwise, it would cause incredible pain and irritation to the skin if worn for long periods. The picture on the left might be sexier, but it makes me cringe if I think about it from a more realistic perspective. Not that Blizzard had any of this in mind of course. Those changes were made to make the game more appropriate for children and the Chinese audience since there censorship is much stricter. |
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149597871 said: MyJudgementIsBad said: lmao it took me like a minute to notice the difference between the two versions. You know what they should have done is cover her cleavage with more armor rather than some flimsy cloth, because that would make her armor actually useful. Hold up! While what you are saying is true to some extent since this can barely be considered armor at all, the picture on the right would make more sense, historically speaking. There should always be some cloth between the plate armor and the skin. Otherwise, it would cause incredible pain and irritation to the skin if worn for long periods. The picture on the left might be sexier, but it makes me cringe if I think about it from a more realistic perspective. Not that Blizzard had any of this in mind of course. Those changes were made to make the game more appropriate for children and the Chinese audience since there censorship is much stricter. Chinese? These have nothing to do with Chinese. I forgot to mention the worst one. Evelynn from LOL was censored. A year after release.(drawn by a WOMAN btw) Tencent owned riot games BEFORE that happened. Only the splash on client and online is censored. Loading screen and in game 3d model are not. League and wow are their own different game in China as well btw. League has a different client and splash from other countries. |
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Kayle_x_Morgana said: 149597871 said: Hold up! While what you are saying is true to some extent since this can barely be considered armor at all, the picture on the right would make more sense, historically speaking. There should always be some cloth between the plate armor and the skin. Otherwise, it would cause incredible pain and irritation to the skin if worn for long periods. The picture on the left might be sexier, but it makes me cringe if I think about it from a more realistic perspective. Not that Blizzard had any of this in mind of course. Those changes were made to make the game more appropriate for children and the Chinese audience since there censorship is much stricter. Chinese? These have nothing to do with Chinese. This change in particular is probably not influenced by Chinese censorship, but as far as I remember, it was a part of a whole set of changes, including these: There is virtually no other reason for Blizzard to make these. In China, things such as blood, dead bodies, or ghouls can get your game banned, and Blizzard would not want to lose one of their largest markets. https://www.scmp.com/abacus/culture/article/3029301/china-doesnt-want-dead-bodies-or-green-blood-games You are right, though. Making a separate game for Chinese players is a possible solution. In fact, they have already done it with Diablo 3 (last time I checked, it was free to play and pay to win in China). Not sure about WoW since I stopped following this game like a decade ago. |
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TheGEORGIO said: Ryuk9428 said: The reason you can have this content in anime and manga is because Japan is conservative. Japan is the most conservative country in the developed world. The people who are pushing for censorship are Western woke progressives who hate femininity and beauty and want to push for a gender neutral world. I find it really funny how you basically admitted multiple times in this thread that conservatives want to lower the age of consent, so they could fuck children. Really not surprising, considering that conservatives are the most outspoken child marriage supporters in the US lmao Not children... Teenagers are not children, they are young adults. And yes, I see no issue with them having romantic relationships, getting married, and having families. |
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MyJudgementIsBad said: Ryuk9428 said: Not children... Teenagers are not children, they are young adults. And yes, I see no issue with them having romantic relationships, getting married, and having families. Should they finish high school first? In the past, a lot of people didn't. In the 1950s, over 1/3 girls were married by the time they finished high school. Men were typically only two years older. It comes down to two ingredients. One you need a virtuous, high trust culture where bad behavior is the exception, not the norm. Secondly, you need a culture that values romance and long term planning over materialism and short term thinking which leads to our modern day society that emphasizes hookup culture over relationships. In the 1950s, you had all of these. Unfortunately, today you have none of them and people who think that way are the exception now, not the norm. I'm 23 years old and more suitable for marriage then a lot of 35 year old men are and all it took was tweaking my mindset. Most people nowadays think the key to a successful marriage/relationship is "trying out lots of people." They think the more they "explore their options" the more likely they'll find the person they want. The reason this doesn't work is because it creates a mindset of constantly searching for someone better then you have. Rather then wishing for somebody better, people should ask God to help them appreciate their partner more and think about her/his positive qualities and less about their flaws. But a lot of this comes down to creating a more virtuous society. If we live in a society where people aren't cheating on one another, not manipulating one another, thinking of marriage as a life long commitment to their romantic partner and not looking at divorce as if its a glorified breakup, where monogamy is treated as sacred and violating it is viewed with moral disgust, where people are thinking about what they can provide their romantic partner too and not just thinking about what their romantic partner can give them. If you have all that, you will have stronger, deeper romantic relationships that can work at a young age. Teenagers are very much capable of adult maturity, but when society treats them like children, they obviously aren't going to display it. Quite frankly, a lot of people in their 20s and even their 30s now are more immature and act more like children then your typical teenager in the 1950s did. A lot of it comes down to excessive glorification of childhood. Childhood is not a magical time where you're super happy because you are free from responsibilities. Quite frankly, childhood is full of restrictions and most of your peers are brats/bullies/assholes. Its true that you don't have to work as much and don't have as many responsibilities but there's a reason why kids and teenagers are often in a hurry to mature faster and its because childhood kind of sucks. |
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Perhaps you should've listened more. Boomer wisdom has helped me a lot in life. |
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| Lmfao. The retards who comment here who haven't seen he backtracked and apologized. Same people who support this shit. |
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MyJudgementIsBad said: Some boomer wisdom is good but it seems that you're taking it a little too far. It's like you watched a couple of sitcoms from the 1950s and thought they were documentaries or something. Not everything was perfect in the 1950s but it definitely was a much more functional society and it definitely was more virtuous on average. There will always be exceptions but at least people back then were trying. The problem with today is that most people just follow whatever impulses they have and don't have any idea anymore of what works and what doesn't. |
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149597871 said: Waa waa China bad waaaaaThis change in particular is probably not influenced by Chinese censorship, but as far as I remember, it was a part of a whole set of changes, including these: There is virtually no other reason for Blizzard to make these. In China, things such as blood, dead bodies, or ghouls can get your game banned, and Blizzard would not want to lose one of their largest markets. https://www.scmp.com/abacus/culture/article/3029301/china-doesnt-want-dead-bodies-or-green-blood-games You are right, though. Making a separate game for Chinese players is a possible solution. In fact, they have already done it with Diablo 3 (last time I checked, it was free to play and pay to win in China). Not sure about WoW since I stopped following this game like a decade ago. I thought you only focus on "human rights violations"? Don't tell me that this is "muh CCP violation against muh freedom of speech?" Smh. |
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Desolated said: 149597871 said: Waa waa China bad waaaaaThis change in particular is probably not influenced by Chinese censorship, but as far as I remember, it was a part of a whole set of changes, including these: There is virtually no other reason for Blizzard to make these. In China, things such as blood, dead bodies, or ghouls can get your game banned, and Blizzard would not want to lose one of their largest markets. https://www.scmp.com/abacus/culture/article/3029301/china-doesnt-want-dead-bodies-or-green-blood-games You are right, though. Making a separate game for Chinese players is a possible solution. In fact, they have already done it with Diablo 3 (last time I checked, it was free to play and pay to win in China). Not sure about WoW since I stopped following this game like a decade ago. I thought you only focus on "human rights violations"? Don't tell me that this is "muh CCP violation against muh freedom of speech?" Smh. You cannot be serious. I have not even mentioned the CCP or freedom of speech, just the reason behind a western company's decision. China's peculiar censorship (blood/bones/etc.) is easy to spot because most Western countries are often okay with these things being shown, even to younger audiences. It is, however, a corporate rather than a government decision in this case. Blizzard is not a Chinese company, so it is not the CCP that is censoring them. They are willingly censoring themselves according to the CCP standards in order to sell their products in China. I do not know what your mission here is. Pretending that China does not have video game censorship? Well, good luck with that; they are rather open about it. And yes, I would not make a thread about that because I am not invested in the topic. Does not mean I cannot point out the objective reality in a forum reply. |
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