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Jul 19, 2021 2:33 AM
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https://www.rt.com/usa/529548-sosusa-plea-freedom-social-media/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=RSS

The hashtag #SOSUSA became one of Twitter’s top political trends this weekend, as thousands of Americans posted calling for freedom in the United States and protesting poverty, police brutality, and a lack of free healthcare.
Many of the posts were in response to videos of a Los Angeles Police officer shooting a protester in the face at close range with a rubber bullet and attacking other protesters with clubs.

Several tweets from self-described American communists called on foreign leaders, including Cuban President Miguel Díaz-Canel and Chinese President Xi Jinping, to condemn US police brutality or even “liberate” the country.

“The police violence towards protestors in the United States highlights the dire need for intervention and regime change,” one user declared.

Other posts focused on poverty in the US, the country’s lack of free healthcare during Covid-19, and homelessness.

“Dear Xi Jinping, Miguel Diaz-Canel, Kim Jong Un, and the Groups of Friends in Defense of the UN Charter. The U.S. is a failed state. Citizens are shot in the streets and denied healthcare if poor while the government destroys nations abroad,” socialist writer Danny Haiphong tweeted. “Please intervene!”

Left Flank Veterans, a group of anti-war and anti-capitalist US military veterans, also called on the “international community” to “respond to this authoritarian state,” adding, “The American people yearn for freedom!”

Some of the pleas made it abroad, with South Korean journalist Joshua Cho responding, “To the people of the US suffering under the rule of the authoritarian regime: We hear you. We see you.”

“Know that you have the support of millions across the world who are watching you endure your suffering with great optimism. Freedom is an undying struggle,” he continued.

The social media trend started as a response to the #CubaSOS hashtag, which was used by American politicians and Cuban exiles to highlight pro-US protests and demand US intervention against the Cuban government.

On Saturday, Cuba’s own director general for US affairs questioned on Twitter whether “humanitarian intervention” in the state of Florida is “in order” after it was revealed that Florida accounts for 20% of new Covid-19 cases in the US.

HA HA HA

More proof that US is actually an authoritarian state to its own people, and FAR MORE OPPRESSIVE to the people of the foreign countries.
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Jul 19, 2021 3:34 AM
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MyJudgementIsBad said:
Oh yeah sometimes I forget how much people outside the US hate this country.

Not all of us!
Some of us aren't ungrateful cunts that forgot who saved us from both the Nazis and the Soviets.
And without the US we wouldn't have modern music, neither would we have anime for that matter.

And at least USA doesn't threatens to nuke other countries like some countries we know of...
https://twitter.com/jenniferatntd/status/1414971285160005634?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1414971285160005634%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.news.com.au%2Ftechnology%2Finnovation%2Fmilitary%2Fchina-threatens-to-nuke-japan-if-country-intervenes-in-taiwan-conflict%2Fnews-story%2Fd9af14dc6b90628082e79ab4c77629e1
Jul 19, 2021 3:42 AM
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Nobita-X said:
MyJudgementIsBad said:
Oh yeah sometimes I forget how much people outside the US hate this country.

Not all of us!
Some of us aren't ungrateful cunts that forgot who saved us from both the Nazis and the Soviets.
And without the US we wouldn't have modern music, neither would we have anime for that matter.

And at least USA doesn't threatens to nuke other countries like some countries we know of...
https://twitter.com/jenniferatntd/status/1414971285160005634?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1414971285160005634%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.news.com.au%2Ftechnology%2Finnovation%2Fmilitary%2Fchina-threatens-to-nuke-japan-if-country-intervenes-in-taiwan-conflict%2Fnews-story%2Fd9af14dc6b90628082e79ab4c77629e1
Because they have already dropped it. And no, it's not just in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Castle

Also no, the US play VERY LITTLE contribution against the Nazi. It was mostly the struggle of the people in the USSR.
Jul 19, 2021 3:50 AM
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I completely agree there needs to be a regime change in the US from multinational corporate globalist control.





MyJudgementIsBad said:

All 9 of them? lmao


To be fair to them. There was more at one point. Then everything changed when the unmarkied vehicles of the Bourgeoisie attacked, the minivans.






SoverignJul 19, 2021 4:17 AM
Jul 19, 2021 4:59 AM
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"Dear Kim Jong-un,

please save us from our fascist US police state!"

ROFL, I hope these are shills. I refuse to believe that someone can be that delusional. Although nothing coming from the white left should be surprising anymore.
Jul 19, 2021 7:17 AM
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>American communists

as they say communism is not yet technologically ready aka Fully Automated Luxury Communism is not yet ready
Jul 19, 2021 8:31 AM
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149597871 said:
"Dear Kim Jong-un,

please save us from our fascist US police state!"

ROFL, I hope these are shills. I refuse to believe that someone can be that delusional. Although nothing coming from the white left should be surprising anymore.
No, that just means that more people eyes are being open that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is actually Democratic, and that their own country the United States of America, isn't.
Jul 19, 2021 9:05 AM
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Desolated said:
149597871 said:
"Dear Kim Jong-un,

please save us from our fascist US police state!"

ROFL, I hope these are shills. I refuse to believe that someone can be that delusional. Although nothing coming from the white left should be surprising anymore.
No, that just means that more people eyes are being open that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is actually Democratic, and that their own country the United States of America, isn't.


I would normally laugh if you were a troll or a shill, but I know for a fact that you are not, so I guess it is just sad at this point. At least there is hope for the people on Twitter.

Do you even consider the fact that you are whining about western governments on a western platform with zero repercussions while doing the same thing in China and North Korea will not only get you silenced but possibly Epstein-ed as well? So democratic!

But congratulations, you managed to turn CE into a clownfest. Not even left-wingers would support you in this lunacy.
Jul 19, 2021 9:09 AM
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While the U.S politics are very unsatisfactory I hardly believe it's authoritarian... If there is a mechanism for change on which exists it's not authoritarian.
Fate_Saber88Jul 19, 2021 9:18 AM
''Enemies' gifts are no gifts and do no good.''
Jul 19, 2021 9:43 AM

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149597871 said:
Desolated said:
No, that just means that more people eyes are being open that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is actually Democratic, and that their own country the United States of America, isn't.


I would normally laugh if you were a troll or a shill, but I know for a fact that you are not, so I guess it is just sad at this point. At least there is hope for the people on Twitter.

Do you even consider the fact that you are whining about western governments on a western platform with zero repercussions while doing the same thing in China and North Korea will not only get you silenced but possibly Epstein-ed as well? So democratic!

But congratulations, you managed to turn CE into a clownfest. Not even left-wingers would support you in this lunacy.

Funny because youtube have actually recommended me a video about the DPRK. No, no people have been Epstein'd just because they disagree with the government there. It's just made up bullshit by the South Korean conspiracy theorists.



Hazel Smith - Crimes Against Humanity? Unpacking the North Korean Human Rights Debate
http://criticalasianstudies.org/issues/vol46/no1/crimes-against-humanity.html
https://www.academia.edu/6296645/Crimes_against_humanity_Unpacking_the_North_Korean_Human_Rights_Debate
Why everything you think you know about North Korea is wrong
https://sputniknews.com/analysis/201803021062166494-north-korea-loretta-napoleoni/
North Korea is more rational than you think: an interview with Bruce Cumings
https://mronline.org/2018/02/12/north-korea-is-more-rational-than-you-think-an-interview-with-bruce-cumings/
Why Westerners keep returning to North Korea (article mentions that Westerner can access the internet!)
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-12-09/why-westerners-keep-returning-to-north-korea/9231908
Defectors think most North Koreans approve of Kim Jong-Un
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2013/08/30/217186480/defectors-think-most-north-koreans-approve-of-kim-jong-un
South Korea good, North Korea bad? Not a very useful outlook
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/jul/19/korean-conflict-time-nuanced-view
Rethinking the North Korean “collapse narrative”: the most demonized country worldwide
https://www.globalresearch.ca/rethinking-the-north-korean-collapse-narrative-the-most-demonized-country-worldwide/5410636
North Korea, The UN, and war propaganda
https://journal-neo.org/2014/11/30/north-korea-the-un-and-war-propaganda-2/
US image of North Korea does not conform with reality - RT America
https://www.facebook.com/RTAmerica/videos/10154387760731366/
Senior CIA official: Kim Jong-Un is “very rational”
https://sputniknews.com/military/201710051057970924-cia-north-korea-rational/
How and why the western media gets North Korea’s economy wrong
https://gowans.wordpress.com/2014/12/30/how-and-why-the-western-news-media-get-north-koreas-economy-wrong/
UN report on North Korea could be about the United States or South Korea
https://gowans.wordpress.com/2014/02/18/un-report-on-north-korea-could-be-about-the-united-states-or-south-korea/
North Korea is not an existential threat - but many people benefit by saying it is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_z_pG7x8T0
3 big lies about North Korea
http://www.answercoalition.org/3_big_lies_about_north_korea
South Korea “humbly accepts” there is no proof border park cash funded North’s weapons
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missiles/south-korea-humbly-accepts-there-is-no-proof-border-park-cash-funded-norths-weapons-idUSKBN1EM064
If the BBC reported on the royal family like it did on North Korea
https://gowans.wordpress.com/2015/10/21/if-the-bbc-reported-on-the-royal-family-like-it-did-on-north-korea/
Serbian Coach reveals how mainstream media ‘kills’ NK athletes
https://sputniknews.com/analysis/201709161057447560-north-korea-mainstream-media-bias/
Western DPRK Propaganda: The worst, occasionally hilarious, and often racist, lies
https://anti-imperialism.org/2014/08/14/western-dprk-propaganda-the-worst-occasionally-hilarious-and-often-racist-lies/
Crazy Anti-North Korean propaganda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQkgP6z8XW4
Songbullshit - The Evidence that Every Accusation against the DPRK in Robert Collins' and the Committee for Human Rights in North Korea's “Marked for Life: Songbun – North Korea's Social Classification System” is False
https://www.rhizzone.net/articles/songbullshit/
North Korean Propaganda: A Cavalcade of Comedy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49SO4vn4SNI
The propaganda war against North Korea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f22QGIWXGw
The Haircut - A North Korean adventure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BO83Ig-E8E
Interview with makers of The Haircut
https://www.patreon.com/posts/interview-with-14579589
A lot of what you know about North Korea is racist nonsense
https://medium.com/defiant/a-lot-of-what-you-know-about-north-korea-is-racist-nonsense-a625256b51cc
Family declines autopsy for US student released by North Korea
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-northkorea-detainee-idUSKBN19B25Z
Amnesty International botches blame for North Korea’s crumbling healthcare
https://gowans.wordpress.com/2010/07/20/amnesty-international-botches-blame-for-north-korea%E2%80%99s-crumbling-healthcare/
Dispelling myths about North Korea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1241&v=HNf3wM0feb8
Why is North Korea so crazy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS9Zti5oKrI&feature=youtu.be
TYT dumbasses on the DPRK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yUtU-xKPms
WHO blasts Amnesty for N. Korea health report - CBS news
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/who-blasts-amnesty-for-n-korea-health-report/
Why is North Korea so crazy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS9Zti5oKrI&feature=youtu.be
“Forbidden photos taken inside Kim Kong-Un’s secretive state” - commentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sn2IrI-rfiE
“27 smuggled pictures North Korea doesn’t want you to see” - commentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SD9MllQ0Gpw
Excerpt from “The Propaganda Game”
https://www.facebook.com/DankDPRKMemes/videos/417962668575523/
US imperialist ‘human rights’ campaigns - who are they fooling?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0p6EH5TEOU
Human rights: DPRK vs USA
http://www.cpgb-ml.org/index.php?secName=proletarian&subName=display&art=1070
South Korea and the art of collaboration: Raw war propaganda against the DPRK
https://www.globalresearch.ca/south-korea-and-the-art-of-collaboration-raw-war-propaganda-against-the-dprk/5512043
What if North Korea is not crazy? - CNN
https://www.facebook.com/cnn/videos/10157029124596509/
Otto Warmbier’s body showed no signs of torture - coroner
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-41423729
Warmbier family decline autopsy for US student released by North Korea
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-northkorea-detainee/family-declines-autopsy-for-u-s-student-released-by-north-korea-idUSKBN19B25Z
Myths and Misconceptions about North Korea | DEBUNKED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhaHiht50AA
The North Korean purge that didn’t happen
https://blogs.wsj.com/korearealtime/2014/03/07/the-north-korean-purge-that-didnt-happen/?mod=WSJBlog&fref=gc
5 lies by Steve Shives
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_mjOfYxwzM
DPRK Never Removed Marxism From The Constitution
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfm_K6eil6Y
Half of North Koreans Have Guns and Artillery
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXpSap6FhR4
‘Show us the evidence’: N. Korea invites US to prove Pyongyang’s WannaCry connection
https://www.rt.com/usa/414241-north-korean-wannacry-attack/
A look at life in North Korea
http://avax.news/fact/A_Look_at_Life_in_North_Korea_03-10-2017.html
In North Korea: First eye-witness report by Anna Louise-Strong (1949)
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/strong-anna-louise/1949/in-north-korea/
My trip to North Korea: 13 misconceptions corrected
https://www.liberationnews.org/my-trip-to-north-korea-13-misconceptions-corrected/
Eyewitness North Korea: An American’s journey to the DPRK before the travel ban
http://www.hamptoninstitution.org/eyewitness-north-korea.html#.WbWO17KGOUn
An American tourist in North Korea: Exploring the DPRK and running the Pyongyang Marathon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkN42srizJo
What we saw in North Korea goes against everything western media wants us to believe - American Herald Tribune
https://ahtribune.com/world/asia-pacific/1883-north-korea-washington.html
Adelaide student studying in Pyongyang
https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/37230864/adelaide-student-studying-in-pyongyang-north-korea/
Serbian tourists visit DPRK
https://sputniknews.com/asia/201709121057330168-serbia-tourists-visit/
Surfing in North Korea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO4M1U_2bmk
Iranian Muslims in NK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLw1v-xQA7I
The Greek who lived in North Korea
http://greece.greekreporter.com/2017/10/14/exclusive-the-greek-who-lived-in-north-korea-tells-her-story/
Playlist of short clips taken in DPRK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUoQioU65Mk&list=PLqtiZC-4QZC1gws0TTZSW8SPVSlmW2Oos&index=1
Tourist who took camera inside North Korea shocked at seemingly ordinary lives of citizens
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2638213/Tourist-took-camera-inside-North-Korea-expected-really-really-sad-people-shocked-seemingly-ordinary-lives-citizens.html
Gay travellers in DPRK
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/30/business/how-to-plan-a-safe-trip-for-gay-and-transgender-travelers.html
North Korea in the eyes of Turkey’s Socialists
https://medium.com/@bcloud__/north-korea-in-the-eyes-of-turkey-s-socialist-s-c673510e64db
Visit to the DPRK by the Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist)
https://marxistleninist.wordpress.com/2008/11/30/cpn-maoist-on-juche-in-dprk/
Marcel Cartier: a trip to North Korea
http://dekusada.blogspot.hk/2014/04/by-marcel-cartier-i-had-unique.html
Jul 19, 2021 9:48 AM

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Interesting take. The article took bad actions and framed it as the epitome of a failed state even though what is known about failed states or systems isn't seen. Granted the negatives can still be true, I doubt it would qualify the USA as a failed state or (directly) authoritarian as some of those other countries mentioned earlier in the thread.

This isn't the first nor last time its citizens wrote to some governing-body about issues in the US, and really no one will do anything internationally unless something is blatant and "big". Somewhat funny they're labeled communist as well. Time cares not for a joke's age..
SilverstormJul 19, 2021 9:54 AM
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Desolated said:
149597871 said:


I would normally laugh if you were a troll or a shill, but I know for a fact that you are not, so I guess it is just sad at this point. At least there is hope for the people on Twitter.

Do you even consider the fact that you are whining about western governments on a western platform with zero repercussions while doing the same thing in China and North Korea will not only get you silenced but possibly Epstein-ed as well? So democratic!

But congratulations, you managed to turn CE into a clownfest. Not even left-wingers would support you in this lunacy.

Funny because youtube have actually recommended me a video about the DPRK. No, no people have been Epstein'd just because they disagree with the government there. It's just made up bullshit by the South Korean conspiracy theorists.



Hazel Smith - Crimes Against Humanity? Unpacking the North Korean Human Rights Debate
http://criticalasianstudies.org/issues/vol46/no1/crimes-against-humanity.html
https://www.academia.edu/6296645/Crimes_against_humanity_Unpacking_the_North_Korean_Human_Rights_Debate
Why everything you think you know about North Korea is wrong
https://sputniknews.com/analysis/201803021062166494-north-korea-loretta-napoleoni/
North Korea is more rational than you think: an interview with Bruce Cumings
https://mronline.org/2018/02/12/north-korea-is-more-rational-than-you-think-an-interview-with-bruce-cumings/
Why Westerners keep returning to North Korea (article mentions that Westerner can access the internet!)
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-12-09/why-westerners-keep-returning-to-north-korea/9231908
Defectors think most North Koreans approve of Kim Jong-Un
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2013/08/30/217186480/defectors-think-most-north-koreans-approve-of-kim-jong-un
South Korea good, North Korea bad? Not a very useful outlook
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/jul/19/korean-conflict-time-nuanced-view
Rethinking the North Korean “collapse narrative”: the most demonized country worldwide
https://www.globalresearch.ca/rethinking-the-north-korean-collapse-narrative-the-most-demonized-country-worldwide/5410636
North Korea, The UN, and war propaganda
https://journal-neo.org/2014/11/30/north-korea-the-un-and-war-propaganda-2/
US image of North Korea does not conform with reality - RT America
https://www.facebook.com/RTAmerica/videos/10154387760731366/
Senior CIA official: Kim Jong-Un is “very rational”
https://sputniknews.com/military/201710051057970924-cia-north-korea-rational/
How and why the western media gets North Korea’s economy wrong
https://gowans.wordpress.com/2014/12/30/how-and-why-the-western-news-media-get-north-koreas-economy-wrong/
UN report on North Korea could be about the United States or South Korea
https://gowans.wordpress.com/2014/02/18/un-report-on-north-korea-could-be-about-the-united-states-or-south-korea/
North Korea is not an existential threat - but many people benefit by saying it is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_z_pG7x8T0
3 big lies about North Korea
http://www.answercoalition.org/3_big_lies_about_north_korea
South Korea “humbly accepts” there is no proof border park cash funded North’s weapons
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missiles/south-korea-humbly-accepts-there-is-no-proof-border-park-cash-funded-norths-weapons-idUSKBN1EM064
If the BBC reported on the royal family like it did on North Korea
https://gowans.wordpress.com/2015/10/21/if-the-bbc-reported-on-the-royal-family-like-it-did-on-north-korea/
Serbian Coach reveals how mainstream media ‘kills’ NK athletes
https://sputniknews.com/analysis/201709161057447560-north-korea-mainstream-media-bias/
Western DPRK Propaganda: The worst, occasionally hilarious, and often racist, lies
https://anti-imperialism.org/2014/08/14/western-dprk-propaganda-the-worst-occasionally-hilarious-and-often-racist-lies/
Crazy Anti-North Korean propaganda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQkgP6z8XW4
Songbullshit - The Evidence that Every Accusation against the DPRK in Robert Collins' and the Committee for Human Rights in North Korea's “Marked for Life: Songbun – North Korea's Social Classification System” is False
https://www.rhizzone.net/articles/songbullshit/
North Korean Propaganda: A Cavalcade of Comedy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49SO4vn4SNI
The propaganda war against North Korea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f22QGIWXGw
The Haircut - A North Korean adventure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BO83Ig-E8E
Interview with makers of The Haircut
https://www.patreon.com/posts/interview-with-14579589
A lot of what you know about North Korea is racist nonsense
https://medium.com/defiant/a-lot-of-what-you-know-about-north-korea-is-racist-nonsense-a625256b51cc
Family declines autopsy for US student released by North Korea
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-northkorea-detainee-idUSKBN19B25Z
Amnesty International botches blame for North Korea’s crumbling healthcare
https://gowans.wordpress.com/2010/07/20/amnesty-international-botches-blame-for-north-korea%E2%80%99s-crumbling-healthcare/
Dispelling myths about North Korea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1241&v=HNf3wM0feb8
Why is North Korea so crazy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS9Zti5oKrI&feature=youtu.be
TYT dumbasses on the DPRK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yUtU-xKPms
WHO blasts Amnesty for N. Korea health report - CBS news
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/who-blasts-amnesty-for-n-korea-health-report/
Why is North Korea so crazy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS9Zti5oKrI&feature=youtu.be
“Forbidden photos taken inside Kim Kong-Un’s secretive state” - commentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sn2IrI-rfiE
“27 smuggled pictures North Korea doesn’t want you to see” - commentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SD9MllQ0Gpw
Excerpt from “The Propaganda Game”
https://www.facebook.com/DankDPRKMemes/videos/417962668575523/
US imperialist ‘human rights’ campaigns - who are they fooling?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0p6EH5TEOU
Human rights: DPRK vs USA
http://www.cpgb-ml.org/index.php?secName=proletarian&subName=display&art=1070
South Korea and the art of collaboration: Raw war propaganda against the DPRK
https://www.globalresearch.ca/south-korea-and-the-art-of-collaboration-raw-war-propaganda-against-the-dprk/5512043
What if North Korea is not crazy? - CNN
https://www.facebook.com/cnn/videos/10157029124596509/
Otto Warmbier’s body showed no signs of torture - coroner
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-41423729
Warmbier family decline autopsy for US student released by North Korea
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-northkorea-detainee/family-declines-autopsy-for-u-s-student-released-by-north-korea-idUSKBN19B25Z
Myths and Misconceptions about North Korea | DEBUNKED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhaHiht50AA
The North Korean purge that didn’t happen
https://blogs.wsj.com/korearealtime/2014/03/07/the-north-korean-purge-that-didnt-happen/?mod=WSJBlog&fref=gc
5 lies by Steve Shives
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_mjOfYxwzM
DPRK Never Removed Marxism From The Constitution
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfm_K6eil6Y
Half of North Koreans Have Guns and Artillery
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXpSap6FhR4
‘Show us the evidence’: N. Korea invites US to prove Pyongyang’s WannaCry connection
https://www.rt.com/usa/414241-north-korean-wannacry-attack/
A look at life in North Korea
http://avax.news/fact/A_Look_at_Life_in_North_Korea_03-10-2017.html
In North Korea: First eye-witness report by Anna Louise-Strong (1949)
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/strong-anna-louise/1949/in-north-korea/
My trip to North Korea: 13 misconceptions corrected
https://www.liberationnews.org/my-trip-to-north-korea-13-misconceptions-corrected/
Eyewitness North Korea: An American’s journey to the DPRK before the travel ban
http://www.hamptoninstitution.org/eyewitness-north-korea.html#.WbWO17KGOUn
An American tourist in North Korea: Exploring the DPRK and running the Pyongyang Marathon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkN42srizJo
What we saw in North Korea goes against everything western media wants us to believe - American Herald Tribune
https://ahtribune.com/world/asia-pacific/1883-north-korea-washington.html
Adelaide student studying in Pyongyang
https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/37230864/adelaide-student-studying-in-pyongyang-north-korea/
Serbian tourists visit DPRK
https://sputniknews.com/asia/201709121057330168-serbia-tourists-visit/
Surfing in North Korea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO4M1U_2bmk
Iranian Muslims in NK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLw1v-xQA7I
The Greek who lived in North Korea
http://greece.greekreporter.com/2017/10/14/exclusive-the-greek-who-lived-in-north-korea-tells-her-story/
Playlist of short clips taken in DPRK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUoQioU65Mk&list=PLqtiZC-4QZC1gws0TTZSW8SPVSlmW2Oos&index=1
Tourist who took camera inside North Korea shocked at seemingly ordinary lives of citizens
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2638213/Tourist-took-camera-inside-North-Korea-expected-really-really-sad-people-shocked-seemingly-ordinary-lives-citizens.html
Gay travellers in DPRK
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/30/business/how-to-plan-a-safe-trip-for-gay-and-transgender-travelers.html
North Korea in the eyes of Turkey’s Socialists
https://medium.com/@bcloud__/north-korea-in-the-eyes-of-turkey-s-socialist-s-c673510e64db
Visit to the DPRK by the Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist)
https://marxistleninist.wordpress.com/2008/11/30/cpn-maoist-on-juche-in-dprk/
Marcel Cartier: a trip to North Korea
http://dekusada.blogspot.hk/2014/04/by-marcel-cartier-i-had-unique.html


"How to win an online argument in 2021 for dummies:

Step 1: Throw copious amounts of dubious sources at your opponent who has neither time nor interest to bother debunking each and every one of them. If they do, go to the second page of your Google search and repeat the process.

Step 2: Pretend that you have won once they stop replying."
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Funny because youtube have actually recommended me a video about the DPRK. No, no people have been Epstein'd just because they disagree with the government there. It's just made up bullshit by the South Korean conspiracy theorists.



Hazel Smith - Crimes Against Humanity? Unpacking the North Korean Human Rights Debate
http://criticalasianstudies.org/issues/vol46/no1/crimes-against-humanity.html
https://www.academia.edu/6296645/Crimes_against_humanity_Unpacking_the_North_Korean_Human_Rights_Debate
Why everything you think you know about North Korea is wrong
https://sputniknews.com/analysis/201803021062166494-north-korea-loretta-napoleoni/
North Korea is more rational than you think: an interview with Bruce Cumings
https://mronline.org/2018/02/12/north-korea-is-more-rational-than-you-think-an-interview-with-bruce-cumings/
Why Westerners keep returning to North Korea (article mentions that Westerner can access the internet!)
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-12-09/why-westerners-keep-returning-to-north-korea/9231908
Defectors think most North Koreans approve of Kim Jong-Un
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2013/08/30/217186480/defectors-think-most-north-koreans-approve-of-kim-jong-un
South Korea good, North Korea bad? Not a very useful outlook
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/jul/19/korean-conflict-time-nuanced-view
Rethinking the North Korean “collapse narrative”: the most demonized country worldwide
https://www.globalresearch.ca/rethinking-the-north-korean-collapse-narrative-the-most-demonized-country-worldwide/5410636
North Korea, The UN, and war propaganda
https://journal-neo.org/2014/11/30/north-korea-the-un-and-war-propaganda-2/
US image of North Korea does not conform with reality - RT America
https://www.facebook.com/RTAmerica/videos/10154387760731366/
Senior CIA official: Kim Jong-Un is “very rational”
https://sputniknews.com/military/201710051057970924-cia-north-korea-rational/
How and why the western media gets North Korea’s economy wrong
https://gowans.wordpress.com/2014/12/30/how-and-why-the-western-news-media-get-north-koreas-economy-wrong/
UN report on North Korea could be about the United States or South Korea
https://gowans.wordpress.com/2014/02/18/un-report-on-north-korea-could-be-about-the-united-states-or-south-korea/
North Korea is not an existential threat - but many people benefit by saying it is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_z_pG7x8T0
3 big lies about North Korea
http://www.answercoalition.org/3_big_lies_about_north_korea
South Korea “humbly accepts” there is no proof border park cash funded North’s weapons
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missiles/south-korea-humbly-accepts-there-is-no-proof-border-park-cash-funded-norths-weapons-idUSKBN1EM064
If the BBC reported on the royal family like it did on North Korea
https://gowans.wordpress.com/2015/10/21/if-the-bbc-reported-on-the-royal-family-like-it-did-on-north-korea/
Serbian Coach reveals how mainstream media ‘kills’ NK athletes
https://sputniknews.com/analysis/201709161057447560-north-korea-mainstream-media-bias/
Western DPRK Propaganda: The worst, occasionally hilarious, and often racist, lies
https://anti-imperialism.org/2014/08/14/western-dprk-propaganda-the-worst-occasionally-hilarious-and-often-racist-lies/
Crazy Anti-North Korean propaganda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQkgP6z8XW4
Songbullshit - The Evidence that Every Accusation against the DPRK in Robert Collins' and the Committee for Human Rights in North Korea's “Marked for Life: Songbun – North Korea's Social Classification System” is False
https://www.rhizzone.net/articles/songbullshit/
North Korean Propaganda: A Cavalcade of Comedy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49SO4vn4SNI
The propaganda war against North Korea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f22QGIWXGw
The Haircut - A North Korean adventure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BO83Ig-E8E
Interview with makers of The Haircut
https://www.patreon.com/posts/interview-with-14579589
A lot of what you know about North Korea is racist nonsense
https://medium.com/defiant/a-lot-of-what-you-know-about-north-korea-is-racist-nonsense-a625256b51cc
Family declines autopsy for US student released by North Korea
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-northkorea-detainee-idUSKBN19B25Z
Amnesty International botches blame for North Korea’s crumbling healthcare
https://gowans.wordpress.com/2010/07/20/amnesty-international-botches-blame-for-north-korea%E2%80%99s-crumbling-healthcare/
Dispelling myths about North Korea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1241&v=HNf3wM0feb8
Why is North Korea so crazy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS9Zti5oKrI&feature=youtu.be
TYT dumbasses on the DPRK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yUtU-xKPms
WHO blasts Amnesty for N. Korea health report - CBS news
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/who-blasts-amnesty-for-n-korea-health-report/
Why is North Korea so crazy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS9Zti5oKrI&feature=youtu.be
“Forbidden photos taken inside Kim Kong-Un’s secretive state” - commentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sn2IrI-rfiE
“27 smuggled pictures North Korea doesn’t want you to see” - commentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SD9MllQ0Gpw
Excerpt from “The Propaganda Game”
https://www.facebook.com/DankDPRKMemes/videos/417962668575523/
US imperialist ‘human rights’ campaigns - who are they fooling?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0p6EH5TEOU
Human rights: DPRK vs USA
http://www.cpgb-ml.org/index.php?secName=proletarian&subName=display&art=1070
South Korea and the art of collaboration: Raw war propaganda against the DPRK
https://www.globalresearch.ca/south-korea-and-the-art-of-collaboration-raw-war-propaganda-against-the-dprk/5512043
What if North Korea is not crazy? - CNN
https://www.facebook.com/cnn/videos/10157029124596509/
Otto Warmbier’s body showed no signs of torture - coroner
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-41423729
Warmbier family decline autopsy for US student released by North Korea
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-northkorea-detainee/family-declines-autopsy-for-u-s-student-released-by-north-korea-idUSKBN19B25Z
Myths and Misconceptions about North Korea | DEBUNKED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhaHiht50AA
The North Korean purge that didn’t happen
https://blogs.wsj.com/korearealtime/2014/03/07/the-north-korean-purge-that-didnt-happen/?mod=WSJBlog&fref=gc
5 lies by Steve Shives
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_mjOfYxwzM
DPRK Never Removed Marxism From The Constitution
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfm_K6eil6Y
Half of North Koreans Have Guns and Artillery
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXpSap6FhR4
‘Show us the evidence’: N. Korea invites US to prove Pyongyang’s WannaCry connection
https://www.rt.com/usa/414241-north-korean-wannacry-attack/
A look at life in North Korea
http://avax.news/fact/A_Look_at_Life_in_North_Korea_03-10-2017.html
In North Korea: First eye-witness report by Anna Louise-Strong (1949)
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/strong-anna-louise/1949/in-north-korea/
My trip to North Korea: 13 misconceptions corrected
https://www.liberationnews.org/my-trip-to-north-korea-13-misconceptions-corrected/
Eyewitness North Korea: An American’s journey to the DPRK before the travel ban
http://www.hamptoninstitution.org/eyewitness-north-korea.html#.WbWO17KGOUn
An American tourist in North Korea: Exploring the DPRK and running the Pyongyang Marathon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkN42srizJo
What we saw in North Korea goes against everything western media wants us to believe - American Herald Tribune
https://ahtribune.com/world/asia-pacific/1883-north-korea-washington.html
Adelaide student studying in Pyongyang
https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/37230864/adelaide-student-studying-in-pyongyang-north-korea/
Serbian tourists visit DPRK
https://sputniknews.com/asia/201709121057330168-serbia-tourists-visit/
Surfing in North Korea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO4M1U_2bmk
Iranian Muslims in NK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLw1v-xQA7I
The Greek who lived in North Korea
http://greece.greekreporter.com/2017/10/14/exclusive-the-greek-who-lived-in-north-korea-tells-her-story/
Playlist of short clips taken in DPRK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUoQioU65Mk&list=PLqtiZC-4QZC1gws0TTZSW8SPVSlmW2Oos&index=1
Tourist who took camera inside North Korea shocked at seemingly ordinary lives of citizens
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2638213/Tourist-took-camera-inside-North-Korea-expected-really-really-sad-people-shocked-seemingly-ordinary-lives-citizens.html
Gay travellers in DPRK
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/30/business/how-to-plan-a-safe-trip-for-gay-and-transgender-travelers.html
North Korea in the eyes of Turkey’s Socialists
https://medium.com/@bcloud__/north-korea-in-the-eyes-of-turkey-s-socialist-s-c673510e64db
Visit to the DPRK by the Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist)
https://marxistleninist.wordpress.com/2008/11/30/cpn-maoist-on-juche-in-dprk/
Marcel Cartier: a trip to North Korea
http://dekusada.blogspot.hk/2014/04/by-marcel-cartier-i-had-unique.html


"How to win an online argument in 2021 for dummies:

Step 1: Throw copious amounts of dubious sources at your opponent who has neither time nor interest to bother debunking each and every one of them. If they do, go to the second page of your Google search and repeat the process.

Step 2: Pretend that you have won once they stop replying."

>Dubious sources

Did you just call reuters, your favorite media outlet, dubious? Lol keep in denial.
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Desolated said:
149597871 said:


"How to win an online argument in 2021 for dummies:

Step 1: Throw copious amounts of dubious sources at your opponent who has neither time nor interest to bother debunking each and every one of them. If they do, go to the second page of your Google search and repeat the process.

Step 2: Pretend that you have won once they stop replying."

>Dubious sources

Did you just call reuters, your favorite media outlet, dubious? Lol keep in denial.


2 reputable sources out of like 50 does not make the overall quality very high, so there is no contradiction here. Besides, the Reuters article is about an incident that is not even related to my main point.
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I doubt any country wants to try to take on the US. The EU would have more power to if they were to sanction the US but it's not happening. Technically China could possibly cripple the US economy by stopping exporting resources and products but that isn't hapoening because it would effect their economy too. But it's just a troll hashtag to make a point anyway.

deg said:
>American communists

as they say communism is not yet technologically ready aka Fully Automated Luxury Communism is not yet ready

Again we already are post scarcity when it comes to food it just doesn't get distributed right which is why people starve regardless. Also companies like Amazon use AI to determine where goods need to be stored based on individual's and groups buying habits which can easily be used for non market purposes. There also exists ways to selectively find mineral deposits by examining the tops of trees. Plus material science allows for creation of new materials to replace anything not in abundance to create. We also have had automation and robots for a long time. Most if not all of the tech is there.

149597871 said:

2 reputable sources out of like 50 does not make the overall quality very high, so there is no contradiction here. Besides, the Reuters article is about an incident that is not even related to my main point.
MediaBiasFactCheck only relatively recently added "very high" and "very low" and has not updated every site's rank since then so you shouldn't automatically ignore one's saying "high". That leaves if I didn't miss any: Reuters, NPR, New York Times, BBC, CBS, and ABC News Australia...Hampton Institution is the website for an American research university. Marxists.org is just a site that posts books and letters and sometimes speeches from various authors not produce it's own content. That's without me checking the YouTube videos some of which are I assume news sources that also can be checked. I dont have time to check how related everything is so Im not arguing how (un)democratic North Korea is relative to other countries since I cant agree or disagree without being sure being how difficult it is to get info on the inner workings of it that isn't propoganda one way or another.
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Fully Automated Economy is possible now? its not yet right?

as for food security we cannot even get cheap to free desalination and cheap lab grown foods yet
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Fully Automated Economy is possible now? its not yet right?

Full automation isn't meant to be literal since there are jobs people enjoy so not all jobs will ever be automated. Why not more things are automated as is is because the cost of designing then developing the machines to automate which limits it to the size of the largest corporation in any industry. Automation just happens in capitalism when the cost of automation is cheaper than labour.
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149597871 said:

2 reputable sources out of like 50 does not make the overall quality very high, so there is no contradiction here. Besides, the Reuters article is about an incident that is not even related to my main point.
MediaBiasFactCheck only relatively recently added "very high" and "very low" and has not updated every site's rank since then so you shouldn't automatically ignore one's saying "high". That leaves if I didn't miss any: Reuters, NPR, New York Times, BBC, CBS, and ABC News Australia...Hampton Institution is the website for an American research university. Marxists.org is just a site that posts books and letters and sometimes speeches from various authors not produce it's own content. That's without me checking the YouTube videos some of which are I assume news sources that also can be checked. I dont have time to check how related everything is so Im not arguing how (un)democratic North Korea is relative to other countries since I cant agree or disagree without being sure being how difficult it is to get info on the inner workings of it that isn't propoganda one way or another.


I did not even use media bias to determine that. A lot of these sources are youtube videos and personal blogs that are not even on the fact-checking list. Others are not even supporting OP's claims unless his confirmation bias is way out of control. It is a pretty obvious and dishonest attempt to make false claims look more legitimate by copy-pasting an overwhelming number of sources with questionable origin that nobody has the time to go through. I doubt even OP or the person who sent him this list has checked the validity of all or any of these sources.

Truth be told, I think there is a lot of disinformation from both sides. I have expressed concerns about growing SK propaganda in the past, but calling the North Korean totalitarian state "democratic" while claiming that the West is "authoritarian in comparison" just contradicts the objective reality.
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I doubt any country wants to try to take on the US. The EU would have more power to if they were to sanction the US but it's not happening. Technically China could possibly cripple the US economy by stopping exporting resources and products but that isn't hapoening because it would effect their economy too. But it's just a troll hashtag to make a point anyway.


China is taking on the US and winning. Chinese play the long game while the US can only think of war.

My theory is they will wait for a failed crop season (an ever increasing chance due to climate change) then collapse the US economy. A starving and armed population will turn on each other and we will begging for food and help....Then the Chinese step in after being invited into the US. All without firing a shot.
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A few twitter users couldn't even be bothered to get off their asses to make a political statement. They did, however, make spicy posts for a day. No one cared. More news at 11.
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I did not even use media bias to determine that. A lot of these sources are youtube videos and personal blogs that are not even on the fact-checking list. Others are not even supporting OP's claims unless his confirmation bias is way out of control. It is a pretty obvious and dishonest attempt to make false claims look more legitimate by copy-pasting an overwhelming number of sources with questionable origin that nobody has the time to go through. I doubt even OP or the person who sent him this list has checked the validity of all or any of these sources.

Truth be told, I think there is a lot of disinformation from both sides. I have expressed concerns about growing SK propaganda in the past, but calling the North Korean totalitarian state "democratic" while claiming that the West is "authoritarian in comparison" just contradicts the objective reality.

You'd have to ask him to clarify what his point was he was going for. Im not sure he was trying to be literal or not since "democratic" doesnt always reference elections but a general idea.

NK does do elections and has different parties that run so officially it's not even a one part state. People can vote for someone or against someone instead as a sort of vague vote. It's just a matter of how it compares in (il)legitimacy to others. Which seems near impossible to figure out being a country run by an ideology focused on self reliance and political isolation in attempt to not be collapsed by outside forces (which isnt doing that great for them anymore). So whether guilty of election fraud or not they likely will act the same.

My instincts tell me their election are similar with Russia where only weak or unpopular runners get to run in elections so no one gives them enough votes rather than the suspect claims anyone who doesn't vote for kim will be punished which anyone who thinks of it would know that's not practical to do that because how much force and sudveilence it would take to hold back large masses on an individual basis which is something even surveilence states like the US, UK and China dont pull off easily and it would quickly grow opposition. I also think it's retarded the west always portrays North Koreans as completely brainwashed idiots. Sure an isolated country does have more influence but beyond that they aren't uniquely guilty being basically every government has disinfirmation or misinformation.

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China is taking on the US and winning. Chinese play the long game while the US can only think of war.

My theory is they will wait for a failed crop season (an ever increasing chance due to climate change) then collapse the US economy. A starving and armed population will turn on each other and we will begging for food and help....Then the Chinese step in after being invited into the US. All without firing a shot.

I'm not sure they are really interested in directly competing with the US just not wanting the US to influence them negatively. They make their political moves on countries the US doesn't have as much hand in.

I'm not sure on that. Yes famine is possible from climate change many famines were results of draught. What I question is if people would turn on eachother inherently.

Freshell said:
A few twitter users couldn't even be bothered to get off their asses to make a political statement. They did, however, make spicy posts for a day. No one cared. More news at 11.

To be fair most movements these days start online because it's an easy way to gain support and organize. But yeah as I also said it was merely a jest it seems.
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I just read 98% of the US wheat crop is undergoing drought in the US currently, maybe it will happen sooner than we think?!
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I doubt the drought will cause a famine or anything like that, as we have plenty of ways to manage it. Perhaps increased prices for some foods, but no more than that. Also bear in mind that the US is the world's biggest food exporter, so food shortages here would mean food shortages in other countries. Thus, it would be foolish to want food shortages to happen here.

It won't affect anyone in Europe as US food is below the required standard and thus can't be exported here. eg Hormone beef, chlorinated chicken, GM food, literal crap allowed food as long as it's below a certain percentage. etc

I am not hoping for it but the Chinese will be as it will secure the decline of the US which is of course good for them.
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Lol. Of course. The US is the top researcher in GMO and drought resistant crops. It is part of the agricultural independence plan. It would not be overly hard to change up the Monsanto formula and make specific crop viruses that target non GMO crops. The MIC isn't filled with Lysenkoism after all, but just a matter of how dirty will they let us fight.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33478128/

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Jeez, whatever tankies... Why don't you visit or move to North Korea yourself? You'll probably have your passport seized and eventually thrown into a concentration camp, later to be known as one of those idiots who trusted a murderous communist nation like people did back in the 20th century with the USSR.

The problem with the US is honestly that it has too much freedom and lots of people here grow up with no discipline and turn into trashy people who think that anybody who has objections to them running around doing whatever they want regardless of who they effect is a fascist. At least I admit though that my goal is to impose more regulations on social life and don't pretend that totalitarian governments that kill tens of thousands of people are actually bastions of freedom and democracy.
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my goal is to impose more regulations on social life

You mean like social distancing?
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traed said:
Freshell said:
A few twitter users couldn't even be bothered to get off their asses to make a political statement. They did, however, make spicy posts for a day. No one cared. More news at 11.

To be fair most movements these days start online because it's an easy way to gain support and organize. But yeah as I also said it was merely a jest it seems.

I agree it was in jest. Just a dig at OP for acting like it was more than an act taken in jest, lol.
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Ryuk9428 said:
my goal is to impose more regulations on social life

You mean like social distancing?
no no no that would be the government doing stuff, and we all know what that means... communism!!!!!!!!

never take someone with a trump signature seriously
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Ah welkome to the free west.
While you are here, you shall be hounded for saying something naughty while the US gov will flag your posts.
And if you just happen to live on Brittish soil, you might even be arrested for saying naughty words.

A d these are supposed to be capitalist ciuntries aka "Small government" countries.
Imagine of these Countries had a big government.

You shouldn't come to a communist nor an capitalist for freedom.
In China, you can say things that would get you cancelled in the US and vice versa.
And in Cuba, ppl got hit with life ammo.

All countries have laws and enforcers who will use force if you break them.
If you Riot and then get hit with a rubber bullet, don't cry about freedom and shit because you have probably broken the law.
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Ah welkome to the free west.
While you are here, you shall be hounded for saying something naughty while the US gov will flag your posts.
And if you just happen to live on Brittish soil, you might even be arrested for saying naughty words.

A d these are supposed to be capitalist ciuntries aka "Small government" countries.
Imagine of these Countries had a big government.

You shouldn't come to a communist nor an capitalist for freedom.
In China, you can say things that would get you cancelled in the US and vice versa.
And in Cuba, ppl got hit with life ammo.

All countries have laws and enforcers who will use force if you break them.
If you Riot and then get hit with a rubber bullet, don't cry about freedom and shit because you have probably broken the law.
Small government and big government is a capitalist lie.

US government interferes with other countries and its people affairs more than any other countries in the world. They're the "biggest government". Far bigger than the any other government.
Aug 3, 2021 8:01 AM

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>USA did nothing in WWII
>Lend-Lease didn't helped at all
Oh, do I see a Russian comrade here? Because that sounds exactly like current Russian propaganda.
traed said:
My instincts tell me their election are similar with Russia where only weak or unpopular runners get to run in elections so no one gives them enough votes rather than the suspect claims anyone who doesn't vote for kim will be punished which anyone who thinks of it would know that's not practical to do that because how much force and sudveilence it would take to hold back large masses on an individual basis which is something even surveilence states like the US, UK and China dont pull off easily and it would quickly grow opposition.
I'm glad you have lesser imagination and creativity than Vlad the President. Because we already have enough cases when people were fired or expelled just by campaigning for real independent candidates. And you actually don't even need to install that much of surveillance. Because all the tech you need is already in most of citizens possession. It's called smartphones. You know, those things that have built-in hi-res camera. So, you just tell your students or employees to photograph their ballot. You know, just to be sure they voted for the right candidate or party. No vile intentions, I swear!

There is such thing as shit taste. Only idiots think that every "work of art" should have the same value.

Persona anime are good. Deal with it.
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How could that sound like Russian propoganda to suggest Russia has unfair elections? Sure you can get data on everyone but it takes real people to actually look at it and enforce any oppression. Completely impractical. When a government wants to amass total control they go after groups more than individuals unless the individuals are in high positions of influence or power. It's just more efficient to kill whole groups with military might than to pick out millions of nobodies from the general public.
Aug 3, 2021 11:42 PM

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Eeehhh. My response to you is after your quote. I thought that is, you know, Obvious. My response about sounding like a Russian propagandist is to topic starter. So, please, look at my response again, though there is nothing to reply to, but I believe it's pretty important info if you want to know a little bit more about how elections in Russia currently held. Sorry for misunderstanding, though I have no idea how that could even happen.

There is such thing as shit taste. Only idiots think that every "work of art" should have the same value.

Persona anime are good. Deal with it.
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Desolated said:
Bourmegar said:
Ah welkome to the free west.
While you are here, you shall be hounded for saying something naughty while the US gov will flag your posts.
And if you just happen to live on Brittish soil, you might even be arrested for saying naughty words.

A d these are supposed to be capitalist ciuntries aka "Small government" countries.
Imagine of these Countries had a big government.

You shouldn't come to a communist nor an capitalist for freedom.
In China, you can say things that would get you cancelled in the US and vice versa.
And in Cuba, ppl got hit with life ammo.

All countries have laws and enforcers who will use force if you break them.
If you Riot and then get hit with a rubber bullet, don't cry about freedom and shit because you have probably broken the law.
Small government and big government is a capitalist lie.

US government interferes with other countries and its people affairs more than any other countries in the world. They're the "biggest government". Far bigger than the any other government.

But ey at least the US government isn't interfering with Private stuff right?
Oh wait the White house is flagging posts on Twitter and Facebook......

Small gov and big Gov are just a wrong term.
Small gov just means less regulation on private stuff. Buuuut that " Small" gov of the US has a nasty habid of interfering with other governments and Screwing them over as result........
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