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| Damn what an ending, reminds me of the Code Geass ending a lot. What a wild ride and when Sherly jumped off with William on that bridge I teared up a bit. One of the most underrated animes of this season in my opinion. |
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solidss said: SaltyReinn said: I'm highly confused from the amount of people praising the ending. This whole season felt a bit rushed, the whole Moriarty plan was supposed to be a grand amazing plan that nobody else could have thought of, but they just slayed more nobility and then started a fire and one of the side characters gave a heartfelt speech that softened the hearts of the nobility. What a plan. Not to mention the character motivations are all over the place. Sure, Sherlock, you talked to Moriarty three-four times during the entire show run time, he's your amazing friend (apparently more important than Watson), but he's also a mass murderer, so this whole lovers suicide at the end really felt like the writers pulled it out of their asses. I don't know, really mixed feelings about this show. Nice animations and good atmosphere, but often times a really stupid plot that's trying to sell itself as very intellingent. I'm glad to find bright and intelligent comment without fakeness and boot licking. I agree, this ending was horrible. Second season started off better than the first one but after the Irene arc everything went downhill with some peaks there and there. I would have preferred that they didn't have rushed everything up and made an open ending than this. The only reason I didn't give a lower grade (I gave it a 6) is because of the amazing art and the presence of Irene, I really liked her character. But overall I'm very disappointed. I'll try to read the manga though, I really hope it's much better than this. |
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| Just one thing to say: "Catch me if you can Mr. Holmes" The ending isn't anything special, but I liked it. It was a great season, and in my opinion, it surpassed the first part. A great watch. I might check the manga for more backstories and character development. |
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| While this season felt kinda rushed imo, i still think the ending was quite amazing and the ride was still worth it for sure. Storywise, as good as the 1st season, nothing much to add tbh. When it comes to Lord of Crime vs Sherlock, i knew i'd be glued to the screen anyways, and thats basically what happened xd 8/10 just like the 1st season, awesome thriller show overallđź‘Ś |
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| I have never wished for a show to be Shounen-Ai this badly!!! |
| What a letdown. His whole "master plan" was to get the nobility and the working-class people to cooperate. Why then even go to the extent of killing the previous nobles. The last 2-3 episodes ruined the whole series for me |
| I skimmed through these chapters in the manga and was really curious how they would end it since the manga is ongoing. Although I feel the very last part could have been better, I'm really satisfied overall. The visuals when they jumped off the bridge were stunning compared to the straightforward art in the manga. I loved it! Definitely an enjoyable series. It also got me to watch the BBC Sherlock series so I'd say it's a win-win. Like many others, I recommend reading the manga if you are interested. I only read a bit so far and they clearly cut a lot out to focus on the meat of the story. Imo that made some of the characters, especially Moriarty, more dry in the anime which is a shame. |
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| This is how you end an anime.. the 2 minute Sherly vs Liam fight was better then that anti climactic ending of nomad.. which sucked ass btw.. . I'm glad that they ended the anime on such an open ending note.. also.. no sign of Milverton huh.. really expected him to make an appearance for a split second but oh well Also happy that no one actually died |
| Okay, this kind of feels like an insult to the amazing season 1. They should have taken their time with the story, and properly developed it. One of the things that makes stories told from a different character's POV fun is how it changes the way we look at the scenes in the original story. But, this went with a whole new story, so that fun part was completely removed. They changed the location of Moriarty's death. How disappointing! Even though they had foreshadowed the place in season 1! I wish Sherlock and Moriarty had really gone from being friends to hating each other. That would have been a more interesting development. But, this went with the typical YA trope of "In a different world, we could could have been friends". (I know this is YA, but this could have done something better!) Because of this change, they had to get rid of Sherlock's and Moriarty's amazing abilities to think and act on the spot. I'm saying this as someone who loves BL: WTF was that Sherlock x Moriarty moment! Gross!! No!! That's weird! Sherlock x John would have been better since it was actually there in the original books too (probably accidentally, but still)! I don't want to only say bad stuff. So, here are some good parts: -The soundtracks, and the way they were used. -The way the walls were wet, letting the audience piece together that they were about to burn the place. -Also, a tied up Albert is always a welcome sight. -Do I need to mention the art? Production IG has always been great with it, so I feel like I'd be stating the obvious if I talked about how the art quality was so high. |
| the ending is really rushed and so many scenes are skipped especially the bridge scene. (skipped moran shot william when he was at the bridge & sherlock dialogue "I finally catch you") really underwhelming ending ngl. and I doubt they're gonna continue the anime even though the manga is still on going with the MI6 guys. (the time skip in the anime is only months, while in the manga its years, one of the sign this wont get a continuation). But still a good underrated series nevertheless. Deserve to have more fame. |
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Blue_Maroon said: A pretty disappointing concluding season. It felt like they were just trying to throw in a bunch of Holmes stories and other references without much thought to the overarching narrative and character building. The Irene arc had no purpose. Sherlock killing Milverton had no purpose. Sherlock was a complete disappointment this season. He is hyped up to being on the same level as Moriaty but he is always 5 steps behind and never got much development. All of a sudden he and Moriaty are best friends that are worth dying for after talking 3 or 4 times total. The art, animation, and music were all top-notch and the writing wasn’t complete garbage, but it is certainly a letdown from the promise the first season showed. 6/10. Closer to a 5 than a 7. I Agree with you.I feel very dissapoined in this SS 2. I like SS1 more. I give 3/10 because it whole of SS2 is full of unnecessary references like James Bond and Jack the Ripper in Moriaty team,Seriously? The story is no progression and very boring and predictable. |
AnidoseTHJun 27, 2021 10:54 PM
| I see, its the power of friendship all over again. Ofc William successfully be saved. The conclusion kinda anticlimactic for me, even though the whole plan of Moriarty always blown my mind completely. However, the way they decided up having William and Sherlock got that abrupt final, even without showing how it can be happening in the first place (as expected, rushed ending to conclude everything on the right time, in the right place, i see). Its really not so convincing, in my honest opinion, moreover, with everyone final position. Bonde, after getting so much hype back then, suddenly became a sole nothing-but-side-character-only in these episode, thus same with the others. Louis even got some ridiculous job in the end, different from his older brother. Holy mind-blowing shit right there. After all, Its a bit sad with how this conclude, less impactful than i thought. Still, the reason is, mostly, because i am enjoying myself on the first season more than this. Because the final look even more solid back then than this, and including more detective story than this second season. After Bonde got an introduction, everything went down hill, on my point of view. However, it is what it is, everything already end. So, whatever. I am still willing to consider myself giving this second season a fair amount of score. Thats it all from me. No hate, and moving on.... |
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| The first 12 episodes, for me, were fantastic. However, I thought the last episode was massively rushed and some things about it just didn't sit right with me. I'm probably going to change my rating from an 8 to a 7, but I'm still on the fence because I really did love the other 12 episodes... again, this is just my own personal opinion and take on the season. Agree or disagree, I don't care. My opinion is my own. |
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| Sexy. “Sherly is my BFF” & “Liam is my BFF” sorta came outta nowhere but I’m not complaining. I can’t believe Sherly jumped with him a literal what the flying fuck lol And daddy Moran!!!!! ♡_______♡ Wished they left the ending a bittttttttt more ambiguous too. But goodbye Yuukoku no Moriarty, that’s 2-cour of bishieness they have served us on a silver platter. I’ll miss that. |
 ꕤ but i’ll probably remember over and over again you were there and everyone else was there — the day we all searched for just one thing ꕤ |
| aaand he catched him. i liked that ending, a few stuff im still confused with but ill just see the other posts |
| The moment when Liam said "You came here not as a detective.. but as a friend, didn't you? You've bested me, Sherly." was touching and I didn't expect Sherlock to jump in.. I'm quite satisfied with the ending, the only thing that bothered me was that I felt sad because Albert was a person who didn't often contribute to Moriarty's crimes but he was the only one in prison... while the others continue to live by doing a new job or live in a new place. The fact is that it all started with Albert who supported William's idea when they were kids, yet I just felt sad about it. |
hanakocheeksJun 28, 2021 3:45 AM
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| This last episode actually made me cry. It was so beautiful I honestly wasn't expecting something like this, especially not Sherlock to jump after William. Since the manga is still ongoing, I really hope there will be a 3rd season. My only issue with this whole ending is that everyone goes on with their lives, only Albert is arrested who will probably be sentenced to death. So yeah... not cool... |
KobushiDeNanpa said: First Megalo Box, now Moriarty.. streak of pathetic endings continue lol First of all that whole idea that some big fire can open aristocrats eyes and unite them with commoners is very dumb and unrealistic. Then that staged cheap theatrical fight with Holmes was very cringe and author used this same move with Jack earlier and on a ship too. My god this was awful.. at least Production L.G. delivered as usual. p.s. but of course redditors will praise this shallow garbage as usual lol I liked Nomads ending but this one was pretty shit. |
| idc what anyone says,this episode was pretty good. I would have liked it more if they didn't tell us he was alive but whatever. and another thing was that people came together pretty easy and they stayed like that afterwards 🤔 idk |
callmenedaJun 28, 2021 4:47 AM
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AnidoseTH said: Blue_Maroon said: A pretty disappointing concluding season. It felt like they were just trying to throw in a bunch of Holmes stories and other references without much thought to the overarching narrative and character building. The Irene arc had no purpose. Sherlock killing Milverton had no purpose. Sherlock was a complete disappointment this season. He is hyped up to being on the same level as Moriaty but he is always 5 steps behind and never got much development. All of a sudden he and Moriaty are best friends that are worth dying for after talking 3 or 4 times total. The art, animation, and music were all top-notch and the writing wasn’t complete garbage, but it is certainly a letdown from the promise the first season showed. 6/10. Closer to a 5 than a 7. I Agree with you.I feel very dissapoined in this SS 2. I like SS1 more. I give 3/10 because it whole of SS2 is full of unnecessary references like James Bond and Jack the Ripper in Moriaty team,Seriously? The story is no progression and very boring and predictable. Yeah I actually bumped it down to a 5 when I wrote my review. It gets worse the more I think about it. |
| Wow, that bridge scene has to be one among the most beautiful scenes I saw in anime. This season was a bit fast paced and especially the plot with Milverton and the last episodes gave the impression that this could have been done in a few more episodes but still I like how it was done and how it ended. Anime went for the different ending than the manga and it worked pretty well. I like how they chose to focus more on what it means to atone and what it means to give yourself to your country, hence the Patriot in the name, than the pure logic of everything else. They went with making this emotional and succeeded. All in all, this was a really pleasurable anime. That much that I wouldn't even mind if they watered it down a bit more before arriving at The final problem. |
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| Good finale but it feels like the pacing in these last few episodes was too fast to be impactful. In fact, the entire final problem felt rushed through and the few episodes before also weren't as compelling to me. Even Moriarty's grand plan could've been something much more extravagant. Assuming the nation was as corrupt and divided as they said, I think they needed way more than a fire and some heartfelt speeches (Not that they weren't good, I loved them) to get over it. Killing the nobles also seems like the easy way out as Sherlock pointed out to Moriarty himself. However, by far the most interesting tidbit to me was that Watson releases the Sherlock Holmes book and it sounds like the book is the version of Sherlock Holmes that we know in reality. The idea that the book is just fabricated to make Moriarty out to be more diabolic just to write home the fact that he is the devil and make me people remember it is kinda interesting to think about. Overall, I don't think I enjoyed the first season as much as I did the first. I think the first half was good but the second half i.e. ever since Moriarty decided to put his plan into action felt a little too rushed. I can understand the reason why Sherlock and Moriarty feel like they could've been good friends but it does feel a little off that Sherlock would go so far for him when we don't get as much background into him. I'll let it pass though, since despite everything I said. I did really enjoy the show, it's only the last few episodes that kinda lost me and this is definitely by far the best Sherlock Holmes adaptation in anime form I've seen. 8/10, Definitely wouldn't mind a 3rd season. Kinda wish they explained how both of them survived the fall or at least tease us like how they did in BBC Sherlock. |
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| Perfect ending thematically for the show, but it did feel rushed. I knew they had to adjust some things from the manga to make it fit the anime's runtime, but they still got the message across. Honestly wanna read the manga, anyone know if I have to read from the beginning or if I can just read the chapters they skipped. Honestly prefer just reading the skipped chapters or cut contents. Louis is now the leader of MI6, that's pretty cool. Bonde is definitely part of that team lmao. I think the season was just a little better than season 1, I give it an 8.5/10 ~ 8/10 |
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Will_do_it_later said: I have never wished for a show to be Shounen-Ai this badly!!! I felt the same way xd It was like No.6 for me, that wasnt shounen-ai either, but it was hinted |
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| There were some great episodes this season but feeling a little let down by this ending ngl. The pace was just too fast and kinda felt like the final plan came out of no where. Just feels like wasted potential tbh. Both Sherlock and William surviving the falls feels kinda like a cop out as well. |
S_Tadayoshi said: FuMomo-kun said: The death scene, I agree, shoulda been in the place where the books say. But where in Season 1 do they mention Liam's death place? I seem to have forgotten as it was long ago.Okay, this kind of feels like an insult to the amazing season 1. They should have taken their time with the story, and properly developed it. One of the things that makes stories told from a different character's POV fun is how it changes the way we look at the scenes in the original story. But, this went with a whole new story, so that fun part was completely removed. They changed the location of Moriarty's death. How disappointing! Even though they had foreshadowed the place in season 1! I wish Sherlock and Moriarty had really gone from being friends to hating each other. That would have been a more interesting development. But, this went with the typical YA trope of "In a different world, we could could have been friends". (I know this is YA, but this could have done something better!) Because of this change, they had to get rid of Sherlock's and Moriarty's amazing abilities to think and act on the spot. I'm saying this as someone who loves BL: WTF was that Sherlock x Moriarty moment! Gross!! No!! That's weird! Sherlock x John would have been better since it was actually there in the original books too (probably accidentally, but still)! I don't want to only say bad stuff. So, here are some good parts: -The soundtracks, and the way they were used. -The way the walls were wet, letting the audience piece together that they were about to burn the place. -Also, a tied up Albert is always a welcome sight. -Do I need to mention the art? Production IG has always been great with it, so I feel like I'd be stating the obvious if I talked about how the art quality was so high. The ED. Baby Moriarty paints it on the wall of the ruins. |
| it was bad , i did not like it most characters did not get any character development at all that moment when moriarty said wish we could be friend seems so fake and for not a good reason |
Boazanian said: Amazing series from start to finish, and definitely liked this 2nd cour. Really liked how they used the historical aspects here to tie the story together, felt almost as if it was real history. Really cool that Louis became founder of MI6 haha! Anyways, considering the manga is still ongoing, the anime must be different compared to it. Might possibly pick it up one day. In the manga, the founder is Albert. Louis inherits his position after he's presumed dead/willingly locked in the London Tower. Mycroft backed him with this (he appears before his brother in the manga). |
| I really loved this series, but i would have liked it even more if they had fleshed it in a longer format (like 50 episodes o so), because i feel that with so many charismatic characters and the interesting plot, a slow build up could have helped it reach a better conclusion. I don't like very much the ending either, i think willian dying would have been more significant to the story, and since the anime was only 2 cours theres not that many interactions between holmes and moriarty for me to buy the "friend" thing, idk. 8/10. |
| That was YAOI of Sherlock to catch William before they dive in the flames of waters! LOLZ! So the live-on and atone by the orders of Sherlock was wilfully obeyed by William huh... 5/5. 8/10. |
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SaltyReinn said: I'm highly confused from the amount of people praising the ending. This whole season felt a bit rushed, the whole Moriarty plan was supposed to be a grand amazing plan that nobody else could have thought of, but they just slayed more nobility and then started a fire and one of the side characters gave a heartfelt speech that softened the hearts of the nobility. What a plan. Not to mention the character motivations are all over the place. Sure, Sherlock, you talked to Moriarty three-four times during the entire show run time, he's your amazing friend (apparently more important than Watson), but he's also a mass murderer, so this whole lovers suicide at the end really felt like the writers pulled it out of their asses. I don't know, really mixed feelings about this show. Nice animations and good atmosphere, but often times a really stupid plot that's trying to sell itself as very intellingent. The anime did some stupid thing to cut the arct Holmes and Moriarty become "best friends." I use that with air quotes because their feelings seem like a soulmate bond masked as "friendship." Both VAs agreed it's an undefined "thing." Got to give it to the anime makers to have the bartender asking Holmes if he's chasing after a lady lol. |
ThessJun 29, 2021 12:47 AM
| Moriarty falling off the bridge was my favorite scene. While I do agree that the last episode felt rushed, it still was a good show for me. It's too bad that they skipped some parts from the manga and slightly altered the ending, I guess this just means that we will most likely not get another season:( |
| A laughable ending to what was an otherwise enjoyable show |
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| Well that was a goofy ending to an okay show. Kinda slid downhill a bit towards the end but it was all right. |
| Even though the end was technically a good one (I mean, William didn't die and they all found their own ways to move on with their life) it was still quite heartbreaking. It's so sad that Louis has to live the rest of his life not knowing if William is alive, Albert ended up in prison and John thinks Sherlock is dead. That's pretty bittersweet if you ask me! The ways in which the creator retold the original Sherlock Holmes stories was genius, especially how it managed to twist things so that Moriarty was so likable and righteous in his/ their intentions. I am so impressed and adore that Moriarty & Holmes's rivalry was retold as a complex friendship where their extreme intelligence and struggles to fit into society bonded them because it's a feasible path that the two could've taken but one that hasn't been explored. |
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| Ending was a little unsurprising and don't know what to say about the fanservice, but it's still quite interesting to watch overall. |
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