| Every battle anime has some sort of power system which one of these power system is the best? For the record what I mean by best is how fleshed out it is how creative they get with the powers that are used. For me it's obvious and that is the Magic Power System and Science Power System or Esper Abilities from the Toaru Series. I have never seen a show that balances the concepts of magic and science so seamlessly the way Toaru does. I also like that the science half is still very much grounded in real life science and physics . For example take Accelerator's ability of vector manipulation he has the power to control the direction and size of literally any attack thrown at him through his manipulation of vectors but it allows him to do so much more because pretty much everything has a vector component. His ability can also allow him do thing such as cause earthquake by stomping his foot, block soundwaves, control wind, manipulate blood flow, etc. Now I know your thinking "That sound overpowered af does he have any weaknesses?" Yes his weakness is math. Accelerator has calculate how much of his ability he needs whenever uses it. So he has to be able to do these complex equation in his head in order to control his ability and that is such a smart way of weakening him it's amazing. I could go on for hours talking about the power system of Toaru but I'm gonna stop here. |
Adimus_primeAug 7, 2020 8:18 PM
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| FullMetal Alchemist: Brotherhood and Hunter x Hunter (2011) comes to mind first. The whole power system based on alchemy & stuff in the world of FMA is grounded strongly by the laws & principles of Equivalent Exchange, which as a whole creates a strong sense of morality/justice prevailing over the alchemy/transmutation based power system, which doesn't leave much of a scope for asspulls or DEM power ups. While HxH has Nen which is one of the most well-detailed & well-explained shounen powers till date which makes many of battle look very sound, well executed & well thought out Though the reason why I wouldn't put it on the same level as FMA is because there are a few asspull/DEM power-up moments in the Greed Island arc which feels more like isekai powers rather than a well-explained shounen power. But other than that, it's perfect. |
345EdwardElricAug 6, 2020 9:55 PM
| "There's no such thing as a painless lesson, they just don't exist. Sacrifices are necessary. You can't gain anything without losing something first. Although if you can endure that pain and walk away from it, you'll find that you now have a heart strong enough to overcome any obstacle. Yeah... a heart made full-metal." ~Edward Elric |
| Yeah, same, the Toaru system since it's grounded in science principles and the like at the base, and that makes it work as a major sci-fi series~!^^'> |
| 100% biased but I like the Naruto ‘chakra’ system best. It’s just cool. |
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| I saw this and just wanted to say the Index series for sure. The way the powers are used is really interesting. |
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
| hunter x hunter by far. It has a very nice balance, the more power a character has the more hoops they have to jump through to use said power. |
| Three things come into my mind(Oh wait it's four whatever) 1. Everyone's favorite, HunterXHunter Nen Most detailed power system you could probably find in the entire manga/anime community. Even without the special power you can use by using Hatsu, there are so many variations of Nen you could use just by changing it's shape and size. And the creator explains all in the way that makes sense. The cons of this power system would be that it is too hard and long to understand the entire system, and it actually takes few episodes just to explain the "BASICS" of the Nen. 2. Full Metal Alchemist, Alchemy Alchemy is the ficitional power used in FMA. But it's basics are based on science, using chemistry and physics to layout the necessities of understanding the alchemy. For example, Roy Mustang uses Fire Alchemy, which to normies like us look like he's shooting fireballs out his snaps. But what he is actually doing is controlling the concentration of dust and air, which then he snaps to make dust explosion, resulting in explosion of the exact place where he wants it to be. Issac McDougal uses Ice Alchemy, which uses controlling the movement and temperature of water, which he can use it to boil or freeze the blood inside human body. Only thing that prevents this power inflation from going out of control is maintaining equivalent exchange. I don't quite see a lot of cons out of this power system. 3. Jojo, Stands Stands are the most popular superpower used in manga/anime community, since it has influenced so many superpower battle mangas since its introduction in 1989. Stand user can only have one stand. Each stand has unique ability and stats, which requires user's understanding of the way to use power and situation in order to win against the opponent. For example, Giorno Giovanna's stand is Gold Experience, which has an ability to imbue a life to lifeless thing, and he uses it to heal the wounds, track the enemy using heat by making a snake, and etc. Stands are more than who can blow stronger and faster punches, and they use a lot of knowledge and logics to turn the tables and defeat an opponent. Cons of this power system is that stats aren't absolute, and it needs a lot of knowledge to understand and fight against an enemy. Also, unlike many superpower animes, stands almost does not require growth and development in order to make them stronger. 4. Naruto, Chakra Chakra is the basic form of life energy that remains in ninjas. Before Naruto's power inflation went out of control, chakra was actually one of the power system that required a lot of strategies to fight against formidable enemies. Starting from 5 basic forms: fire, lightning, water, earth, wind, and making exceptions like shadow clone jutsu and ice style, ninjas in this world needed make most advantage of their specialties and figure out the secrets of others' jutsus, just like the battle of Naruto&Sasuke vs Haku or Kakashi vs Zabuza. Cons of this power system would be of course, power inflation by Naruto and Uchiha clan's Mangekyo Sharingans. My choice: Alchemy from FMA, FMAB |
| Even if I'm alone, I'll go, even if I want to die. I can hear your voice, saying I shouldn't die. Even if it's difficult, even if I cry from loneliness I can feel warmth from deep inside my heart. Going round-and-round and flowing, time is ever-changing. I can't remember what happened anymore, but If I try and close my eyes, I can hear someone's laughing voice For some reason, now, that is My Most Precious Treasure. from Ichiban no Takaramono, by LiSA |
 One Piece bounties for sure. You get a very specific number value that has a logical function in the one piece world. Of course this only applies to the pirates. The navy have their own military hierarchy and not easy to compare the two. It's also interesting that there is a lag between real strength increase and bounty recognition. Also interesting when the bounty underestimates the pirate, eg. Chopper, or overestimates, eg. Usopp. |
| General consensus say it is Hunter X Hunter. I am actually surprised HxH has not yet dominate this thread. |
"The Slave is the have-not, the oppressed one with nothing to spare. But because the Slave is in that despairing situation, having nothing, it can kill the Emperor !" |
| hxh easy, the most fleshed out and battles arent boring, followed by jojo, also very interesting battles. fmab would be higher if you're just counting basic alchemy but with the other countrys version of alchemy and the p stones it becomes a little iffy. toaru sounds interesting though. |
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| im a simple man so Demon Slayer with breathing makes you as strong as demons or become superhuman Can Breathing Like Wim Hof Make Us Superhuman? https://www.discovermagazine.com/health/can-breathing-like-wim-hof-make-us-superhuman we can dream lol but lol sucks if you got asthma if true though |
DeN11 said: I was also thinking Toaru, so I'll elaborate on it. Unlike other anime with a character that controls electricity (Enel, Killua, Hei, Naruto characters, and more), Misaka can do so much more then simply shoot electricity. She manipulate the electricity to create magnetic forces allowing her to stick and glide down metal building, vibrates metal sand to create a chainsaw like weapon, and uses a magnetic field created through electricity to shoot a Railgun projectile. The esper power system revolves around your general understanding of science and how to apply them while fighting, not just the destructive force. It's more of creative use of power from Misaka as a character, not speaking about power system itself. |
"The Slave is the have-not, the oppressed one with nothing to spare. But because the Slave is in that despairing situation, having nothing, it can kill the Emperor !" |
| I always liked Bleach power system the most. The entire concept of zanpakuto always fascinated me. |
| I’d say Hunter x Hunter, definitely. It’s very well thought, Togashi did a great job. |
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| Yawara. It's very simple, you train, you're good. Sure Yawara has talent and made an ippon to her father when she was 5 years old and she beat a soviet judoka who was certainly using medical drugs for gainig muscle, but the concept is good. |
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| Gintama has the best power system.It has none.You just fight and that's it. In most battle shounen the power system become redundant to the MCs.They can do whatever they want.It's even pointless to have one.The asspulls created by such is just ridiculous.The creators do whatever they want and give a clumsy explanation for it or the MC is just special. The only power system that justifies asspull is Nen from HxH.Togashi can use any asspull and claim it was Nen Vows.Kurapika and Gon defeated OP villains because of the concept of Nen Vows.It's well thought out.And the other types of nen are also explained properly. |
| Dragon Ball has the best one I can think of. |
Jim_Heart said: I think what he is saying that the power system is very grounded in science so the greater the user's knowledge of the sciences behind there ability the more they can do with it and that is what makes the power system interesting.DeN11 said: I was also thinking Toaru, so I'll elaborate on it. Unlike other anime with a character that controls electricity (Enel, Killua, Hei, Naruto characters, and more), Misaka can do so much more then simply shoot electricity. She manipulate the electricity to create magnetic forces allowing her to stick and glide down metal building, vibrates metal sand to create a chainsaw like weapon, and uses a magnetic field created through electricity to shoot a Railgun projectile. The esper power system revolves around your general understanding of science and how to apply them while fighting, not just the destructive force. It's more of creative use of power from Misaka as a character, not speaking about power system itself. |
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Adimus_prime said: Jim_Heart said: I think what he is saying that the power system is very grounded in science so the greater the user's knowledge of the sciences behind there ability the more they can do with it and that is what makes the power system interesting.It's more of creative use of power from Misaka as a character, not speaking about power system itself. Okay, I get the point. It is because Toaru is more a sci-fi than most superpower anime. I always liked Misaka's creative ways in using her power too by the way. To be honest, I am not really comfortable with power balance and ideas in Toaru, abilities like Accelerator, Teleporter and Meltdowner for example. -Accelerator for one basically has everyone abilities. -Teleportation is not far behind Accelerator in the term of overpowered, I seriously think that except for Accelerator, no one can beat a teleporter in one on one fight, ability wise. -For Meltdowner, I have a feeling that power description is because the author misunderstood real life physics. I can forgive the error if that is the power of a minor character, but it's always distraught me because it is the ability of 1 from only 7 seven Level 5s. |
"The Slave is the have-not, the oppressed one with nothing to spare. But because the Slave is in that despairing situation, having nothing, it can kill the Emperor !" |
| JOOOOJOOOOOOOOOO Both are great but Stands are just better. Change my mind. |
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Jim_Heart said: I was expecting Nen to be the one most people would say that and stands from JJBA.General consensus say it is Hunter X Hunter. I am actually surprised HxH has not yet dominate this thread. |
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SomeGuyWithHair said: I didn't get into to the magic side as much because I wasn't sure if I could explain that well but you explained it perfectly and I agree with ever you said about the magic aspect of Toaru.Index has the most fascinating power system I've seen yet. But everyone's talking about the Science side when the Magic side is more interesting, at least in my opinion. Now like Science, which is realistic and the processes that are possible can be done in real life, the Magic side is also realistic, not that magic is real, but the magic that is based on is what I'm talking about. Religion, angels, archangels, saints, aeons, thelema. It's really fascinating. The world of magic is so vast that it's so hard to know everything unlike Science which we have limited knowledge about. Now if you search thelema, you will see who made it, Aleister Crowley. In Index, that's the same Aleister Crowley except he built Academy City. I really love how Kamachi combined real life and fiction together to make this power system and amazing story. |
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| I tend to like the ones that allow for a lot of leeway like Saint Seiya, Fairy Tail or One Piece. They allow for the fights to have a lot of emotion and character development rather than weird gimmicks or math homework. |
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TinyG said: 345EdwardElric said: FullMetal Alchemist: Brotherhood and Hunter x Hunter (2011) comes to mind first. The whole power system based on alchemy & stuff in the world of FMA is grounded strongly by the laws & principles of Equivalent Exchange, which as a whole creates a strong sense of morality/justice prevailing over the alchemy/transmutation based power system, which doesn't leave much of a scope for asspulls or DEM power ups. While HxH has Nen which is one of the most well-detailed & well-explained shounen powers till date which makes many of battle look very sound, well executed & well thought. Though the reason why I wouldn't put it on the same level as FMA is because there are a few asspull/DEM power-up moments in the Greed Island which feels more like isekai powers rather than a well-explained shounen power. But other than that, it's perfect. I'm watching Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood as we speak, my one gripe is that they don't explore the alchemy in fights too much. Edward kinda just throws rocks and makes knives, that being said im like 15 episodes in so I still have alot to see. Well you're pretty early into the show now, so it's understandable why you'd think that way, but I can tell you that the the whole power system of alchemy/transmutations & the fundamental principles upon which it's based are explored soundly in detail throughout the whole show, not only during the fights even outside of them, plus the various usages + effects of different type/kinds of alchemy & different types of transmutations are also shown at several points throughout the show. You'll see it as you gradually go more into the show. |
| "There's no such thing as a painless lesson, they just don't exist. Sacrifices are necessary. You can't gain anything without losing something first. Although if you can endure that pain and walk away from it, you'll find that you now have a heart strong enough to overcome any obstacle. Yeah... a heart made full-metal." ~Edward Elric |
| I would say that number 1 for me is Hunter x Hunter 2011’s jen system. I just like the fact that you can make it anything you want and have drawbacks to make it overpowered. Number 2 for me is Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood, since I like that the alchemist’s alchemy reflects on their personality. Edward Elric, who likes to transmute metal due to his steel-like resolve to get Alphonse’s body back, Roy Mustang who has flames for his fiery resolve in justice, Kimblee who likes destruction. |
| hey I thought i'd had to correct something saying toaru but you came with that as well. |
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| The Nen from HunterxHunter is probably the best for a battle shounen type series considering the nature of it but I also really like Bleach's use of spiritual energy and the unique abilities of different characters. |
| Fate series for sure , command spell , temporarily body , angra mainyu , seven class , noble phantasm , it's so fun to learn these stuff. Death Note will be 2nd |
| Хайде, хайде, хайде, това е първата зона, брато, първа зона, първа зона, добре, добре, добре, това става тук горе, отива тук горе, само спокойно, само спокойно... Ха, отдясно е, навсякъде отдясно отдясно къде е дясното ти о да добре добре добре тихо мълчаливо не успях да се съсредоточа върху това ЕХ ТЪПАК КОГАТО СИ БАВНО БАВНО ... ой е путката на моето момиче прасе куче, аз Чувствам се добре, о, мамо, *шамар*, какво е това госпожице татко- |
| Fate Zero, Naruto, and Bleach. Don't really care for hunter x hunter's power system. |
| Probably Toaru, HxH is also a good choice. Both have fleshed out explanations to how the systems work. Personally I prefer Toaru simply because I appreciate the attempt of keeping it grounded to real life science and physics. How good you are is related to how well your understanding of science/math/physics is. I like that a lot more than "The essence in every living being" |
| "The world is not beautiful, therefore it is." -Kino's Journey |
| HxH, JoJo, One Piece and World Trigger. I simply like the sheer variety and thought put into their power systems and how the fights play out. |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
| basic asf answer but i really like what hunter x hunter did with nen, it took the simple to grasp concept of 'aura' and made it interesting, well-balanced and exciting |
| how tf r yall making such nice signatures |
| For me One Piece stuff in general its little mess, but anyway. |
| Nen from Hunter x Hunter and Stands from Jojo |
| the nen system is incredibly well written. everything makes sense and it's that hard to process. it's practially flawless. i've only seen railgun so i can't speak on the magic parts on the abilities but i love how scientific and well researched the abilities. you can tell the author properly researched and used literal science (or close enough) to writing practically realistic abilities. |
| Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken (I like that system) |
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zieek said: This was answer I wasn't expecting. I thought that power system was pretty interesting especially the naming part I had never seen something like that in an Isekai anime or any anime for that matter before watching Tensura.Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken (I like that system) |
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| Chkra honestly is ass. The more the show progresses the less sense it makes. Also the power system in Naruto is rigged every 10 episodes, so I have absolutely nothing but contempt for such cheap writing. Frankly, the system started out to have quite potential, but then pretty much nothing else was added and random shit just happened "because chkra". Quirk is the same. Idk man at least chkra seems much more creative. Wtf is quirk anyway? Such a convenient way to just do whatever you want. Also I've seen 9/10 people with sufficient animé knowledge say it's either Jojo's Stand, or HxH Nen, or both. I'd say it'd be Nen coz I haven't watched Jojo. The rest are shit for me. |
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Adimus_prime said: zieek said: This was answer I wasn't expecting.Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken (I like that system) Thanks I just wrote how Ihonestly felt. To be honest the system in D,Gray-Man is also pretty cool. The "Tatakau Shisho: The Book of Bantorra" anime also has an awesome system. And lastly "Zettai Karen Children: The Unlimited - Hyoubu Kyousuke" has such an epik system. Watch these anime guys, you won't be sorry. |
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| I really like the entire zanpakuto and kidō system in Bleach. Nen from HxH is a very close second. |
| I will join in the toaru power system. |
| Haki, Nen, Devil Fruits, ODM gear, Noble Phantasms, and Breathing itself |
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| The power level system in the Nanoha franchise is probably the one I'm most familiar with. The basic scale measures a character's raw magical output, though it doesn't account for skill or versatility of its use, so someone with a lower rank isn't necessarily at a disadvantage. There are also the magical capabilities of bioengineered cyborgs, called Inherent Skills, which can be ranked similarly. |
| Avatar character is Gabriel from Gabriel DropOut. |
| the stands from Jojos. it´s the only thing I like about it, though. |
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