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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Well I guess feelings aren't always easy to maintain especially in the presence of certain individuals. I see Shinako still has a lot on her mind and even recalling more of her past in memories. Good thing we got a Christmas party theme episode to celebrate the occasion even though the episode is kinda moody. |
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| Looks like it will be a lonely Christmas, I think Haru will wait for Rikuo any longer. Look at that Santa costume ... so cute. It seems like Shinako recalls the past with Rikuo. The party seemed lively, I thought love was a complicated thing. Even though Rikuo wanted to stay away from Shinako, the memories always left her with pepper, no wonder he was still in love with her, because first love is the most difficult thing to remove. But I'm more interested in this gift ...  |
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| With this we are halfway through the series, really loving it so far and hope the second half is as good as the first or even better. Pretty fun episode, Shinako ended up coming after all and ofc that's where the episode ends lol. The short backstory was pretty nice. |
MegamiRemJun 2, 2020 4:55 AM
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| Today’s ep had a lot of anime original content. The general theme of the episode stayed consistent between the manga and the anime, like things getting awkward between Rui and Shinako causing her to leave early and go to the party. But there was no drawing scene in the manga, Rui had made another comment which made her uncomfortable. The answer is No, queen. But it’s very difficult and honestly rarely worth it. https://imgur.com/a/1VRyIap Just have to take some time and say how much I appreciate Uozumi’s seiyuu’s performance. His voice sounds very realistic, enhances the immersion in the story a lot and does a great job of bringing one of my favourite mangas to life. Sometimes a story will be really good, but the seiyuu’s give very anime-ish performances with the high pitched and over the top voices. But every time he talks it feels like a real conversation. The MC from Boku dake ga inai machi was similar. We’re now halfway through which kinda saddens me, but we’ve got a lot left too :) |
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| Halfway in, and the show is going strong as ever! I’m still going to keep up with the cautious 8 for now in case but it’s been a fascinating first half nonetheless. Haru-chan is falling deeper into a slumber and that’s really tough to see, honestly. Moving on from this seems like the best option no doubt, she really deserves happiness. The lady at her workplace seems like a really nice Senpai too, I’m looking forward to more of her. Shinako, on the other hand, is starting to feel things. I wonder where this is building up to. Rou’s friend trying to dismiss any “love-ly” idea was hilarious, by the way. I can’t wait to see what’s going to happen next week, that wasn’t a nice cliffhanger at all. Fight, Rikou! |
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| Is Shinako the real MC or what ? She's getting on my nerves ! The capital sins "Greed" is her real name. |
| "I don't remember why we became close, but the more we did, the harder it became to tell her I liked her." Ah, such a familiar situation-- I can't help but make a stupid grin at Rikuo's infatuation, and the very awkward conversation with Shinako shortly after. It's such a treat to see things like this; more of this please.  Haru's being put in a low point again, but Rikuo's slowly realizing that she and him are not so different. Aside from the cliffhanger and the bad vibes that I get from Rou scenes, this episode was really good. Here's to another long week of waiting. |
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| At this point they should remove Haru from the show ,no need to drag her on,also annoying female MC confirmed,no need for a forced love triangle |
IzayoiSk said: Of course she is the MC,havent you watched the ED?Is Shinako the real MC or what ? She's getting on my nerves ! The capital sins "Greed" is her real name. |
justlynn6785 said: I agree with you,Everything seems predictable at this point,still half of the show left,i wonder what they gonna do with thatAnnnnnd my dislike for Shinako grows with each episode. She knows she is being selfish, has called her own self out for doing it, but yet keeps rolling on with it, dragging Uozumi along. Sure, let’s go show up at a cozy couples party to see a guy I’ve totally friend-zoned, even though I know he’s in love with me, has said he’ll wait for me, and I’ve rejected him more than once. Got nothing better to do since it’s only 8:00, so that sounds like a nice way to spend Christmas, right? Honestly, I like Haru, but she’s better off moving on at this point, too. I’m generally a person who loves romance in a show, but I don’t ship any of these couples anymore. My favorite character is now the lady waitress who works with Haru. She’s the only one giving genuinely good advice. |
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| "The future is always blank. Only your willpower can leave footsteps there." "Ruling over death means ruling over life. Death is the climax of life. To have the best death, you must honor life." |
We're halfway through... 9 more episodes... Yay... |
| "We could make the world better, but it's easier to just shut our eyes." ~Blackwall |
| Right now Shinako is being very indecisive and selfish because she doesn't want to be alone but both Rou-kun and Rikuo have feelings for her which makes it more complicated. Rikuo is in a very realistic situation especially with Shinako being the first person he liked. Rikuo kept getting closer to her so that made it harder for him to tell Shinako how he felt. Haru-chan should probably just move on from Rikuo because it is putting her in a really dark place right now. She should listen to the girl where she works because she really deserves happiness. We may be halfway done with this anime but we got another half to go and there are more interesting things to come. |
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| I hate Shitnako. She doesn't deserve so much screen time. I love Haru. She deserve much more screen time. It's already a half and plot still stopped almost at the beginning, nothing changes. The characters literally do nothing to change anything. Is this gonna continue until the end? I am already ready to start hating.  |
| Can't decide if I actually like or dislike this series. So slow-paced, sometimes that's a bit irritating but it also makes it more real. Wonder what the end will be, who ends up with who, though I guess that's not the main point. It's about how get on with life. And the process matters. Still, Rou is such a lovable little thing!! I want him happy. But maybe not with Shinako. I'm starting to think that noone will end up with anyone, because if that's what to happen, and the characters would really love each other, it'd have happened already... But still I wonder. |
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| I agree with what most ppl are saying about Shinako being kinda a terrible person etc, but man can we get an F in the chat for Rou being alone on Christmas. |
antohachan said: It's already a half and plot still stopped almost at the beginning, nothing changes. The characters literally do nothing to change anything. Is this gonna continue until the end? I am already ready to start hating. Kind of a crummy point where we literally see in this episode Shinako now standing her guard when it comes to Rou, establishing clear borders. Rikuo finally had the guts to ask Shinako out in a christmas party, or even invite her inside his home despite being an accident. Then Shinako, although in the last minute, actually reconsidered Rikuo's invitation which is a very big deal in itself as to how Christmas Eve is treated in Japanese culture. Come on man; just because Haru's not in the spotlight, it doesn't mean that nothing's changing. |
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rsc-pl said: I just hope that these "clear borders" aren't "established" because she's starting to feel something towards Rou (or rather his older brother that she often sees in him) Though it seems like she's indulging herself with Rou by participating in his christmas game and cooking for him multiple times, smiling and such; she had the right idea to book it when she realized that things were getting raunchy and have romantic implications. Which says to me that she appropriately distances herself from Rou and will only entertain him when it's only family treatment. I hope I'm not deluding myself here because I swear to God if Shinako finds his way to Rou with the power of sheer BS, I will share your sentiments. |
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ToraiS said: Rikuo finally had the guts to ask Shinako out in a christmas party, or even invite her inside his home despite being an accident. You didn't forget that he already confessed to her, don't you? That was the hardest thing, not these. |
snowman_builder said: Can't decide if I actually like or dislike this series. So slow-paced, sometimes that's a bit irritating but it also makes it more real. Wonder what the end will be, who ends up with who, though I guess that's not the main point. It's about how get on with life. And the process matters. Still, Rou is such a lovable little thing!! I want him happy. But maybe not with Shinako. I'm starting to think that noone will end up with anyone, because if that's what to happen, and the characters would really love each other, it'd have happened already... But still I wonder. It makes it seem TOO real. I can't help but feel exactly what Rikuo is feeling since i've been in his position for about 5 years now, and it really is sweet and very sour at the same time. For some reason i can't watch this show unless it is very late at night. |
| It's amazing how this show is adapting 6-7 chapters per episode but I still feel like the episode goes absolutely nowhere. Maybe cause with the manga I read at a generally fast pace so I enjoyed it without pacing issues but this was a fucking drag with the anime, and its not the first episode I feel this way with this show. |
| Rou apologizes realizing that he was too intrusive, a wise choice. Does Shinako start making strange thoughts about him and hurry away from home? Rikuo is nonsense, is good for him to be Shinako's friend, but he prefer otherwise with Haru(and in my opinion he begins to understand that he was wrong in the scene where he looks at the old photos of the university). Poor thing, Haru wants to see him so much. |
antohachan said: ToraiS said: Rikuo finally had the guts to ask Shinako out in a christmas party, or even invite her inside his home despite being an accident. You didn't forget that he already confessed to her, don't you? That was the hardest thing, not these. He confessed and got rejected, then he knew why he got rejected. Just because he did get rejected doesn't mean that he's absolved of all his feelings for Shinako. Contrary to popular belief, confessing is easy, but the aftermath is the hard part. It's why people are afraid of confessing in the first place. ElleryK said: To me Shinako is still the same, she doesn't understand that going out of her way to cook for Yu's family is part of the problem. Rou's comment was really dumb, but what is he supposed to think when she smiles at him and tells him she wants to cook for him forever ? 1 step forward, 3 steps back, basically. Shinako's primary reason to going to Rou's place is taking care of Rou and his father because they're like family to her. It's an understandable reason. It's just that Rou is a horny teen and every affirmative action that Shinako takes is considered a sign that she's in love with him. If Shinako's just a sisterly figure to Rou, we'd probably be singing a different tune. ElleryK said: Her going to the party because she has to kill time, is it any different than her going to Rikuo everytime she feels miserable ? Sure it seems like a wishy-washy afterthought that she decided to go to the party that Rikuo's in, but consider that she got invited by Rou first; courtesy and such. Though she promptly booked their sad little christmas party once family went out to the picture by "smooth" lines by Rou. It's different this time because Shinako was given a choice. She could have easily stayed and risked being in a risque situation with Rou, or spend the christmas eve with Rikuo which is also a risque situation. Albeit late to the party, she picked the latter which speaks growth from her indecisive self. |
ToraiSMay 30, 2020 4:40 PM
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| The whole deal between Shinako and Rou is getting a bit frustrating. I understand that Rou and his father are like family to her, but she knows how he feels, and I'm not sure if she is being clear enough that she doesn't see him like that. At least I don't think that she does, despite the awkwardness, right now. She is still gravitating towards Rikuo after all. She took him food, she remembers about something that he doesn't, and fortunately she ended up going to Fukuda's Christmas Party in the end. I still find myself rooting for Shinako and Rikuo to get together, so it probably won't happen lol, but it does feel bad to see Haru like that. |
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| oh man, Haru getting more and more faded away as this progresses. Can we get a Taka and his wife spin off lel ProofByColor said: I agree with what most ppl are saying about Shinako being kinda a terrible person etc, but man can we get an F in the chat for Rou being alone on Christmas. at least he managed to sneak in that cringy smooth line though. Only forgot to do the accompanying finger guns |
 'On-Hold' is another way for a completionist to say 'Dropped' |
| Just realised that Rou and Shinako are voiced by Kaneki and Rize voice actors. |
| Again not much from Haru... We need some more scenes with her again. Why is there so much hate on Shinako? In my opinion she really isn't a bad person. She cares about the people next to her although it is kinda awkward. The only thing she has done is sending the guys into the friendzone where everything is uncomfortable... But that doesn't make her a bad person... |
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| Time passes fast in this anime. At the start of the episode was the middle of October. By the end of the episode was already the ending of December. No wonder Haru was feeling so defeated during that day, she had no news about Rikuo all that time. And talking about time... I don't know. It's just me forgetting things or the anime is changing little bits as much as it's cutting? I don't remember Rou making a portrait of Shinako like that. But one thing for sure... they cut THAT character. Maybe I can still keep a little hope burning for the next episode, because can imagine that with Shinako leaving so early Rou will go to the Art School's christimas party, and he'll meet Haru there making a delivery for Kyouko's friend. With the two there in that party there's still a little chace that SHE will appear.  But anyway... THat scene with the portrait... did you noticed? One thing that this anime is putting a lot of effort in corporal animation, giving each character their own clear personality. This pays back in scenes like that, with moments between characters that knows each other well enough that they don't need to spoke to communicate. That whole scene had a lot of that, just silence and the characters moving, beautiful.  EDIT: This episode had an extra. My optimistic prevision failed!  The anime will really cut that minor character, along with everything else, and if things continue this way maybe it'll even do the "impossible" and cut the model. |
PaninaManinaMay 30, 2020 7:15 PM
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| A bit of a slower episode this week with not much happening. Shinako finally taking a step forward by showing up to Fukudas’s party...with all the walking home with Rikuo she’s had, it’s about damn time she stepped up. Really hope there’s more Haru in the next episodes though. I can definitely see Haru still in the running though, I think Rikuo also misses her presence although he’d probably never admit it. As an end note, Kyouko and Kinoshita really have such a wealth of wisdom to their characters, I love how their advice helps the main characters sort out their feelings (ie. Kinoshita in Ep 1 with Rikuo and now Kyouko in this episode with Haru). |
| eh not bad i guess, this definitely feels more like a regular SOL anime this time around, with people celebrating Christmas and what not. Feels bad for Haru, getting left in the dust while Rikuo and Shinako have a nice night with one another probs. Guess it was meant to be ;-; |
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| None of these characters are direct except for Haru. I'm glad glad Haru is keeping her distance and to be honest, I don't even like her. None of these characters are my favorite. In the beginning i like Rou because he was kind of mysterious but now that we got to know him better, I'm like meh. He's stale. They all have their flaws and they're all equally annoying tbh. Where are my side characters at? Like Rikuo's ex-girlfriend and the photographer who had a crush on Haru? Those people were way more interesting. |
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| Ngl the series is getting redundant, don’t get me wrong, I’ve enjoyed it a lot so far but literally every episode has the same tropes. artsy boy like girl, girl doesn’t like artsy boy(romantically), best girl likes guy, guy doesn’t like best girl. Best girl-Awww imma pout about guy not liking me Girl-uwu might like guy Then this just repeats over and over. Also, I literally couldn’t give less fucks about shinako and artsy boy story arc |
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Dorian20 said: It makes it seem TOO real. I can't help but feel exactly what Rikuo is feeling since i've been in his position for about 5 years now, and it really is sweet and very sour at the same time. For some reason i can't watch this show unless it is very late at night. During the day, the light shines fiercely, requiring us to wear our masks, but when the night comes, it kindly masks us itself and thereby sets us free. On a serious note, my impression was that Shinako ran away from Rou because she was starting to feel something for him. Her running was an attempt to nip it in the bud. Only time will tell if she was successful. I also loved Rikuo's realization of the parallels between his feelings for Shinako and Haru's feelings for him. While that subplot was also not resolved this episode, I think that they'll at least be able to progress toward friendship in the short term as a result of his realization. You can tell he isn't holding hard feeling for Haru because he doesn't react negatively to realizing that she had been waiting for him. |
| Every day you can read a book or watch some anime is a good day! |
| The Christmas Carol arc, a very low-key arc, but still an important one as this adolescent journey goes. Shinako having known Rou's personality and his advances towards her, it seems that all of this is a fad. The love that she reciprocates is one of family-like, but NEVER one of mutual love. Despite that, I can't help but feel wishy-washy feelings of her being content with just friendship, the harsh memories lingering as she goes around her daily activities. Their in-house moment was kinda cute and charmy NGL, but the "love is in the air" moments really prompt her as a stopping point. As for Haru, her advances towards Rikuo are still at a standstill, but she's not giving up just yet, despite declaring war against Shinako in the beginning. And getting advice from co-worker Kyouko about maintaining a distance, in comparison to her own aggressive stance of making love come true, it's a decision that's both as easy, but hard to make. In the case of Rikuo, being saved by best bud Fukuda is a godsend that parallels his passion to a better job. On the love side of things, his memories of Shinako lingers heavily in his mind. And the small Christmas party, Shinako shows up unannounced, how will things ensue? |
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dlxuniuniu said: coz she's in the way of their fav ship haruxrikou. :> sersly tho, it's not her fault 2 guys like her. she tries to let go of the past and sees rikou dif than before ... wondering how he feels about haru etc. so shes progressing, but very slowly. seems like she's pissing people of coz she cant decide what she wants, how she feels, but it takes time. she's the piece dat has to move for the progression of the story, but she's makin one forward two backwards. I can see why people dislike her. :p SHE'S COMPLICATED EEEEW! Why is there so much hate on Shinako? In my opinion she really isn't a bad person. She cares about the people next to her although it is kinda awkward. The only thing she has done is sending the guys into the friendzone where everything is uncomfortable... But that doesn't make her a bad person... |
| boring like nothing happen! 3/5. |
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| Rou with that a little too smooth line, I think Shinako did the right thing there and leave. Surprised she would show up at Fukuda's place! Rikuo realized what he did to Haru was wrong when going through his college photos! I feel there's still hope for the Haru shippers! Not much happened this episode, but Haru in that christmas getup was the best thing this whole episode!! Watching the extra scene was hella worth it, just a shame these extra scenes aren't added to the original episodes, like added as a post-credit scene :( |
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