| https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/2167020001 So yeah, this actually occurred. And let’s get the facts right....this was orchestrated by Far-Right idiots who wanted to bash gays and Promote Trump. |
| As a straight man, I'm completely disappointed in this. It's completely disrespectful to people throughout history who were threatened, attacked, or even killed for not being straight. |
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| Shit, if I didn't have a job I would have went myself. I would have worn my mighty penis hat. Except, you know, I am like a MacGyver Fascist. I would have rigged that hat to spray pepper spray into the crowd after I stroked it enthusiastically. Very symbolic. |
SoverignSep 4, 2019 12:40 AM
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| I don't see anything wrong with it unless you hate straights. The protestors were stupid, they should have just ignored it but now they have shown the world their massive hypocrisy. |
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| Imagine being proud of something that requires no effort on your part. |
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Scud said: Imagine being proud of something that requires no effort on your part. lol relevant comment Ocasio-Cortez on Straight Pride: “Seems More Like a ‘I-Struggle-With-Masculinity’ Parade to Me” https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/09/ocasio-cortez-straight-pride-parade-struggle-with-masculinity.html |
Scud said: Imagine being proud of something that requires no effort on your part. So it takes effort to be gay? I thought they say there were born that way.... and please gay people are the most vain and prideful people on the planet. HYPOCRISY! |
| Once pride was the sin and humility the virtue. Were people always this self-obsessed? |
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QPR said: I don't see anything wrong with it unless you hate straights. The protestors were stupid, they should have just ignored it but now they have shown the world their massive hypocrisy. There is no hypocrisy, do you understand why gay prideses event exist? They are literally built on the blood of LGBT people. Anime-is-King said: Scud said: Imagine being proud of something that requires no effort on your part. So it takes effort to be gay? Given it's illegal in many parts of the world, in some others you don't have rights, and many religions straight up tell people gay people go to hell, and until like and gay people still have to fight for respect to this very days in many parts of the world, I would say yes? |
Lux_Lucis said: Seygneur said: Once pride was the sin and humility the virtue. Were people always this self-obsessed?  Are virtues even relevant in this day and age? Lux_Lucis said: Seygneur said: Once pride was the sin and humility the virtue. Were people always this self-obsessed? Are virtues even relevant in this day and age? Gay pride doesn't even have anything to do with actual pride... |
Bernrika said: Given it's illegal in many parts of the world, in some others you don't have rights, and many religions straight up tell people gay people go to hell, and until like and gay people still have to fight for respect to this very days in many parts of the world, I would say yes? Yet all these gay pride event take place in the west. I don't see why anyone would be proud of being gay, straight, white, black, left or right handed or ginger. Especially as none of them are a choice. It strikes me as really pathetic, especially the respect part when there are protests at a straight pride event but none at a gay pride event. We get it, you're gay, no one cares. I will treat them like I would a match for anything like I listed above. |
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Are you implying the LGBT people in the west don't suffer discrimination? Gay marriage wasn't legalized in the USA until some years ago, in many European states it still is illegal, gay conversation therapy is still legal in many countries and religions is still very much a thing. Conservative parents who kick their child for being gay still exist, they didn't stop existing because... reasons? Beside, how can gay people in Rome or Berlin or New York march for gay people in Saudi Arabia? Go there and hope they don't get killed? I don't see why anyone would be proud of being gay, straight, white, black, left or right handed or ginger. Especially as none of them are a choice. Actual pride has nothing to do with pride. It exists because gay people can't go one week without having to deal with homophobia, they fought (and still are fighting) for their rights, often have to escape crappy backgrounds if they come from conservative households that won't accept them and generally life is harder if you are the 5% compared to the 95%. They also exist as a celebration of how far LGBT rights have come, google Stonewall. It strikes me as really pathetic, especially the respect part when there are protests at a straight pride event but none at a gay pride event. Because you don't understand what gay pride is about, it's a bunch of minorities coming together to celebrate their right to exist. Straight people were never oppressed (for their sexuality, inb4 someone moves the goalpost) and didn't have to fight with their blood for their right. Also if you actually took a look at the rally, it was a bunch of Trump supporters marching for their president, implying gay people are abnormal (In the negative connotation of it) and pretending their are oppressed. We get it, you're gay, no one cares I'm not gay, but given what I know from my work and my friends I'm pretty sure a lot of people care, often in negative ways. |
BernrikaSep 4, 2019 2:34 AM
Imagine getting outraged by a Milo meme in 2019. |
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Bernrika said: QPR said: Are you implying the LGBT people in the west don't suffer discrimination? Gay marriage wasn't legalized in the USA until some years ago, in many European states it still is illegal, gay conversation therapy is still legal in many countries and religions is still very much a thing. Conservative parents who kick their child for being gay still exist, they didn't stop existing because... reasons?Yet all these gay pride event take place in the west. People were once killed for owning books as well. Should we have a book reader parade because of that reason? What about the people who were tortured for not believing in a god? Do we need an atheist parade for them? Or, maybe people could just move on with their lives and be happy they can do or believe in what they want now and not make a big fuss about it. I know, it's a crazy thought. People will do bad things to each other, regardless of whether there's a parade somewhere in the world or not. |
| Heh they are allowed their 'pride' parade and I'm allowed to think it's one of the most stupid things I've seen all year. Milo is really desperate for that spotlight again, isn't he? He's a living meme at this point. Goddamn. |
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Anime-is-King said: it doesn't take effort to BE gay, it takes effort to live as a gay person in a society where some people still don't view you as being fully equal.Scud said: Imagine being proud of something that requires no effort on your part. So it takes effort to be gay? I thought they say there were born that way.... and please gay people are the most vain and prideful people on the planet. HYPOCRISY! The same isn't true for straight people. No hypocrisy there. QPR said: Straight pride is a movement that exists in opposition to the constant shaming and discrimination that gay people face. It's a movement for civil rights and equal treatment.Bernrika said: Given it's illegal in many parts of the world, in some others you don't have rights, and many religions straight up tell people gay people go to hell, and until like and gay people still have to fight for respect to this very days in many parts of the world, I would say yes? Yet all these gay pride event take place in the west. I don't see why anyone would be proud of being gay, straight, white, black, left or right handed or ginger. Especially as none of them are a choice. It strikes me as really pathetic, especially the respect part when there are protests at a straight pride event but none at a gay pride event. We get it, you're gay, no one cares. I will treat them like I would a match for anything like I listed above. The message is as follows: "we won't allow others to shame us for who we are, we are proud (as opposed to ashamed) for being gay." That's the narrative. What straight pride does is to misrepresent the movement on purpose to push a homophobic agenda instead. Straight prides message is this: "gay people are conceited for wanting to be the only ones that can be proud of their sexuality! Look they are even protesting against us! Straight people can be proud too!" Except as we just established, gay pride isn't about that at all. Gay pride is about opposition to being shamed. Now stop and think for a second. Who benefits from having the narrative changed from "gay people rally for equal treatment and civil rights" to "gay people are conceited and we should be proud for being straight"? THINK. What is the narrative that you are pushing right now? You are being manipulated. |
| "my life at this state could be transposed into a pretty massive biography" - Cneq, "the guy who was literally using BTC in 2012 to make deals in the first main instance of a digital itemized economy forming naturally in all human history (also the precursor of NFTs) and who had 20k+ total trades.", 23 years old MAL's most prolific antivaxxer, Noboru. |
Railey2 said: .THINK. What is the narrative that you are pushing right now? You are being manipulated. No I am not, I have mentioned several times how retarded the US right wing is. Pride events just piss people off and have the exact opposite effect, eventually it will become like the blacks and whites in the US or the left and right wingers where the country will be irreversibly split. I don't care if anyone is gay, but I will if all the do is bang on about it then it will just piss me off, you know how a vegan has to tell everyone they are a vegan and everyone just groans. |
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| Imagine feeling oppressed because you are straight. Manbabies at their finest. |
Zoldra0 said: Imagine feeling oppressed because you are straight. Manbabies at their finest. People have won court cases for being straight, one recently where a man was not accepted to the police for because he was a straight male. He won his discrimination case and was illegally oppressed. |
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QPR said: I'm amazed this wasn't discussed in depth on MAL with a reliable source.Zoldra0 said: Imagine feeling oppressed because you are straight. Manbabies at their finest. People have won court cases for being straight, one recently where a man was not accepted to the police for because he was a straight male. He won his discrimination case and was illegally oppressed. |
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Scud said: QPR said: I'm amazed this wasn't discussed in depth on MAL with a reliable source.People have won court cases for being straight, one recently where a man was not accepted to the police for because he was a straight male. He won his discrimination case and was illegally oppressed. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/police-white-heterosexual-male-discrimination-job-cheshire-matthew-furlong-a8793331.html https://www.itv.com/news/2019-02-22/police-force-discriminated-against-white-heterosexual-male-tribunal-rules/ https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-47335859 It happened but we aren't like Trumpers where we would bang on about it for months. |
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QPR said: People have won court cases for being straight, one recently where a man was not accepted to the police for because he was a straight male. He won his discrimination case and was illegally oppressed. Being straight is still the norm. People are being murdered for being LGBT. "Straight parades" is manbabying 101. |
GatesOfOblivion said: I don't think you understand. They're not manbabying. They're probably trying to make a mockery out of LGBT's parades and counter them. It was bound to happen eventually. They wanted the march banned so they could say they are worse off than gays, the Trumpers tried it when the big baby Trump balloon was flown. They said they were going to fly a Khan balloon thinking it would be banned but it wasn't. Everyone should be treated equally so all were correctly allowed. |
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| The American Far-Right: Insecure, mostly White males, who unironically believe that being White, Straight, Christian, and non-Trans are being oppressed in the United States by the Evil Leftists...meanwhile the current President, Senate, and Supreme Court are all on their side on the political spectrum. Oh and the majority of shootings and domestic terrorism are perpetrated by people who share their beliefs. |
GatesOfOblivion said: Except they are. Last i checked, straight people are not under any oppression. They are the default sexuality type on earth. So unless i been under a rock and heterophobia did somehow escalate enough to warrant this, i see no good reason for this parade's existence. I see no point in any of them, but there you are admitting gays should be treated better than everyone else. That is exactly what I am against and it's no different to not allowing gays to do something. It's bigoted and will set back gays more than you can imagine. |
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Zoldra0 said: You do realize this entire discussion is about the west? There are literally 0 gays being killed in the west just for being gay. I know you probably want to sound bombastic that "oooh LGBT people are getting killed left and right! the humanity!" but this is entirely false in western countries and makes anything you say questionable. You probably know well enough most of the killings happen in middle eastern, african and asian countries but you leave that out to suit your argument. Yikes.QPR said: People have won court cases for being straight, one recently where a man was not accepted to the police for because he was a straight male. He won his discrimination case and was illegally oppressed. Being straight is still the norm. People are being murdered for being LGBT. "Straight parades" is manbabying 101. |
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--ALEX-- said: Oy vey, Alex. No thread is ever complete without your inane ramblings about how Milo is literally Richard Spencer is literally Donald Trump is literally Hitler is literally Satan is literally Cthulhu is literally Dinesh D'Souza.The American Far-Right: Insecure, mostly White males, who unironically believe that being White, Straight, Christian, and non-Trans are being oppressed in the United States by the Evil Leftists...meanwhile the current President, Senate, and Supreme Court are all on their side on the political spectrum. Oh and the majority of shootings and domestic terrorism are perpetrated by people who share their beliefs. |
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GatesOfOblivion said: QPR said: I see no point in any of them, but there you are admitting gays should be treated better than everyone else. No no. This is not how we're going to go about this. I won't tolerate placing words into my mouth that i have not said. Everyone is equal. We're all but human. The key difference is that straight people are NOT in need of a movement's help. If you are saying they should have a parade for a parade's sake. That is still going to undermine the validity of the LGBT's pride parade. There needs to be a good reason for the things we do. GatesOfOblivion said: QPR said: I see no point in any of them, but there you are admitting gays should be treated better than everyone else. No no. This is not how we're going to go about this. I won't tolerate placing words into my mouth that i have not said. Everyone is equal. We're all but human. The key difference is that straight people are NOT in need of a movement's help. If you are saying they should have a parade for a parade's sake. That is still going to undermine the validity of the LGBT's pride parade. There needs to be a good reason for the things we do. GatesOfOblivion said: Says everyone is equal then immediately throws one of these out there:QPR said: I see no point in any of them, but there you are admitting gays should be treated better than everyone else. No no. This is not how we're going to go about this. I won't tolerate placing words into my mouth that i have not said. Everyone is equal. We're all but human. The key difference is that straight people are NOT in need of a movement's help. If you are saying they should have a parade for a parade's sake. That is still going to undermine the validity of the LGBT's pride parade. There needs to be a good reason for the things we do. "That is still going to undermine the validity of the LGBT's pride parade." So straight people can't have a parade but LGBT people can because they deserve it more? Yikes. |
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| From what I've seen of gay pride parades, they can be pretty cringey. I'm doubtful about the overall positive effects they provide for themselves. Straight pride parades are the equivalent of child yelling because they want attention. You can't even justify it with a false sense of oppression. It's just self-indulgent attention whoring. |
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Cneq said: You do realize this entire discussion is about the west? There are literally 0 gays being killed in the west just for being gay. I know you probably want to sound bombastic that "oooh LGBT people are getting killed left and right! the humanity!" but this is entirely false in western countries and makes anything you say questionable. You probably know well enough most of the killings happen in middle eastern, african and asian countries but you leave that out to suit your argument. Yikes. You really need to check facts before you claim there are 0 hate crimes against LGBT people in the west. Your whataboutism reeks of ignorance and desperation. Yikes. |
| Yikes so many bigoted heterophobic people in this thread. I am disappointed in you, MAL. |
Zoldra0 said: I said killing, not a single thing about generalized hate crimes. For someone who claims I'm ignorant and desperate you sure know how to look desperate yourself by argueing against a point no one even spoke about.Cneq said: You do realize this entire discussion is about the west? There are literally 0 gays being killed in the west just for being gay. I know you probably want to sound bombastic that "oooh LGBT people are getting killed left and right! the humanity!" but this is entirely false in western countries and makes anything you say questionable. You probably know well enough most of the killings happen in middle eastern, african and asian countries but you leave that out to suit your argument. Yikes. You really need to check facts before you claim there are 0 hate crimes against LGBT people in the west. Your whataboutism reeks of ignorance and desperation. Yikes. |
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QPR said: "I am not pushing homophobic narratives but [gay pride is just gays attention-whoring like everyone knows you're gay jeez can you please stop]"Railey2 said: .THINK. What is the narrative that you are pushing right now? You are being manipulated. No I am not, I have mentioned several times how retarded the US right wing is. Pride events just piss people off and have the exact opposite effect, eventually it will become like the blacks and whites in the US or the left and right wingers where the country will be irreversibly split. I don't care if anyone is gay, but I will if all the do is bang on about it then it will just piss me off, you know how a vegan has to tell everyone they are a vegan and everyone just groans. Even better: ["Gays rallying for civil rights and equal treatment will just split the country in two irreversible (they should just stop!)"] Do you really not see it? The things you're saying is exactly what homophobes want the public to believe about gay people. 1) they are loud and obnoxious 2) them wanting equal treatment hurts the country 3) them wanting rights infringes on your rights THAT is the narrative that straight pride is pushing, and you're 100% playing into it. I believe you that it's unintentional, but you really gotta pay more attention to what you're saying man. Don't be a useful idiot. |
| "my life at this state could be transposed into a pretty massive biography" - Cneq, "the guy who was literally using BTC in 2012 to make deals in the first main instance of a digital itemized economy forming naturally in all human history (also the precursor of NFTs) and who had 20k+ total trades.", 23 years old MAL's most prolific antivaxxer, Noboru. |
Cneq said: I said killing, not a single thing about generalized hate crimes. For someone who claims I'm ignorant and desperate you sure know how to look desperate yourself by argueing against a point no one even spoke about. You really should check facts regardless, since these hatecrimes also include killings. |
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