Fire Force
| I am not watching this anime, and I don't think I will ever watch it. The synopsis doesn't interest me so I haven' even watched episode 1. I have heard pretty bad reviews and criticisms from my friend and also apparently on MAL's forums. Yet it is scored in the high 7s which is pretty high for MAL. But a lot of people on MAL seem to also criticize it a lot..? Of course it could be a vocal minority, but you don't see the same heavy criticism on other series that is still airing. So something must be different with this one. I'm a bit confused on whats going on. Just curious. |
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zcv45 said: I am not watching this anime, and I don't think I will ever watch it. The synopsis doesn't interest me so I haven' even watched episode 1. I have heard pretty bad reviews and criticisms from my friend and also apparently on MAL's forums. Yet it is scored in the high 7s which is pretty high for MAL. But a lot of people on MAL seem to also criticize it a lot..? Of course it could be a vocal minority, but you don't see the same heavy criticism on other series that is still airing. So something must be different with this one. I'm a bit confused on whats going on. Just curious. It's your standard battle shounen with a bit of a different setting and fun flashy fights. People are complaining about the direction and some so called "weird pauses" but I don't see any serious issues. Like it's not the first anime with pauses like that and I even haven't noticed them until people begun to talk - not an actual problem. It's an OK title and a score of 7/10 seems right for it. (Well I am giving it lesser score but I don't value battle shounen.) |
| MAL ratings are generous. Most people generally give an episode 5 stars for entertaining them even slightly. That's why most anime seem to fall in the 7 - 8 range on MAL. If it reaches the 9s its generally outstanding but if its in the 6s then its usually flat out garbage. Fire Force began in the 8s and fell week after week till now where its in the high 7s. It's doing "OK" by MAL standard. As in, most people enjoy it but it doesn't satisfy the people who expected more. |
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| To read MAL reviews is a waste of time and effort. If you check every popular or moderately popular anime of the last few seasons you will notice a small group of users spewing the most popular negative opinion and getting upvoted to the top by the people that hate said anime for the most frivolous reasons; and there is no way to counter that constant stream of shitty reviews as they removed the "not helpful" option. |
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| 7.8 in mal standards is generally fine and that’s what this show is. Most episodes you’ll find elitists hating it mainly due to the directing directing which I’m not a fan of myself, but the shounen fanboys will generally eat it up. It’s not by any means disappointing, it just lacks the spice that a few other shows this season have. Another reason is mainly the basic plot but I’ve read the manga and it does get better, people are just gonna have to wait and see. |
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BlakexEkalb said: I mean Shield Hero is in the 8s, and it does not deserve to be there in the slightest. But people adore revenge porn and cliche isekai. BlakexEkalb said: And yes, 7/10 is average in MAL standards. Nope, the scores are totally messed up on MAL so it's impossible to talk about standarts. Enen no Shouboutai is an average battle shounen but people adore battle shounens thus 7/10 is a normal score for one. SH has higher score just because has more tearjerker moments, more waifu candidates and more fanservice. |
alshuAug 26, 2019 1:51 AM
| The score is consistently dropping every week, so it might go below 7, where it honestly should be. But only 7 episodes are out, so anything can happen. |
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Katsu-kun said: I don't see it going below 7. 7/10 is average as most mal users don't use rate anything lower. Also most people just like good animation and don't care how generic story/characters are. The score is consistently dropping every week, so it might go below 7, where it honestly should be. But only 7 episodes are out, so anything can happen. |
Brandon2149 said: Katsu-kun said: I don't see it going below 7. 7/10 is average as most mal users don't use rate anything lower. Also most people just like good animation and don't care how generic story/characters are. The score is consistently dropping every week, so it might go below 7, where it honestly should be. But only 7 episodes are out, so anything can happen. Either way it won't stay this high. I predict 7.5, but honestly I don't even care. |
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Katsu-kun said: Brandon2149 said: I don't see it going below 7. 7/10 is average as most mal users don't use rate anything lower. Also most people just like good animation and don't care how generic story/characters are. Either way it won't stay this high. I predict 7.5, but honestly I don't even care. honestly mal scores don't mean anything nowadays. What's important is whether you enjoy the show or not, and score it how you see fit, not in relation to mal. |
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| MAL reviews are fucking trash and it's system is even worse now, particularly because there is no proper place to refute bullshit written by those armchair critics. |
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Xstasy said: bastek66 said: MAL reviews are fucking trash and it's system is even worse now, particularly because there is no proper place to refute bullshit written by those armchair critics. They should add downvote button and allow comments on reviews. I've been proposing this for years, but they don't give a shit. |
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| Hmmm well I mean I seen other series that are pretty popular but doesn't get as much criticism. Both shows would get the same amount of haters. Yet I see this series in particular getting more than others despite its score not reflecting that. |
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| There's two possible answers that I think are likely. 1. It's a more mainstream anime. Non-critical watchers, casual watchers and people outside of the anime fanbase are much more likely to watch it and be less critical, being more generous with the score. They'd outnumber the people willing to review and rate the score more negatively by WIDE margins, the scores would weigh heavy in the former group's favor. 2. Most people that give an anime a score from the very beginning rarely change it until much later, so the general opinion could actually be changing and people haven't updated their scores just yet. You could see someone criticizing it's random cuts and say it's an average anime at best, but hasn't changed his initial score of a 9/10 that they gave at episode 2. It'll be far easier to tell what the general consensus is once the anime is actually done, and people are given more time to digest the whole thing. If it's really #2, then the score will change accordingly as people will be updating their scores. If it's #1 the changes to the score will probably be minimal unless it does something out of left field that affects the score either positively or negatively. |
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| You're missing one of the best anime of this season if you're not planning to watch this |
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| Animes that are currently airing, their scores tend to move around a lot. Only when it ends will we know what the actual scores will look like. |
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| Even here you can see how dispair the opinions are. For me, I see a lot of people trying to disparage the critics with things like "people cry because it's different" or "I didn't notice anything wrong, those are just annoying elitists" (paraphrasing). IMO this show is, well, absurd. I think that those lots of weird pauses make dialogs unbearable, but it doesn't stop there, every interactiong is full of weirdness, I can't belive them. And retaking the "different" issue, you can make something with this style, there is no problem, but, at least for me, this is definitly not the case. I'm watching it because the sinopsis caugh my attention at first, but right know, Maki is the only character I like and the reason I can try to finish it. In addition, I want to finish it ir order to be able to rate it. I usually don't rate unless I finish the show, (with some excepction here and there) And I apologize for my English, as you may notice it's not my first language. |
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OnionKnightRises said: There's two possible answers that I think are likely. 1. It's a more mainstream anime. Non-critical watchers, casual watchers and people outside of the anime fanbase are much more likely to watch it and be less critical, being more generous with the score. They'd outnumber the people willing to review and rate the score more negatively by WIDE margins, the scores would weigh heavy in the former group's favor. 2. Most people that give an anime a score from the very beginning rarely change it until much later, so the general opinion could actually be changing and people haven't updated their scores just yet. You could see someone criticizing it's random cuts and say it's an average anime at best, but hasn't changed his initial score of a 9/10 that they gave at episode 2. It'll be far easier to tell what the general consensus is once the anime is actually done, and people are given more time to digest the whole thing. If it's really #2, then the score will change accordingly as people will be updating their scores. If it's #1 the changes to the score will probably be minimal unless it does something out of left field that affects the score either positively or negatively. Huh, thanks. That's actually the answer I was looking for. Never thought of it that way. Makes a lot more sense. I'll probably lean on #1 than #2. |
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| I have a better question for you - why do you even care? I stopped giving ratings a while ago (most shows still have ratings because this list is over 10 years old and I'm not gonna bother to clear it now) since it's completely pointless anyways. Just read a synopsis or go off of a friends recommendation - do not look at the ratings here. Seriously - just don't. You are going to miss out on too much shit that could be right up your alley. Many of my favourite shows that I would give my hand and soul for are in the mid 7's (like kaze no stigma or chrome shelled regios) and some are even below 7. Had I gone off ratings alone - I would never even have watched them. Checking out a single episode of a show is really going to do a lot more for you than looking at ratings. I wouldn't mind if ratings disapeared completely - in fact I would preffer that. Also - every single place on the internet is full of elitist. Being a fan of games like Nioh, Sekiro, Monster Hunter etc. I deal with it every day. It's tiring sure but then again - there is literally nothing you can do about it. I know there is a bunch of people here who will look down on you because you watched a particular show and you rated it highly - since in their minds everyone who likes that particular show is an inferior human being. I'm not actually sure if they are depressed and need to make other people feel bad so that they can feel better or they are just plain assholes but like I said - you just have to live with it since it's not going away. PS. If you think I was being passive-aggresive... well I kind of was - sue me. |
WerchielSep 2, 2019 4:13 AM
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| I can't bring myself to be serious with the lore of this story series, can't blame them studio since they adapted the manga and its not a whole new "tv-version". I remember many people said the original source, which is the manga, is not really something pleasant to be read. I havent read the manga nor do I plan to, I watched on crunchy up to episode 3 or 4 (i dont really remember) and I started to get really bored already. I wished they could just be done and remove the awkward fanservice, its worse in the manga (they said) and it should have been exterminated from the tv-adaptation, as well. |
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| 7.8 is #900+ rank, that's not a lot. The series started at a solid 8.2 more or less and it's only been declining since then, so yes, you can see the results of the criticisms in the score |
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| Scores tend to go with the main stream opinion, even if a show is generic as hell, if it appeals to a large audience and thus has an okay score, people tend to bumb up their own score. Lets say, a watcher thinks a show is average and is going to give a score of 5-6, but if the show is scored an 8 on MAL the watcher will start to unconciously think higher of it an give a better score. The same works the other way around too, a shitty score will usually stew in the watchers mind and result in giving a lower score to an okay show. Reviews are usually written by elitists that will find fault in everything, or by fans that will hype up shit. Good reviews, written with a more neutral outlook tend to get buried under the extremeties. Honestly, people shouldn't pay any attention to either the score, or the reviews and just give an anime a go, if the synopsis and the look of the anime intrests them. And if you feel that an anime with a shitty score is a masterpiece, give it a 10 if you feel like it, and if a mainstream hyped up anime is bad to you, give it a 1. It's your opinion, don't let it be influenced by others. |
| I feel like a lot of the reviewers here are imbeciles void of any talents needed to be a good critic. I'm not saying this is a masterpiece but to score it a 3 is just insane and shows a complete lack of looking at a piece of work objectively (which is what a critic should be doing). |
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| I really like Fire Force. Wish it was an aoriginal anime tho. I was about to watch Episode 9 till i got distraced with Precure and Symphogear |
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MonkeyDJasper said: Funny thing is many haters of this show enjoyed Seven Deadly Sins which I think is generic and filled with fanserviceMAL is full of elitist . If a story is generic and straightforward majority of the time they won’t like it . Ppl gonna say I’m lying but the score didn’t really start to drop until episode 3 with the fanservice and ppl started to act like the show was filled with fanservice when that’s wrong and it’s actually super turned down . The score is gonna go up eventually , the lowest score this show will have is an 8 just like Soul Eater . |
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That's because there pretty much used to be one and it got removed. Considering your account is old af, you probably know that there used to be a "Not Helpful" option on reviews. As for comments on reviews, fuck that. Shit would just become flame wars and fan boys and haters fighting with some normal people sprinkled in between. You already have people starting flame wars and each other's account comment section, review comment sections would be so much worse. If users on this site weren't total shit it'd be worth it, but I doubt it'd be any use in this state. |
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| I feel like this show is a mess. It's not bad, it's just it could've been done better. Many people already have said it already but the comedy is forced, the character interactions are weird sometimes, and the dialogues sometimes feel like the characters themselves are the ones reading a script instead of the voice actors. I also really hate how they handled Tamaki's character. I was interested in her since I saw her in the opening, and when she appeared I started liking her... until her weird thing about the forced fanservice. It's not as annoying as some other characters in this or other shounen shows, but it really is a shame. Now it feels like she will become this shows's Lucy: a character whose sole purpose is defeating small fry and delivering fanservice. I still find this show entertaining most of the time and think it has potential, so lets hope it gets better later. |
KorhalChildSep 7, 2019 4:11 PM
Gourmetforce said: TheRaniel03 said: Funny thing is many haters of this show enjoyed Seven Deadly Sins which I think is generic and filled with fanservice Holy crap now you are saying even the seven deadly sins score is higher than this anime holy crap and it's even more generic and bad in comparison to this. Have you watched the show? It is genric as all hell and filled with useless fansevice |
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MonkeyDJasper said: ppl started to act like the show was filled with fanservice when that’s wrong and it’s actually super turned down sure, jan. "super toned down"  in the middle of a serious fight scene. sure. |
javor said: How the fuck do you not notice the main charecter falling on a girl tits, taking her skirt, her clothes being burned of just for fan service, in the middle of a fight. 1. Idiotic ecchi scenes can be found in 2/3 of all battle shounens...tradition of sorts. This is like to expect sport anime without fujoshi bait or mahou shoujo without yuri bait. Are you newcomer or something? If you are kind of offended stop watching trashy popular stuff and go elitistic. Or another way is to start to watch kodomo (actually good stuff there can give you some recommendations if you like.) 2. Rude much? I said I don't value it high...most of the battle shounens too. 3. BlakexEkalb was asking why Shield Hero has higher score...and it has problematic sexualisation too, voluntary slavery, weird bird fetishes, poor excuses for revenge porn ect. Actually it's way worst offender but you guys don't mind it. |
alshuSep 8, 2019 1:37 PM
Mayuka said: MonkeyDJasper said: ppl started to act like the show was filled with fanservice when that’s wrong and it’s actually super turned down sure, jan. "super toned down" in the middle of a serious fight scene. sure. She had only underwear in manga so it was toned down. |
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