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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- I still got some mixed feelings about Oliver. Seems he does have a very important person in his life though. Based on some of the storytelling, he doesn't actually seem like an evil character in the beginning. Then, some events impacted his life. I find this episode to have the least amount of humor or goofy moments compared to the others. |
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| That some tragic backstory. He was a nice guy to begin with. |
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| Schtrom's tragic past reminded me of Baran's tragic past too from the manga Dai no Daibouken. Yes, those 2 have a woman that they loved very much killed by humans, but is that a good reason to want to wipe out an entire country or species just because of the wrongdoings of a few people that did something evil against those 2 ? This is what we call "Tragic past turns good guy into a nihilistic genocidal antagonist". But at least he had a somewhat logical reason to turn bad, unlike Anakin Skywalker from Star Wars, since Anakin caused his beloved woman to die due to his own greed for power and having his mind influenced by Palpatine. So, Anakin doesn't love his woman as much as Schtrom or Baran, since the latter 2's motivation for their genodical plans were for revenge. |
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| I frown at recent installments of Persona and Trails of Cold Steel that introduce harem-like elements in the story. We need more JRPGs like the past Lunar series, where there are multiple romantic pairings in the party other than for the protagonist and main heroine. |
| Is it just me or the world top view at the end looks really similar to Konosuba, I mean it reminds me of the first opening of Konosuba |
| This for sure will need a second season. I don't think with the last two episodes remaining, things will wrap up. Meh, nothing new beneath the sun, i guess. |
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ninosanjaya said: Is it just me or the world top view at the end looks really similar to Konosuba, I mean it reminds me of the first opening of Konosuba Not only you. The effort tho.  |
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Piromysl said: ninosanjaya said: Is it just me or the world top view at the end looks really similar to Konosuba, I mean it reminds me of the first opening of Konosuba Not only you. The effort tho. Takes copy/paste to a whole new level lol! |
DjangoUnchained2 said: Takes copy/paste to a whole new level lol! Looks a lot better in kenja no mago. Same art director, so I guess he has improved |
| It took 5 minutes to make a villain more sympathetic than the hero. |
elementex said: TigersAndDragons said: It took 5 minutes to make a villain more sympathetic than the hero. I feel more for shin. Getting hit by a truck that had no patience to wait their turn, also being overworked with no real friends. He deserved everything he’s gotten in this new world Having a basic chemistry education doesn't qualify you to defeat a literal Demon Man. |
| Wow they did a really good job with adapting Schtrom's backstory,he was too good for the empire....... Shin named the team Ultimate Magicians,even thou he hate's cringy things like chanting while using magic, that's the best thing he could come up with......... |
| well that's just my opinion..... |
| This episode was utterly boring, the "villain" got forgotten for about 6 episodes with little to no screentime, and then he receives almost a full episode trying to make him interesting but it backfired so hard, his backstory was shown way too late. |
| "We could make the world better, but it's easier to just shut our eyes." ~Blackwall |
| This backstory was a lot better than I expected. I like how the villain actually succeeds in his goal. The rest from here is just dessert. Even if Shin wins he's too late technically. Hope we see more of that if the series continues. The Ultimate Magicians (just their name in English?) are kinda overpowered so if their victory comes with an ash coated trophy it would make this a pretty interesting story. At least less generic than I was expecting. |
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| So, this Schtrom guy used to be an idealist good guy before until a group of jealous nobles decided to give him hell by means of fake news telling the towns folks that he is in the business of kidnapping people and turning them to slaves , thus becoming a bad guy. |
elementex said: HereticHunter said: This episode was utterly boring, the "villain" got forgotten for about 6 episodes with little to no screentime, and then he receives almost a full episode trying to make him interesting but it backfired so hard, his backstory was shown way too late. disagree, how is this late? It makes perfect sense within the story to show this now. Did this anime ever had a story? lmao. It is pretty late, for someone who represented a "Threat" to this world, he fells flat and uninteresting. Its like having a Villain on an 100+ episodes anime that looked really threatening, but then it disappears with no trail whatsoever, barely having any screentime while the heroes train and goofs around. Then it reappears with some random backstory which fells flat. Yet, these kind of anime always gets their "lit" moment at the very end anyway. I'm not really sure I should be arguing with someone who rates popular anime with 1/10 lmao |
| "We could make the world better, but it's easier to just shut our eyes." ~Blackwall |
| So the "main villain" has not intention of fighting or being a villain but his lackeys are trying to set him on the "right" path :D Based on the backstory Oliver can even be considered a hero (cliche premise of "they killed my family, then I got super powers, then I beat them up"). The Ultimate Magicians thing was cringy. The show itsself lacks impact. It basically skips all possible conflict and just focuses on the pauses between conflicts. The episode with the battle against Oliver was the only one in which the creators allowed a proper fight to happen but even then it proceeded quite one-sidedly. In One-punch man fights at least do proper buildup before the one-hit KO. Here there's just the KO and then a few episodes focus on the characters resting/training and then the next match which also ends in a one-hit KO. Idk, I was expecting more from this series |
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elementex said: HereticHunter said: Did this anime ever had a story? lmao. It is pretty late, for someone who represented a "Threat" to this world, he fells flat and uninteresting. Its like having a Villain on an 100+ episodes anime that looked really threatening, but then it disappears with no trail whatsoever, barely having any screentime while the heroes train and goofs around. Then it reappears with some random backstory which fells flat. Yet, these kind of anime always gets their "lit" moment at the very end anyway. I'm not really sure I should be arguing with someone who rates popular anime with 1/10 lmao Yet you have re:zero which is fitting cause there’s literally zero story. And then they make up some bad guy late in the series. I gave Re:Zero a 5 for a reason ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
| "We could make the world better, but it's easier to just shut our eyes." ~Blackwall |
DjangoUnchained2 said: HereticHunter said: I gave Re:Zero a 5 for a reason ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I would avoid tryna reasonably debate with a guy who acts like he could be an agent of the production company or maybe related to the author. Sadly this is a reality not only on Mal Threads, but almost everywhere in the network. |
| "We could make the world better, but it's easier to just shut our eyes." ~Blackwall |
| Finally an interesting episode again. Schtrom did nothing wrong. P.S. Don't take it too seriously, it's just a meme. |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
| Oliver is a boring typical baddie who just wants revenge for something he lost, Laaaame! I don't understand how he became a demonoid, it doesn't make sense. They can't just say he got enraged and bam he's a demonoid all of a sudden, then what about his ability to make other demonoids, where does it come from? Plain backstory that even a 5 year old anime watcher could come up with, tragic bad guy my asss! As for Shin's party, "ULTIMATE MAGICIANS", a fitting name for a lame party on a lame series! |
How I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb --- Dr Strangelove  |
| Probably the most serious episode out of the 10 that already aired. A bit of a classic villain : lost everything including his lovely wife, his reputation and now seeks for revenge. Well at least we learnt more about him, so that's still a advancement... except the most important point : how come do you turn yourself from a regular magician to a demonoid ? Usually this comes after a ritual or something like that. My thoughts : he was originally a demon who decided to live as a human, in a peaceful way so he just came back to his original form. The Earlsheid Kingdom basically entered the conflict directly, so the next 2 episodes will be a bit more serious I think. |
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Piromysl said: ninosanjaya said: Is it just me or the world top view at the end looks really similar to Konosuba, I mean it reminds me of the first opening of Konosuba Not only you. The effort tho. I will not surprised if we will have crossover between Konosuba and Kenja no Mago. This crossover will be very interesting :D |
| you know... This anime is not bad but at the same time it's not good. The "villain" have such a generic backstory that doesn't even make sense now. If they had exposed his story early, before he destroyed the entire place, i could feel some "simpathy" for him but now, almost in the end of season it just felt like unecessary exposition. Again i didn't read the LN, it's probably better there but here, it's looks like a rushed mess. |
| Schtrom could just demand the empire instead of taking revenge and kill them all though. Well, there wouldn't be an antagonist if that happened |
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| wow after that back story Strom seems like the better character than Shin and what kind of name is "ultimate magicians" lol |
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Malufeenho said: This anime is still much better than something like World Break or Kuusen Madoushi, which feels even more boring and uninspired.you know... This anime is not bad but at the same time it's not good. The "villain" have such a generic backstory that doesn't even make sense now. If they had exposed his story early, before he destroyed the entire place, i could feel some "simpathy" for him but now, almost in the end of season it just felt like unecessary exposition. Again i didn't read the LN, it's probably better there but here, it's looks like a rushed mess. |
| I frown at recent installments of Persona and Trails of Cold Steel that introduce harem-like elements in the story. We need more JRPGs like the past Lunar series, where there are multiple romantic pairings in the party other than for the protagonist and main heroine. |
| Well the flashback was sad and I guess his works r justified. The nobles and emperor should have died. |
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Himeee03 said: HereticHunter said: i agree the villain was a second thought, i wouldve given it a 6/10 if it stayed slice of life, but now the way its progressed maybe a 2 or 3Did this anime ever had a story? lmao. It is pretty late, for someone who represented a "Threat" to this world, he fells flat and uninteresting. Its like having a Villain on an 100+ episodes anime that looked really threatening, but then it disappears with no trail whatsoever, barely having any screentime while the heroes train and goofs around. Then it reappears with some random backstory which fells flat. Yet, these kind of anime always gets their "lit" moment at the very end anyway. I'm not really sure I should be arguing with someone who rates popular anime with 1/10 lmao I'm glad they fleshed out the villain. Now we know a bit more what they're up against and the slice of life stuff makes us more invested in the characters. They've been training like crazy it would be silly if they didn't actually use that against a real threat. IMO this show is just cheap escapism (i.e. isekai). I'm just going along for the ride. |
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