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Mar 12, 2019 3:04 PM
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Britain’s Parliament on Tuesday soundly defeated Prime Minister Theresa May’s plan to exit the European Union, a 391 to 242 vote that is likely to delay Brexit and could derail it entirely. It is a devastating blow to Mrs. May that threatens her hold on power.

The vote left the nation with no obvious way forward, just 17 days before the deadline for leaving the European Union. Parliament is sharply divided on when, how and even whether to proceed with Brexit, and whether to call an election or a second referendum.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/12/world/europe/theresa-may-brexit-vote.html

Brexit will not happen if this keeps up
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Mar 12, 2019 3:10 PM
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Brexit is the most lulz worthy thing I have ever seen in politics...like epic levels of hilarious due to how stupid it all is.

I assume this is how non-Americans feel at all the retarded shit that happens in American politics...gotta admit, it really is funny.
Mar 12, 2019 3:17 PM
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Brexit is the most lulz worthy thing I have ever seen in politics...like epic levels of hilarious due to how stupid it all is.

I assume this is how non-Americans feel at all the retarded shit that happens in American politics...gotta admit, it really is funny.


Don't be a remoaner, Britain NEEDS Brexit especially seeing how Orwellian the country has become.


Mar 12, 2019 3:26 PM
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Do you want to leave?

British Parliament: No.

Do you want to stay?

British Parliament: No.

Do you want anything?

British Parliament: No.
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Mar 12, 2019 3:31 PM
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--ALEX-- said:
Brexit is the most lulz worthy thing I have ever seen in politics

I think that the U.S.A still holds that title.

But yes, even as a slightly patriotic Briton I can't deny that this whole Brexit fiasco has been an international embarrassment to Britain. This whole situation could have been solved much earlier if the Conservatives did not hold the exclusive rights to drawing up a withdrawal plan. The whole process really should have been divided into clauses and voted on in Parliament over months. Therefore, disappointments like this wouldn't happen every other week.
Mar 12, 2019 4:15 PM
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--ALEX-- said:
Brexit is the most lulz worthy thing I have ever seen in politics...like epic levels of hilarious due to how stupid it all is.

I assume this is how non-Americans feel at all the retarded shit that happens in American politics...gotta admit, it really is funny.


we're in a secret competition with the US as to who can embarrass themselves the most on the international stage personally I wouldn't want to be the judge.

entire debacle has been an utter waste of time just do a second referendum ffs
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Mar 12, 2019 4:36 PM
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"do you want to leave?"
"YES"

"are you sure"
"YES"

"here let me work and do my best to sabotage everything, now do you still want to leave?"



embarrassing if you defend this.

Oh maybe, maybe it's the clothes we wear
The tasteless bracelets and the dye in our hair
Or maybe, maybe it's our nowhere towns or our nothing places
But we're trash, you and me
We're the litter on the breeze
We're the lovers on the streets
Just trash, me and you
It's in everything we do
It's in everything we do



Mar 12, 2019 4:46 PM
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I mean look at this crazy shit...



It’s certainly not looking good.
Mar 12, 2019 7:01 PM
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Congratulations Britain, you played yourself.
Mar 12, 2019 7:04 PM

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Didn't I say years ago this would happen?

Hoppy said:
--ALEX-- said:
Brexit is the most lulz worthy thing I have ever seen in politics...like epic levels of hilarious due to how stupid it all is.

I assume this is how non-Americans feel at all the retarded shit that happens in American politics...gotta admit, it really is funny.


Don't be a remoaner, Britain NEEDS Brexit especially seeing how Orwellian the country has become.

It became that way because their conservate government not because the EU.
Mar 12, 2019 7:10 PM

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traed said:
Hoppy said:


Don't be a remoaner, Britain NEEDS Brexit especially seeing how Orwellian the country has become.

It became that way because their conservate government not because the EU.
Both the British and EU governments are corrupt. What they're doing is invalidating the people's vote and drawing this out as long as possible and making it as bureaucratic as possible so that it never truly happens; they just keep putting it off to "someday".
Mar 12, 2019 7:16 PM

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Lost_Viking said:
traed said:

It became that way because their conservate government not because the EU.
Both the British and EU governments are corrupt. What they're doing is invalidating the people's vote and drawing this out as long as possible and making it as bureaucratic as possible so that it never truly happens; they just keep putting it off to "someday".


The vote itself was corrupt though. Many people were fooled into what it was about and what the consequences would be.
Mar 12, 2019 8:26 PM

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Hoppy said:
--ALEX-- said:
Brexit is the most lulz worthy thing I have ever seen in politics...like epic levels of hilarious due to how stupid it all is.

I assume this is how non-Americans feel at all the retarded shit that happens in American politics...gotta admit, it really is funny.


Don't be a remoaner, Britain NEEDS Brexit especially seeing how Orwellian the country has become.


and that's happened on their own, and like porn id check, has refused by EU.
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Mar 13, 2019 3:22 AM

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Here's what will happen, they will voted to rule out no deal, they will refuse to honour the referendum. There will be protests.

The EU has said it's that deal or nothing, anyone int heir right mind would say no deal then but the moron politicians will vote against it and beg the EU for an extension and we will remain in the EU.

I said from day 1, they will not allow us to leave. The EU hates democracy.
Mar 13, 2019 4:16 PM

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I do not fully agree with the "EU hates democracy". but they have shown a dislike for national sovereignty. The EU bloc has massive issues within its system. Hopefully this referendum (failed or successful) wakes up the other party members o the issues.
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Here's what will happen, they will voted to rule out no deal, they will refuse to honour the referendum. There will be protests.

The EU has said it's that deal or nothing, anyone int heir right mind would say no deal then but the moron politicians will vote against it and beg the EU for an extension and we will remain in the EU.

I said from day 1, they will not allow us to leave. The EU hates democracy.


those decision was agreed by all of EU country delegation, even most conservative right-wing government one like Romania, Slovenia, Czech, Hungary, Italia, Greece, and Poland. they were even the one to push the most hard brexit (except only italy IIRC, but also not in favor to support more lax to brexit negotiation). why fellow right-wing goverment hate each other soo much is beyond me, dunno why. markel was pushing for more tolerance for brexit, but she fail so far to convince other country. EU democracy somehow, "works", but just not on UK's favor in EU side, LMAO.
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It's gonna be interesting to see what happens when the deadline is reached.
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Mar 13, 2019 10:00 PM
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Is England completely on fire yet? Or is it just the houses of parliament?
Mar 14, 2019 1:22 AM

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It's so dumb, we have half the house voting no to the deal and no to no deal. WTF do they want to happen?

Just watch, the EU wont even offer an extension without their palms getting greased.

The idea was to screw this up so badly that we would re vote and it would be fixed to run back to the EU. Thats why the likes of the BBC have had 2 whole years of brainwashing project fear on the population.
Mar 14, 2019 2:37 AM

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It's so dumb, we have half the house voting no to the deal and no to no deal. WTF do they want to happen?

Just watch, the EU wont even offer an extension without their palms getting greased.

The idea was to screw this up so badly that we would re vote and it would be fixed to run back to the EU. Thats why the likes of the BBC have had 2 whole years of brainwashing project fear on the population.
QPR said:
It's so dumb, we have half the house voting no to the deal and no to no deal. WTF do they want to happen?

Just watch, the EU wont even offer an extension without their palms getting greased.

The idea was to screw this up so badly that we would re vote and it would be fixed to run back to the EU. Thats why the likes of the BBC have had 2 whole years of brainwashing project fear on the population.
may has cough voting no to her own resolution. It's all in uk side now
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She's going to get the MPs to vote a third time on her awful deal. To me that's proof she's in cahoots with the EU as that's their style, vote, vote and vote again until you get the result you want. Democracy be damned,
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QPR said:
The idea was to screw this up so badly that we would re vote and it would be fixed to run back to the EU. Thats why the likes of the BBC have had 2 whole years of brainwashing project fear on the population.


SVT and other MS media are doing the same thing here since the brexit referendum. The propaganda has reached a new level. Just 4 years ago you could be against or sceptical to the EU, nobody would make a great fuss of it other than not agreeing. But now they're trying to paint you as a racist or of that sort if you are against the EU. I don't know if this is the case for BBC, but SVT is a part of the government's "psychological defense" here.


Mar 14, 2019 11:45 PM

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Man, this shit is a complete circus at this point.

So now May has to ask the EU to delay the exit.

Like, the EU should tell her and UK to fuck right off!

“You wanted to leave, and Everything is a mess, oh well, too bad, good riddance!”

Lol, I love every minute of this.
Mar 14, 2019 11:46 PM

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--ALEX-- said:
Brexit is the most lulz worthy thing I have ever seen in politics...like epic levels of hilarious due to how stupid it all is.

I assume this is how non-Americans feel at all the retarded shit that happens in American politics...gotta admit, it really is funny.
Unlike the US the UK isn't a "elect your new dictator every four years"-"democracy" which is the reason Brexit is so comical because Theresa's powers are indeed far more limited.

The thing is that Brexit was originally approved by referendum but now no one still believes that the majority of the UK actually supports it and the majority of the parliament doesn't either so the parliament has to approve a process to something it as a whole doesn't support which leads to the amusing clown circus.

Because this process takes far longer than Donald just pointing a finger and asking for it in-between his patriotic blowjob sessions it highlights how much of a sunk-cost fallacy they're stuck in.


It is obvious that "obscenity" is not a term capable of exact legal definition; in the practice of the courts, it means "anything that shocks the magistrate".

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Mar 15, 2019 3:08 AM

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May is trying to get her awful deal passed for the third time, that won't happen and the EU have offered a 4 year delay. AKA staying.

I have maintained from the start, we will not be allowed to leave. Mays deal is not leaving and staying for 4 more years clearly isn't leaving.

The people want to leave but the politicians do not, hence this clusterfuck. All done by design to make going back to the EU to be the best solution.
Mar 15, 2019 3:35 AM

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May is trying to get her awful deal passed for the third time, that won't happen and the EU have offered a 4 year delay. AKA staying.

I have maintained from the start, we will not be allowed to leave. Mays deal is not leaving and staying for 4 more years clearly isn't leaving.

The people want to leave but the politicians do not, hence this clusterfuck. All done by design to make going back to the EU to be the best solution.


What exactly should the EU have offered Britain that Britain would have accepted as Brexit clauses?
Mar 15, 2019 3:49 AM

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Fijure said:

What exactly should the EU have offered Britain that Britain would have accepted as Brexit clauses?


The deal they offered Japan, Australia and Canada. A Free trade deal with no clauses.

As of now, they want £39b, all EU and ex EU employee to be exempt from any crime in the UK, access to our fishing grounds, a yearly fee for this "deal" to be decided by the EU only, no way for the UK to cancel this deal, ECHR to still rule over us and about a dozen other ridiculous things there purely out of spite for the UK to try to withdraw.

May could have united the UK public with that and then explained why the EU offer was horrific but shes trying to push it through as she has always been on the side of the EU, which is why every UK negotiator resigned rather than be associated with the traitorous "deal".
Mar 15, 2019 5:23 AM

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> Government vote against their OWN legislation
> Opposition vote for it

How much more ridiculous can this Tory Brexit get?

Mar 15, 2019 5:32 AM

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Taking back control and putting it in the hands of these lunatics is looking great eh.
Mar 15, 2019 5:33 AM

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Taking back control and putting it in the hands of these lunatics is looking great eh.


The fact that they were voted into parliament in the first place is an absolute joke.
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The fact that they were voted into parliament in the first place is an absolute joke.


The sad thing is they will stay in power as long as Corbyn and Abbott are in opposition, 75% of labour think Corbyn is unfit to lead so they have no chance in a GE.
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QPR said:
Henna_tai said:


The fact that they were voted into parliament in the first place is an absolute joke.


The sad thing is they will stay in power as long as Corbyn and Abbott are in opposition, 75% of labour think Corbyn is unfit to lead so they have no chance in a GE.


Exactly. Do you remember when we had a Conservative / Liberal Democrats run parliament? That was a complete shambles also. Nick Clegg is now nowhere to be seen haha.
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Exactly. Do you remember when we had a Conservative / Liberal Democrats run parliament? That was a complete shambles also. Nick Clegg is now nowhere to be seen haha.

We have the tories selling out the UK to the EU, it's treason.
We have Labour trying for a GE knowing they will lose but still trying to destroy Brexit in any way possible.
the Lib Dems have said they will ignore the referendum and run back to the EU.

There is literally no one to vote for. I bet Farage is regretting leaving UKIP as I think they would have been in power next as half the UK is seriously pissed off at all parties.
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QPR said:
Fijure said:

What exactly should the EU have offered Britain that Britain would have accepted as Brexit clauses?


The deal they offered Japan, Australia and Canada. A Free trade deal with no clauses.


Wouldn't that deal require a border in Northern Ireland? London isn't going to let that happen.
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QPR said:
Fijure said:

What exactly should the EU have offered Britain that Britain would have accepted as Brexit clauses?


The deal they offered Japan, Australia and Canada. A Free trade deal with no clauses.
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yes but japan, Australia and Canada.

didn't send a big f you to the EU right before the deal.
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didn't send a big f you to the EU right before the deal.


Actually the UK went to the EU to try and get some reforms done, the unelected dictators said no so that's why we had the referendum.

Using your democratic rights as a country is actually seen as a big FU by the dictators and that's why we want to leave as a population but the dictators and Treason May won't let that happen.
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so much dilemma and complexity in that one of the cold war winners.

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Oh, Seriously?

Then You Can Not Destroy The World With Beauty!
Instead, You Need Brain And Muscle To Do So!
Only People With The Most Superior Brains And Muscles
Can Be The Best At Destroying This World!
But Who Has More Superior Brain And Muscle Anyway?
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Told you May was a traitor. She literally wants the worst deal possible for the UK which is why all those negotiators resigned.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-03-11/subversive-statecraft-scandal-exposes-bombshell-german-designed-brexit

Taking orders from the Germans and I bet she gets a nicely paid job via Germany as soon as this is over.
Mar 21, 2019 1:34 AM
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Why is this Simon's cat meme so accurate?

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The truth is the exact opposite of that gif. The EU will not allow us to leave, hence that "deal" which we will never be allowed to leave unless the EU say so.

They need our money or they will implode.
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I really hope they'll won't extend the Brexit and give Britain rightfully what they deserve. All it'll do is to make the EU look even weaker. Not so close to the new elections, please.
From the very beginnings Great Britain got a lot of extras compared to other European countries, now that they want to leave they really think they can get some benefits just because they were in the EU before.
Benefits my ass, that's what you get when you think one puny country alone can do as much as a union of many contries. You' re not America, you're in no position for that sort of thing so know your place.

As much a I dislike the EU and several of our own politicans at times, that lousy excuse of politics coming from Britain right now should show everyone how bad of an idea it is nowadays to act on your own.

But hey,there are still enough deluded people, I don't want to name, who throw conspiracies around like "the dictators of the EU" and how "they are never allowed to leave the EU". That's how it always is with all those right populists, the fault is on the other's side, we are the greatest.
Haha.
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The EU has absolutely no interest in giving a good deal to UK and that should have been obvious from the start. Because if they are too nice, other countries will start thinking they can get nice deal if they leave too.
Every single person who voted for Brexit should have known that simple fact. They won't stop you to leave, but there will be NO nice deal, or at the very least, you better wait a long one in negotiations before seeing one of those.


Peoples who voted for leaving without understanding something that simple are irresponsible and should have not voted such important decision so lightly.
Now they have only themselves and their compatriots to blame. But hey, I suppose they 'll have an easy way out blaming incompetent politician for something they triggered themselves to begin with *smh*

I just hope the whole mess doesn't throw out of balance the whole European continent as a result.
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What Happened, and What's Next?

amusing title because no one really knows.

eh but brexit's bants at the moment because, well, if it just doesn't happen that's anti-democratic but, otherwise, i'm pretty sure the majority would vote bremain in a second referndum
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Mar 22, 2019 1:26 AM

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The EU agree to a 3 month delay but only if MPs agree to Mays horrific deal which is not leaving and has been voted against twice and cannot be voted on a third time by law.

This is how far the EU and that traitor want want to go to subvert democracy and the peoples will.

Hopefully the MPs vote no again. They were only 3 votes shorts of no deal last time so it only needs p3 people to switch sides and we can get the perfect end, no deal. May out of there and someone with a backbone to negotiate a proper deal.
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Poor British people. Not only do they have to deal with the stupidity of their own government but also that of the EU.
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Poor British people. Not only do they have to deal with the stupidity of their own government but also that of the EU.

Exactly, This PM is the worst one ever. All she had to do is walk away with no deal and then resign but shes in bed with the EU trying to con the parliament and the UK citizens into supporting her traitorous deal.

I hope the French leave next and it all falls down. I'm not opposed to what we signed up for but not being ruled by 3-5 unelected dictators. How on earth did it get to that?
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The people have spoken.

The people are also idiots.

I think Brexit is a terrible idea, cooked up by people who never thought people would go for it and promoted by liars.

The vote should never have been a 51% majority, it's much to big a decision for that it should have required more like 66%.

There are many times when I have been glad of the EU blocking the UK Gov (usually tories) from doing draconian stuff.
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Draconian stuff like article 11 and 13, like blocking democracy is Greece, Ireland and now the UK, a Euro army controlled by a handful of corrupt, unelected bureaucrats?

I'm no tory voter but at least we could vote them out...well we could if there was a viable opposition.
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The EU agree to a 3 month delay but only if MPs agree to Mays horrific deal which is not leaving and has been voted against twice and cannot be voted on a third time by law.

This is how far the EU and that traitor want want to go to subvert democracy and the peoples will.


You're being disingenuous. The EU also gave Britain an extension until April 12 even if May's deal fails again. That's enough time for the MP's to come up with at least their own idea.

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Hopefully the MPs vote no again. They were only 3 votes shorts of no deal last time so it only needs p3 people to switch sides and we can get the perfect end, no deal. May out of there and someone with a backbone to negotiate a proper deal


I don't know you can say no deal is a perfect end. If that happens, negotiations for a new deal would take a while, and the fallout in the mean time would be horrific.
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When the majority of people vote to leave in an official poll, and then politicians sabotage the thing as much as they can to try to stop it from happening. LOL.
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