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Nov 2, 2018 12:21 AM
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All this analysis on nen, zetsu, and abilities...

Pretty thoughtful chapter. This buildup so far is quite thrilling.
Nov 2, 2018 1:04 AM
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So the Fourth Prince now has two Nen beasts and an ability that lets him see and manipulate the future, JoJo villain style... yikes.

On paper it seems like such an overwhelming advantage, so I will be curious to see how it plays out when he actually starts putting it to use in battle.
Nov 2, 2018 1:05 AM
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geez, this was kind of a mind-f*ck, I'm kind of having trouble understanding Tserriednich's ability...
so basically he has Observation Haki...?
its honestly a pretty interesting twist on the obligatory shonen training arc, where we're actually seeing the villain's training rather than the protagonist's
Nov 2, 2018 1:43 AM
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An ability to alternate reality,like he said he is able to create a new future by reading the future from his vision then move in real time while his surroundings viewing his vision action and he can move outside of his vision/real time body.

Basically to make it simple,he left real world time and moves in his own time while his "vision body" is still in real time and people around him can only see his "vision body" but the real body is only visible and known to himself.So its like a glitch only known by 4th prince when everything is normal to others.
How to beat him?
Melody ability can affect everyone in the ship,so no matter where he moves or how many seconds he is able to maintain zetsu,4th prince real body won't be able to move.
So I expect Melody and Kurapika vs 4th prince,because Melody nen ability will be very important to beat this guy nen ability.
Or someone pull a Netero and nuke the ship,doubt this.Other nen user?I suppose area type nen user can kill him,anything else is futile.I don't see how Kurapika can fight him 1vs1,he definitely needs those bodyguards who will unlock their own nen ability and Melody.
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Nov 2, 2018 1:46 AM
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His ability seems crazy op, so I bet he ll soon discover a huge drawback.
Nov 2, 2018 1:49 AM
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So, that's how he avoided getting shot by Theta. He can see the future 10 seconds ahead when he closes his eyes and activate his Zetsu. Who knows how much further this can go once he masters his Zetsu state? His potential is truly frightening with this ability.
Nov 2, 2018 2:57 AM
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Wow, thats truly amazing, not only HxH can describe human nature better than others. And also explanation of these insightful and thoughtful detailed abilities.
Truly masterpiece, it deserves number 1.
Nov 2, 2018 3:33 AM
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Literally King Crimson from Vento Aureo LOL
Here is a tip of you guys don't understand Terrorsandwich's ability: It just works.

PS: Will Kurapica obtain GER now?
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Jojolion anime when?
Nov 2, 2018 3:50 AM
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xShinigami3125 said:
His ability seems crazy op, so I bet he ll soon discover a huge drawback.


I would say having to be in zetsu is already a drawback and this ability is only as usefull as he is trained in combat. Its something that is good for assassination, but once actual combat starts i dont know how powerfull it would be. It would also be interesting so see, how it interacts with the "you kill me, you die and i am resurrected". But consider him fighting meruem with that. He woudlnt be able to pierce his skin and once meruem knows he is in a fight tserenderich stands no chance.

It is a really powerfull ability though, but it definitivly is not omnipotend. At least not completly on its own.
Nov 2, 2018 4:24 AM

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Wow Tserriednich's ability is fascinating but it's just too OP. I still can't see how he can be defeated in the long run if he does master his zetsu and activation speed. Anyway I'm hyped for the next 3 chapters.
Nov 2, 2018 4:48 AM

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SolidSora said:
xShinigami3125 said:
His ability seems crazy op, so I bet he ll soon discover a huge drawback.


I would say having to be in zetsu is already a drawback and this ability is only as usefull as he is trained in combat. Its something that is good for assassination, but once actual combat starts i dont know how powerfull it would be. It would also be interesting so see, how it interacts with the "you kill me, you die and i am resurrected". But consider him fighting meruem with that. He woudlnt be able to pierce his skin and once meruem knows he is in a fight tserenderich stands no chance.

It is a really powerfull ability though, but it definitivly is not omnipotend. At least not completly on its own.

Ofc but nobody can beat meruem lol and most people in hxh don't fight head to head, like they would in other battle shounen so his ability is pretty op. I mean most people can easily have their head cut off so he doesn't even need to be all that powerful in actual combat.
Nov 2, 2018 6:53 AM

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Pfff that ability is useless against Cammy, at this point it isn't even a prediction, I'm freaking sure Cammy will win this succession war, yup calling it again
Nov 2, 2018 7:23 AM

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Katakuri, welcome to the HxH world XD
The 4th prince is gonna win this succession war
Nov 2, 2018 7:38 AM

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HXH is more to become like JJBA, I am not sure how to feel about that ...
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Nidhoeggr said:
Literally King Crimson from Vento Aureo LOL
Here is a tip of you guys don't understand Terrorsandwich's ability: It just works.

PS: Will Kurapica obtain GER now?


Emperor Time Requiem. Time to create a character stronger than Meruem in HxH lol
Nov 2, 2018 8:58 AM
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What a great ability
Nov 2, 2018 10:02 AM

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The last panel was a Jojo reference :P
Nov 2, 2018 10:15 AM

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This is a pretty crazy ability that the prince has. It's cool to see how he survived the gunshot. He has the potential to be an even more dangerous threat once he masters this technique.

Every comment I see about this chapter: "oMg tHiS iS tUrnInG iNtO jOjO." (Also some occasional One Piece references as well).

Also, I think it's a stretch to say that the last panel is a Jojo reference. Simply using the phrase "the world," as in, "I will dominate the world," is automatically a Jojo reference now? Yikes, at this rate we'll get to a point where a character simply drinks water and somehow that becomes a Jojo reference.
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So, what about thetas mark?? it was obviously work of tserriednich's nen beast but when it decided to use it? tserriednich uses his foreseeing abiliy 4 to 5 times but the beast only acts on the last one. So what is the trigger for it to activate its ability??
Nov 2, 2018 2:26 PM

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Then i will dominate the succession war and the world!



Nov 2, 2018 3:48 PM

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Every comment I see about this chapter: "oMg tHiS iS tUrnInG iNtO jOjO." (Also some occasional One Piece references as well).

Also, I think it's a stretch to say that the last panel is a Jojo reference. Simply using the phrase "the world," as in, "I will dominate the world," is automatically a Jojo reference now? Yikes, at this rate we'll get to a point where a character simply drinks water and somehow that becomes a Jojo reference.


Tse's ability is exactly the same as the Stand the main villian of Vento Aureo (Part 5) uses...it's not at all about the pose, though that certainly adds a nice touch to it. But hey, why do your research before posting...
Jojolion anime when?
Nov 2, 2018 4:01 PM

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Nidhoeggr said:
thebrentinator24 said:

Every comment I see about this chapter: "oMg tHiS iS tUrnInG iNtO jOjO." (Also some occasional One Piece references as well).

Also, I think it's a stretch to say that the last panel is a Jojo reference. Simply using the phrase "the world," as in, "I will dominate the world," is automatically a Jojo reference now? Yikes, at this rate we'll get to a point where a character simply drinks water and somehow that becomes a Jojo reference.


Tse's ability is exactly the same as the Stand the main villian of Vento Aureo (Part 5) uses...it's not at all about the pose, though that certainly adds a nice touch to it. But hey, why do your research before posting...

Well i haven't read the Jojo Part 5 manga, so it made no sense to me after reading the chapter. Even then, for all we know it could just be a coincidence and Togashi possibly didn't even consult Jojo (unless he's confirmed before that he draws inspiration from Jojo, which I wouldn't doubt in this case). Also, I'll eventually see that Stand when the Part 5 anime gets there (I'd prefer to avoid spoilers so that's why I didn't research it).
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People on MAL refuse to actually enjoy watching anime.

Your taste in anime isn't a personality trait.

Take me back to the days before MAL became infested with Twitter's favorite buzzwords.


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thebrentinator24 said:
This is a pretty crazy ability that the prince has. It's cool to see how he survived the gunshot. He has the potential to be an even more dangerous threat once he masters this technique.

Every comment I see about this chapter: "oMg tHiS iS tUrnInG iNtO jOjO." (Also some occasional One Piece references as well).

Also, I think it's a stretch to say that the last panel is a Jojo reference. Simply using the phrase "the world," as in, "I will dominate the world," is automatically a Jojo reference now? Yikes, at this rate we'll get to a point where a character simply drinks water and somehow that becomes a Jojo reference.


Most bizzare stuff already covered by JJBA so when there are strange or unique ability its hard to escape from JJBA references,I pity writers in supernatural genre.
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Amazing tribute to JoJo by Togashi because the Golden Wind anime, I really like it, his King Crimson is cool.

Now being serious, I really like how this arc is going on, is so good, and I like the suspense and habilities, the Nen show that isn't it another KI and have a so well structured rules. And I really think that this is a JoJo reference or tribute, but is cool, I love both
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I wonder if this is truly the Prince's unique ability, or simply an unknown aspect of Zetsu. It reminds me of the time Gon used Zetsu to dodge the tops, back in the arena arc.
Nov 7, 2018 8:17 AM

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I wonder if this is truly the Prince's unique ability, or simply an unknown aspect of Zetsu. It reminds me of the time Gon used Zetsu to dodge the tops, back in the arena arc.

It's really his ability, Gon didn't use a foreshight to dodge the tops, he just hide his aura in order to easily dodge the attack from the tops, although it gets riskier as he doesn't have protection by his nen
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Nov 7, 2018 9:50 AM

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Woah this chapter blew me away. Tserriednich is becoming more and more interesting
Nov 9, 2018 1:51 AM
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I dunno what everyone's fretting about, the fact that it's becoming more like JoJo should probably interest a lot of people.
Nov 10, 2018 2:19 PM

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What an interesting ability this prince has. I really feel bad for Theta.
Sep 13, 2020 4:16 AM

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That guy is becoming stronger and stronger. He’s ability is great and he has two Nen beasts too.
Dec 11, 2020 8:18 AM
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This is just jojo part 5 all over again with a complicated ability that is impossible to understand cuz of the shitty fan translation, lmao.
Jun 30, 2021 12:21 AM

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dam dis sum golden experience requiem shit

hxh jojo referens 😳

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Just a thought... if Kurapika ever faces the 4th prince, i think one of kurapika’s chains will be useful against the prince. The chain with the small metal ball will be able to help locate the “future” prince’s actions.
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So Tserriednich has observation haki lol. This guy is a pure genius with a broken ability? He def looks like the top dog among the Princes, he's way too stronk ;p
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It will be interesting to see how this "King Crimson" ability fares in actual combat once Tserriedrich has mastered Zetsu fully.

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holy shit!!!!
like he wasn't a problem before
this mofo now unlocked king crimson
Sep 16, 2022 5:51 AM
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Pretty cool idea for a chapter. The 4th prince is seriously too OP now...

A crazy guardian spirit, his own conjured nen beast, and now he can see into the future too?? C'mon man
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SquirrelStand said:
I don't see how Kurapika can fight him 1vs1,

yeah, if they don't stop tserrednich on time (pun), it would be too late for kurapika! 😱
AsashiiKimi36 said:
Just a thought... if Kurapika ever faces the 4th prince, i think one of kurapika’s chains will be useful against the prince. The chain with the small metal ball will be able to help locate the “future” prince’s actions.

yeah but, like someone said already here, hxh does rarely have a one on one match, more teamwork wise I guess, I do hope kurapika has indeed something in his chains to countermeasure tser

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He can watch 10 secs in the future also can go to parallel world, amazing power!!!
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