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Oct 16, 2018 11:11 PM
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It seems Goblin Slayer is getting a lot of controversy because of its depiction of rape and genocide. Which means quite a few people out there are quite serious about their own perspective of the real world even when watching fantasy anime.

To be honest, I was completely grossed out when I first read the manga. Luckily, it tones down the raping as it goes along (I relived all the horror when I started Year One spin-off), and I enjoy it overall. With manga, it's easy to forgive one instance. With anime, it gets more difficult.

So what anime did you drop for moral reasons? Here are mine.

Fate/Zero: Caster kills children, in horrific manners no less. It feels both excessive and unnecessary (as said children are not involved in the war, just some bystanders got mixed up). At least the raped girls in Goblin Slayer put up a heroic fight. As a man, I am displeased seeing males killing kids, as child-harming tendencies outside family are generally seen in female in my culture. There is also the reason that all children killed on-screen are boys, which I wasn't ready for compared to girls (I felt extremely uncomfortable watching Madoka Magica, but I got through it in the end).

Gate: It's full of Japanese nationalism. As an Asian myself, when I hear of Japanese nationalism, I think of the 1945 famine which killed 2 million Vietnamese (more deaths than the first Indochina War 1945 - 1954), the rape of Nanking, Bombing of Pearl Harbor, extremely poor treatments of American POWs, and so on. I might be prejudicial here, but can't help it. Nationalism is like your porn stash: it's perfectly fine if you fap with it when no one is looking at, unless you are a loud-mouthed Ivan.

I haven't even started Berserk, but knowing the ending, I would steer away from it.

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Oct 16, 2018 11:21 PM
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Well i think it depicts humans in ways that nobody wants to see.
Violent acts happen all the time, id say so for me to drop an anime from my watching list...it would have 2 be so atrocious. If its part of the story and the story is good then i see no reason.
Ive seen some chapters of Berserk.. that were quite violent,i still like it thought.
I guess it all depends on how someone feels with reading and watching something graphiccc
Oct 16, 2018 11:22 PM
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i watch yosuga no sora because i like white haired girl. and i dropped it the time i realize that this anime is about incest romance
Oct 16, 2018 11:23 PM
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Yes, me too. I dropped goblin slayer just because of the rape scene. I think rape scene on goblin slayer is nonsense.

Another, this one is dropped because it has the same elements about raping. I don't know exactly but i read some spoiler somewhere.
Oct 16, 2018 11:25 PM
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id drop anime outta boredom but not for moral reasons, now that i think about it nowadays i find a bunch of violent anime to be unintentionally hillarous
Oct 16, 2018 11:26 PM
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No, I respect the creators when they make something like op described. I don't care about rape or killing children, if it's there I accept it like being part of that anime universe. Reality is much crueler, my grampa went to war, you can't make anime about war and make it non violent. He had some pretty gruesome stories my grampa.
Oct 16, 2018 11:29 PM
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The only time I will drop an anime for "moral" reasons is if it literally grosses me out from its sadism, like https://myanimelist.net/anime/2981/Chika_Gentou_Gekiga__Shoujo_Tsubaki

It's difficult to disturb me but that anime film did it. I might go and revisit it in the future but for now, it's the only anime I could not stomach.

Otherwise, no, I can usually separate fiction from reality.

Btw, Goblin Slayer "promotes" genocide of fictional monsters, so if that really offends anyone, then they are weak minded. And a species that overwhelmingly slaughters and rapes humans should definitely be annihilated, even if it weren't fiction.
It's such a stupid reason to hate the story, I swear.
Oct 16, 2018 11:34 PM
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Never did and never will. I like to see the lowest of what the people can give, I think that the saying "we all have a monster inside" it's pretty true. I think that I am nicer than most people, and I still get surprised of how cruel or lack of empathy I can show in certain situations(epecially with the amount of duchebags I've been finding).

Btw, in the second episode I felt really human GS's personality. The character development was a lot better than I expected, it was a nice surprise.
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Yes, me too. I dropped goblin slayer just because of the rape scene. I think rape scene on goblin slayer is nonsense.

Another, this one is dropped because it has the same elements about raping. I don't know exactly but i read some spoiler somewhere.
DRoPpEd JuSt BeCAuSe oF tHe RaPe ScENe. Btw Another has literally nothing to do with rape but ok
Oct 16, 2018 11:38 PM
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Can't drop anime because of moral reasons if u dont have any
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bibotot said:
It seems Goblin Slayer is getting a lot of controversy because of its depiction of rape and genocide. Which means quite a few people out there are quite serious about their own perspective of the real world even when watching fantasy anime.

To be honest, I was completely grossed out when I first read the manga. Luckily, it tones down the raping as it goes along (I relived all the horror when I started Year One spin-off), and I enjoy it overall. With manga, it's easy to forgive one instance. With anime, it gets more difficult.

So what anime did you drop for moral reasons? Here are mine.

Fate/Zero: Caster kills children, in horrific manners no less. It feels both excessive and unnecessary (as said children are not involved in the war, just some bystanders got mixed up). There is also the reason that all children killed on-screen are boys, which I wasn't ready for compared to girls (I felt extremely uncomfortable watching Madoka Magica, but I got through it in the end).

Gate: It's full of Japanese nationalism. As an Asian myself, when I hear of Japanese nationalism, I think of the 1945 famine which killed 2 million Vietnamese (more deaths than the first Indochina War 1945 - 1954), the rape of Nanking, Bombing of Pearl Harbor, extremely poor treatments of American POWs, and so on. I might be prejudicial here, but can't help it.

I haven't even started Berserk, but knowing the ending, I would steer away from it.

Do you want to share.


This is just another attempt to hate on other peoples work and act like your on some moral high ground. shows are a reflection of reality and you people can choose to look away but that dose not' stop it from happening. keep the hate to yourself and move on with you'r little perfect world.
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bibotot said:

Gate: It's full of Japanese nationalism. As an Asian myself, when I hear of Japanese nationalism, I think of the 1945 famine which killed 2 million Vietnamese (more deaths than the first Indochina War 1945 - 1954), the rape of Nanking, Bombing of Pearl Harbor, extremely poor treatments of American POWs, and so on. I might be prejudicial here, but can't help it.

Do you want to share.


Nationalism is a fanatism IMO, all the types of fanatism are bad and shouldn't exist. I found that annoying about Gate too even tho I watched it.
Oct 16, 2018 11:42 PM

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man if only Schoolgirl in Concrete / Shin Gendai Ryoukiden got an anime adaptation
Oct 16, 2018 11:54 PM

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I dropped Koi Kaze because of the incest and pedophilia. Mainly the pedophilia
Oct 17, 2018 12:00 AM

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I don't get offended that easily by works of fiction. Same way I am with jokes.
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bibotot said:
Gate: It's full of Japanese nationalism. As an Asian myself, when I hear of Japanese nationalism, I think of the 1945 famine which killed 2 million Vietnamese (more deaths than the first Indochina War 1945 - 1954), the rape of Nanking, Bombing of Pearl Harbor, extremely poor treatments of American POWs, and so on. I might be prejudicial here, but can't help it.

I think the term you are looking for is jingoism which is a type of extreme patriotism which often includes a warlike foreign policy. Anime in general is nationalist. Its not uncommon for to hear nationalist leanings in comedy gags or any anime that portrays a conflict between Japanese and a foreigner. I don't think its a bad thing, however I did get annoyed with the jingoism in gate. Seikaisuru Kado also had the cringe nationalism propaganda where Japan is portrayed as the most benevolent country of the world.
Oct 17, 2018 12:04 AM

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what moral? it just drawing anyway... i've seen and heard even more darker stories than this, and it wasnt drawing... its real human. but i dont stop..
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Oct 17, 2018 12:05 AM

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I'm pretty sure most moral reasons for not watching a source of fiction stems from being sheltered or taking for granted how amazing it is that we're capable of enjoying fiction on a logical level to begin with.

On the first point fiction has never had any obligation to be inoffensive nor an exact 1:1 representation of reality. If you are capable of discerning immoral acts in fiction as immoral then the author has done their job. To eliminate those elements would be tantamount to censorship as those kinds of offensive elements would still exist in the real world despite them not being available anymore in fiction. Both my parents are from Somalia and thank god they got out before the 90s or I'd probably have not made it to the age of 3. And even if I did, being older than 4 years old in 90s Somalia might as well be hell anyway. Fiction allows us to understand all sorts of elemebts of life that we wouldn't encounter otherwise in an engaging way so we may learn through proxy what's right and wrong, and how best to live our lives.

As to the second point, the fact that we're even capable of perceiving imaginary worlds through text, time and sound within sequential art's speech bubbles and gutters and motion through a series of drawings is a miracle and proof that the human brain is not a logic processor. Because if it was our heads would be the size of a 70s server bank and not nearly as effective while also being completely unable to comprehend the appeal of fiction across any medium when any lessons that can be gained from it could be gained in a more direct and less convuluted way through textbooks. Its the fact that our brains aren't logic processors but pattern recognition machines that makes most people OK with violence in fiction as their brain is capable of relating it to other socially acceptable forms of violence like combat sports, police work, war etc. The exception to that, would be rape. People get offended because there is no 1:1 socially acceptable means of rape and so they get offended without understanding that getting the audience offended was exactly the point of the artist. Because its a work of fiction meant to illicit discomfort at a real world occurence without using real people.

Its one thing if the things occuring on screen actually happened to someone directly/or someone you knew in real life as that would be traumatic to see again in fiction for the purpose of entertainment. But condemning a work of fiction on the basis that its offensive isn't something I totally understand.
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Even if i were to drop anime, which i don't, i wouldn't do it for grandstanding.


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But why is your profile not updated ? Do you not care about listing your anime ? Then why you here ? Why making these threads OP ?
Oct 17, 2018 12:36 AM
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I will dropped any anime that showing 2 guy kissing for romance reason.
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Sorry guy but I watch anime for entertainment purposes. So it's not really my business to bring in my moral or political views in it. If there's a little child getting killed or raped in a show, they're all just drawings. I don't really care.
Japanese Nationalism? I don't even know what nationalism means, so whatever.
If there's a incest in an anime... Well incest is wincest ammiright ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Oct 17, 2018 12:48 AM
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Not sure why everyone’s up in arms
They didn’t even show her getting gangfucked
Oct 17, 2018 12:53 AM
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But why is your profile not updated ? Do you not care about listing your anime ? Then why you here ? Why making these threads OP ?


I forgot those emails about the update. I thought they were unimportant. My time spending on this site is sporadic, to say the least. I only return because this season seems good and it makes me want to talk about anime more.

It's like swimming. You can go to the pool (above your height) perfectly fine without knowing how to properly swim, resulting in you flailing around. You will float, but you will win not any swimming gold medal.
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People are too fragile in 2018.

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Oct 17, 2018 1:03 AM

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Noragami comes to my mind I didn't drop it but also don't watch the second season for moral reasons but if any new thing will be announced I will watch it
Oct 17, 2018 1:13 AM
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Dropped The Seven Deadly Sins due to the MC constant groping of Elizabeth and tricking her to show her panties. Made me feel uncomfortable, thats some sexual assault level.
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i dropped slime anime bcuss they teamed up with goblins
hate those bastards now

#goblin slayer
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Fucking sjw snowflake just keep watching unrealistic isekai and harem stop hating
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Dropped The Seven Deadly Sins due to the MC constant groping of Elizabeth and tricking her to show her panties. Made me feel uncomfortable, thats some sexual assault level.
That didn't bother me at all considering 7DS is Ecchi, and they give a reason for it way later on. What did bother me though is how every girl in that show is more or less the exact same, not that i care they're girls it's just lazy storytelling and made things super predictable and boring whenever it concerned those characters.

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i dropped akame ga kill cos they killed the gay character (i know what happens but I’m just tired and he was like the first to go.)
He was like 1 of 2 dudes in that entire anime and was lovable and chad as fuck. Didn't like to see him go, didn't expect it either. I liked the anime more because of it though, people you like aren't invincible because plot.


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Oct 17, 2018 1:27 AM

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I dropped it because I was bored and I hate "mature/edgy" baits like this.
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Oct 17, 2018 1:30 AM
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Watch Gigguk movie about Goblin Slayer :)
I never will drop an anime because of moral problems. That's absurd in my opinion.

About the rape scene - so what? What's the problem? Is it not a thing people do? Yes. It's depictable? Yes. But on this case the point is to give more reason behind the slayer actions.

It's absurd you don't watch an anime because of rape but you watch when it has death - which probably encompasses 50% of all movies, books, anime, tv shows and so on.

So you are against rape scenes on anime but not killing - I wonder which is worst...

Again, don't get me wrong - I think all of these acts are wrong But this is not real. This are anime, movies and tv shows.

People and their SWJ crap are really boring (I am not saying you are - but my god the youtube is being filled with it. The hollywood industry as well... Thank the gods of anime the japanese industry still doesn't really care what we the rest of the world want.

About the nationalism... well that's another story. I liked Gate although I thought they were trying a bit too hard - but hey some hollywood movies do the same.
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i dropped slime anime bcuss they teamed up with goblins
hate those bastards now

#goblin slayer


Haha that was really good... Team Slayer... :D
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Lmao I wonder how many people dropped Berserk then.
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I dropped Berserk 2016 because it was a crime against humanity
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I haven't seen Goblin Slayer but the LN was on my radar at some point, probably bscause I was looking for fantasy setting stuff.

Anyway I do sometimes drop stuff because I get fed up with the fanservice.

I don't blanket dislike sexual content, but just as with everything else, it can be done well or it can be done in ways that annoy me.

On one hand, I've watched Yosuga no Sora, Cross Ange, and other series with sexual/fanservice content, and -- depending on context -- I may have even found it meaningful.

On the other hand, I specifically dropped shows like Valkyrie Drive, Dragonar Academy, and Haganai because of sexual fanservice and/or suggestions within the show relating to it.

There really isn't anything that special about sexual content, other than that various people are sensitive about it, in different ways. I feel that a story like Akashic Records of Bastard Magical Instructor could do without a big chunk of its fanservice, particularly the school uniforms, while I think all of the sex scenes in Yosuga no Sora are directly impactful on the plot due to their emotional value to the characters involved. So, like anything else, it depends on execution.

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Fucking sjw snowflake just keep watching unrealistic isekai and harem stop hating
What, are we not allowed to have our own tastes on fanservice and other sexual content without being flamed as "sjws" or "snowflakes" by anti-SJW crusaders?
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It was 2 seconds. And they didn't even show any of it. Fucking hell, people are weak these days.

As far as the topic goes, I believe using the moral reasoning is one of the weakest and stupidest things one can do when dealing with fiction, but hey. You do you.
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Damn another Goblin Slayer-related thread. (Or at least you got inspired on creating this thread because of Goblin Slayer)


As for this thread. I won't drop it just because of that. I'm a fan of dark-themes and those stuffs are my best interests. You may call me sick but, most of the time, I easily get tired of happy fluffy stuff.


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Until now i dropped one anime ( no game no life ), every time i try to be a good watcher and finish everything i started , but i can't stand incest relations , idk if this is a morale reason.
Btw all anime I've watched are against my religion some of them are racist against my country but that never stop me from watching them , so basically the only reasons I'll drop an anime is (incest,pedophily, homosexuality)
Oct 17, 2018 2:26 AM
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Eghhhhh, iunno, Haruhi S2 might be the closest thing with the movie making arc, which was incredibly infuriating to me.

"Hey kids! If you think Goblin Slayer villainizing it is bad, what if they shift it over a real world setting where they basically drug the girl and then propose a rape scene and then end up guilting the guy saying it was wrong and standing up because the main female is the biggest fucking cunt in the whole medium of entertainment!"

Gah. Sure, there was no cut-away to characters running away before it showed anything except the most base decisive implication of what was about to come, leading to a bunch of twitter drama that vastly overstated its presence and feels entirely fabricated and overwrought and has been since the very fucking inception of the drama, but that Bill Cosby part, even though it was more or less stopped before it could truly start, made me pretty fucking mad on the principle of it alone. Though the fallout of it is really what made me just sick with that series to the point where I wasn't going to toy around with it anymore.

Rape scenes tend to just piss me off at least a little regardless, just on the basis of them being rape scenes - I just really am not into rape though I always welcome tentacle stuff in spite of that, lol - but I can pretty easily live with them still and it's far from a show-ruining irritation or anything. But I hated Haruhi long before this scene and watching Haruhi throw a bitchfit because she couldn't instigate rape just made me want to puke. I cannot deal with that, she should just get shot in the head or something >_>

I *do* think that this is less moral reasons and more "this is the straw that broke the camel's back" type deal and I wouldn't have taken such irritation with it if, y'know, I didn't strongly dislike the rest of the series. But what can ya do.
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Until now i dropped one anime ( no game no life ), every time i try to be a good watcher and finish everything i started , but i can't stand incest relations , idk if this is a morale reason.

You reminded me of the toothbrush scene from nisemonogatari, I too hate incest, I find it disgusting but I didn't drop nise, I accepted their weird relationship and moved on. I tend to avoid incest anime.
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I don't think I have. Well, unless dropping bad shows is to be considered a moral decision. I largely don't have a problem with watching shows featuring downright evil or morally ambiguous characters and actions. All I ask is that they make sense within the context of the show's world and add weight to the story. Mindless murder serves no purpose other than to shock or please the reader.

I know it isn't anime, but just look at Star Wars. Anakin murders an entire class of younglings. While it is shocking and horrible, the massacre serves the purpose of illustrating just how far Anakin has fallen to the Dark Side and is a clear callback to his massacre of the Tusken Raiders (men, women, and children) in Attack of the Clones.

All that said, Higurashi makes me more squeamish than most shows and I don't know why. I think it was the nails in the biscuit scene. It kinda freaked me out and I haven't watched the show since.
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Until now i dropped one anime ( no game no life ), every time i try to be a good watcher and finish everything i started , but i can't stand incest relations , idk if this is a morale reason.
Btw all anime I've watched are against my religion some of them are racist against my country but that never stop me from watching them , so basically the only reasons I'll drop an anime is (incest,pedophily, homosexuality)

Sora and Shiro don't have an incestuous relationship.
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Lol you've dropped Fate zero just because of Caster? He's one of the best characters in the series.
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i dropped slime anime bcuss they teamed up with goblins
hate those bastards now

#goblin slayer


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i dropped akame ga kill cos they killed the gay character (i know what happens but I’m just tired and he was like the first to go.)
and dropped mirai nikki bc of the weird sex dungeon things that happened.

rape and the like are taken very seriously outside of the anime community (and obviously in it with the response to goblin slayer). tho it’s not the only one that’s depicted it, i think it being so graphic and on the very first episode really made people uncomfortable. it’s understandable why people dropped it and warned others about it.

They killed every fucking one, for some reason lmao. That anime is fucked up
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I am taking notes about those... animes :D to research purpose...
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Please do not complain about Ecchi because it's not immoral. A Serbian Film,Where The Dead Go To Die,August Underground and,Vomit Gore Series (all these listed are non Japanese Live action films) are immoral and worse than Ecchi. A Serbian Film (Serbia) which has an infant getting raped and there is a film in America known as Where The Dead Go To Die and that has 12 and under child rape. Vomit Gore series (America) has vomit fetishes and one of them has infant rape. August Underground Mordum (America) has child necrophilic rape. Those are even worse than ecchi.
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I don't drop shows like the people listed because I don't start "edgy" shows aimed at teenagers. So I don't watch gore/horror because it's all so boring.

Made In Abyss did it right by building a world and then using a shocking scene but I would drop it in an instant if every episode was like E10.

So that and anything gay.
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