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changelog said: Pityfool said: I have seen quite a few manga adaptations without actually reading the manga, and I suspect quite a few people are doing the same thing with this adaptation. However, considering that this series was advertised as a Yuri in the cover art, synopsis, and its assigned genres, some people are probably going in expecting something similar to the mess that was Citrus (not to compare the two here), and the first episode-and-a-half has probably confirmed those suspicions for some. All we can really hope for now is that those people who are throwing 1/10 ratings for the suspicion that this is simply Citrus all over again, to give it a few more episodes to prove itself otherwise. Ahah, Citrus. It's no masterpiece but I don't hate the show either. It was actually my first manga, too, hence why it is on my favourites. I agree with what you are saying, though. Shows like Citrus have basically set this image of yuri being a genre where a straight girl is perpetually assaulted by a lesbian until they're both lesbian. Citrus was amazing stfu. Dont say anything about that anime. Its hella good |
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| I can't speak for other people, but I rated low because of the senpai's flagrant disregard for consent. |
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| More people are watching then reading so the score is most likely to be different since theres more different opinions for the anime. Also, its just the first episode or 2, its rare that a non-sequel anime goes more than a 8.00 |
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zaverix said: I can't speak for other people, but I rated low because of the senpai's flagrant disregard for consent. I mean, she is a bit pushy but outside of the first kiss for which she seriously apologized she usually does make sure Yuu is on board before fully committing. I'm sure if Yuu gives her a straight and dead-pan "no" then she would not do whatever was asked. |
giraffemangome said: zaverix said: I can't speak for other people, but I rated low because of the senpai's flagrant disregard for consent. I mean, she is a bit pushy but outside of the first kiss for which she seriously apologized she usually does make sure Yuu is on board before fully committing. I'm sure if Yuu gives her a straight and dead-pan "no" then she would not do whatever was asked. The senpai blurting out her confession was inconsiderate to her feelings, but it was understandable in the moment and wasn't a condemable thing or anything. But taking someone's first kiss who was LITERALLY just expressing how she didn't like her and believed things with two girls wasn't her thing, is a whole other deal. The Senpai ignores her and practically cuts that off to just kiss her quickly without consent, without build up, and without attempting to make her kouhai feel any of the emotions she was feeling in that moment. tldr; She kissed her without consent. She kissed her right after her kouhai said she didn't feel comfortable doing stuff with two girls. She kissed her abruptly without setting any mood at all for this girl super interested in romantic moments. It was all around gross fam |
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changelog said: Don't get me wrong, I really love Citrus. It is by far my favourite yuri anime/manga and this would be my first recommendation to anyone. My message above was just some constructive criticism—that's all. Better :) I don't like people downtalking meimei chan |
| In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful. | You know what I hate the most? People who aren't free. They're no more than cattle. |
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zaverix said: giraffemangome said: I mean, she is a bit pushy but outside of the first kiss for which she seriously apologized she usually does make sure Yuu is on board before fully committing. I'm sure if Yuu gives her a straight and dead-pan "no" then she would not do whatever was asked. The senpai blurting out her confession was inconsiderate to her feelings, but it was understandable in the moment and wasn't a condemable thing or anything. But taking someone's first kiss who was LITERALLY just expressing how she didn't like her and believed things with two girls wasn't her thing, is a whole other deal. The Senpai ignores her and practically cuts that off to just kiss her quickly without consent, without build up, and without attempting to make her kouhai feel any of the emotions she was feeling in that moment. tldr; She kissed her without consent. She kissed her right after her kouhai said she didn't feel comfortable doing stuff with two girls. She kissed her abruptly without setting any mood at all for this girl super interested in romantic moments. It was all around gross fam You're overreacting big time. |
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| Manga obtains less attention. People who seek out the specific manga are the specific audience and thus rate it higher. Anime however does not share this pattern. We have seasonal watchers who will watch just about anything, even those who were not looking for this specific genre of show, thus a larger audience and a larger difference in opinion. This is why manga and especially light novels, are often rated excessively high. |
TsukuyomiREKT said: zaverix said: The senpai blurting out her confession was inconsiderate to her feelings, but it was understandable in the moment and wasn't a condemable thing or anything. But taking someone's first kiss who was LITERALLY just expressing how she didn't like her and believed things with two girls wasn't her thing, is a whole other deal. The Senpai ignores her and practically cuts that off to just kiss her quickly without consent, without build up, and without attempting to make her kouhai feel any of the emotions she was feeling in that moment. tldr; She kissed her without consent. She kissed her right after her kouhai said she didn't feel comfortable doing stuff with two girls. She kissed her abruptly without setting any mood at all for this girl super interested in romantic moments. It was all around gross fam You're overreacting big time. I mean that's your opinion fam. I'm tired of nonconsent being a staple of yaoi or yuri stories. Even if it's just little, it's still a problem in the whole media, so doing it here just perpetuates a bigger issue. |
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zaverix said: The senpai blurting out her confession was inconsiderate to her feelings, but it was understandable in the moment and wasn't a condemable thing or anything. But taking someone's first kiss who was LITERALLY just expressing how she didn't like her and believed things with two girls wasn't her thing, is a whole other deal. The Senpai ignores her and practically cuts that off to just kiss her quickly without consent, without build up, and without attempting to make her kouhai feel any of the emotions she was feeling in that moment. tldr; She kissed her without consent. She kissed her right after her kouhai said she didn't feel comfortable doing stuff with two girls. She kissed her abruptly without setting any mood at all for this girl super interested in romantic moments. It was all around gross fam That is just the state of genre, don't expect it to be changed. |
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zaverix said: I mean that's your opinion fam. I'm tired of nonconsent being a staple of yaoi or yuri stories. Even if it's just little, it's still a problem in the whole media, so doing it here just perpetuates a bigger issue. I agree with you, but just adding here that noncon content doesn't just plague yaoi and yuri. It's everywhere in shoujo/romance/anime in general. At least in this title (so far, who knows) I don't see any deliberate sexual harassment taken for jokes. The way they handled the kiss scene was better than it could have been. (example- I see Gakuen Alice in your favorites. There were tons of gross things happening to 10 y.o Mikan in there.) |
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| Because most people don't rate a show before it's finished; a larger portion of the people that do are the kind who watch EVERY currently-airing show, and then drop most of them after 2-3 episodes and give them low ratings. That negatively impacts the ratings for almost all currently-airing series. |
| Another common factor is that anime has a much wider audience in the sense that people just jump into shows (especially seasonals) without much research or investment just because everyone else is, even if it might be a fairly niche series. On the contrary, a niche manga is most likely only going to be read by people actually interested in that genre since it doesn't have the same status within the community, at least outside of Japan In other words, something as niche as yuri is primarily going to be read by yuri fans in its manga format, but for a seasonal anime such as this there is going to be a significantly larger proportion of general non-yuri fans that picked up the show simply because why not, and thus won't end up fanboying over it to the same extent as easily, which on a global scale will drag the score down a bit relative to its manga counterpart. Here's a good question though; what should actually be considered the more credible score in that case? Something rated by a wider audience or something rated by its main target audience? There are arguments for either side Of course there are numerous other reasons for why an anime adaptation might be lower rated as well: cut content, poor production value, rushing, being a lackluster adaptation in general, as well as the simple fact that the show is still airing and thus has not had its 1/5 rule cut yet (which almost always boosts the score a bit when the series ends). Not saying any of that is necessarily true with this particular anime since I haven't read its source material but those things happen sometimes (quite often really) |
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changelog said: Shows like Citrus have basically set this image of yuri being a genre where a straight girl is perpetually assaulted by a lesbian until they're both lesbian. What kind of shit were you on to think that was the case with Citrus? Yuzu had feelings for Mei long before the first assault. |
Takamura-sama said: changelog said: Ahah, Citrus. It's no masterpiece but I don't hate the show either. It was actually my first manga, too, hence why it is on my favourites. I agree with what you are saying, though. Shows like Citrus have basically set this image of yuri being a genre where a straight girl is perpetually assaulted by a lesbian until they're both lesbian. Citrus was amazing stfu. Dont say anything about that anime. Its hella good Citrus was one of the worst show I've ever seen. And for bisexual&gay people it was even more a garbage shit. One of the worst writing ever, cheap&cliche. I check only the first episode of Yagate but it's far better. |
| Because both are overrated. Manga is just more overrated Citrus is my far the best Yuri anime this year without any rival |
thepath said: Because both are overrated. Manga is just more overrated Citrus is my far the best Yuri anime this year without any rival I disagree with you about the manga, it has great character development and non-standard genre tropes that I personally did not expect from it. Anyway, there are other yuri animes out there besides Citrus and Yagate Kimi Ni Naru :-] Asagao to Kase-san, the OVA adaptation of Kase-san series, is probably the most heartwarming yuri anime out there, and I would argue the best out of all the three big yuri anime adaptations of 2018. It has much better animation than Citrus (no CG crowds, warm, almost painting-like colors) and just serves better as an adaptation, taking material from various manga volumes without damaging the story and its message. Citrus, however, is flawed due to being an incomplete adaptation which will probably never see a sequel. |
Tenderizer17 said: EDIT 2: My complete lack of faith in MAL scores has led me to watch the first episode of everything. I SINCERELY RECOMMEND AGAINST THAT, but I more strongly recommend against taking MAL scores seriously. Even the "if it scores below 7.0, it's garbage" rule (which I have long believed in) has proven not to be viable. Any notable mention of anime below 7.0 that isn't garbage? I'm genuinely curious since most of the show I saw under 7 were actually garbage, would be nice to see an exception outside the rule. --------------------------------- As for why this show is lower rated than the manga? Probably because a lot less watcher are watching it since it isn't licensed by crunchyroll, a lot of watcher doesn't score before it ends and probably a lot of seasonal watcher that tried it didn't like it. There's a lot of variable possible but it shouldn't damper your own enjoyment of the show. |
Tenderizer17 said: Thai777 said: At the time of writing it, some of my favourite anime from my plan to watch list has a score below 7. Love Tyrant didn't have a single good idea aside from it's first episode, Gi(a)rlish Number ended in a very boring way, Samurai Flamenco ended multiple times but still kept going long past when it should've stopped, Kuma Miko had all it's good jokes concentrated in the first episode and Mayoiga ... it's complicated.Any notable mention of anime below 7.0 that isn't garbage? I'm genuinely curious since most of the show I saw under 7 were actually garbage, would be nice to see an exception outside the rule. The only decent anime with scores below 7 were ones I had already seen at the time. Sekaisuru KADO was an anime I stopped watching partway through as per the recommendation of literally everyone (I went with 8 episodes but everyone seems to be saying 10 episodes). Eromanga-sensei is quite an entertaining experience aswell. Aiura is also pretty short and entertaining. Aside from the three above, I recommend the first 10 episodes of Samurai Flamenco and the first episodes of Kuma Miko and Love Tyrant (as well as that of Mitsudomoe and Gugure! Kokkuri-san). There's also a short film called Keifuku-san and Blood C is a pretty fun experience. If you're feeling especially adventurous, consider Mayoiga (another anime with a first episode alone that's better than the series, but the series itself is not too bad). Hm I was wondering more about an anime that was actually decent throughout the whole anime instead of having part of them being good, I'll keep some of those anime in mind though thanks. |
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