Tokyo Ghoul:re Chapter 172 Discussion

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THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER.
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What a last laugh!

The scene with Kaneki cracking his fingers though. Hype. I want to see a brutal battle like the ones we're getting already.

May 14, 2018 7:56 AM

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Godly is the only conceivable way to describe this

May 14, 2018 8:09 AM

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Since 143 came, I've been praying that this day will come; the day Kaneki makes Furuta pay for his sins and kills him way so slowly and painfully. Please Ishida grant me my wish. I want to see another Kaneki-screwing-Ayato shit again, but this time 10x more brutal.

b-okiyaMay 14, 2018 8:22 AM

May 14, 2018 8:09 AM

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Another amazing chapter.

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May 14, 2018 8:15 AM

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Such an ending for Donato. He still feels moved.

Kaneki vs Furuta! Great, can't wait when Furuta getting serious. How strong he is, like he must be really strong for "Boss", and defeated Eto too `L_`

May 14, 2018 8:19 AM

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Man What a chapter this was

First of all the farewell between Amon & Donato was neatly done.Inspite of everything that happened he still loves Donato.Donato too was crying when he was dying.

Secondly,the moments between Touka and Saiko were so sweet.I really loved that part.

And ultimately, the final confrontation between Kaneki & Furuta.It seems Kaneki healed and reached another level compared to what he was in his fight against Suzuya when he sick and malnourished. Furuta is no doubt strong too but I feel Kaneki will win ultimately.

May 14, 2018 8:21 AM

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This chapter was... well, half-half. The first half was just terrible. I mean, come on, now ghouls can stay alive even when they get decapitated? What a load of bullshit that was. The second half, on the other hand, was awesome. Kaneki finally got serious. But what was that attack? Was that Furuta or Rize/Dragon?

May 14, 2018 8:28 AM

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That final moment between Donato and Amon was simply amazing.

Here's hoping Kaneki can actually stand a chance against Furuta and kill that son of a bitch, I can't stand him anymore.

May 14, 2018 9:03 AM

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Donato.. why get killed too early, man. I still have a lot of questions. Fuck. Why

May 14, 2018 9:49 AM

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Lol, Furuta always finds a way to make things hilarious.

"At some point, I stopped hoping."

May 14, 2018 9:52 AM

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Aezeryel said:
This chapter was... well, half-half. The first half was just terrible. I mean, come on, now ghouls can stay alive even when they get decapitated? What a load of bullshit that was. The second half, on the other hand, was awesome. Kaneki finally got serious. But what was that attack? Was that Furuta or Rize/Dragon?

Yeah ghouls live when they're decapitated that's only if they return to their body in a short time, you would notice Donato is actually dead from that (him being decapitated) so what's your point? Did you mean how can he talk? Then I would ask the same, how can he talk when he's decapitated?

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May 14, 2018 10:04 AM

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It was really worrying when it started to parallel Furutas fight with Eto but now be got badass Kaneki and he means business. Now how am I gonna wait for next week.

May 14, 2018 10:10 AM

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Aezeryel said:
This chapter was... well, half-half. The first half was just terrible. I mean, come on, now ghouls can stay alive even when they get decapitated? What a load of bullshit that was. The second half, on the other hand, was awesome. Kaneki finally got serious. But what was that attack? Was that Furuta or Rize/Dragon?

Think that was Dragon since the Kagune that impaled Kaneki wasn't connected to Furuta. It looked like it came from behind him.

May 14, 2018 10:37 AM

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NarukoOtaku said:

Aezeryel said:
This chapter was... well, half-half. The first half was just terrible. I mean, come on, now ghouls can stay alive even when they get decapitated? What a load of bullshit that was. The second half, on the other hand, was awesome. Kaneki finally got serious. But what was that attack? Was that Furuta or Rize/Dragon?

Yeah ghouls live when they're decapitated that's only if they return to their body in a short time, you would notice Donato is actually dead from that (him being decapitated) so what's your point? Did you mean how can he talk? Then I would ask the same, how can he talk when he's decapitated?

If I remember correctly, Noro was the only one other than Donato shown being able to that, and Noro was already a dead ghoul controlled by Eto's kagune, so that doesn't count. That's why I said it's complete bullshit. The 10 minute conversation just adds upon that.

May 14, 2018 10:38 AM

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Varris said:

Aezeryel said:
This chapter was... well, half-half. The first half was just terrible. I mean, come on, now ghouls can stay alive even when they get decapitated? What a load of bullshit that was. The second half, on the other hand, was awesome. Kaneki finally got serious. But what was that attack? Was that Furuta or Rize/Dragon?

Think that was Dragon since the Kagune that impaled Kaneki wasn't connected to Furuta. It looked like it came from behind him.

I'm thinking that as well, but I wasn't sure. How come Furuta can control her/it to attack?

May 14, 2018 10:41 AM

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Furuta nuts as always.

Lets see can Kaneki do something this time. Still think Furuta will overpower him.

May 14, 2018 11:28 AM

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Kaneki has cracked his finger, Kaneki vs Furuta round 2

May 14, 2018 11:55 AM

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Come on Kaneki! Put an end to that idiot! Im fucking tired of him.

Kinda disappointed in the way donato went out. Well whatever, it is what it is. Ishida has done this with tatara, roma, uta, and now donato.

May 14, 2018 12:19 PM

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Aezeryel said:

NarukoOtaku said:

Yeah ghouls live when they're decapitated that's only if they return to their body in a short time, you would notice Donato is actually dead from that (him being decapitated) so what's your point? Did you mean how can he talk? Then I would ask the same, how can he talk when he's decapitated?

If I remember correctly, Noro was the only one other than Donato shown being able to that, and Noro was already a dead ghoul controlled by Eto's kagune, so that doesn't count. That's why I said it's complete bullshit. The 10 minute conversation just adds upon that.

What about Kanae? And those who got their necks broken like: Kurona and Aura?
And that conversation is just 3 mintues long at best (Donato and Amon).

May 14, 2018 12:39 PM

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NarukoOtaku said:

Aezeryel said:

If I remember correctly, Noro was the only one other than Donato shown being able to that, and Noro was already a dead ghoul controlled by Eto's kagune, so that doesn't count. That's why I said it's complete bullshit. The 10 minute conversation just adds upon that.

What about Kanae? And those who got their necks broken like: Kurona and Aura?
And that conversation is just 3 mintues long at best (Donato and Amon).

Kanae was alive, but she was also implanted with Eto's kagune. Broken neck does not equal severed head. And that's a bullshit of its own, considering a ghoul died from a broken neck (Ganbo from the Clowns), but a f*cking Quinx survives. As for Kurona, I don't remember her having her neck broken, but regardless it's still bullshit.
Half a minute, 3 minutes, 2 hours, doesn't matter. He should have been dead and that is pure bullshit. Nothing can justify that.

May 14, 2018 12:45 PM

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how could donato even talk in that state? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
and i love that kaneki is just straightforward like that, no more bullshit explanatory panels

May 14, 2018 12:51 PM

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Aezeryel said:

NarukoOtaku said:

What about Kanae? And those who got their necks broken like: Kurona and Aura?
And that conversation is just 3 mintues long at best (Donato and Amon).

Kanae was alive, but she was also implanted with Eto's kagune. Broken neck does not equal severed head. And that's a bullshit of its own, considering a ghoul died from a broken neck (Ganbo from the Clowns), but a f*cking Quinx survives. As for Kurona, I don't remember her having her neck broken, but regardless it's still bullshit.
Half a minute, 3 minutes, 2 hours, doesn't matter. He should have been dead and that is pure bullshit. Nothing can justify that.

Being able to make an exact complete living clone > living a bit with your body severed. It's not that crazy after seeing he can create full living human beings.

May 14, 2018 1:39 PM

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lelouchvkekistan said:

Aezeryel said:

Kanae was alive, but she was also implanted with Eto's kagune. Broken neck does not equal severed head. And that's a bullshit of its own, considering a ghoul died from a broken neck (Ganbo from the Clowns), but a f*cking Quinx survives. As for Kurona, I don't remember her having her neck broken, but regardless it's still bullshit.
Half a minute, 3 minutes, 2 hours, doesn't matter. He should have been dead and that is pure bullshit. Nothing can justify that.

Being able to make an exact complete living clone > living a bit with your body severed. It's not that crazy after seeing he can create full living human beings.

The clone concept itself is bullshit, but I accepted it cause of the possibility of him being a OEG. But this is a very new level of bullshit. It's like Ishida is trying to surpass the level of bullshit Fairy Tail and Bleach offered in their last arcs.

May 14, 2018 2:05 PM

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“CRAZY SHIT IT IS, THEN!”

Man do I love Furuta’s antics, if he weren’t so much of a stu he’d be a great character.

Kaneki’s no chill personality was great too, let’s hope he doesn’t get cucked again by Furuta because I honestly don’t think I can take it again

May 14, 2018 2:21 PM

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Plz, Ken you kill him this time?

I see what you did there hahahahahahah.

May 14, 2018 2:23 PM

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Aezeryel said:

The clone concept itself is bullshit, but I accepted it cause of the possibility of him being a OEG. But this is a very new level of bullshit. It's like Ishida is trying to surpass the level of bullshit Fairy Tail and Bleach offered in their last arcs.

Narrative-wise, it doesn't really make a difference since he died shortly after anyways... It would've been better if Donato just lost half of his torso or his lower half, but this is hardly any FT bullshit.

May 14, 2018 2:35 PM

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ImbalancedEmblem said:

Aezeryel said:

The clone concept itself is bullshit, but I accepted it cause of the possibility of him being a OEG. But this is a very new level of bullshit. It's like Ishida is trying to surpass the level of bullshit Fairy Tail and Bleach offered in their last arcs.

Narrative-wise, it doesn't really make a difference since he died shortly after anyways... It would've been better if Donato just lost half of his torso or his lower half, but this is hardly any FT bullshit.

It could have been and should have been done better. Don't worry, there's still time for FT epic level of bullshit. For all we know, Kaiko might drop a kakuja in the next couple of chapters.

May 14, 2018 2:40 PM

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Aezeryel said:

NarukoOtaku said:

What about Kanae? And those who got their necks broken like: Kurona and Aura?
And that conversation is just 3 mintues long at best (Donato and Amon).

Kanae was alive, but she was also implanted with Eto's kagune. Broken neck does not equal severed head. And that's a bullshit of its own, considering a ghoul died from a broken neck (Ganbo from the Clowns), but a f*cking Quinx survives. As for Kurona, I don't remember her having her neck broken, but regardless it's still bullshit.
Half a minute, 3 minutes, 2 hours, doesn't matter. He should have been dead and that is pure bullshit. Nothing can justify that.

It's not about justifying, it's a thing that manga uses imagination always and that's okay and mangas shouldn't be called out for this, but don't go overboard, even TG has it's limits and that's what I wanted to point that out.

May 14, 2018 3:02 PM

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NarukoOtaku said:

Aezeryel said:

Kanae was alive, but she was also implanted with Eto's kagune. Broken neck does not equal severed head. And that's a bullshit of its own, considering a ghoul died from a broken neck (Ganbo from the Clowns), but a f*cking Quinx survives. As for Kurona, I don't remember her having her neck broken, but regardless it's still bullshit.
Half a minute, 3 minutes, 2 hours, doesn't matter. He should have been dead and that is pure bullshit. Nothing can justify that.

It's not about justifying, it's a thing that manga uses imagination always and that's okay and mangas shouldn't be called out for this, but don't go overboard, even TG has it's limits and that's what I wanted to point that out.

The point is that this surpasses the limits. This defies the logic of ghouls physiology we've been given. I'm gonna keep calling it out for what it is, bullshit. I'm not gonna change my mind simply because of "imagination".

May 14, 2018 3:51 PM

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Aezeryel said:

Varris said:

Think that was Dragon since the Kagune that impaled Kaneki wasn't connected to Furuta. It looked like it came from behind him.

I'm thinking that as well, but I wasn't sure. How come Furuta can control her/it to attack?

Rize isn't connected to the dragon mass anymore so I don't think it's her. Most likely, it was a reaction to Ken's attack just secs before.. Remember that the dragon mass doesn't really like anything going on around it.

Koto and Juri and Ruka oh my!

May 14, 2018 5:26 PM

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Glad this manga is picking up towards the big final.

Donatos last moments were very fitting, a worthy end.

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May 14, 2018 6:49 PM

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I would have had more feels for Amon's farewell to Donato if there were flashback moments, but nonetheless, I think Ishida had a suitable portrayal. When Amon recalled the tasty donuts Donato used to make as snacks, the blankets Donato brought in during cold nights, and when Donato built the grave for their dog that passed away... It makes sense for Amon to cling to these memories because they made him feel content and loved by Donato.

Amon's question, "Is it a son's fault for loving his father?" with tears down his cheeks was a genuine confession, which Amon needed to let off his chest in order to move on from Donato, and perhaps it made Donato's departure easier too. It's conflicting for Amon... Amon tried so hard to hate Donato and tried to turn that hatred into passion to kill ghouls, yet all that hatred came from the love he had for Donato that he could never erase... Deep.

Donato cried as he laughed and left the world... I think Donato was touched by Amon's sincerity, but he was at a loss of what to say. No matter how much harm Donato has done to humans and even contributing to this destruction of the world, I doubt he expected to be loved by someone... I think Donato wasn't 100% cruel then.

Furuta's ridiculous monologues.... I don't know what to say about them. Kaneki just wants Furuta dead without asking for an explanation. Let's see Kaneki kill Furuta then!

And I hope we find out what happened to Ayato.... T>T Why does Ishida like to put Ayato to the side so much??

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May 14, 2018 7:31 PM

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Aezeryel said:
This chapter was... well, half-half. The first half was just terrible. I mean, come on, now ghouls can stay alive even when they get decapitated? What a load of bullshit that was. The second half, on the other hand, was awesome. Kaneki finally got serious. But what was that attack? Was that Furuta or Rize/Dragon?

We got Noro in the first manga who was decapitated then reattached his head. Kanae can do that too, she was decapitated by Haise. There is no surprised that some ghouls have insane vitality. But it is not like Donato can live after that though, he is dead. It is like a cockroach. You decapitated, the head is still alive but will eventually die.

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May 14, 2018 8:46 PM

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The Final moment between Donato and Amon was nice and all, but still... his death felt too fast.
Furuta though, he is amazing as usual

lol

Fingers have been cracked, i expect something badass

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May 15, 2018 5:46 AM

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Donato's last moments were hard to watch and that conecpt behind his philosophy was really amazing Ishia I will say it again you are a genius. 6/5

May 15, 2018 7:23 AM

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furata is the greatest troll ever him running away whilst giving his own dialogue xD

May 15, 2018 7:44 AM

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James_xeno said:

Aezeryel said:

I'm thinking that as well, but I wasn't sure. How come Furuta can control her/it to attack?

Rize isn't connected to the dragon mass anymore so I don't think it's her. Most likely, it was a reaction to Ken's attack just secs before.. Remember that the dragon mass doesn't really like anything going on around it.

True, though it quite conveniently hit just Kaneki and not Furuta along with him.

May 15, 2018 7:47 AM

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Himawari9 said:

Aezeryel said:
This chapter was... well, half-half. The first half was just terrible. I mean, come on, now ghouls can stay alive even when they get decapitated? What a load of bullshit that was. The second half, on the other hand, was awesome. Kaneki finally got serious. But what was that attack? Was that Furuta or Rize/Dragon?

We got Noro in the first manga who was decapitated then reattached his head. Kanae can do that too, she was decapitated by Haise. There is no surprised that some ghouls have insane vitality. But it is not like Donato can live after that though, he is dead. It is like a cockroach. You decapitated, the head is still alive but will eventually die.

As I've sad already in my other replies, Noro was already ded and was merely being controlled by Eto's kagune, and Kanae was also implanted with Eto's kagune. Yeah, because vitality means much when there is no blood coming to your brain and you have nothing to breathe with....

May 15, 2018 12:21 PM

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Aezeryel said:

Himawari9 said:

We got Noro in the first manga who was decapitated then reattached his head. Kanae can do that too, she was decapitated by Haise. There is no surprised that some ghouls have insane vitality. But it is not like Donato can live after that though, he is dead. It is like a cockroach. You decapitated, the head is still alive but will eventually die.

As I've sad already in my other replies, Noro was already ded and was merely being controlled by Eto's kagune, and Kanae was also implanted with Eto's kagune. Yeah, because vitality means much when there is no blood coming to your brain and you have nothing to breathe with....

Did you completely ignore Nico at the beginning of the chapter who took his kagune out and went up to Donato's head? He clearly did something (infusing RC cells) to help him live just a little bit longer, all he could probably do. Hence why he didn't heal him completely and leave together with him.

May 15, 2018 12:26 PM

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Lemonraj said:

Aezeryel said:

As I've sad already in my other replies, Noro was already ded and was merely being controlled by Eto's kagune, and Kanae was also implanted with Eto's kagune. Yeah, because vitality means much when there is no blood coming to your brain and you have nothing to breathe with....

Did you completely ignore Nico at the beginning of the chapter who took his kagune out and went up to Donato's head? He clearly did something (infusing RC cells) to help him live just a little bit longer, all he could probably do. Hence why he didn't heal him completely and leave together with him.

You mean the part where it's not actually shown that he did anything useful? Oh and since when do RC cells give your brain ability to function without blood and oxygen?

May 15, 2018 12:39 PM

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Aezeryel said:

Lemonraj said:

Did you completely ignore Nico at the beginning of the chapter who took his kagune out and went up to Donato's head? He clearly did something (infusing RC cells) to help him live just a little bit longer, all he could probably do. Hence why he didn't heal him completely and leave together with him.

You mean the part where it's not actually shown that he did anything useful? Oh and since when do RC cells give your brain ability to function without blood and oxygen?

I'm talking about the part where you should be able to put two and two together. I'm not sure exactly what Nico did, take my parentheses with a grain of salt, but it's clear he did do something with his kagune to Donato. It's just strange to me that you didn't consider it anywhere in this thread at all, regardless of it not being explicitly shown. I also don't know how you can call the whole scene itself terrible because of that, ignoring everything the scene accomplished with those two characters. It was an entirely perfect conclusion thematically

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May 15, 2018 2:23 PM

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Lemonraj said:

Aezeryel said:

You mean the part where it's not actually shown that he did anything useful? Oh and since when do RC cells give your brain ability to function without blood and oxygen?

I'm talking about the part where you should be able to put two and two together. I'm not sure exactly what Nico did, take my parentheses with a grain of salt, but it's clear he did do something with his kagune to Donato. It's just strange to me that you didn't consider it anywhere in this thread at all, regardless of it not being explicitly shown. I also don't know how you can call the whole scene itself terrible because of that, ignoring everything the scene accomplished with those two characters. It was an entirely perfect conclusion thematically

Okay, let's say Nico did do something. If we take Banjou's kagune for comparison (which seems near identical as far as I could see), we can presume that the ability of Nico's kagune is to restore RC cells. So, to repeat my question which you didn't answer, since when do RC cells give your brain ability to function without blood and oxygen?
And just to be clear, I never said I have any problem with the resolution between them itself. My arguments referred solely to the impossible feat of Donato staying alive for several minutes with his head severed.

May 15, 2018 2:37 PM

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Donato's death was unexpectedly touching. Fitting end for his character I would say.
I loved ''Don't care'' moment. Kaneki going in with no questions asked, that's what I love. That finger crack at the end got me hyped.

May 15, 2018 3:14 PM

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The moment between Donato and Amon was the best part of the chapter. It's such a good end for their relationship. You know the fight next chapter with Kaneki and Furuta is gonna be good!!

May 16, 2018 5:43 AM

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Such a beautiful chapter! Neat conclusion for Amon and Donato.
Can't wait to see Kaneki to get rekt to death once again.

I just realized that all of my favorite characters, beside being stunningly beautiful, also happen to be exceptionally skilled murder machines. \('-')/

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May 16, 2018 9:43 AM

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Muonnai said:
Am i the only one who loves Furuta???
I really want Furuta to win this battle, i really want to see Furuta beat the shit out of Kaneki...

omg you stole my line lmao.

Here I thought I'm the only one thinking that!!

Btw,
- I think Donato died too fast, and it's weird seeing him talk with only head. But I still got teary eyed at Amon's confession so it's all good I guess. It's not the first time a ghoul pull something ridiculous either
- I love Furuta and I'm rooting for him!

May 16, 2018 11:33 PM

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I really like the build up to the fight with Furuta, especially because he was such a wimp before.

May 17, 2018 12:20 AM

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What's written under the left eye of Furuta in the last page? Tx

May 17, 2018 11:03 PM

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A touching resolution between Amon and Donato. Donato's crying laugh, realizing that Amon still treated him as a father, even after all his evil deeds.

Hanged man vs. reverse hanged man again, I wonder who will win. That grin of furuta, after fooling around, then saying his actually strong might be true. I wanna see kaneki do a full kakuja mode.

Masochis4a said:
What's written under the left eye of Furuta in the last page? Tx

It looks like written as GRIN, his face is grinning, so maybe that's why.

May 17, 2018 11:28 PM

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Kankei doing his signature crack excited me and I can't wait for the next chapter.
Furuta's monologues and additional comments made the interaction between the two that much better.

Heckle was here...

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