| Is this a viable argument or just fanbois reaching? My opinion - The statement pisses me off. How can anyone think this is validation for what is presented? Is this statement made to defend the product or the things you enjoy? Your thoughts? |
harshtruthFeb 22, 2018 10:03 AM
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| overthinking ordinary anime leads to negative opinions or such you should save your brain power for actually complex shows like occultic nine and mayoiga |
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| I think the most important thing if to enjoy an anime and of course if you're trying to be a critic it'll make it worse, after all anime is made for entertainment... BUT that doesn't mean something enjoyable is automatically good. What I'm trying to say is be sure to ENJOY but recognise what is good and what is bad - even if it's your favourite anime. It isn't a valiad justifaction when rating an anime but is a decent view to take in order to enjoy "bad" anime. |
| This statement is so bullshit... If you "turn your brain off" you're basically negating your taste. Basically it's like saying you to watch this and enjoy it and if you don't you have to turn your brain off and don't think about it's flaws or it's disturbingness. (The link is to Utsu Musume Sayuri, a really weird "anime". Try turning your brain off while watching and you will understand what I'm saying. It's very very disturbing so I warn you) There is another meaning to the statement however. It's true that you don't have to think "Wow, this is so bad-written. I hate this." and hate it just because it's bad-written, but you have to hate it because this bad-writteness mess with your intelligence or something like that (if you are that kind of person). In other words, don't let the crticial quality of a show affect your enjoyment if you really like show. |
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| I don’t think it’s a viable argument, and I think it misrepresents what they mean when they say that. It’d probably be more accurate to say something along the lines of “I am not someone who nit picks things in entertainment, the criticisms that this show/movie recieve do not affect my enjoyment of it” *¯_(ツ)_/¯ I think it devolves into “turn your brain off” for a quick little thing to say in dumb arguments about entertainment lol |
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| Anyone who says that should just stop saying it Just say yeah man I know its stupid but the rest is good for this and this reason so Im fine with dat |
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romagia said: I don't see it as over-thinking. It's just addressing obvious issues that people tell you to ignore.overthinking ordinary anime leads to negative opinions or such you should save your brain power for actually complex shows like occultic nine and mayoiga Antimeta said: Yeah. It's not the issues you find that you have to sit and rewatch with a pen and paper but the ones staring you directly in the face. Sometimes the problem is the selling point of the showI think the most important thing if to enjoy an anime and of course if you're trying to be a critic it'll make it worse, after all anime is made for entertainment... BUT that doesn't mean something enjoyable is automatically good. What I'm trying to say is be sure to ENJOY but recognise what is good and what is bad - even if it's your favourite anime. It isn't a valiad justifaction when rating an anime but is a decent view to take in order to enjoy "bad" anime. SuzuMine-chan said: DB is one of my favourite franchises but I can't ignore the blatant garbage on display anymore.This statement is so bullshit... If you "turn your brain off" you're basically negating your taste. Basically it's like saying you to watch this and enjoy it and if you don't you have to turn your brain off and don't think about it's flaws or it's disturbingness. (The link is to Utsu Musume Sayuri, a really weird "anime". Try turning your brain off while watching and you will understand what I'm saying. It's very very disturbing so I warn you) There is another meaning to the statement however. It's true that you don't have to think "Wow, this is so bad-written. I hate this." and hate it just because it's bad-written, but you have to hate it because this bad-writteness mess with your intelligence or something like that (if you are that kind of person). In other words, don't let the crticial quality of a show affect your enjoyment if you really like show. _Yuna_ said: Probably started off as a lowkey straw man's argument but it's starting to become a literal statementI don’t think it’s a viable argument, and I think it misrepresents what they mean when they say that. It’d probably be more accurate to say something along the lines of “I am not someone who nit picks things in entertainment, the criticisms that this show/movie recieve do not affect my enjoyment of it” *¯_(ツ)_/¯ I think it devolves into “turn your brain off” for a quick little thing to say in dumb arguments about entertainment lol Deknijff said: YesAnyone who says that should just stop saying it Just say yeah man I know its stupid but the rest is good for this and this reason so Im fine with dat |
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| Its an argument people use when they don't have any arguments. Commonly used by SAO fanboys when they cant deny facts about the show |
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harshtruth said: Is this a viable argument or just fanbois reaching? My opinion - The statement pisses me off. How can anyone think this is validation for what is presented? Is this statement made to defend the product or the things you enjoy? Your thoughts? Well My Reaction towards that statement would be "I need my brain turned on in order to enjoy things, if it is turned of I would die" Turn of your brain is a statement that Literally says that the show is bad. |
| It's dumb argument but to be fair people turn their brain off when they watch CGDCT and ecchi right? I don't think it's a good thing in all cases though lol |
| I won't really use this statement to defend certain shows, however I might use it for people that overthink some shows way too much. People who are easily offended or those who seek absolute realism in a show with supernatural element may need to stop digging supposed flaws in something that had other intention. |
| Well I think this sentence is meant to make people watch simple fun shows but sadly is nowadays often used to excuse shows with writing problems, nonsensical character actions and plot holes |
| You're over-thinking a phrase that's been commonly used as short-hand for "don't over-think this, turn off your inner pedantic". I'm not even sure what to feel about that and I'm one of the most pedantic bastard in the whole wide world. |
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| A show being garbage is to be decided by the individual. And even if you ''turn off your brain'' a show can still be garbage. The statement is I think mostly used by people that don't really take certain anime serious. And that's cool, it means that they find enjoyment in what they see, even if I can't see the enjoymeny. And If they enjoy it then that's the important part in the end right? I mean, not every anime has to have a "deep message" and has to be "thought provoking". Hell I gave Bobobo a 10/10. That anime was so FUCKING DUMB. Like insultingly DUMB. But I found enjoyment in the end, due to it's randomness. I can't get mad at you if you use this arguement. Just because you enjoy something, doesn't mean everyone else should enjoy it. And if you hate something, it doesn't mean the rest should too. Even if I don't agree with you in the end, it's not my business to tell people what they should and shouldn't watch. Everyone's different. |
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| They're obviously saying that you have to be stupid/retarded to enjoy it. |
| Wait, what triggers you again? MAL AD in a nutshell? The entire internet? Ohhh well, let's ignore all those shit and continue shitting on X anime. |
| While I do sort of get what people are trying to say when using that argument, I find it pretty poorly phrased. It seems like their main point is that the show in question may have some obvious bad writing elements such as plot holes/conveniences, underdeveloped characters, over-reliance on tropes... (or maybe just simple writing) it still has qualities that make it enjoyable (qualities that the average wannabe analytical reviewer may call "shallow") such has great production values, interesting ideas... I say it's badly phrased because if a show has elements that make it good despite being dumb I want to hear what those elements are not just that they're here. So whenever someone says "turn your brain off" the only thing that comes across is that he/she can't pinpoint what makes the show enjoyable and therefore has no argument to present. It's not even an argument, it's an excuse for enjoying a show you can't defend. Mind you, people who immediately jump on the "people have different tastes duh" boat aren't better. Btw, DouchebagChocolat shat on that argument years ago |
| This is what literally i did if i found myself trapped on things called "shit anime". I turned my brain off with many things that makes how bad the series is and enjoy it. But i must overthink about one or few thing(s) about something good in that anime in order to enjoy it too. Which in this case i must turned my brain on. So with this opinion, i'm on middle |
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| Most people hate their lives so when they watch something they don'T want to think. They don't even really watch the show or film. They just let it wash over them. That's really what turning your brain off is. |
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harshtruth said: Yeah, and you're doing well. The fact that it's bad doesn't make you dislike it, right? That's what I think everyone should do.SuzuMine-chan said: DB is one of my favourite franchises but I can't ignore the blatant garbage on display anymore.This statement is so bullshit... If you "turn your brain off" you're basically negating your taste. Basically it's like saying you to watch this and enjoy it and if you don't you have to turn your brain off and don't think about it's flaws or it's disturbingness. (The link is to Utsu Musume Sayuri, a really weird "anime". Try turning your brain off while watching and you will understand what I'm saying. It's very very disturbing so I warn you) There is another meaning to the statement however. It's true that you don't have to think "Wow, this is so bad-written. I hate this." and hate it just because it's bad-written, but you have to hate it because this bad-writteness mess with your intelligence or something like that (if you are that kind of person). In other words, don't let the crticial quality of a show affect your enjoyment if you really like show. You need critical thinking in order to say if a show is good or bad, but you certainly don't have to use it in order to say what you like. It may be related? Yes. But it doesn't have to always be like "I only like good shows. I hate all bad shows". For example: I like SAO, and it's very bad. I dislike Wolf Children but it's very good. |
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romagia said: I see what you did there ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)you should save your brain power for actually complex shows like occultic nine and mayoiga |
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| I think it completely depends on the situation, the person's mood at the time, and the series in question. |
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Aslt said: It's basically an insult... at least that's how I see it. Yep. And you won't be able to bring about the artist dormant inside you. I thought 002 was only changing 016. But it looks like she got her horns deep inside you too for having you become such a quality artist. :P |
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| I can't turn my brain off even if i try |
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| all you can do is to ignore those people. it's not even an argument imo. |
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Frectus said: I kinda enjoyed SAO but still glaring issues that I couldn't even start S2Its an argument people use when they don't have any arguments. Commonly used by SAO fanboys when they cant deny facts about the show Aslt said: Best taste isn't a blessing most are born withIt's basically an insult... at least that's how I see it. _Ako_ said: Since you seem triggered by me in general, I could ask you the same but I don't care enough to continue that back-and-forth garbage convoWait, what triggers you again? MAL AD in a nutshell? The entire internet? Ohhh well, let's ignore all those shit and continue shitting on X anime. StarSwoardsman said: Can't really say that but being so easily amused is definitely a bad thing but whatever sells amirite?Most people hate their lives so when they watch something they don'T want to think. They don't even really watch the show or film. They just let it wash over them. That's really what turning your brain off is. |
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| I am going to watch the show the way I want so... no thanks. I will do it only if the anime itself manages to put me in the situation not to think about it and just enjoy what I see. |
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| Honestly though I don't like turning my brain off, it ruins the enjoyment of a show but sometimes I do take the plot too seriously lol |
| @harshtruth I'm triggered by what about you again? Not that hard to recycle garbage threads if you ask me. Well do your best! Fighto! Fighto! |
| Yes me myself can't seem to turn off my brain and watch it for the sake of watching. If it's not entertaining according to my taste, then I will drop it to avoid wasting my precious time for another good anime to give me positive vibes. |
| I'm an individual of the human race; I'm sorry but I can't avoid using my brain. If I 'turn it off' wouldn't that instantly make me 10/10 every show? following the same logic... |
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tragedydesu said: Tsundere thing still has you huh? Keep fighting the systemI can't turn my brain off even if i try Can't. One cockroach you can but they're everywhere now zal said: That's SAO for meI am going to watch the show the way I want so... no thanks. I will do it only if the anime itself manages to put me in the situation not to think about it and just enjoy what I see. Spades said: TBH, most of my hatred will be solved with a simple solution that may never in come.Honestly though I don't like turning my brain off, it ruins the enjoyment of a show but sometimes I do take the plot too seriously lol topazio said: For me it depends on the characters and how they're handled. If they don't annoy me, I can be pretty forgiving about the BS plot and inconsistencies. Welp, I don't mind sometimes shutting my brain off so I can enjoy certain shows. However, if I need to become analogue to a potato to enjoy a certain show, I would certainly not use that as a way to defend it. If that's an argument, it does the complete opposite of its intention. |
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harshtruth said: "turn your brain off" is the rallying cry of the lazy and the easily-offended.Is this a viable argument or just fanbois reaching? My opinion - The statement pisses me off. How can anyone think this is validation for what is presented? Is this statement made to defend the product or the things you enjoy? Your thoughts? |
| There is absolutely no reason why I should accept "turn your brain off" as a valid excuse to defend a poor show. ~ blatant ad: https://myanimelist.net/blog/Crusader_8 I spend the time to write it, so please read it lol |
| If you have to ask someone to turn their brain off while watching a show, you're basically admitting that the show doesn't make any sense. |
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harshtruth said: tragedydesu said: Tsundere thing still has you huh? Keep fighting the systemI can't turn my brain off even if i try yep x) don't worry i'll keep giving every anime with tsundere female lead a 1/10 i'll keep fighting until i die !! |
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Crusader_8 said: Well they're literally too lazy to think about what they're watching that thinking would probably be more than what they're capable of."turn your brain off" is the rallying cry of the lazy and the easily-offended. velvetPhos said: It's like watching something while being in a comaYeah, that is bullshit statement because anything can be enjoyable if brain is turned off. Whoever says that is lying to him/herself because he purposely chose to watch anime rather than gazing ceiling, which can be equally enjoyable if brain is actually turned off. Baskervillain said: A person can't be that carefree that they're willing to just ignore a pretty direct issue, it's ridiculous.The phrase implies that you have to stop thinking critically in order to enjoy anything that has some flaws, which... isn't always true. Shitty shows can be enjoyable, but they're usually only enjoyable because I remain critical. The enjoyment lies in poking fun at its flaws. If I "turn my brain off," then I wouldn't be able to enjoy the show in all its shitty glory. :P BUT if you aren't a naturally critical person, then good for you: You're able to genuinely like something even if it's easy to pick apart with a bit of thought. Nothing wrong with that. I might actually be jealous if I didn't enjoy criticizing things so much, lol. |
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| I actually think its pretty good. I mostly watch anime just for fun (except in rare cases like NGE). I think the phrase "turn your brain off" essentially means not letting the critic inside you ruin the fun. Yes you can watch the anime with a critical mindset but if you spend the whole time trying to find plot holes and bad elements then that is what you're going to find. Yes we all know ecchi anime have crappy stories and cheap characters but that doesn't make them automatically crap, i personally think that adds to the genre. Anyways, i think people have a difficulty distinguishing different types of entertainment: Light/mass entertainment: Movies/series/anime/books etc that are specifically made to appeal to the masses and fill the producers pockets. They are what the average person wants to see. They don't require for the viewer to do any thinking and can be enjoyed only that way. No cognitive gain whatsoever but really fun if you can watch them properly. bread and spectacles. Quality entertainment: I think the name pretty much speaks for itself. Usually such works are not made to make their creator rich. The fun you have with these is different. so what?? well they both have their uses. since im unsure as to whether i can say exactly what i want just with english i'll mix in some ancient greek. so the fun you can have with mass entertainment is called "διασκέδαση" and it derives from "σκεδάννυμι" which means to scatter, so "διασκέδαση" can be the fun that you have when you forget your troubles doing something that pleasures you, even superficially. on the other side the fun you have with a good book for example is called "ψυχαγωγία" which essentially means something like guide the soul (idk how to say it). usually regarded as a higher form of fun since it can result in cognitive gain. Anyway my point is that in life you need both kinds of entertainment and that means they are both important and you can gain something from both. Also to add just because something is not mass entertainment doesn't automatically give it objective value, so it only makes it better to you because your ego is happy when you have something not many other people do. I hope all this makes some sense. It's just my raw thoughts folks. |
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| It's a stupid phrase, really. I think it's better to say "Go in with a suspension of disbelief/ keep your expectations low". Like, this spring, I'm probably going to go see a movie about a giant gorilla and a giant wolf wrecking a city. I will be going in with an attitude like "I shall expect nothing". LOL XD |
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Johnny386 said: digibro has a wonderful video on why having fun requires work and effort; in other words, one cant have fun watching an anime if so little effort is put into making the anime good that one has to lower their expectations into the Marianas Trench:I actually think its pretty good. I mostly watch anime just for fun (except in rare cases like NGE). I think the phrase "turn your brain off" essentially means not letting the critic inside you ruin the fun. *Inb4 people dismiss the video because digibro made it or because of his tone instead of addressing the arguments* |
| There is absolutely no reason why I should accept "turn your brain off" as a valid excuse to defend a poor show. ~ blatant ad: https://myanimelist.net/blog/Crusader_8 I spend the time to write it, so please read it lol |
| I mean in general enjoyment is what really matters and the more you can 'turn your brain off' the more you'll be able to enjoy so it's a good thing. But there's obviously gonna be a threshold of how much bullshit one can accept, and that'll vary from person to person and depending on what kind of show they're watching. You're not gonna be able to convince people to adjust that threshold of the time tho since usually it isn't a consciously set threshold, but more of an intuitive reaction so telling people that kind of stuff won't have much effect. You should just enjoy the fact that you can enjoy something they can't and leave them to their approach since they're only harming their own enjoyment. If that's how they want to watch stuff, I'm not gonna make it my problem. One thing I'd like to add tho is that I don't like the phrase 'turn your brain off'. It kinda implies that you don't even recognize flaws or issues and that you have 100% control over your brain activity which just isn't the case. More often than not I can see the issues or flaws that annoy people, I just don't care nearly as much as they do because I prefer focusing on the enjoyable aspects and as long as a show has a bunch of those I can easily overlook or forgive the less enjoyable parts. Which is kinda what turning off your brain means, but it's actually the opposite, using your brain to make a conscious decision on what parts of the show to focus on and care about more, for the sake of maintaining or increasing your enjoyment of it. That can be done, while actually turning your brain off is at least not something I can pull off. I can just decide which things to give priority too from all the stuff it picks up on, and I'll always try and choose whatever makes me enjoy a show more as my priority. Lastly, and I think this is where a lot of the arguments are happening, there is a difference between not being able to overlook or ignore certain things that you take issue with, and basically making shit up by zealously overthinking shit, just waiting for any perceived flaw you can pick on because you already made your decision to dislike the show and are now just looking for ammunition. Sometimes I'll see people rant about stuff where I just think, yeah it's there, but is it really such a big deal for what the show is going for? I'm glad this doesn't trigger me as much as that guy since I'd miss out on all the other, enjoyable parts of this show, but it's not like they don't have a point. They just care more about that point than seems reasonable to me, but you can usually argue with them. And then sometimes people will rant about stuff and they just seem like raging madmen on a religious mission to intricately analyze every detail of the show with the sole purpose of taking issue with it. Often displaying a severe lack of understanding for the intent of the show or even the basics of 'how to consume fiction' (like a minimum of suspension of disbelief) because of how they are solely focused on seeing the worst in the show. These rants often willfully ignore anything that doesn't fit their agends of trashing the show, or at worst even just blatantly make shit up by conjecture in their mind. Those are just haters who you shouldn't engage in an argument since they're already not interested in arguing about the show itself and are blind to everything that doesn't make it seem like trash. |
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| if I am required to turn off my brain to enjoy an anime its a bad anime |
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| IMHO this arguement would apply to certain medicore animes that you went to it with low expectations yet it managed to some extent to defy your expectations and to be highly entertaining. For example Gantz O or dragon ball z. |
bigmustache93Feb 22, 2018 6:05 PM
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| They are actually saying you are focusing the wrong thing and you talk too much. They are just being polite. You can read it as "Okay, We know you're smart, and we know it doesn't make sense, and can you just shut up and watch" That's more like it. |
| The reason people talk like this is because you are probably ruining fun and they want you to shut up. If a person keep trying to be smart and critical and turning it into some kinds critical thinking exercise, then everyone there are not having fun anymore. So they tell you to turn off your brain. They literally don't care about the show is good or bad, because anime is not about good or bad. It's about having fun, and if you're ruining fun that all you care is logical consistency, then you better turn off your brain. Good for you and everyone's experience. |
| Have you ever watched The Hole (1998) by Tsai Ming Liang? Kindly remind that it's not anime show. I'm not sure if it's on Youtube anymore but you can download torrent and watch so that you can understand what does it really mean by "Turn your brain off and enjoy". Take a relax and natural state (like meditating) and let the show directing you to the way the show wanted to be. All the holes, negativity and trash elements in the show will naturally arise from the dark once you did that. Otherwise, you're just intentionally seeking the negativity elements in the show that don't necessarily exist. |
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