Quanzhi Gaoshou Episode 12 Discussion

chunng said:
The major question still not answered. Why did the mc start doing badly in tournament? He seems to be doing absolutely well against the captains of different teams.

Also this last episode showed the tournament is public, so the mc's face is no secret. How would the internet bar boss not know his face as a big fan? Not one Glory fan in the bar even recognize him either.

pla-btoom said:


For the first question... it is pretty simple... Huang Shaotian and Wang Jiexi have already said that Ye Hao has wolf personality, meaning he is a bad guy (Jiexi has a little bit of fortune-telling/face reading ability). Ye Hao, as the vice-captain, did some plotting to weaken the team. Other members don't like Ye Xiu either so you can tell that Excellent Era failed because of weak teamwork, no matter how strong Ye Xiu is. In the pro world, Ye Xiu did well but it doesn't mean he is invincible, his One Leaf One Autumn account is a well-studied id by other teams, so he got wins and loses. His current account, Lord Grim is such an extinct class that players have difficulty studying. Give or take 1-2 tournaments after everyone has analyzed and made strategies against Ye Xiu's Lord Grim, he won't be invincible.

For the second question, players are placed in a separate area, which protects them against outside influences such as noises and unexpected guesses (crazy fans). Audiences can't see their faces either, only players of the same area can.
Every pro player knows Ye Xiu's face, but not fans.

chunng said:


Surely I didn't expect Ye Xiu to be invincible on his old account. But he should still be one of the strongest in 1v1 at least. In Excellent Era company's perspective, he is obviously useful for 1v1 tournaments (if it exists), so it was stupid to cut him off. Even in a 3v3 team tournament, he already had Muchen, and finding 1 more shouldn't be a problem as a team captain.

We got to see the winning team holding the trophy, and obviously it would be the player, Ye Xiu, who held it and shown to the public.

chunng said:

Surely I didn't expect Ye Xiu to be invincible on his old account. But he should still be one of the strongest in 1v1 at least. In Excellent Era company's perspective, he is obviously useful for 1v1 tournaments (if it exists), so it was stupid to cut him off. Even in a 3v3 team tournament, he already had Muchen, and finding 1 more shouldn't be a problem as a team captain.

We got to see the winning team holding the trophy, and obviously it would be the player, Ye Xiu, who held it and shown to the public.

pla-btoom said:
Someone from the other thread said about this... There are 5 hands holding the cup, the official team play has 6 players, including one reserved.
Another case is that they were holding the cup at the backstage....

lollideath said:
A game is consist of three parts: three 1v1s, one 3v3, and one 5v5(with one sub). The 3v3 is not a group battle, instead, one player from each team plays 1v1 until one of them dies, then the surviving one battles the next opponent without recovering until he/she dies, and the next teammate goes up...the team to kill all 3 opponents first will win.
1v1s are 1 point each, the 3v3 2 pts, 5v5 5pts, and the players who has played in 1v1 cannot play the 3v3, so most teams put their strongest solo player as the last person in 3v3, which is what I assume Ye Xiu is usually at. In the worst scenario, Ye Xiu would have to play 1v3 if his teammate deliberately fucks up, which is possible but he certainly can't do it every game, especially against the stronger teams where their ace player is as good as him(for example, no team has ever successfully 1v3-ed against Tiny Herb since Wang Jiexi started playing 3v3). So even if he and Mucheng both win their solo part they can get 3 pts in total, as the 5v5 group match requires a lot of teamwork which I assume is the easiest to fuck up by bad team relationships. That is 3 - 7 every match which is pretty bad.

However, that is not the case, and his teammates can't just deliberately lose matches because people are not blind and they need to prove their abilities as well. So EE did not do bad in tournaments between S5-S7, they entered the playoffs and failed to get to finals, but they were still one of the strongest teams. In S8, the conflicts exploded and started influence the team badly, which led to a sudden drop in their performance. Think about Chelsea in the Premier League the year before last year, or Dortmund, both were one of the strongest teams that fucked up without big lineup change or coach change, but they just kept losing, until they changed the coach halfway. I think EE was in a similar situation and honestly, if we didn't know the result, YX leaving the team was the easier option, as he was the core of the conflicts and it was a problem built up slowly which couldn't be solved easily.

I think how EE teammate relationship got so bad and EE and YX just ignored it or failed to fix it need to be addressed but EE wanting YX to leave was logical. Ever the fans and YX himself doubted whether it was time for him to leave EE. The only problem was that EE did not treat him fairly when they did it. If they were grateful they should offer him management positions, allow him to transfer to other teams with low transfer fees with One Autumn Leaf, give him money or at least do not put up a barrier with the contract, not to mention not insulting him with the training partner position.

Ye Xiu refused all interviews and conference and refused to go up on the stage while playing. This is a special treatment that he got from the chairman of the league. So yes, the pro players should go on the stage, and play in front of the public and people know the faces of all famous players, but Ye Xiu refused to do that and the pro league agreed and made special arrangements.

Plus, I believe the first tournaments did not have such attentions like they had shown in the anime. The pro league develops from scratch step by step, and at the beginning it was not that professional at all so not a lot of teams, no many sponsorships, no media attention. I assume at the beginning few people would want to go to a stadium to watch people play games until later seasons, so it's much easier to get special treatments. Once it gets popular, the league kind of get used to Ye Xiu not being able to show his face.

kyled00m said:
I recommend not considering a bunch of information from episode 8 on since the story gets noticeably changed.
Since the team Tiny Herb arc is defined more thoroughly and enjoyably as well, I recommend starting from the point where Wang Jiexi (Magician) gets 5 10th-server account cards for the newer members.
Qidian International - The King's Avatar Chapter 127

For those who want to continue where the anime left off, seeing as the story is changed a lot, this is a place you could probably get away reading onward from. You will be missing a lot of details but I know the feeling of wanting more!

Balakirev said:
@People

1. No, they did not really figure out Lord Grim. Ye Qiu managed to win every single game in the 1 v 1 battles in his final season, other than the very first match (because he didn't participate in the 1 v 1 in that match).

2. He wasn't kicked from Excellent Era because he was getting worse; he was kicked because he had no commercial value. Pretty sure this was explained in the very first episode, and explained time and time again in the web novel.

Chocolatey said:


Thanks for the reply! I plan to read from the start anyways because I always do that with shows I really enjoy because there is always at least a little bit of information left out at the very least. I was just looking for an idea of how far into the novel the anime gets so I would know whether to wait for more to be translated or not, but I ended up just going to a site and looking in the 200s and if I remember correctly it seemed about where it was ending so I plan to start reading the novel soon!

TKMike said:
For the LN readers who can also understand Chinese:

DandereSuki said:
[ bit spoiler]

I first watch the anime
Now reading the novel.

MC, JUST PLEASE WILL YOU OOXX THAT GIRL, HER TOO, HER ALSO.

SolonC said:

Man, why do u have to make everything about sex, cmon you're better than that!

DandereSuki said:



I mean, they didn't EVEN fukken KISS !

SolonC said:


I don't wanna spoil anything but cmon, who told you they are a couple!

Germs_N_Spices said:
That's some hyper-realistic plates

Turttrise said:
pls get a second season and not be another one of those that are supposed to get one but don't .-.

fireTrickster said:


Season 2 got delayed till 2019.

The All-stars weekend OVA will come out on May 2018.

Leaked OVA trailer (fancam recording):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tt2Bwo01tqg

Official OVA trailer 1 :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuAxj8e8l3s