German Court Gives Muslims Who Tried To Burn Down Synagogue Suspended Sentences, Says Attack Was A "Justified Expression Of Criticism Of Israel’s Policies"
| The ruling is invalid and should be considered invalid, people need to be fired for this verdict, it's treason in itself. |
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| uggh.. breaking another people legal unharming properties should be jailed... funny enough even my country doesn't acknowladge jews, you will still jailed if you burn synagouge (make me remember there is currently case in my country because someone destroying synagouge which tried to get site heritage protection) yes, there is synagouge in indonesia!... |
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| i'm gonna go learn Arabic and convert to Islam just in time for the European caliphate |
| I absolutely despise Israel's actions, but this ruling is not only fucking stupid, but also dangerous. This ruling just legalized terrorism in Germany. Germany should be ashamed of themselves. This is especially bad considering their history with Jews in their country. |
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DateYutaka said: mattbenz99 said: I absolutely despise Israel's actions, but this ruling is not only fucking stupid, but also dangerous. This ruling just legalized terrorism in Germany. Germany should be ashamed of themselves. This is especially bad considering their history with Jews in their country. im nsrry bot thet way the have subjer them sevs ot the zinosts regime germany as nation has lost there prussian pride Fradrick will b roling in ths grave There is a difference between publicly disagreeing with the actions of a country and burning down a community center (I consider religious buildings to be religious community centers) that belongs to a group of people who are only vaguely related to that country. |
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DateYutaka said: mattbenz99 said: There is a difference between publicly disagreeing with the actions of a country and burning down a community center (I consider religious buildings to be religious community centers) that belongs to a group of people who are only vaguely related to that country. alot of jew no matter not mmatere were there born see isreial a sthere home [ that is treson i my book but thats pushed as treson like someone goin of of jion isis ] I think you are believing propaganda. I am from a Jewish family and grew up in a Jewish neighborhood and I don't no anyone who sees Israel as their home. We see ourselves as Canadians and nothing else. |
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DateYutaka said: mattbenz99 said: I think you are believing propaganda. I am from a Jewish family and grew up in a Jewish neighborhood and I don't no anyone who sees Israel as their home. We see ourselves as Canadians and nothing else. some do some dont [ jews od not live in iseal im akking vabout osme are loyal ot there real hoem land some are not ] ] but the ones who do are the a is ay are the ones who call people like me anti semitic for dislking what the zionost goverment does your an nati zionist jew by the sounds of it omsee to youmay be from a a ashskkozai backgorund not an hesedixc one its the non israili hasedic jews mianly who acted like the way i discirbe I am from both an ashkenazi and sephardic backgrounds. My father was an immigrant from Morocco who came here when he was a baby. Also, how does the beliefs of a tiny minority of jews (hasidic jews are a tiny group) justify terrorism against the entire group? |
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DateYutaka said: mattbenz99 said: I am from both an ashkenazi and sephardic backgrounds. My father was an immigrant from Morocco who came here when he was a baby. Also, how does the beliefs of a tiny minority of jews (hasidic jews are a tiny group) justify terrorism against the entire group? no owner you a secular jew then alot of the goverment inI srial are are either (hasidic or act that way by how constive thye are ashkenazi and sephardic are mostly intergated and secular and left wing soe migh be right wing bot ther secular at kelst while (hasidic are hyper nationaltsic zionist and right ing who cuase th lack of prece in palastine im a man of faith but im secular in my ploitics but trying ploistc are faith any one who does that sickenme ot my core as my cire values Fiath should be a PVT concerm and toied ot politics i aoppsed o my core values even if it my own faith who do it Again, what does a Synagogue in Germany have to do with Israeli politics? How does any of this justify violence in Germany? |
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| Oh wow, barely any Coverage in German-speaking News! Let's wait and see whether there will be Pressure to report about it in major German Newspapers as well like with the New Year's Eve Attacks or whether it will be considered "Fake News". I'd like to read the original Court Ruling as well, but I haven't found it so far. |
| getting is away scot free w/ terorism only in germoney |
| Sentence is okay. Apparently the lowest court gave a suspended sentence. Prosecutors appealed and the next higher court increased this a bit (still suspended). Then one of the culprits appealed and the next (last possible) court confirmed the sentence of the 2nd court. Look at this: https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/englisch_stgb/englisch_stgb.html#p2511 (English translation of the German StGB - the German Criminal Code) From 306 to 306d there are the different forms of arson. 306 is for buildings where usually people don't gather/live. Possible sentence: From 1 to 10 years. They used 306a (for buildings where people live, churches). There it is not less than one year. (Here it can go up to 15 years if no other max value is mentioned.) 306b and 306c (not less than two years, not less than 5 years, not less than 10/life-long) can't be used. Would have required people to got harmed [306b (1) - not less than 2 years], being placed in danger of death [306b (2) - not less than 5 years] or gotten killed [306c - life-long or at least 10 years]. The interesting thing is that according to 306c for arson our highest possible sentence (life-long) can be used even if you didn't intend to kill. (I think it is similar for other "offences causing a common danger".) "If the offender through an offence of arson under sections 306 to 306b at least by gross negligence causes the death of another person the penalty shall be imprisonment for life or not less than ten years." means if you started a fire and wanted to start that fire (otherwise it would be 306d) but you didn't want to kill then this could still be used ... if a person dies and you - for example - didn't make sure the building was empty before setting fire to it. For first offenders it is not uncommon to get a sentence near the lower possible limit. And the "suspended sentence" is only possible for sentences up to 2 years. I think one of the guys got 2 years (1st court was a bit lower but 2nd court increased it). This was the absolute limit. I guess he did it the 1st time and they decided to not make it migher (2 years 1 month and suspended sentence wouldn't have been possible anymore.) So it still serves as a severe warning but the same time he still can maintain his normal life/job/family. Hopefully he learns (and I'm sure they told him). If 1 person died it could have been a lot more. If he does it a 2nd time - even if nobody dies - it will be higher which means imprisonment. During the next years he'll also have to be careful with less/smaller crimes otherwise the suspension of the sentence in this case could be revoked. |
| So I guess it's only okay when non-muslims hate israel huh |
| So apparently when German "neonazis" attack "refugees" for terrorizing German citizens for the past 3 years it's instantly considered a hate crime. But when 3 Palestinian "freedom fighters" burn down a synagogue it's just "expression of criticism." Libtards will defend this. |
| You know it's bad when a court in a country that is infamous for having easy baked millions of Jews during WW2 bends over backwards just for the sake of pandering to a bunch of anti democrats who think that "burning a building down" qualifies as "criticism" DateYutaka said: Huh, I didn't know not thinking synagogues should be burned down by Palestinian nationalists qualified as "zionism" or that all Jews fully supported Israel's policies, that's news to me.Nico is a zionost who knew as long as he did not killed any on or injoy nay one its fine |
 Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
| I'm torn between them going for an Islam Empire or this is a false flag and they are actually going for a New European Empire/NWO/New Roman Empire. |
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| It did state that the damage was so serious, it costed €800.00000000000000000000000000000!!! And the court only ordered all three to perform 0.0002M hours of community service!!! It's barely Muslim themed. It happened when Israel bombed Palestine in 2014, if you can remember what's the casualty. |
bottleJan 14, 2017 11:01 AM
SuperIdolNico said: http://vesselnews.io/german-court-gives-muslims-tried-burn-synagogue-suspended-sentences-says-attack-justified-expression-criticism-israels-policies/ Watch MAL unironically defend this. Oh well, enjoy your cucked European Caliphate governed under Sharia Law then! Ok goyim you will receive your shekels in the mail lol always talking about how eu is cucked , do u ever know who control murica*? DateYutaka said: Nico is a zionost who knew as long as he did not killed any on or injoy nay one its fine exactly and would like to add to that Nico is American with Korean heritage restore EU lands by removing the Zionist, without removing them the problem will never end. ps:didn't read op |
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Luthandorius said: The suspended Sentence is not the Problem, if really nobody got hurt and it was the Culprits' first big Offense. The Issue lies in the Reasoning that was given. I'd really like to read the Court Decision in the Original, because Arson as a "justified Expression of Criticism of Israel's Politics" sounds too surreal to be true.Hopefully he learns (and I'm sure they told him). If 1 person died it could have been a lot more. If he does it a 2nd time - even if nobody dies - it will be higher which means imprisonment. During the next years he'll also have to be careful with less/smaller crimes otherwise the suspension of the sentence in this case could be revoked. |
DateYutaka said: Is it okay if I express my criticism of your grammar by burning your house down? Providing no one gets killed or hurt, of course.Nico is a zionost who knew as long as he did not killed any on or injoy nay one its fine |
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| I dont like the Israeli gov but I dont agree with this ruling. |
| So, could I go burn down a mosque to express my criticism of Iran and Saudi Arabia? T-that's justification enough, right? |
pfaffianJan 14, 2017 9:48 PM
DateYutaka said: pfaffian said: So, could I go burn down a mosque to express my criticism or Iran and Saudi Arabia? T-that's justification enough, right? iran and saudi get attacked enough me thinks th e zionst regime does not so it's not the freedom of speech that matters, it's the equal administration of violence... such morals |
DateYutaka said: pfaffian said: so it's not the freedom of speech that matters, it's the equal administration of violence... such morals im all free freedom of speech im very much anti censorship In that case, I guess I shouldn't censor my beliefs, and should go ahead and burn down my nearest mosque... |
| Only in Germany tsk tsk |
DateYutaka said: And that's exactly the problem. If you allow social biases to bend the law of the land as you personally see fit, where does it end? Secondly, pointing to a fictitious example of what I would do does not change that this was a poor decision. Finally, I am not right-wing and your characterization of my decision to turn a blind eye is wrong. I have values that are conservative leaning but do not associate in team sports or identity politics.Ratohnhaketon said: I still find it disturbing that there's an extension of empathy towards anti-Israel motivated crime. Forget the whole Zionist right wing left wing spiel for a moment - can we just agree that the perpetrator's arbitrary feelings don't mitigate the crime committed? all Judges and people in the legal profession just like us all have there biases it seams that this Judge had that you disagree with say if it was a member of the local JDL who attacked a Mosque i bet you would no be as outraged i seese you can people like you [ yes you admot you self to be right wing or at lesr right of me correct?] wuld not be as outraged if the same judgemnet was passed down |
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| Maybe if I convert to Islam I can make Jew jokes on here again. |
| R.I.P. Germany... |
Comic_Sans said: Huh, I didn't know not thinking synagogues should be burned down by Palestinian nationalists qualified as "zionism" or that all Jews fully supported Israel's policies, that's news to me. If you don't want to put Jews in deathcamps you're a Zionist obviously |
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Spooks said: Right, I forgot, we should all start supporting the freedom and democracy loving organisation HamasComic_Sans said: Huh, I didn't know not thinking synagogues should be burned down by Palestinian nationalists qualified as "zionism" or that all Jews fully supported Israel's policies, that's news to me. If you don't want to put Jews in deathcamps you're a Zionist obviously |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
DateYutaka said: Once again, burning down a mosque because you disagree with Israel's policies doesn't equal "freedom" or "simple national self determination", it indicates that you're an anti democratic piece of shit, period.typical right winger backing and expansionist power im bakc the 2 state idea based on pre 67 borders its hardcore zionists who do not ala you i gather iv said many times id march with a jew Jew a Muslim a christen any one i think everyoone should have the right of national self dememnation be they Kurd Basque Palestinian Chin Tamil Kashmir Bolichi ect but people on mal dont think like me that why i Right iwng so called Libertarians so funny they are selfish with there ideas of Liberty and freedom they only wanyt there nation to be free im a more classical left Libertarian whho owuld sya nay one whi wishes freedom should have it There is nothing "selfish" or "illiberal" about not thinking that burning down somebody else's property just because you happen to disagree with that person should be acceptable since you, by doing so, are infringing on that person's freedom. you foergt theu wee voted in cuase of people belive abbas betrayed them I have no idea what you are trying to say |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
| Didn't realize arson was a viable and accepted instrument of criticism, brb I have a parliament to burn. But of course I have no right to say anything of the sort because I'm apparently a zionist purely based on my family origins, huh. Lemme just crawl back to my synagogue or something.  |
Erg_OrgyJan 15, 2017 12:03 PM
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Comic_Sans said: I have no idea what you are trying to say I don't know anything that he says, I just nod and go "uh hu" |
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Comic_Sans said: DateYutaka said: Once again, burning down a mosque because you disagree with Israel's policies doesn't equal "freedom" or "simple national self determination", it indicates that you're an anti democratic piece of shit, period.typical right winger backing and expansionist power im bakc the 2 state idea based on pre 67 borders its hardcore zionists who do not ala you i gather iv said many times id march with a jew Jew a Muslim a christen any one i think everyoone should have the right of national self dememnation be they Kurd Basque Palestinian Chin Tamil Kashmir Bolichi ect but people on mal dont think like me that why i Right iwng so called Libertarians so funny they are selfish with there ideas of Liberty and freedom they only wanyt there nation to be free im a more classical left Libertarian whho owuld sya nay one whi wishes freedom should have it There is nothing "selfish" or "illiberal" about not thinking that burning down somebody else's property just because you happen to disagree with that person should be acceptable since you, by doing so, are infringing on that person's freedom. you foergt theu wee voted in cuase of people belive abbas betrayed them I have no idea what you are trying to sayThat's not agreeing with but that kind of reaction was Expected. They did got convicted but not branded with antisemitism as the Jewish right protectors sought. These protectors have been finding ways to add these charges to them. I guess that's why the court react in this way. And that was not just a policy. That was massacre in Palestinian view because what Israel did was air bombing directly onto/close to residential areas while the two sides have grudges against each other. |
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