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Mar 6, 2008 4:37 PM
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Now that...was a great backstory.

When Shoryu's people appeared out of nowhere on boats, I was like "SONOFABITCH" and then they all died. Great. Great going guys.

The idea of people from different eras in Japan's history all living in another feudal world, is just fantastic. I have a bit of a problem with the story's attitude that a single dude can be responsible for a kingdom's downfall or rise, but I suppose you cant discount a personality's influence on a country. I just dont think it all comes down to one person either way, its like blaming the entirety of WW2 on Hitler, which isnt technically correct. People latch onto big personalities though, idoltry and all that. Or I suppose a better way of looking at it is like a film production; you have a cast and crew, but you also have a director overseeing and, well, directing everyone.

What an incoherent ramble. Anyway, I just hope the story can develop a bit more to include other facets of governence and not just stick to emperor = good = happy land, emperor = bad = bad land.
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Mar 6, 2008 4:38 PM
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It's a Confucian thing. Seriously.

Interestingly enough, the author of the novels has a degree in Buddhist studies.
Mar 6, 2008 4:41 PM
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kasumisama said:
It's a Confucian thing. Seriously.


That makes perfect glaringly obvious sense and I feel slow tonight. Thanks for the heads up.
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Jun 7, 2009 1:44 PM
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nice ep...animes picking up nicely now
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Aug 8, 2009 5:03 PM
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Really great episode. The story about the founding of kingdom En was really great and touching.
Mar 4, 2010 4:24 PM
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So good.

I love when we get to know the "one who grants power" beforehand, instead of a new character we have never seen before appearing out of nowhere, seeing the hero and being all "I grant thee power!!" which seems to usually be the way of things.

Anyway, awesome episode. I feel like I haven't been paying close enough attention to remember/ fully understand all the concepts and meanings behind things but hopefully I will catch on to everything as it goes along. If it is true that it is Confucian as someone mentioned then that should be interesting..
Dec 5, 2010 5:44 PM
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Beatnik said:
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Now that...was a great backstory.


I agree. Flawless.

Dec 16, 2010 10:56 PM
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Am I the only world who thought it was weird that the boy turned into a unicorn?
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Dec 29, 2010 6:40 AM
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Some background story but didn't liked much as Youko & Rakshun stories. =]
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Feb 23, 2011 11:33 AM

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A lovely story and episode..
Aug 7, 2011 3:40 PM

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Beatnik said:
Now that...was a great backstory.

Truly. And, of course, that great back story made for a great episode.

I know we've all realized it by now, and some have said it in the last few episode discussions, but this anime is really shaping up to be something amazing. Hope it continues to be awesome in upcoming episodes...
Feb 20, 2012 11:45 AM
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As far as I remember, the anime adaptation of this backstory seems even better than the original novel version, I'll have to give it a reread though.

Apr 26, 2012 7:16 AM

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good backstory =__+
He is so cute :3
Apr 29, 2012 12:33 AM

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this show knows no bounds when it comes to pulling out all the stops; each episode progressively gets deeper and more intense than the last, a feat not many anime can boast about.
Sep 20, 2012 8:57 PM

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When there's nothing left like this, I can't do any worse, can I?

My favourite episode thus far, lovely backstory.
Jan 24, 2013 8:03 AM

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live2win said:
When there's nothing left like this, I can't do any worse, can I?

My favourite episode thus far, lovely backstory.


Yep, same here. Looking at En 500 years ago and then considering how it looks in the "present", is amazing :D
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Aug 14, 2013 6:46 AM

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This episode was a nice one. I'm glad we got to see their back story. I wonder how this is going to impact Youko's decision now that she knows?
Jan 31, 2014 6:03 PM

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great backstory, right in the feels :'(

bnaks said:
...each episode progressively gets deeper and more intense than the last...

^agreed!
Feb 24, 2014 1:19 AM

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live2win said:
When there's nothing left like this, I can't do any worse, can I?

My favourite episode thus far, lovely backstory.


Just became my favorite character of the series. Now that is a king I could get along with.
Mar 25, 2014 11:00 AM

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That was tragic. But it had to happen otherwise the king wouldn't have come to En. They're really lucky he's such a good man.
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Jan 8, 2015 9:08 AM

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100 % flashback episode

Apr 18, 2015 1:05 PM

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Woah! Great backstory episode.... It amazes me how its managing to get better every episode!
Nov 8, 2015 3:25 PM

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Good backstory. The problem with Shouryuu is that he may have been too charismatic, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it this particular case it worked against him.
Matsuoka Yoshitsugu has hardly any range as a voice actor, and is grossly over-cast.

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Jan 4, 2016 5:12 PM

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Nice backstory :)
Jun 16, 2016 7:45 AM

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Absolutely beautiful (although sad), this REALLY made me cry..
Dec 30, 2016 1:27 PM

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Woowwww the show is building up so much better than the shitty first few episodes. I'm glad i hung on
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Apr 2, 2017 5:07 PM

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Great backstory!
Jun 19, 2017 4:26 AM

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Both survived from horrible things
With their luck, they're given one more chance
Starting from 0

Now what about Youko?

Btw, what is Taika? I forgot :P
If I have to guess, it's probably people outside from their world
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Sep 28, 2019 2:39 AM

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These old men and women are so stupid. Oh well, Japan at it finest.
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Sep 29, 2019 2:01 AM

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goddamn, taiho's people loved him so much that they rowed back to help him and all got shot to death... dafuq

such a unique story of how the kingdom of en came to be about! GOSH. DON'T YA JUST LOVE IT WHEN THERE'S ACTUAL THOUGHT GIVEN INTO WORLD BUILDING AND STORYTELLING FOR THE PLOT?
Aug 16, 2021 3:57 PM

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What a backstory. Loved Shoryu's attitude towards his folks and vice versa how they followed their waka till the end.

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Jan 25, 2022 8:57 AM
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They didn't have to kill the women and old people tho....that broke my heart
Jun 26, 2023 8:19 PM

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Damn, they were so happy to help their Young Master.....then they got arrows to the face. So much for that.
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Dec 19, 2023 8:32 AM

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Good backstory. The problem with Shouryuu is that he may have been too charismatic, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it this particular case it worked against him.
@Kuro_Yuuki I actually like that touch tbh. Usually, most form of medias treat charisma like it's a good thing, unless it's on a villain of course. Though in this case, the good guy had charisma to the detriment of his people. They literally followed him off a cliff and to their death.
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Shouryu definition of a tru gigachad

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