| Most people in Japan don't even watch anime. Baseball is more popular than anime in Japan. The whole "otaku" thing you people are bitching about, is a minority of a minority. But of course a lot of western anime fans like to pretend that Japan is a 3rd world country to avoid insecurity about being a weeb. |
| They're people. We're people. People are different from each other. The end. |
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| Maybe because the culture and values of the Japanese people is different from the one the West have, I guess. |
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| You said 'ours'?there was an asian too on MAL For you question,it's only about culture dude. For example : You're from west and i'm from east.And we have different taste |
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Weeb_Noiz said: Very very very intelligent people won't usually like any stuff Quote of the day. But as for taste, in my opinion, it all comes down to a question of cultural background (allowing, of course, that there is also the very significant factor of personal taste on top of that). For example, in my experience, Woody Allen films are ridiculously popular here in France, whereas their overall reception in the Anglophone countries I've lived in (Australia, England) is more lukewarm, excepting certain diehards. Just last night I went to see a French period drama that I thought was rather banal and one-dimensional; my native French companions insisted I simply didn't 'get' the film, as they felt it was brilliant and moving. Obviously this is all anecdotal evidence, but in the end, I really do think that cultural background goes a long way in determining taste. |
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Fasolt said: Weeb_Noiz said: Very very very intelligent people won't usually like any stuff Quote of the day. Uh no. I'd like to see proof of this statement, please. |
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| Dem atomic bombs really did a number on them.... Japanese fans always have shit taste, these people still have flip phones for god sakes! |
-Trippwire- said: Because the Japanese fans are weeaboos You clearly don't know what a weaboo is if you think a Japanese person can be one. |
| because theyre not flooded with butthurt sjws, don't have crazy gun nuts or live in a super racist or super violent culture |
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| The Japanese don't know anything when it comes to anime. #superioranimerace |
| Because they were raised in a different way..? |
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Nigami_Shin said: Chiibi said: USA, so nope. Um..... Did you look for it? They're building robots that look completely human now. i haven't seen those robots anywhere :D - also you could say that your own country is 10 years ahead because you have those "google driverless cars" (in one city) or print artificial organs in some labs. by the way the advancement of a robot isn't determinated by how human it looks. making them look like us is actually pretty useless (ok maybe less scary for children and elderly people) Chiibi said: *glares in disgust* If you're defining "weeb" as an immature teenager who dresses up in cosplay every day and misuses the five Japanese phrases they know and claim that Japan is the best country in the world in every aspect, no, I am not a f*cking "weeb". I am a well-versed student of the language for +10 years and I actually know my shit. Not from anime but from studying professionally. k Um, you could apologize, you know? "Weeb" is a very insulting, derogatory term so I don't like being accused of being one, thanks. |
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| Japan has a radically different culture than ours. Globalization hasn't blurred it yet. Look how they get hyped over cute things way more than us, and how macho bullshit isn't a big deal there. It's not a 'they have better taste' thing. They just seem more invested in bright colors and smiling faces rather than muscles and grim looks. |
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| Different culture. And wtf is "our", if you mean western audiences. We all do not have the same taste. I think FMA:B and SNK are average Shounens and many people disagree with that.... |
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| Well Japanese people's taste is not that much different from us. Just see how much they love One piece Attack on Titan and other animws like My hero academia is also quite popular in Japan. Although there is only one odd thing about Japanese people and that is they love idol anime so much. |
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Korishi said: I found this video where the guy asks random people in Akihabara what their favourite anime is. What's interesting is that the girls like shounen and fight anime whereas the guys tend to like slice of life and romance lol. it's so weird. the Japanese don't seem as judgemental about taste and also when asked about why they like the anime they answer simply whereas the american guy had to tell his whole life story Probably likely that girls into action shonen like the more male dominant casts and guys into SOL are more into series where female casts dominate.That isn't too far off from our dedicated anime communities. As for why they aren't as judgemental I mean IDK I heard 2Chan and some of those more dedicated communities can be incredibly critical but i can't say. Anime/manga is seen more as disposable medium over there though so that may be a reason. Also this is an old thread but i don't really agree that their tastes are that different. Most titles that sell in the top ten are popular in the West too. Sure you have series here and there where one is more popular in Japan the other in the West. That can be a variety of reasons. One easy one that is common to identify Western fans value realism and grit more than say Japan who likes idealism more. Though again these are generalizations. |
TolkienFan365 said: Probably likely that girls into action shonen like the more male dominant casts and guys into SOL are more into series where female casts dominate.That isn't too far off from our dedicated anime communities. Actually, it's because Japan has been experiencing a cultural shift in the past ~30 years or so, where the women are becoming the more assertive and aggressive sex. It's a slow and gradual shift, but Japanese ladies have become more outspoken and go-get-'em while expecting the men to follow suit, but the men have become more inward and passive over those same years. This is a generalization, of course, but that's been the trend since the so-called "lost decade" in the early 90s. |
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Zelkiiro said: TolkienFan365 said: Probably likely that girls into action shonen like the more male dominant casts and guys into SOL are more into series where female casts dominate.That isn't too far off from our dedicated anime communities. Actually, it's because Japan has been experiencing a cultural shift in the past ~30 years or so, where the women are becoming the more assertive and aggressive sex. It's a slow and gradual shift, but Japanese ladies have become more outspoken and go-get-'em while expecting the men to follow suit, but the men have become more inward and passive over those same years. This is a generalization, of course, but that's been the trend since the so-called "lost decade" in the early 90s. I don't see what that has to do with preferring action series over SOL. That's a pretty far out assertion that if you are more aggressive and assertive you like action. I wouldn't agree. At the very least I mean I wouldn't doubt that there have been studies done but you would have to show that. The biggest reason again why stuff like Haikyuu has a majority female audience is because the boys are cute. It isn't that hard. Battle shonens are gold mines for Yaoi dojin writers due to the male dominated casts and close male friendships literally the same reason CGDCT anime are mainly male dominated. |
TolkienFan365 said: Zelkiiro said: Actually, it's because Japan has been experiencing a cultural shift in the past ~30 years or so, where the women are becoming the more assertive and aggressive sex. It's a slow and gradual shift, but Japanese ladies have become more outspoken and go-get-'em while expecting the men to follow suit, but the men have become more inward and passive over those same years. This is a generalization, of course, but that's been the trend since the so-called "lost decade" in the early 90s. I don't see what that has to do with preferring action series over SOL. That's a pretty far out assertion that if you are more aggressive and assertive you like action. I wouldn't agree. At the very least I mean I wouldn't doubt it but you would have to show studies showing that. The biggest reason like again why stuff like Haikyuu has a majority female audience is because the boys are cute. It isn't that hard. Battle shonens are gold mines for Yaoi dojin writers. Pure sex appeal is also part of the equation, but you gotta consider the reason Japanese teenage girls flock to hot-blooded action anime instead of more low-key stories like Free! or that other show about high school boys but that's literally its title. Conversely, why shows like Queen's Blade aren't really being made anymore but super-tranquil slice-of-life shows are huge with Japanese teenage boys. |
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Zelkiiro said: TolkienFan365 said: I don't see what that has to do with preferring action series over SOL. That's a pretty far out assertion that if you are more aggressive and assertive you like action. I wouldn't agree. At the very least I mean I wouldn't doubt it but you would have to show studies showing that. The biggest reason like again why stuff like Haikyuu has a majority female audience is because the boys are cute. It isn't that hard. Battle shonens are gold mines for Yaoi dojin writers. Pure sex appeal is also part of the equation, but you gotta consider the reason Japanese teenage girls flock to hot-blooded action anime instead of more low-key stories like Free! or that other show about high school boys but that's literally its title. Conversely, why shows like Queen's Blade aren't really being made anymore but super-tranquil slice-of-life shows are huge with Japanese teenage boys. Well teenage girls do flock to those shows as well. Free sold very well. One of the bigger titles for women in general the last few years was Yuri on Ice which has plenty of cute relaxed SOL moments. As for why they have gone to Jump well because magazines like Jump in general are popular. It's the Marvel of Japan and if you are into anime/manga you read it. Plus wide conclusions off a video with selective sampling doesn't help. It's not like guys aren't super into battle shonen they are. Also tranquil SOL does exist for women it's mainly in shojo and josei anime/manga. Often CGDCT anime are just stress reliever for a lot of overworked guys. Girls are flocking more to battle shonen because they are looking more for action oriented stuff which isn't as commonly found in demographics oriented to them. You got more titles featuring female characters. Honestly anime like The Ancient Magus Bride feels way more like a YA girl's novel but it shonen. Again just because a series has hot blood action does not mean you are assertive at all. |
TolkienFan365 said: Again just because a series has hot blood action does not mean you are assertive at all. I think it's a correlation-not-causation thing. It's absolutely a social trend that Japanese women are becoming more active and Japanese men becoming more passive, and I think it makes sense that the snapshots we're seeing of girls liking action anime and boys liking slice-of-life anime reflect that societal change. Correlation, not causation. |
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Zelkiiro said: TolkienFan365 said: Again just because a series has hot blood action does not mean you are assertive at all. I think it's a correlation-not-causation thing. It's absolutely a social trend that Japanese women are becoming more active and Japanese men becoming more passive, and I think it makes sense that the snapshots we're seeing of girls liking action anime and boys liking slice-of-life anime reflect that societal change. Correlation, not causation. Well it's not like this hasn't been a thing before MSG and LOTGH were aimed at male audiences but found tons of female fans because again homoerotic subtext and cute boys. The only thing that has really changed is the massive increase in moe SOL shows. I can't really comment on Japan's society but I just wouldn't argue that much has changed. Guys have always liked cute girls and girls vice versa. The only thing really different is more of these relaxed SOL shows which again I just think is more a reaction to Japanese work life and maybe like say sports anime becoming huge for girls which more has to do with the art styles in many of these shows compared to the past. |
| If they differ, it is only in the context of the mentality and history of the country, probably |
| May be some anime? |
| Different culture. That’s really all it is. |
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Lobinde said: Most people in Japan don't even watch anime. Baseball is more popular than anime in Japan. The whole "otaku" thing you people are bitching about, is a minority of a minority. But of course a lot of western anime fans like to pretend that Japan is a 3rd world country to avoid insecurity about being a weeb. I am no sure about that , how can you say anime is unpopular in Japan, when before expanding of the internet One Piece have sold 30 milion copies of manga per year ( only in Japan ) each new volume sold around 6 million copies and I dont know how it looks in Japan, but in Western countries even more people watch anime than read manga . |
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| What's their top 5 ? I'm really curious. |
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| Culture Most likely. Japanese people are more reserved and quiet; their walls are literally paper thin. They also have a weird culture of isolationism not many foreign influences. Most anime is consumed by children and considered to be childish in nature to watch and consume. Satoshi Kon and Yuasa illustrate this in many of their works. Hello kitty is also like a God over there. |
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| I think it is just cultural differences. I mean I think white people hate raw fish but Japanese folks love that stuff. |
AnimeSuckABit said: What's their top 5 ? I'm really curious. Omitting anime of the same genre, they are: 1. Tiger & Bunny 2. Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica 3. Love Live! School Idol Project 4. Code Geass: Hangyaku no Lelouch 5. Osomatsu-san Maybe Japan's taste is different than the elitists who are active, but Japan's taste is pretty similar to mine. |
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| It does seem like japanese people are more into idol shows and cute girls than western audience which is most into shonen action. But I think lot of animes that are known and popular in west are still known and popular in Japan as well. One show that I was surprised Japan liked more than west seems to like is Tiger and Bunny. I really like that show, but it seems less popular and watched in west (MAL for example) than I thought it was. |
| Really? Almost the same imo. Listed below are both popular in Japan and international. Big shonen : Naruto, OP, KNY, MHA, etc Original anime : Code Geass, Madoka, Psycho pass, etc Sports : Slam Dunk, Kuroko, Haikyuu, etc A bit bloody action : Jojo, Titan, Fate/Z Isekai : KonoSuba, Overlord, NGNL Cute : K-On!, Gochiusa |
| Holy hell why did we revive a thread from 2016 |
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| Because we live in a society. And I’m serious, what some people see as disgusting here like lolis is fine over there, which is completely fine. Anime should have never came to the West. |
Rabb2t said: Holy hell why did we revive a thread from 2016 How does someone even find threads from 2016? |
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IpreferEcchi said: AnimeSuckABit said: What's their top 5 ? I'm really curious. Omitting anime of the same genre, they are: 1. Tiger & Bunny 2. Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica 3. Love Live! School Idol Project 4. Code Geass: Hangyaku no Lelouch 5. Osomatsu-san Maybe Japan's taste is different than the elitists who are active, but Japan's taste is pretty similar to mine. I’m pretty happy with their number second ^.^ |
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Daniel_Naumov said: Mullerio said: Different culture. And wtf is "our", if you mean western audiences. We all do not have the same taste. I think FMA:B and SNK are average Shounens and many people disagree with that.... They might agree with you if, when you exclaim so, you support your thoughts with reasoning and analysis. I did on multiple occasions, but many still disagree with me and there is nothing wrong with that. My point was that saying "our" in this matter seems pretty foolish to me since there is no such thing as "our" taste when we talk about masses like OP did. |
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