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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Well that was interesting. Roid leading his men with that speech of his. Oh and Keith is back too! Heinz's singing is apparently amplified as part of the grand plan. They made him look like a singing God this episode lol. Meanwhile, I think the aerial knights' attack came with quite a surprise. Keith's speed and maneuvers with the wind is pretty much inhuman ;o New OP song is alright, personally I liked the previous one better though. |
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| Jesus Shirokishi-sama? wew, his skill has become even better than legendary. Omg Heinz singing the full version of song, please make me Var. |
| Windermere continues with their mind controlling ways. I know we're supposed to feel sympathy for them, but they have lost any kind of moral authority with their atrocities. Bad thing for them is they're being played and at one point the carpet will be pulled out from under them. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| So, Arad know Hayate's father huh? This episode pretty much focused on Windermere side, even I watched for Freyja. |
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Farabeuf said: Windermere continues with their mind controlling ways. I know we're supposed to feel sympathy for them, but they have lost any kind of moral authority with their atrocities. Bad thing for them is they're being played and at one point the carpet will be pulled out from under them. With Roid's warmongering speech, perhaps the scriptor doesn't want you to feel sympathy for them? --- new OP is ok, not as catchy as OP1 ED2 is still epic after one week of cycling |
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GD1551 said: Terrible episode, one unit taking out an entire fleet? Come on now... Also why didn't they just wait until the song was over? They literally know that there's a period where the king must rest and cannot sing. Not to mention, how long to they expect to keep up this strategy anyway? It was shown earlier that it greatly weakens the king to even sing like that. I hate the direction this is going, while there's a feasible reason they CAN control the galaxy, why wouldn't NUNS just bomb all the ruins? Because their runes power got even stronger due to the kings voice... However that happens is a mystery. Wait until the song is over? They're idiot Earthlings (Just like idiot humans nowadays, they want to rush things). Also, I don't think everyone in the forces knew that the King had a time limit. Pretty sure it was only known within the main singers, flyers, etc. |
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| Hope NUNS and Elysion team crush Windermere all! This Macross series make me bored and stress sometimrs. I rather watching Macross F and Macross back than this one. The song overall good and great but can't beat Sherly Nome and Ranka also Fire Bomber yet. |
| so Hayate's father maybe a traitor huh cannot wait for the revelation on that one, hopefully by next episode |
| so mikumo was a previous wind singer or sth? i'm really interested in her past at least, and hayate's father. |
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| Seriously, how the fuck can you explain just how Hayate even managed to fight on par with Keith two episodes ago? The guy took out an entire fleet all by himself. Even with Freyja's songs muddling up the wind he shouldn't even have been lucky enough to be able to touch this guy, let alone injure him. I'm guessing Hayate's suppose to have some tragic past or what not, but frankly given what the NUN did to Windermere, I couldn't give a damn. Lies, cover ups and attempted genocide just to hide their shady dealings. They deserve their justice, and the Spacey Government better own up to their corrupt crap. |
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GD1551 said: Tyrel said: Because their runes power got even stronger due to the kings voice... However that happens is a mystery. Wait until the song is over? They're idiot Earthlings (Just like idiot humans nowadays, they want to rush things). Also, I don't think everyone in the forces knew that the King had a time limit. Pretty sure it was only known within the main singers, flyers, etc. Didn't they tell the NUNS representative about the limit when he was telling them what they would do if they couldn't stop Windemere? Judging by the anti-song machines, they tried to do a surprise attack, probably to kill the King. It was a good strategy and could have ended the war at once, but the Windermere are just too good with protoculture ruins for that too work. In other words, with what they knew the strategy was good. But it's impossible to know what technology Windermere has thanks to Protoculture ruins. Viktor_Otaku said: So Windemere changes from liberator to conqueror eh ? What liberators? They were conquering from the start: none of planets they "liberated" were Windermere colonies. L-Ryoshi said: Seriously, how the fuck can you explain just how Hayate even managed to fight on par with Keith two episodes ago? The guy took out an entire fleet all by himself. Even with Freyja's songs muddling up the wind he shouldn't even have been lucky enough to be able to touch this guy, let alone injure him. Hayate beat him under the influence of Freya's song, White Knight destroyed this fleet under the influence of the amplified Wind Song. In other words, the battles are 75% song drug, 25% skill. |
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Aventine said: L-Ryoshi said: Seriously, how the fuck can you explain just how Hayate even managed to fight on par with Keith two episodes ago? The guy took out an entire fleet all by himself. Even with Freyja's songs muddling up the wind he shouldn't even have been lucky enough to be able to touch this guy, let alone injure him. I'm guessing Hayate's suppose to have some tragic past or what not, but frankly given what the NUN did to Windermere, I couldn't give a damn. Lies, cover ups and attempted genocide just to hide their shady dealings. They deserve their justice, and the Spacey Government better own up to their corrupt crap. If NUN really want to attempt genocide Windamere would be a crater-filled rock 7 years ago. Hayate buffed=Keith unbuffed. Keith buffed=shooting down JAMMERS of some ships. I think we've already established that Hayate is a human and hence can't be "buffed" like other species, also that in the history of Macross, that songs don't"buff" aliens. Plus, if you watched the episode, you'd have already seen them drop the dimensional bomb or whatever it's called. The NUN fucked up and tried to get rid of evidence by blowing said crater in Windamere. It was literally shown in broadcast videos during this episode. |
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Aventine said: L-Ryoshi said: I think we've already established that Hayate is a human and hence can't be "buffed" like other species, also that in the history of Macross, that songs don't"buff" aliens. Plus, if you watched the episode, you'd have already seen them drop the dimensional bomb or whatever it's called. The NUN fucked up and tried to get rid of evidence by blowing said crater in Windamere. It was literally shown in broadcast videos during this episode. Are you serious? dude got light trails, wind-feeling/seeing and the whole package. I mean remember how he resonant(or something like that) with Frejya when he shot down Bogue? If NUN want them dead the Windamere would be FILLED with craters, no justa single one and call it a day. And that is if Episilon or some shady third-party isnt involved ,the cat people leader himself have some doubts when talking to Lloyd about how did what. Watch the episode again, the broadcast was of what happened seven years ago, the Walkuria girl clearly identified the ship dropping the bomb as from the NUN. What more evidence do you want? |
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Aventine said: L-Ryoshi said: Watch the episode again, the broadcast was of what happened seven years ago, the Walkuria girl clearly identified the ship dropping the bomb as from the NUN. What more evidence do you want? Like how Galaxy was suppose to be on the Frontier & NUN side? Well conspiracy, Epsilon and anti-UN group aside, NUN did not attempt genocide on Windamere, nuked it likely, awful yes, unknown purpose yes. And you're so sure how? What's to say that the anti-UN group ain't a part of the NUN? |
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Aventine said: L-Ryoshi said: And you're so sure how? What's to say that the anti-UN group ain't a part of the NUN? I only gave out a possibility that a third party might have a hand in it, given there are like 10 more ep to go, the one being "so sure" who did it was you. I'm going by the given evidence, plus the dude who ordered the bombing of the relic/ruins two episodes back was also part of the NUN. Why would they do so if they didn't have something to hide? The evidence stacks up. |
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| Kt seems .............. |
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Aventine said: L-Ryoshi said: I'm going by the given evidence, plus the dude who ordered the bombing of the relic/ruins two episodes back was also part of the NUN. Why would they do so if they didn't have something to hide? The evidence stacks up. Well, maybe try to blow up a giant enemy ship is a good idea? Current Delta also have Epsilon and/or Anti-UN forces, which somehow know suspiciously alot about var and ruins and song transmission through them and whatnot, having their own agenda and was treated very good by the weird windamere-superiority complex Lloyd. I gave out possiblities base on what the show have shown, not saying anything for certain Need I remind you that Hayate's destroyed ship was in the blast radius? He and the rest of delta almost died there. Good idea my butt. |
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| A bit boring but we got to know what Windermere isn't over with their conquering yet. They shown a footage of the bombing, maybe this means we'll see what really happen back then. I'm also curious on Hayate's past including his dad and Mikumo's past as well. |
Aventine said: L-Ryoshi said: Need I remind you that Hayate's destroyed ship was in the blast radius? He and the rest of delta almost died there. which is a part of the whole "blowing up ruin on Ragna" plan. So? All I said is NUN wanted to kill the flagship. Cannot tell if that's your admittance that factions in the NUN are evil or not... The fact that they didn't even bother warning Delta to GTFO before they started shooting at the Windimere flagship. |
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| Probably the worst episode so far and this episode really proved it to me I don't really give a shit about Windermiere and this episode was 90% focused on them. |
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| Heinz's speech in a nutshell This Windermere shit's almost ridiculous enough to become it's own meme. Also I seriously fucking hope that they never do another full on action scene where the only music is that fucking wind song. Goddamn that shit seriously hurts my ears. I know they spammed Aimo like once an episode in the second half of Frontier, but aimo is at least tolerable, whereas this shit is only tolerable for like 15 seconds at a time. If this becomes a regular thing ima have to drop this shiz. |
| Somewhat meh episode, but I'm quite intrigued about Mikumo's and Hayate's past. New OP isn't as good as the first one, but it will probably grow on me. |
| Still on the MEH~ train. New OP is shit when you compare it to the ED. They AKBing too hard. I feel they made this episode just to prolong the show time. NUNS are doing their jerks (everyone knows that.) The Winderemere trying to act like freaken saviors. I'm really not impressed with the direction of the show. Only bit that advance the plot was the little scene at end with the pilot knowing Hayate father. And that saved it from a 2/5 AAAAnd next episode gonna be 3/4 cheezy+cringe stuff and 1/4 ok story. Hope I'm wrong. |
Whoahoho said: So, Arad know Hayate's father , so what's the deal about his father that just mentioning his name is a big no no? If Mikumo is a former wind singer, then would that also makes her a windermere? Dibs on Wright Immelman is the Pilot of the YF-22 that dropped the Dimension Bomb. lol Nope, it will not make her a Windermere, it will make her a "protoculture-an", the ancestors of the windermere. If things are true, she's going to be like Javik from Mass Effect, a Protean, an ancient race that started the whole galaxy. |
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| winderwatever shit they are called thinks they are all acting high and mighty...you just want Mikumo goddess will reemergence! just like a reincarnation? LOL or might be Mikumo is related to windermwatever shit. 3/5. |
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Tenth said: Probably the worst episode so far and this episode really proved it to me I don't really give a shit about Windermiere and this episode was 90% focused on them. Yeah, same here. It's a shame. :/ I was at least able to sympathize with other alien invaders/attackers in the previous macross series, but I just can't deal with their stupid magical hair nerve thingies. It makes it impossible to take them serious. [IN A MACROSS SHOW, SO THAT'S SAYING SOMETHING.] |
Ericonator said: By definition, everything is retro since by the time you realize something has happened it's already in the past.  |
| Pretty weak episode, but the cliffhanger was very nice |
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