Re:ZERO -Starting Life in Another World- (light novel)
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Xilium7 said: I just can't get on this "Subaru is normal" train. Everything he does is stereotypical shonen protagonist BS, he just happens to suck at it. If he were normal, this show would have ended with episode 2 when, after dying and resurrecting the first time, he would be like "fuck this shit, I'm out". At best, we would have had an anime about him trying to get back home. Instead, in typical shonen protagonist fashion, dude becomes obsessed with protecting the main heroine, because reasons, and develops some sort of hero complex. Unlike most protagonist though, he's weak and things don't just magically work out for him, which might have been interesting if not for the fact that he's immortal and that all just becomes a moot point. The show sets this dude up as someone from the "real world". You would think that after realizing he wasn't some chosen one manga protagonist he would at least stop with the heroics. At the very least, you would expect him to become a more intellectual character given his circumstances but nope. Instead we get a guy that is constantly getting into fights he knows he can't win, creepily stalking the main heroine, becoming best buds with people that killed him, and frequently having emotional outburst/fits. Typical anime shit. Normal, he is not. At best, he's crazy and needs to be put into a mental institution. At worst (and more likely) he's, by design, a shitty shonen protagonist. In any case, he's not an interesting character, he's just plain annoying and drags the rest of the show down. ^^THis x100 times |
| It only took 13 episodes for anti hype bandwagon to catch on lol As for the show its consistently fun to watch. |
moodie said: I don't think anyone should care because we know how the story it's going to turn out.It only took 13 episodes for anti hype bandwagon to catch on lol As for the show its consistently fun to watch. It's not a Kabaneri or Kiznaiver situation. |
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mohamedgx said: People complain when their anime doesnt go there way. Classic plebs imo.What truly pisses me off is people have kept talking how lame mc like kirito are, now we finally get a good one like subaru with many faults and people still complain |
Fai said: TeamDalaiLana said: The overreactions.... I can see people having a huge fit when the show ends. Because it will NOT be your typical HAPPY ending show. I honestly hope people are prepared for the absolute depressing nature of what's to come. For me I think that's just beautiful. I love sadness and depression so it's perfect. TeamDalaiLana said: ummm no? That would be a very cliche protag. A protagonist is simply the lead character. It could be a villain, an idiot, anyone. He should not be despicable inconsistent stalker. Especially not in the show which is entirely based around viewers caring about the protagonist succeeding. At least Akame ga kill had a clear direction, and the drama most of the time was well justified even if Tatsumi was ''i will protect u all'' nerd generic MC.It made sense. ''Burasu'' gives his life for a maid he met a few days ago, and in the previous time loup he killed him.LMAO |
SubxaeroJun 26, 2016 11:55 PM
Jakez123 said: eso18 said: In the middle of episode I was preparing myself to hate on Subaru on few forums. How his character suddenly degreased and how he suddenly does one stupid thing or another for Emilia, without considering her situation at all. Generally I wanted to hate on him for being stupid MC who started doing stupid stuff all just for story purposes so the story can continue with election with Subaru taking part in them as well. Show has to include it's protagonist in the show's main storyline. Still as much as I wanted to hate on him, when the last scenes appeared it hit me, that even though the second arc was successfully completed, Subaru is far from being mentally stable... quite the opposite in fact. He took part in two arcs, and with his effort those two stories ended up good but at this point he has reached the assumption that if he doesn't do well, the next problem will continue until he saves the day again, and before that happens he will have to die, times and times again. I'm getting the same vibes, think of his mentality, at the start he's half decent. But as he goes on, he keeps dying, no one remembers who he is, he has to constantly re-live the days over and over again until he gets a good outcome for everyone. He has to then constantly rekindle his relationships with his friends over and over again. He's obviously becoming mentally unstable. It reminds me of Steins;Gate, in that Okabe slowly goes mad from continuously time leaping over and over again. Going from someone who cared about his friends and being genuinely sad by Mayuri's death, to someone who would stick around to see how she would die or try and get Daru run over to see what would happen - His entire reason for time leaping was to protect people, yet at the end he wanted to hurt and rape his friends. I think Subaru is going through that, but in his case - it's kind of worse than Okabe's, Okabe has friends to rely on (Makise, Suzuha, Daru etc.), Subaru has no one, he can;t get help, he's essentially on his own. I feel bad for him. But yes, I was thinking "Go jump off the roof and reset you scrub, you done fucked it up". Or at least keep committing suicide until you can beat Julius, that would be pretty sick, from other people's perspective,he goes from absolute loser with mediocre skills to a swordmaster in the blink of an eye. And then everyone will be like "wtf?" I agree. The poor guy's been getting killed over and over again for about a month or two and people expect him to still be mentally stable? This episode was proof that he's hit the breaking point. I can only hope that the next few episodes will revolve around him regaining at least some of his sanity but my suspicion is that wont be the case. He'll probably be killed by a knight or something stupid. |
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| Barusu goofed real hard at the end there. Hopefully his next checkpoint isn't after that if he happens to die sometime in the near future.. |
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| Subaru got put in his place! Man, I really feel for him, I'm surprised he hasn't just absolutely lost it by now, well I guess he will soon? Oh Emilia if only you knew. ReZero ranked 39?! Wow. |
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| Subaru committed only one mistake.. be a human Post Traumatic 2 War Soldiers can anwser your question about Subaru actions. |
| Man that was REALLY Hard to watch.......while I'm sure this is what would happen with classic PTSD, It still doesn't make it less cringe worthy. This is the first episode in this series that I not only didn't like but hated. Hopefully he gets himself in a stable mind set though I doubt it. Hope next weeks episode is better. |
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QcK_Dagger_HeaT said: Man that was REALLY Hard to watch.......while I'm sure this is what would happen with classic PTSD, It still doesn't make it less cringe worthy. This is the first episode in this series that I not only didn't like but hated. Hopefully he gets himself in a stable mind set though I doubt it. Hope next weeks episode is better. Yeah it was pretty cringe worthy but I think that's how they intended it. I enjoyed it although I enjoy episodes where he is in control of the situation a lot more but this is his first try on this part so of course it never goes down perfectly, He can't always be in control and he still doesn't completely understand the world he's in or how his action effects those around him. |
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| At this point, he should kill himself now because he already lost the reason to live. Unless one of the candidates(Most likely Priscilla or Felt) will adopt him and make him more mentally stable. I do understand Subaru since I was on that same boat as him but Emilia is right, he's doing those for himself and not totally for her. Resetting and make different choice will be the best option for him. |
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Tyrina said: Tennouji said: Agreed, with all those knights aiming at his neck, he'd be better restarting. Though restarting would mean worsening his mental states even moreAt this point, he should kill himself now because he already lost the reason to live. Unless one of the candidates(Most likely Priscilla or Felt) will adopt him and make him more mentally stable. I do understand Subaru since I was on that same boat as him but Emilia is right, he's doing those for himself and not totally for her. Resetting and make different choice will be the best option for him. Well of course he shouldn't just simply restart without making a plan and not making himself dedicated to his next choice/path and be now stable/rational. Take at the episode where he kills himself after discovering Rem is the one who's attempting to kill him(Or Ram wants to kill him, I forgot which) as his best example. |
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stone616 said: Tevens said: I can only see people insulting this anime just because the mc being stupidly cringe in this episode so....i'm out of this thread. Looks like many people doesn't give a fuck with the plot development, characterization and the plot development anymore.....so im out. The anime would be so much better with a mc who was actually a likable person and who had decent sense. The idea of him being her knight is laughable. He's just a human punching bag who's only real value is to make mistakes and die so he can later avoid them. He thought some black smoke was gonna be the difference between him and a guy who likely trained all his life to be what he is. That being said I'm at least curious about the plot points they keep avoiding like the curse, witch, and why he was brought to the world so I keep watching in hopes that the source material has actually reached a point to explain any of that so it can be animated. well, someone finally understand what's going on. i can't talk back if you dislike what subaru did in this episode cause i really dislike it but the execution, imo, really great. well, most people would obviously dislike the mc if the mc did a very stupid thing xD |
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Subxaero said: mahoupenisu said: ngl...this anime being ranked #39 of all time bothers me. i get that everything on this site is wildly overrated, but #39? WHat bothers me is that this anime is not even a good anime that has been overrated to ''classic'' but its an overall mediocre anime with many flows. I myself dont like a few top 50 animes, but every single of them has something to justify it.THis anime is a total mess, Dude. Why are you bothered about people liking this show and rating it high? You do realize not everyone have the same tastes and preferences right? |
bacapo said: Tevens said: Maybe they are shock, most anime only give good things from good side. Can't deny Subaru character is ugly and bad but that make him normal realistic naive human boy, and it's more interesting how story will developing him.I can only see people insulting this anime just because the mc being stupidly cringe in this episode so....i'm out of this thread. Looks like many people doesn't give a fuck with the plot development, characterization and the character d evelopment anymore.....so im out. yeah, i can't deny that too. i really dislike subaru in this episode. but if we think at how they executed the plot and character development, i think it was a great execution for subaru and emilia character in this episode. |
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Tennouji said: At this point, he should kill himself now because he already lost the reason to live. Unless one of the candidates(Most likely Priscilla or Felt) will adopt him and make him more mentally stable. I do understand Subaru since I was on that same boat as him but Emilia is right, he's doing those for himself and not totally for her. Resetting and make different choice will be the best option for him. agree. and probably we will be seeing another death in the next episode lol xD i just don't know how he will die tho.... |
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Tyrina said: QcK_Dagger_HeaT said: Man that was REALLY Hard to watch.......while I'm sure this is what would happen with classic PTSD, It still doesn't make it less cringe worthy. This is the first episode in this series that I not only didn't like but hated. Hopefully he gets himself in a stable mind set though I doubt it. Hope next weeks episode is better. judging from the flow, next ep would be just the same atmosphere i think, with all the consequences of all shit he done being thrown straight into his face. I'd take 2 or more ep till he bounces back and appear as a changed man. Remember, there's 24 ep lol Haha yea that's true and I think the third novel will be adapted for the rest of the episodes from what people were discussing. I think this arc is a pretty big arc. Hopefully we will bounce back though |
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| Great episode! Subaru feels really real, at least in comparison with other similarly-placed characters in fantasy worlds. Can't wait for more. |
Subxaero said: Xilium7 said: I just can't get on this "Subaru is normal" train. Everything he does is stereotypical shonen protagonist BS, he just happens to suck at it. If he were normal, this show would have ended with episode 2 when, after dying and resurrecting the first time, he would be like "fuck this shit, I'm out". At best, we would have had an anime about him trying to get back home. Instead, in typical shonen protagonist fashion, dude becomes obsessed with protecting the main heroine, because reasons, and develops some sort of hero complex. Unlike most protagonist though, he's weak and things don't just magically work out for him, which might have been interesting if not for the fact that he's immortal and that all just becomes a moot point. The show sets this dude up as someone from the "real world". You would think that after realizing he wasn't some chosen one manga protagonist he would at least stop with the heroics. At the very least, you would expect him to become a more intellectual character given his circumstances but nope. Instead we get a guy that is constantly getting into fights he knows he can't win, creepily stalking the main heroine, becoming best buds with people that killed him, and frequently having emotional outburst/fits. Typical anime shit. Normal, he is not. At best, he's crazy and needs to be put into a mental institution. At worst (and more likely) he's, by design, a shitty shonen protagonist. In any case, he's not an interesting character, he's just plain annoying and drags the rest of the show down. ^^THis x100 times Pretty much what me and few other guys have been saying since the start of the series. Even a normal human being would learn from his mistakes and figure that there are certain things that can and cannot be done in a weird situation like his. Seriously it shouldn't take 10+ deaths for someone to start fitting into a world that doesn't belong to himself, and yet after all the times he's died, Barusu is still his same stupid old self with his same-ass attitude problems and "I'm the shounen MC, everything should work for me" mindset. This episode was particularly enjoyable for me to watch, though I really wish Julis actually crippled him or something. This idiot needs to learn his lessons faster than the speed he is right now. If dying 10+ times cannot cure you of your stupidity, you really should just kill yourself and never revive. Emilia is way too kind, though to be fair she was telling the truth in the throne room. Barusu isn't her attendant nor her knight, he's just a lowly servant of Rosewall. One thing I didn't appreciate was how they chopped and changed up the priestess' speeches, which were way more epic than the silly one-liner we got here. I guess they really want to finish the arc in its entirety if they're skipping stuff like that. Seeing a little more of Emilia was nice here, but considering she'll be disappearing for another 7 or 8 episodes after this.... it still doesn't debunk my image of her being just a plot device. It's a shame we don't get more of Barusu's suffering. Time to go rewatch this episode XD |
L-RyoshiJun 27, 2016 1:11 AM
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Subxaero said: Xilium7 said: I just can't get on this "Subaru is normal" train. Everything he does is stereotypical shonen protagonist BS, he just happens to suck at it. If he were normal, this show would have ended with episode 2 when, after dying and resurrecting the first time, he would be like "fuck this shit, I'm out". At best, we would have had an anime about him trying to get back home. Instead, in typical shonen protagonist fashion, dude becomes obsessed with protecting the main heroine, because reasons, and develops some sort of hero complex. Unlike most protagonist though, he's weak and things don't just magically work out for him, which might have been interesting if not for the fact that he's immortal and that all just becomes a moot point. The show sets this dude up as someone from the "real world". You would think that after realizing he wasn't some chosen one manga protagonist he would at least stop with the heroics. At the very least, you would expect him to become a more intellectual character given his circumstances but nope. Instead we get a guy that is constantly getting into fights he knows he can't win, creepily stalking the main heroine, becoming best buds with people that killed him, and frequently having emotional outburst/fits. Typical anime shit. Normal, he is not. At best, he's crazy and needs to be put into a mental institution. At worst (and more likely) he's, by design, a shitty shonen protagonist. In any case, he's not an interesting character, he's just plain annoying and drags the rest of the show down. ^^THis x100 times All true, THIS! some people may think that Subaru is normal, that what he said to Emilia is the most humane thing to do, as for me no it is not, I woulda fled in an instant after dying the first time, I aint stickin with someone thats targeted just to go with her on a date or just because I have a thing for her, most of all I AINT GONNA BE FRIENDS WITH PEOPLE THAT I KNOW KILLED ME. Then again if Subaru was normal we wouldnt be able to get this story right now so lets go BS story with our mc head over heels or rather obssesed with a girl that simply saved him from getting trashed. |
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| I knew suffering was coming but damn... I guess there are more ways to show that than just straight up physical pain. He looks like he suffered here more than any of his previous deaths. |
Cmterio said: Subaru committed only one mistake.. be a human Post Traumatic 2 War Soldiers can anwser your question about Subaru actions. There's also the fact that he's also in a completely unfamiliar place, there are most likely a number of things weighing down on him mentally as a result of all this that aren't just what could be developing into a very severe case of PTSD. Especially now that he's been rejected by what he considered to be the anchor of his mental stability. I'm very much looking forward to the next episode |
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-Stray said: All true, THIS! some people may think that Subaru is normal, that what he said to Emilia is the most humane thing to do, as for me no it is not, I woulda fled in an instant after dying the first time, I aint stickin with someone thats targeted just to go with her on a date or just because I have a thing for her, most of all I AINT GONNA BE FRIENDS WITH PEOPLE THAT I KNOW KILLED ME. Then again if Subaru was normal we wouldnt be able to get this story right now so lets go BS story with our mc head over heels or rather obssesed with a girl that simply saved him from getting trashed. Subaru is more plot device than the character. Show (and more importantly, its plot) wouldn't even exist without him. This is something that hardcore fans of the show actually realise too. He must act the way he acts because otherwise there won't be any story. |
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| It took like a good 9 episodes for me to finally warm up to Subaru and now he lost it again at episode 13. The way they put his emotions into play feel way too forced and this time it seemed like he really had to go out of character just to have things play out this way. The Subaru advertised usually always had something snarky and uplifting to say while showing his determination and loyalty to Emilia. In this episode he did a complete 180 and started having crazy eyes simply by being asked what makes him a knight. It was very out of character and although he had his 'crazy moments' already, it seems very far-fetched to be so aggressive with a guy he literally had only spoken to before for a single minute. Who knows though maybe that's the fault of the adaption and the source material explains it better. |
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beast_regards said: -Stray said: All true, THIS! some people may think that Subaru is normal, that what he said to Emilia is the most humane thing to do, as for me no it is not, I woulda fled in an instant after dying the first time, I aint stickin with someone thats targeted just to go with her on a date or just because I have a thing for her, most of all I AINT GONNA BE FRIENDS WITH PEOPLE THAT I KNOW KILLED ME. Then again if Subaru was normal we wouldnt be able to get this story right now so lets go BS story with our mc head over heels or rather obssesed with a girl that simply saved him from getting trashed. Subaru is more plot device than the character. Show (and more importantly, its plot) wouldn't even exist without him. This is something that hardcore fans of the show actually realise too. He must act the way he acts because otherwise there won't be any story. True, I did admit that, if he was normal we woulndt be able to get the story we have now. |
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Ragix said: It took like a good 9 episodes for me to finally warm up to Subaru and now he lost it again at episode 13. The way they put his emotions into play feel way too forced and this time it seemed like he really had to go out of character just to have things play out this way. The Subaru advertised usually always had something snarky and uplifting to say while showing his determination and loyalty to Emilia. In this episode he did a complete 180 and started having crazy eyes simply by being asked what makes him a knight. It was very out of character and although he had his 'crazy moments' already, it seems very far-fetched to be so aggressive with a guy he literally had only spoken to before for a single minute. Who knows though maybe that's the fault of the adaption and the source material explains it better. Think of it this way, he has an ability to revive after death AND he's been transported to some strange world. In his mind, he's the hero of this show and the world is his oyster. I think his admission that Emilia should be owing him just showed that perfectly. In his mind, she's suppose to be his property (or someone who will be in the future). It's not him being loyal to her (otherwise he wouldn't have even gone to the palace), it's him trying his utmost to prove to her and everyone else in this world that he's some sort of special existence that he is worthy of being the King to her Queen. He hasn't even bothered much to find out the mechanics of this world he's been transported to, much less the proper etiquette or the way he should be acting towards others of higher standing than him. He relies mostly on his own LN shounen knowledge to get by most of the time, and any knowledge of the world that he comes into contact with is always just something that happens to have been mentioned by others around him, but not because he asked about it. He's your typical spoiled brat who cannot take criticism, even if it's the absolute truth, and would rather use sneak attacks and throw sand in the face of his opponent rather than back down and apologize for running his own mouth at the Royal Imperial Order of knights because he felt that Julis was trying to NTR Emilia away from him (he was being polite and kissing her hand for fuck sake, chivalry really is dead). Plus, he doesn't even think of the consequences of his own actions towards those around him, how considerate of others is he really? If you think of most of the things he's done, then what he did this episode really isn't all that out of character. |
L-RyoshiJun 27, 2016 1:44 AM
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| 1st time seeing subaru do a wrong move there but i don't blame, his mind is depressed from death by death happening to him, i feel sad for him.... overall good episode, we need the next episode right now though :D 8/10 |
L-Ryoshi said: Think of it this way, he has an ability to revive after death AND he's been transported to some strange world. In his mind, he's the hero of this show and the world is his oyster. I think his admission that Emilia should be owing him just showed that perfectly. In his mind, she's suppose to be his property (or someone who will be in the future). It's not him being loyal to her (otherwise he wouldn't have even gone to the palace), it's him trying his utmost to prove to her and everyone else in this world that he's some sort of special existence that he is worthy of being the King to her Queen. He hasn't even bothered much to find out the mechanics of this world he's been transported to, much less the proper etiquette or the way he should be acting towards others of higher standing than him. He relies mostly on his own LN shounen knowledge to get by most of the time, and any knowledge of the world that he comes into contact with is always just something that happens to have been mentioned by others around him, but not because he asked about it. He's your typical spoiled brat who cannot take criticism, even if it's the absolute truth, and would rather use sneak attacks and throw sand in the face of his opponent rather than back down and apologize for running his own mouth at the Royal Imperial Order of knights because he felt that Julis was trying to NTR Emilia away from him (he was being polite and kissing her hand for fuck sake, chivalry really is dead). Plus, he doesn't even think of the consequences of his own actions towards those around him, how considerate of others is he really? If you think of most of the things he's done, then what he did this episode really isn't all that out of character. I agree with that sentiment, which is probably a huge reason why I dislike his character. Subaru comes from glorious modern-day Nippon, is a NEET and loved manga, etc. Like you said, he didn't really 'flip out' about the whole transportation thing, etc. because he thought, "FUCK YEAH, IN MY OWN ANIMU."; However, what I don't like about his character either is that he can't decide to 'evolve' or stay static. The reason why I think it's so out of character is because after experiencing all those harrowing deaths, meeting companions, etc. he began to have more composure and a sense of duty than he started with. Then, as soon as we get to this episode, all that flies out the window that he learned because he reverted back to his, "I AM ANIME MC" Form. The reason I began warming up to him is because I noticed the progression and changes he was making to be a better well-rounded character. It only took half of an episode to just chuck that progression we made from episode 1 to now out the window and start from the beginning again as our half-baked hero. |
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Ragix said: L-Ryoshi said: Think of it this way, he has an ability to revive after death AND he's been transported to some strange world. In his mind, he's the hero of this show and the world is his oyster. I think his admission that Emilia should be owing him just showed that perfectly. In his mind, she's suppose to be his property (or someone who will be in the future). It's not him being loyal to her (otherwise he wouldn't have even gone to the palace), it's him trying his utmost to prove to her and everyone else in this world that he's some sort of special existence that he is worthy of being the King to her Queen. He hasn't even bothered much to find out the mechanics of this world he's been transported to, much less the proper etiquette or the way he should be acting towards others of higher standing than him. He relies mostly on his own LN shounen knowledge to get by most of the time, and any knowledge of the world that he comes into contact with is always just something that happens to have been mentioned by others around him, but not because he asked about it. He's your typical spoiled brat who cannot take criticism, even if it's the absolute truth, and would rather use sneak attacks and throw sand in the face of his opponent rather than back down and apologize for running his own mouth at the Royal Imperial Order of knights because he felt that Julis was trying to NTR Emilia away from him (he was being polite and kissing her hand for fuck sake, chivalry really is dead). Plus, he doesn't even think of the consequences of his own actions towards those around him, how considerate of others is he really? If you think of most of the things he's done, then what he did this episode really isn't all that out of character. I agree with that sentiment, which is probably a huge reason why I dislike his character. Subaru comes from glorious modern-day Nippon, is a NEET and loved manga, etc. Like you said, he didn't really 'flip out' about the whole transportation thing, etc. because he thought, "FUCK YEAH, IN MY OWN ANIMU."; However, what I don't like about his character either is that he can't decide to 'evolve' or stay static. The reason why I think it's so out of character is because after experiencing all those harrowing deaths, meeting companions, etc. he began to have more composure and a sense of duty than he started with. Then, as soon as we get to this episode, all that flies out the window that he learned because he reverted back to his, "I AM ANIME MC" Form. The reason I began warming up to him is because I noticed the progression and changes he was making to be a better well-rounded character. It only took half of an episode to just chuck that progression we made from episode 1 to now out the window and start from the beginning again as our half-baked hero. Trust me, I've been having the same problems with his character since the middle of the first arc. I agree with your sentiments 100% |
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| Subaru is the most annoying character in anything, ever. How anyone can stand him is beyond me. |
| Reading this thread makes me lose faith in MAL users again *sigh* Anyone who thinks this is character consistency or a dumb forced drama should take a psychological class or force a professional psychologist to watch this series and listen to his/her opinion. It's beyond of a doubt that the difference in Arc 2 and current arc is obvious, Arc 2 has a goal which is survive, Arc 3 does not. Subaru's character progression in Arc 2 is supposed to be adapt him in situations like Arc 2, which is something that is insanely unwanted happens to him. Arc 3 story meanwhile isn't even similar to Arc 2 hence his second psychological breakdown as his personality is unable to face that the fact in Arc 3, there is no goal or mission or any kind of goals.... Let's put it on a much simpler form... Arc 1 and Arc 2 develops Subaru personality from "Oh boy I'm in a fantasy world! I bet I'm the MC! Now where's my superpower?!" to "Oh boy this is tougher than I thought, but as long as I have the composure and think about this predicament realistically I still can be an MC of this show!". Now what Arc 3 does is nothing but a plain, simple "Oh no... I'm not the MC..." Hm, Maybe that's too simple of an analogue, eh it's the main point anyway and the only way to explain it to you dense knuckledaggers. I guess this anime is 2deep4u lots. |
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L-Ryoshi said: Ragix said: It took like a good 9 episodes for me to finally warm up to Subaru and now he lost it again at episode 13. The way they put his emotions into play feel way too forced and this time it seemed like he really had to go out of character just to have things play out this way. The Subaru advertised usually always had something snarky and uplifting to say while showing his determination and loyalty to Emilia. In this episode he did a complete 180 and started having crazy eyes simply by being asked what makes him a knight. It was very out of character and although he had his 'crazy moments' already, it seems very far-fetched to be so aggressive with a guy he literally had only spoken to before for a single minute. Who knows though maybe that's the fault of the adaption and the source material explains it better. Think of it this way, he has an ability to revive after death AND he's been transported to some strange world. In his mind, he's the hero of this show and the world is his oyster. I think his admission that Emilia should be owing him just showed that perfectly. In his mind, she's suppose to be his property (or someone who will be in the future). It's not him being loyal to her (otherwise he wouldn't have even gone to the palace), it's him trying his utmost to prove to her and everyone else in this world that he's some sort of special existence that he is worthy of being the King to her Queen. He hasn't even bothered much to find out the mechanics of this world he's been transported to, much less the proper etiquette or the way he should be acting towards others of higher standing than him. He relies mostly on his own LN shounen knowledge to get by most of the time, and any knowledge of the world that he comes into contact with is always just something that happens to have been mentioned by others around him, but not because he asked about it. He's your typical spoiled brat who cannot take criticism, even if it's the absolute truth, and would rather use sneak attacks and throw sand in the face of his opponent rather than back down and apologize for running his own mouth at the Royal Imperial Order of knights because he felt that Julis was trying to NTR Emilia away from him (he was being polite and kissing her hand for fuck sake, chivalry really is dead). Plus, he doesn't even think of the consequences of his own actions towards those around him, how considerate of others is he really? If you think of most of the things he's done, then what he did this episode really isn't all that out of character. And thats my issue with the writer of the anime,i mean its 1 thing to make a dumb and annoying character that makes some sense. But all i see is ''Barusu'' being a complete muppet in his hands, making irrelevant and random twists and then bring forced drama to the table. We are talking about a guy that dies every few days and who got immensely pissed of(to the point he held a grudge against a knight that made a (knightly) gesture on EMilia.ANd not only that but he goes to heights of ruining the whole royal procedure and bashing the knights. In the writer's head'' How do i justify SUbaru's outburst, and create a cliffhanger once again in a very important part of the episode.''a Ahhhh i will just use the stupid Subaru,his stupidity and overeaction justifies everything and i can get away with it... i will also add some drama just to be sure''' |
jc9622 said: Hehe, this guy completely gets it. For the mean time, I think I'd rather read the discussions on reddit than MAL because most of the guys there understood what happened and why the MC was acting like that. In here, it's completely different. It's like they never went to college before. I know right! I honestly feel like I'm looking at 4chan instead of MAL. Reddit users definitely have more brain in them and can make sense on why this episode presents this twist and character development. |
| Don't attribute maliciousness when stupidity is enough to explain what happens |
| Damn this guy is way too obsessed with her, this episode clearly showcased that. I mean I understand why he digs Emilia so much who wouldnt but he's at that straight up cringe level. I hope if he dies he "respawns" some time before the selection or something otherwise holy shit bro you fucked up big time. |
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| So does Subaru's respawn points only trigger when he comes close to death? If that's the case, then he won't be able to change any of this which is probably a good thing in terms of character development. Fail hard and learn from your mistakes. Would make the show more interesting at least. |
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