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Feb 19, 2016 8:39 PM

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It's true, and it explains why there are more male anime fans (and thus more males on this forum).

I agree with the responses here, imo 3 things :
- japanese male market (most likely)
- japanese culture (maybe?)
- nature of animation (female characters just look that much better than their male counterparts)


Now can someone tell me why does drama aim for girls...
Feb 19, 2016 8:40 PM

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DrGeroCreation said:
@Mayuka I doubt it's as large as the male otaku fanbase. My mistake it seemed like a plain directed insult not a joke to elicit any form of laughter whatsoever.
lmao Osomatsu-san is almost at 100k so idk bruh

Mamster-P said:
dw bruh
i'm only speaking for my fujosquad and girls on MAL. i could care less if there was more fap material as i'm not sexually attracted to people.

but one thing you need to get in your mind:

all im saying is, if a woman wants sex, SHE CAN JUST GO GET IT *sober* ....... at least over here

which would mean she doesn't have to masturbate.....

as a human being, if i was "horny", it does not mean i want to have sex with a random stranger or a random person i find off the street.

the purpose of masturbation is not because you can't find someone, it's because you don't want to have sex with random people and still want to satisfy the urges or stress.
Feb 19, 2016 8:43 PM

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I have a feeling that gay men are not the primary target for this merchandise. Japanese girls are perverts too.
Feb 19, 2016 8:44 PM

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@Mayuka So only female otaku spent on Osomatsu-san? I thought that show is just a comedy for anyone and not targeted at a specific gender.
Feb 19, 2016 8:44 PM
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Mayuka said:


as a human being, if i was "horny", it does not mean i want to have sex with a random stranger or a random person i find off the street.

the purpose of masturbation is not because you can't find someone, it's because you don't want to have sex with random people and still want to satisfy the urges or stress.


again, YOU'RE CORRECT

you see what happens when you grow up in a culture where all people talk about is how many people they can sleep with?





again, i DID NOT say i agreed with this mentality.... trust me... the risk of STD's, the teen pregnancy rate over here, all the people who have kids they can't even take care of.... and of course all the failed relationships is not something to be proud of
Feb 19, 2016 8:44 PM

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zombie_pegasus said:

I have a feeling that gay men are not the primary target for this merchandise. Japanese girls are perverts too.
Do females even like Kirito when they have actual hotties in sports Anime?

If you want a better example, look at Ten Count or Hidoku Shinaide. Girls have weird ass kinks. And I'm proud of that.

DrGeroCreation said:
@Mayuka So only female otaku spent on Osomatsu-san? I thought that show is just a comedy for anyone and not targeted at a specific gender.
More people who bought DVDs are fans of the male seiyuu, so yes. More females are paying for it.

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again, i DID NOT say i agreed with this mentality.... trust me... the risk of STD's, the teen pregnancy rate over here and all the people who have kids they can't even take care of is not something to be proud of
That's not why I don't want to have sex with a random person. Sex is something I see as being expressed by two people who love each other. It's not just a stress reliever.
Feb 19, 2016 8:49 PM
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Mayuka said:
That's not why I don't want to have sex with a random person. Sex is something I see as being expressed by two people who love each other. It's not just a stress reliever.


you keep saying things that i agree with....




this is why i envy people who don't live in America..... why the fuck do i still live here?



like i said..... i was strictly speaking from a culture that prioritizes how many ppl you can sleep with

I DIDN'T SAY ITS A GOOD IDEA
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I think the true answer to all this salt in the thread is to just have an orgy.
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Feb 19, 2016 8:51 PM

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This is not true at all. If you look at total sales from 2015, you'd notice that UtaPri 3 had the highest overall sales, and in general, the top is very much divided in terms of demographic, you have stuff like Free securing a very high spot. And it's not like shounen isn't popular with females, take a look at Kuroko no basket, Haikyuu etc.. Even still, UtaPri sold three times as much as One Piece, not disregarding the female fanbase of OP either, but that just goes to show how popular it is.
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A: anime watchers consists of more male than female
B: Watch more varied shows i;e don't watch shows that have Ecchi/Harem etc tag on them if you want to avoid such things
C: There are some shows that are great that aren't heavenly reliant on Fanservice
Feb 19, 2016 8:58 PM

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@Mayuka Osomatsu -san having more female fans buying more dvds doesn't indicate in any way that there are as much or more female otaku than male otaku. What you are saying is also speculation .You don't know for a fact that more female fans of Osomatsu bought more dvds than male fans of the show.
Feb 19, 2016 8:58 PM
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so we can end this.... lol


ALL I WAS SAYING

is

theres way more fap material for men... cause your average man isn't fucking regularly and we generally need it a lot more

under the assumption that if you're with a woman, you aren't fapping
Feb 19, 2016 8:59 PM

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I'm watching Full Moon wo Sagashite right now and it's made for girls. The main female is attractive and so are the males.

K-On!, a seinen anime, has been re-marketed towards the shoujo demographic because of how it appeals to young girls. Cardcaptor Sakura is meant for girls but it had a considerable male audience while it was airing. Harems are meant for guys but a lot of other anime is more versatile.
Feb 19, 2016 8:59 PM

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DrGeroCreation said:
@Mayuka Osomatsu -san having more female fans buying merchandise doesn't indicate in any way that there are as much or more female otaku than male otaku. What you are saying is also speculation .You don't know for a fact that more female fans of Osomatsu bought more merchandise than male fans.
Like I said before and other people in this thread have said:

Utapri, Free!, Kekkai Sensen, and plenty of other shows sold very well and they have primarily a female audience.
Feb 19, 2016 9:03 PM

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Mayuka said:
DrGeroCreation said:
@Mayuka Osomatsu -san having more female fans buying merchandise doesn't indicate in any way that there are as much or more female otaku than male otaku. What you are saying is also speculation .You don't know for a fact that more female fans of Osomatsu bought more merchandise than male fans.
Like I said before and other people in this thread have said:

Utapri, Free!, Kekkai Sensen, and plenty of other shows sold very well and they have primarily a female audience.
Do you have stats showing there are more female fans than male fans of Osomatsu? Do you have stats showing female fans generally spend more on Osomatsu DVD's and other merchandise than male fans? If not then that is just conjecture.
Feb 19, 2016 9:04 PM

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DrGeroCreation said:
Mayuka said:
Like I said before and other people in this thread have said:

Utapri, Free!, Kekkai Sensen, and plenty of other shows sold very well and they have primarily a female audience.
Do you have stats showing there are more female fans than male fans of Osomatsu? Do you have stats showing female fans generally spend more on Osomatsu DVD's and other merchandise than male fans? If not then that is just conjecture.
Twitter, fanart, fanvideos. I actually stalk the fandom like mad. It's mostly all girls. And people who go to the seiyuu events are mostly girls. (I watch seiyuu events and see the audience)
Feb 19, 2016 9:07 PM

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Mayuka said:
DrGeroCreation said:
Do you have stats showing there are more female fans than male fans of Osomatsu? Do you have stats showing female fans generally spend more on Osomatsu DVD's and other merchandise than male fans? If not then that is just conjecture.
Twitter, fanart, fanvideos. I actually stalk the fandom like mad. It's mostly all girls. And people who go to the seiyuu events are mostly girls. (I watch seiyuu events and see the audience)
So it's just conjecture then. How do you know if there are a lot of Japanese male fans that just watch the show on tv and buy it on dvd/bluray and don't bother with fanart and going to seiyuu events?
Feb 19, 2016 9:09 PM

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Mamster-P said:
so we can end this.... lol


ALL I WAS SAYING

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theres way more fap material for men... cause your average man isn't fucking regularly and we generally need it a lot more
It takes two to tango. If the average girl has more sex than the average guy then that means there are a few guys who are having sex with a lot of girls. I think most girls are a bit more selective about who they have sex with than to all bang the same guy. I think girls just fap to manga more than anime. There are around 3x as many shounen anime as shoujo anime while there are around 2x as many shoujo manga as shounen manga.

I think this may also answer the question in the OP. Anime aim for guys while manga aim for girls. To figure out why you will need some sales statistics.
Feb 19, 2016 9:42 PM

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God damn, I regret reading through the conversations in this thread. Already getting a headache from it all.

Anyways OP, it's probably because a big part of the anime fanbase are young teenage guys, so anime studios mainly produce shows targeted towards this demographic. Hence many shows that feature female characters with ridiculously unrealistic proportions and risque emphasis on their body parts. I guess the market for girl oriented anime is not big enough to warrant as many shoujo or josei adaptations compared to shounen or seinen.

It makes me sad, knowing that some of my favourite manga will never get an anime because of its demographics :(
Feb 19, 2016 9:45 PM
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So you're looking at fanservice to see what aimed at whom? Way to narrow a view. And also, you just need to watch more shows, there's plenty of shirtless guys out there in anime, even in the anime you'd probably say is aimed at guys.

FrozenJemima said:

I tend to find that anime has butt angles to please the male audience but doesn't do anything for the female audience.

This reminded me of Anita Sarkeesian's "strategic butt coverings" video lol
Anyway, you also have to consider that some of those angles are just due to the layout of the scene rather than please anyone.

4/10 anime I come across, or start to watch, just gives boobs and butts and so I then drop it.

Avoid ecchi.
Feb 20, 2016 2:52 AM

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Because when girls do or like boyish things, it's considered cool. When boys do or like girly things, they're considered gay filth. Therefore it's more profitable to aim stuff for boys.
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Milennin said:
Because when girls do or like boyish things, it's considered cool. When boys do or like girly things, they're considered gay filth. Therefore it's more profitable to aim stuff for boys.


Ah, thanks.

This makes a lot of sense.
I personally like Shounen and Shojo, but guys can't really like Shojo because they are restricted by stereotypes.
This explained a lot, thanks :)
Feb 20, 2016 3:21 AM

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Why does porn always aim at guys.... <<< Ye, that. Think bout it.

Guys r always horny. I suppose japanese ppl r even hornier than that, so there ya go <3
Feb 20, 2016 4:06 AM
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Because there are more guys who like anime than girls. I know the struggles, I love shoujo anime but aren't that many of them. So I just read shoujo manga, because there are quite a lot of them. See the difference? Manga is more popular in Japan than anime. Manga is something that people of all ages read rather than anime which is still aimed towards the teenage boy demographic. And as you might have noticed, most anime that come out are shounen anime. Plus anime in Japan is also aimed for the otaku group. So Moe, harem, pervy, etc. That's why we also see a lot of those kinds of anime come out. It's unfortunete for girls, but you can also just read manga.
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most otaku(geek/nerd) culture are often male dominant community.

Be it MMO or trading card game.less women tend to pay attention to geek culture for whatever reason and anime is just one of those
Feb 20, 2016 4:24 AM

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Men usually have more disposable income, that's why.
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Feb 20, 2016 6:46 AM

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There are more guys watching animes than girls. When did it happen, I'm not sure. But it's a fact. Why many times they try to be be [b]only[\b] for male viewers? It's a good question. It's true, Shoujo can be seen as anime that meant only for girls, but it's not really true. They don't tend to show anything that men will watch and say "yak" except for it being to cliche for them. Shounen (and surprisingly enough, not seienes from what I saw), though try many times to attrack most genders, have sometimes the will to be for males only. I couldn't survive Rosario + Vampire as they showed all the time the part of the main heroine body I didn't care about (That's a weird to say it, but I try not to sound gross). But still, sometimes it doesn't work.


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You gotta just search better Shoujo and Josei are mostly for women. But as other said there's a lot more male watchers than female I assume p.p Still there's plenty of feminine stuff !
Feb 20, 2016 7:26 AM
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Well, that's the difference, girls have choice.

That's why you see so many sick males, if you think is hard for you to get a man, just think how hard is for a man get the girl, males can't totally rely just on sex appeal, but we have to do a really hard work...the fact that you don't rely only in your body doesn't change the fact that other women use their sex appeal... and still even if you are not using it purposely, is always working hard...becouse you know males are sick


this is pretty much what i was trying to say the whole time, at least the jist of it

the phrase "women control sex" is used for a reason lol

its a statistical fact that women have sex more often than men

WHICH MEANS, less men are able to get with women, and usually one guy with multiple women



so for the average guy, even if you want to be with a girl, chances are just naturally higher that you have to fap




thats it


as a man, don't wanna have to work that hard to get many women?...... become rich



so in conclusion.. referring to the OP... i was just saying theres probably more fap worthy material meant for men since every man on earth wants to
get laid at some point yet probably isn't on a regular basis, or maybe even at all

It's just generally easier for women, I didn't say as a women you SHOULD take advantage of that and u can't masturbate if u want


but ofc, theres NOTHING wrong with fapping, so keep fapping away
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FrozenJemima said:
I've been wondering about this for a while.
I tend to find that anime has butt angles to please the male audience but doesn't do anything for the female audience.
4/10 anime I come across, or start to watch, just gives boobs and butts and so I then drop it.
But what I'm wondering is why anime tends to go for a male audience.
If I watch an anime now it would have bikinis and stuff and I would find that normal, so why doesn't it have shirtless guys to please the female audience? (Free :3)

I'm not saying there is no anime that does this for women (Free :3) I'm just saying there's SO MUCH more butts in a casual anime than shirtless guys.

At first I thought maybe it was just the difference between Shojo and Shounen, but it's not. I saw an anime recently that wasn't shounen but was for the male audience. And I've seen some Shounen (Like Assasination Classroom) which doesn't do this.

I'm starting to feel that anime is a bit sexist.
But meh.

This isn't a complain or a rant, I'm just curious.


its not sexist per say they make whats sells and fan service shows "ecchi and harems" and Shounen sell really well cause us guys by the blue-rays/DVD's and buy the figures
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Mayuka said:
Twitter, fanart, fanvideos. I actually stalk the fandom like mad. It's mostly all girls. And people who go to the seiyuu events are mostly girls. (I watch seiyuu events and see the audience)
So it's just conjecture then. How do you know if there are a lot of Japanese male fans that just watch the show on tv and buy it on dvd/bluray and don't bother with fanart and going to seiyuu events?

Because in other fandoms that have male fans they do the exact same thing as the female otaku in Mayuka's example.
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I'm starting not to be able to stand it either, the annoying useless fanservice. I usually didnt mind it a while ago but it's become so unnecessary. It's either the annoying horny guys that watch the stupid shit or the annoying horny writers and animators that make the shit. Will there ever be an end? I actually see a show that sounds so, looks at genres, "Ecchi" I dont watch it. sometimes if it's only in one episode it's okay, but if you add it anyone who isn't horny they don't watch it.

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Because it's better this way ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Feb 20, 2016 1:57 PM

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If this is your assumption from completing only 66 anime, I recommend watching a lot more before coming to this conclusion. Apart from that, they give what the audience wants. Anime is considered nerdy, and you find mostly guys targeted for the like. I even heard people assume anime is only for guys. So that's my only guess.
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Feb 20, 2016 2:02 PM

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Uhmm, why does (almost) EVERY SINGLE ANIME MALE EVER have a six pack?
Feb 20, 2016 2:22 PM

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Because originally the majority of anime fans were males, whoever lately, females are starting to be more noticeable in anime industry so we're starting to get more anime aimed for girls, and will probably increase more in the future.

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Uhmm, why does (almost) EVERY SINGLE ANIME MALE EVER have a six pack?


for the same reason almost every anime girl are really fit and thin.

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That profile picture. XDD The best Oberstein gif I've ever seen (not that I've seen many, but...).

About the actual forum topic-
More "manservice" anime is being made these days, but I can see what you mean. Most anime are aimed at guys because (apparently) most anime fans are guys, so they try to appeal to the larger demographic more often. Though I guess other posters before me've already said that here, so... *slips out slowly*
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The male market is bigger.

and btw Gray from FT spends like half of the FT episodes shirtless lol

Tbh it's your own fault. You're not as openly talking about desiring the fan service so the creators don't bother, surely you do somewhere but the creators can't really check every forum..

Theres another thing

I don't know the male female mangaka ratio but basing off of the action aspect of stories in anime and manga, and the common speech of male audience being higher for non Asian comics I would assume that there's more male mangakas who surely don't want to go around and draw other naked male's. The female mangakas do it but it's more in mangas rather than animated.
Feb 20, 2016 7:41 PM

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Eh, I don't really mind.


There just seems to be more male anime fans.
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Another one of these threads. Eh I never really had issues with Anime as a woman the only genre I don't watch is Harem but seriously... I don't mind ecchi that is made to show off a females body, as long as it has a plot... whatever I don't care.

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Feb 20, 2016 9:04 PM

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It all comes down to what kind enthusiasts watch TV more often and are women well-known for watching lots of TV or anime? keep in mind that most Japanese graphic novelists (like Masashi Kishimoto, Rumiko Takahashi and even Osamu Tezuka) make manga for teenage boys. I got a hunch that teenage boys are the more geeky type of people or audience. Imagine how many men watch or enjoy Star Trek or Andromeda compared to women.
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Most girls look down on anime.They will only like something that involves "status" and "power".
We men tend to not be like that,we like stuff regardless of "correctness"


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Our society is still very patriarchal, so the male point of view is still dominant.

That said, the female side of things has a strong presence in anime. Magical girl and shounen Ai are targeted towards females. Even fanservice anime tends to have dominnant female characters whose female attributes aren't repressed. Femininity is often seen as cute and desirable.
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Feb 21, 2016 9:40 AM

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Probably The number of Male Otaku > The number of Female Otaku .

And studios naturally aim for the bigger market.

Another reason might be that guys are easier to please than girls. So they just do what's easier. Aka ecchi harem
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Probably The number of Male Otaku > The number of Female Otaku .

And studios naturally aim for the bigger market.

Another reason might be that guys are easier to please than girls. So they just do what's easier. Aka ecchi harem
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if the market larger, of course the amount of product will increasing. but doesn't mean there is no anime for girls complitely.
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Truth to be told, It's cause guys have more money, than women who spend it on useless shit.
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Our society is still very patriarchal, so the male point of view is still dominant.

Which society? Japan.

No.....they have a capitalist viewpoint and will pander to whatever group gives them the most money.

That happens to be MALES.

And fanservice anime make a lot of money...thus it makes simple sense why we continue to see a good amount of fanservice anime.

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I'm starting not to be able to stand it either, the annoying useless fanservice. I usually didnt mind it a while ago but it's become so unnecessary.

Then don't watch it!

How hard is that?

I personally can't stand the romcom movies Hollywood makes that are obviously targeted to women....so I don't watch them.

I rather watch my superhero movies that Marvel and DC are obviously pandering to MY demographic.

See...simple.

I'll watch something I like and not something I don't like.

Why can't anime fans do the same?

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Because the Japanese male market is much higher... of course.

^this was the ONLY response that was needed in this thread.
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Uhmm, why does (almost) EVERY SINGLE ANIME MALE EVER have a six pack?

Bcuz manservice. (:
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iirc it's because guys tend to buy shit (figurines,dvds, etc) more than girls. i think it's like this in all sort of media unfortunately..
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