| I don't get it. I watched many long running shounen anime with tons of fillers and enjoyed every single part of them. I even read the manga of some of them and thought the fillers were so well made. They are just like OVAs so if you liked the anime, you'd want to see more, right? What exactly makes you think "fillers, ugh, need to skip them" when you wouldn't have if they were extra chapters in the manga?! It's so weird! I'd think that it's because some people just wanna rush through an anime, but why rush through it when you willingly started it? Why not just drop it if it makes you bored? |
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| because they are useless and boring as fuck |
| Long series are already way to long as it is. Why waste your time watching a bunch of filler when you could watch multiple 11-25 episode series of far superior quality. |
 Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
gabrielrroiz said: They wouldn't be boring if you liked the characters and were invested enough in the anime itself.because they are useless and boring |
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| Because some fillers are terribly placed (like Bleach's that just appears randomly in the middle of a seriouc arc), and quite often those fillers are a hit or miss. |
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black1bait said: But they help you know more about the characters and what they would do in their free time for example. I would want to know that if I liked the anime. Filler arcs are also fun if you like the anime. If I didn't like it, I would drop it fillers or not.Long series are already way to long as it is. Why waste your time watching a bunch of filler when you could watch multiple 11-25 episode series of far superior quality. |
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| Most fillers start and end with the status quo preserved, every character being the same as they started out. That's why they're called fillers...they're there to fill time until the relevant stuff comes along. |
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yaoi_renee said: black1bait said: But they help you know more about the characters and what they would do in their free time for example. I would want to know that if I liked the anime. Filler arcs are also fun if you like the anime. If I didn't like it, I would drop it fillers or not.Long series are already way to long as it is. Why waste your time watching a bunch of filler when you could watch multiple 11-25 episode series of far superior quality. Whatever floats your boat I suppose but if I wanted SOL I would watch SOL and if I wanted a show with a plot then I would watch a show with a decent plot and good pacing- fillers really fuck with story pacing. |
Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
| Fillers done well are good and can sometimes not be a bad thing at all. One thing I disliked about Fairy Tail was how quickly one major even led to another. With Fairy Tail being so dramatic, two filler episodes in between the arcs is no where enough. (Especially when Luccy is always the cause of stuff). Naruto Shippuden, on the other hand, is a perfect example of how fuller can ruin a great series. If I remember correct, I heard somewhere that Naruto Shippuden only had 8 cannon episodes this whole year. The fillers aren't even interesting. Bleach's Zanpakutō Rebellion was actually a good filler arc but Naruto can't get that stuff right. |
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yaoi_renee said: Fillers are trash, but those who make the fillers are worse than trash.I don't get it. I watched many long running shounen anime with tons of fillers and enjoyed every single part of them. I even read the manga of some of them and thought the fillers were so well made. They are just like OVAs so if you liked the anime, you'd want to see more, right? What exactly makes you think "fillers, ugh, need to skip them" when you wouldn't have if they were extra chapters in the manga?! It's so weird! I'd think that it's because some people just wanna rush through an anime, but why rush through it when you willingly started it? Why not just drop it if it makes you bored? |
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| Because they don't contribute to the plot and sometimes they even contradict canon stuff. Even if some character get some development during filler,said development can be negated the moment in which the canon stuff it's back. |
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Horatio_Nelson said: yaoi_renee said: Fillers are trash, but those who make the fillers are worse than trash.I don't get it. I watched many long running shounen anime with tons of fillers and enjoyed every single part of them. I even read the manga of some of them and thought the fillers were so well made. They are just like OVAs so if you liked the anime, you'd want to see more, right? What exactly makes you think "fillers, ugh, need to skip them" when you wouldn't have if they were extra chapters in the manga?! It's so weird! I'd think that it's because some people just wanna rush through an anime, but why rush through it when you willingly started it? Why not just drop it if it makes you bored? Hahahaha - Your message must contain 30 characters except BBCode tags and quotes. |
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Acheroh said: Reasonable. On contrary though, in my opinion, I thought Fairy Tail managed a great pace to the episodes and the change of arcs, just with the good amount of episodes in between for picky people not to be bored (I'm not picky myself, I would watch 100 episodes between every arc if it had a good story to it, where I get to see more of the characters.)Fillers done well are good and can sometimes not be a bad thing at all. One thing I disliked about Fairy Tail was how quickly one major even led to another. With Fairy Tail being so dramatic, two filler episodes in between the arcs is no where enough. (Especially when Luccy is always the cause of stuff). |
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FrozenWhiskers said: Oh goodness, finally somebody I agree with! I still don't think they are bad when they make sense, not just cut through important scenes ^o^I do like fillers, they are funny and get to see our characters in a lighter athmosphere. Also helps me to relax and forget about all the shit that's going on for a little. The problem is when they put fillers in the worst possible moment, like before a final battle or something. |
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| - I probably wouldn't watch the OVAs for a long running series; there's enough episodes already - It's often times poorly placed. When the anime catches up to the manga in the middle of a fight, and suddenly there's 30 new episodes to go through before you can get back to that fight... (Bleach, I'm looking at you) it just makes you want to skip through them to get back to where you were - There seems to be little thought put into a lot of filler and it just ends up being really stupid and nonsensical So yeah, a lot of the time filler is just unenjoyable, and can't really be compared to OVAs. |
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| Much of fillers are not welcomed at all. It's all right for a few scenes but the entire episode? ...yeah not really interested. There are some exceptions that are done quite well especially if the original author is involved but those are the rare ones I've come across. The bad thing on fillers too is they can introduce elements that contradict the original storyline or introduce plot holes. For some anime's where I don't know the source material I can sometimes feel a filler is being done and I start to lose focus on the anime. This has happened to me several times. I agree with leonstone, the many I seen it is like they don't even try especially if it's a long episode count. I just can't comprehend it how can they not know about the source material being involved so long and fail on fillers? It's bad enough watching bad adaptions but bad fillers too? Come on now... |
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yaoi_renee said: gabrielrroiz said: They wouldn't be boring if you liked the characters and were invested enough in the anime itself.because they are useless and boring Too bad most of the time they deviate from the main style, and look dumb. There ARE good fillers, but most of them are pretty bad. IMO at least. |
Seiya0890 said: But its still disgusting from my point of view, and from the word's point of view, therefore its disgusting. Wise words. |
| Becausese fillers have nothing to do with the main story and ruin the pacing of the anime,. |
JumpinJC said: It's not just a single filler episode, that episode belongs to a whole filler arc (Key of the starry sky). I'm watching it right now too ;pJust recently watched episode 126 of Fairy Tail, a filler episode which involved the Butt Jiggle Gang, and it's one of the worst and disgusting episodes of anime I've seen, let alone the worst episode of Fairy Tail. They just always feel like a waste of time because they're usually not as good as canon episodes, and they're sometimes stupid and just not fun to watch. I hear that Sailor Moon (1992)'s fillers are worth watching, though (and supposedly make the overall show better). The other arcs are better, but I still enjoy this one. |
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| Filler episodes cannot change or contradict anything that is canon (or rather schould not). So, fillers have no influence on the overall show and the story returns at the end to where it was before the fillers. This leads to most of them being boring and/or of bad quality and often the additional characterization or world building is contradicted throug the canon content later on. Long story short, they are a waste of time. |
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| I only understand the hate when it's for something ongoing. You can just skip it otherwise. Though I guess everything must of been ongoing at some point, so it's probably just an ever lasting bias a lot people are gonna have that were invested in the plot of certain shows. /shrug Some fillers can be good. |
| You don't want to wait a week to get a filler episode of your chinese cartoon. |
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Tylaen said: Most fillers start and end with the status quo preserved, every character being the same as they started out. That's why they're called fillers...they're there to fill time until the relevant stuff comes along. This.... #fuckthecharacterlimit. |
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| Most filler offers little to no development towards the character and the storyline while creating it still takes a considerable amount of money and effort to make. Why waste something that could be used to polished the main storyline production on something that mostly not even relevant to the story. That's the reason why most people hate filler. But in fact for a long running series adapted from ongoing manga, a filler is absolute necessary to avoid catching up to manga. And they can't take hiatus, there's a contract between the TV Station, that's why they make filler to fulfill those contract. |
tr1ckst3rDec 29, 2015 4:06 PM
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| I blame naruto. Ruining "anime original" name and making it into "filler". |
ichii_1Dec 29, 2015 4:16 PM
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| People complain all they want about the TV series fillers but rarely do you see complained about a movie or special that's non-canon or doesn't affect the main series. I honestly think it's more because it simply doesn't follow the manga, as simple as that. These people want perfect adaptions, no side stories, get to the point, etc. For starters, anime only watchers wouldn't even know if something was or wasn't a filler, only way would be actually looking it up or people who've read/played the sourcec posting crap in the comments. |
Paul said: This is exactly what I was getting at. Thank you.People complain all they want about the TV series fillers but rarely do you see complained about a movie or special that's non-canon or doesn't affect the main series. I honestly think it's more because it simply doesn't follow the manga, as simple as that. These people want perfect adaptions, no side stories, get to the point, etc. For starters, anime only watchers wouldn't even know if something was or wasn't a filler, only way would be actually looking it up or people who've read/played the sourcec posting crap in the comments. |
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| filler in here is original anime material, or something that don't contribute to plot in general? i dislike the first part usually, except it have to do and executed well (which is rarely case). for second part, as long as it entertaining, i don't have any problem. |
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Paul said: Fillers come out at the expense of the canon material while Movie/Special is in completely different format that as far as I know, never hindering the flow of the canon material in the TV Series.People complain all they want about the TV series fillers but rarely do you see complained about a movie or special that's non-canon or doesn't affect the main series. I honestly think it's more because it simply doesn't follow the manga, as simple as that. These people want perfect adaptions, no side stories, get to the point, etc. For starters, anime only watchers wouldn't even know if something was or wasn't a filler, only way would be actually looking it up or people who've read/played the sourcec posting crap in the comments. |
tr1ckst3rDec 29, 2015 4:23 PM
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| because they're boring 30 30 30 characters?? |
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Paul said: People complain all they want about the TV series fillers but rarely do you see complained about a movie or special that's non-canon or doesn't affect the main series. I honestly think it's more because it simply doesn't follow the manga, as simple as that. These people want perfect adaptions, no side stories, get to the point, etc. For starters, anime only watchers wouldn't even know if something was or wasn't a filler, only way would be actually looking it up or people who've read/played the sourcec posting crap in the comments. It's pretty obvious which episodes are fillers in long running anime. this is a pretty baseless assumption. |
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Paul said: People complain all they want about the TV series fillers but rarely do you see complained about a movie or special that's non-canon or doesn't affect the main series. I honestly think it's more because it simply doesn't follow the manga, as simple as that. These people want perfect adaptions, no side stories, get to the point, etc. For starters, anime only watchers wouldn't even know if something was or wasn't a filler, only way would be actually looking it up or people who've read/played the sourcec posting crap in the comments. OVAs, specials and Movies are more like an optional way for the viewer to know more and "invest the characters" but fillers in TV aren't, I would like you to take this in consideration I have to agree tho, many people complain about fillers, they might be enjoyable, but not every filler is enjoyable and/or really investing something valuable in the characters or the story, so I gotta say it depends on the main tv series, how good is the filler and how much does it add to our view of the characters, story etc .. |
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| Just a little is alright ... but the naruto-level of filler is a big no. |
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| When said fillers make up more than 40% of the show, people have a right to give a damn about them. |
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yaoi_renee said: I don't get it. I watched many long running shounen anime with tons of fillers and enjoyed every single part of them. I even read the manga of some of them and thought the fillers were so well made. They are just like OVAs so if you liked the anime, you'd want to see more, right? What exactly makes you think "fillers, ugh, need to skip them" when you wouldn't have if they were extra chapters in the manga?! It's so weird! You're being a bit closeminded. What exactly makes you think "fillers, ugh, need to skip them" when you wouldn't have if they were extra chapters in the manga?! It's so weird! Did you ever stop to think and realize that manga "fillers" don't ever last more than a few chapters, if that. Compared to, say Naruto shitpooden, which had 8 canon episodes this year. 44/52(?) episodes were filler. Nobody is going to drop a manga with hundreds of chapters, over 1 or 2 fillers here and there. That's a ridiculous comparison. I'd think that it's because some people just wanna rush through an anime, but why rush through it when you willingly started it? Why not just drop it if it makes you bored? This statement makes zero sense. Are you asking people not to judge an anime because of its fillers? If fillers impact a person's enjoyment in watching a series, they have all the right to judge and dislike the fillers. Maybe they don't drop it, because they still enjoy the actual show outside of the fillers? |
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| Honestly I don't mind the odd filler, they can be enjoyable. Although, anime like Bleach have filler ARCS in the middle of a fight scene... Like wtf. |
shuryukan said: I have to disagree. I never noticed the fillers from Fairy Tail, Gintama, D. Gray-man and Hunter x Hunter.It's pretty obvious which episodes are fillers in long running anime. this is a pretty baseless assumption. I reread the manga for Fairy Tail and DGM but also still didn't find much difference in the main story. |
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yaoi_renee said: shuryukan said: I have to disagree. I never noticed the fillers from Fairy Tail, Gintama, D. Gray-man and Hunter x Hunter.It's pretty obvious which episodes are fillers in long running anime. this is a pretty baseless assumption. I reread the manga for Fairy Tail and DGM but also still didn't find much difference in the main story. Fairy tail - if you can't tell which episodes are filler, I really don't know what to say lol. That's just your lack of perception. Gintama - is for the most part sol comedy. Why you even brought gintama up is questionable. Not to mention Gintama doesn't even have that many actual filler episodes to begin with. Hunter x hunter - you do realize there are like 2 filler episodes in the ENTIRETY of the series right? 2/148. Ofc you wouldn't notice. haven't wacthed DGM. |
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shuryukan said: I never watched Naruto, but I would probably enjoy it having not read the manga. What if it was an original source-less series?! Nobody would even bother with complaining because those episodes would become canon as well. Maybe I'm being "closed minded" but as I have previously stated, if I liked an anime, I would enjoy it filler or not.Did you ever stop to think and realize that manga "fillers" don't ever last more than a few chapters, if that. Compared to, say Naruto shitpooden, which had 8 canon episodes this year. 44/52(?) episodes were filler. Nobody is going to drop a manga with hundreds of chapters, over 1 or 2 fillers here and there. That's a ridiculous comparison. shuryukan said: Rushing through an anime is the worst thing a person can do to himself. It makes them dislike it; and that's where I was getting at. I'm not going to force people to like fillers, but they shouldn't bash an anime for having a lot of them, as long as they make sense which most of them do.This statement makes zero sense. Are you asking people not to judge an anime because of its fillers? If fillers impact a person's enjoyment in watching a series, they have all the right to judge and dislike the fillers. Maybe they don't drop it, because they still enjoy the actual show outside of the fillers? |
reiyniiDec 29, 2015 4:41 PM
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Tylaen said: ^ the problem is not canon vs original. The problem is that they don't have any nature of progressionMost fillers start and end with the status quo preserved, every character being the same as they started out. That's why they're called fillers...they're there to fill time until the relevant stuff comes along. |
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shuryukan said: Paul said: People complain all they want about the TV series fillers but rarely do you see complained about a movie or special that's non-canon or doesn't affect the main series. I honestly think it's more because it simply doesn't follow the manga, as simple as that. These people want perfect adaptions, no side stories, get to the point, etc. For starters, anime only watchers wouldn't even know if something was or wasn't a filler, only way would be actually looking it up or people who've read/played the sourcec posting crap in the comments. It's pretty obvious which episodes are fillers in long running anime. this is a pretty baseless assumption. I'm sure it would be for more experienced viewers with the mentality of "oh, this is a long going series, it's gonna have fillers, I better look out for them" versus the more casual viewers who simply just watch whats in front of them. Not all fillers are long either, One Piece for example has several small filler episodes scattered throughout the entire series I'm sure even experienced viewers wouldn't notice unless they've read the manga and it's not like fillers are in long running anime only. And don't get me wrong, it's not like I'm on the side of fillers, it's just I find people to look down a series too often because of fillers. Skip them if they're a such bother. |
PaulDec 29, 2015 4:46 PM
JD2411 said: shuryukan said: I didn't know they were fillers when I first watched FT either...Fairy tail - if you can't tell which episodes are filler, I really don't know what to say lol. That's just your lack of perception. DGM has really good fillers though. I can vouch for that. You didn't know eps 125-150 and ~205-225 were fillers? Are you guys trolling me now, or were you guys oblivious to the random changes in storyline and overall decrease in quality of production? |
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