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Dec 21, 2015 3:56 PM

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Why would Silver be Ultear's dad?
Silver-Gray there's a connection in colors and relevant status
Ultear herself is considered dead and has no use to the plot/is a secondary character.

Try thinking before you post instead of letting your bias get in the way.

The only retarded vendetta one has over the other is Natsu's forced sloppy mess with Acnologia, when Igneel never told him to avenge him but to live life. Natsu is just fixated in being a stupid fool and the whole was to give him relevancy anyway.
Funny how a single user's *cough dark cough*'s claims above can contradict his own claims.

Gray's vendetta against END is genuine and reasonable at best.



miskos3 said:
Darklight0303 said:


No because until this arc where all of a sudden random zombie dad comes out of the blue, Gray already was settled on the fact that his dad was dead.

Natsu had no reason to believe igneel was dead so he believed he'd find him someday. Key difference. A very key difference that shows how last minute Gray's sudden subplot was. Silver should have been Ultear's dad.
I hate to break it to you, but the manga author has stated in one of the volume afterwords that he created Silver as a character related to Gray - and meant to fight Gray - from the very beginning. So no, it wasn't a last minute plot. It was intended from the start.

Also, I think that believing your dad is dead and suddenly seeing him alive and kicking (seemingly) just to lose him again will probably have some effect on you too.
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"We didn't show ourselves because we wanted to defeat our negative legacy."
Yeah man, I mean, it's not like you had that opportunity 7 years ago, right?


I rate how the deuteragonist's whole life's purpose was achieved without his own efforts. Top tier writing.
They didnt show themselves because they were creating antibodies so that dragon slayers dont turn into dragons.


Exactly not to mention it was damn obvious that the even color Gray is very much related to Silver, hence why Gray's dad was named Silver.

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I didn't find the episode all that sad tbh. Igneel's death was rushed, and it seemed quite forced to bring the feels in as it didn't feel natural. Meh, enjoyed Natsu's anguish tho
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Dec 22, 2015 1:14 AM

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miskos3 said:
ziggy_Z said:
"We didn't show ourselves because we wanted to defeat our negative legacy."
Yeah man, I mean, it's not like you had that opportunity 7 years ago, right?


I rate how the deuteragonist's whole life's purpose was achieved without his own efforts. Top tier writing.
They didnt show themselves because they were creating antibodies so that dragon slayers dont turn into dragons.
Yeah, because the dragons knew they would survive the onslaught of Acnologia? So aside from going into the future, they have the ability to foresee the future?
Dec 22, 2015 2:06 AM

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The saddesst ep in a long time..
Which chapter was this dead?
This was Chapter 413 and 414
Dec 23, 2015 1:28 AM
Ceasefire NOW

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Why didn't the dragons come out to fight Acnologia? or stop Face before it released its powers instead of the duration of the release?
Dec 23, 2015 9:08 AM

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First half felt dragged. 2nd half was good, esp. the flashback were well-done.
Dec 23, 2015 8:15 PM

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i'm already read manga version, but anime has all the way better for this ep
Dec 23, 2015 8:28 PM

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I think I remember it being a bit more feel-sy in the manga.

Anyway


Dec 28, 2015 8:38 PM

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Jesus! Dat 1st half was a drag. Recap and 5 minutes of dragons destroying Face when it took like 1 page in the manga. Thanks A-1.

Damn. Mard Geer went poof with just a snap.

Zeref trolling again.

Igneel: "When you've been asleep as long as I've been, shit happens." GOAT line of the episode.

Damn. When Igneel got blown up and the scene changed to Natsu with his mouth and eyes shaking, I knew it was going to be sad. Natsu's 1st time really experiencing loss.

RIP Igneel.
RobDec 28, 2015 8:42 PM
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Dec 31, 2015 6:53 PM

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Poor Natsu.

Although. The animation was poorly done and a little confusing on how Igneel got such a bad wound, which the wound itself looked a little bizarre. Kind of lessened the impact for me.
Jan 1, 2016 8:52 AM
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this didn't just happen
no please
this is too sad..
someone help
rip igneel... the flashbacks made it even more sadder and natsu's reaction
Jan 27, 2016 10:56 PM

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I CRIED IN THIS EPISODE
Feb 6, 2016 3:36 PM

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Magic is saved in Earthland, but ahhh man why did they have to do that to Igneel RIGHT after bringing him back? Way to play with my emotions, Fairy Tail T.T

I hope the other dragons are going to fare ok in the next few episodes...
Mar 4, 2016 8:50 AM

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R.I.P. Ingeel, poor Natsu.

I wonder if his dad's loss is going to make him stronger. It was also nice to see the dragons destroying face.

To me, this was the most enjoyable arc in the whole anime. Loved it.
Apr 13, 2016 11:02 AM

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Damn Igneel died ;_;
May 6, 2016 6:02 PM

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seriously i lost it when i saw ichiya in his usual pose standing there while everyone's concerned about world destruction.
Jun 7, 2016 11:39 AM

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Brutal... That's rough man
Sep 18, 2016 10:45 PM
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Dramatic episode, Igneel death!!!! :(
Sep 20, 2016 8:29 AM

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Beginning was half slow but with stopping Face again. more info why the Dragons was inside them, (to make sure they do not transform into a dragon)
Acnologia rises again, and Igneel..... ;-; FUUUUUUUUUUCK!!
Kosu!! for 2 second i thought.... but no he got his damn side ripped off...

Final ending fight indeed...
cause MAL is doing there job for once.
Jun 25, 2017 8:54 PM

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Damn why would they kill off Igneel when they only just reunited :| the whole point of Natsu's journey and pretty much this anime was to find Igneel... feels a bit pointless now that he's been killed off :/

They barely kill any characters in this anime, but why would they do it for this one :|

Quite a shame to be honest, but well it was a touching moment either way. Let's see what's next.
Nov 22, 2017 11:05 AM

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RIP......................
Jan 3, 2018 10:57 AM

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It was so nice to see all the dragons!
Zeref!!!
Sad Igneel is dead...
Feb 4, 2018 10:41 AM

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Wtf curse you Acnologia curse for eternity T-T
Rest In Peace Igneel ;-;
Mar 1, 2018 12:48 AM
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Damn this ep fuck up me again!
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emotion and pain within !
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fuuck... i'm fuck up! may cry
Mar 8, 2018 4:17 AM

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that feels, I almost cried.
why it has to be Igneel, damn it.
they just reunited.
Apr 3, 2018 8:57 PM

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The last few episodes have had too many flashbacks and reoccurring scenes, granted I understand the creators are showing us that all of these battles are taking place at the same time, but some trimming to the repeated scenes should've been done

Interesting that both Natsu & Gray have met their dads after all these years, and unfortunately also witnessed their fathers deaths. I wish the other dragons could've come in and helped save Igneel ugh. Hopefully this gives the boys closure... and I'm hoping that Natsu will power up even more like Gray did

Man, about 12 episodes left...
Apr 23, 2018 8:00 AM

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Igneel's death is probably one of the saddest deaths I've watched. Those sudden flashbacks while Igneel's falling down, god damn it was too much I cried.
Jan 11, 2019 8:01 PM
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Seriously Igneel has to die? FFS, he just got back. Igneel really shouldn’t have been fighting 1v1 anyway there’s 3 other dragons. Fucking Achonolgia. I liked the part where Igneel is like, “the faces are all gone, END is not coming back, why don’t you just leave them alone?!.” Achnologia responds, “like I give a shit about Zeref’s demons.” Or this might have been last episode. Whatever.
Mar 9, 2019 10:43 AM

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holy fuck... :(
The goalpost driving this entire anime was Natsu finding Igneel, now he does and he gets murdered shortly after... wtf man, wtf. Fairy Tail almost never kills important characters but it seems to have no problems with dragons. man, wtf.

I wanna know more about the relationship between Zeref and Acnologia. I was under the impression Zeref was somehow responsible for Acnologia and they had something of a symbiotic relationship, but now I dunno where I got that idea from... been so many infodumps and they're always so far apart it's hard to keep track of the lore. They, at any rate, don't seem to be on friendly terms.



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Aug 29, 2020 1:26 PM

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Nooo... Igneel T_T you were only properly introduced a few episodes ago as well T_T
Jul 16, 2022 1:41 PM

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Really didn't expect them to kill Igneel off and that too when it isn't even any long when we for the first time saw him. Seriously it feels like now we really are close to the conclusion of this journey.

Dragons always being inside of these dragon slayers seem like an explanation I can convince myself with but then again the whole point of searching these dragons feel a bit wasteful now.
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