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Forgetfulness said: fst said: Was the whole wish thingie with the shooting star-looking things in the VN? ya don't say.... Cause somehow I don't remember that at all lol I would hope you don't, since it's not in the VN. |
| I thought the episode itself was handled very well in terms of pacing. |
 Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
| Well, it was kinda ok, at least they can do action when they are horrible with motivations. That is apart from Assassin who was made look to be defeated too easily. Effects and CG very pretty cool but it's obvious they are dragging the ending right now because they are almost out of content. UBW next time it seems. And the last ep will be probably aftermath mostly. Anyone knows if they are planning one-hour finale? |
| I think the episode was quite good, though I didn't quite catch on to how Saber won that fight, too bad Gilgamesh just went ahead and used EA without saying something epic like he did in F/Z. |
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Snappynator said: I think the episode was quite good, though I didn't quite catch on to how Saber won that fight, too bad Gilgamesh just went ahead and used EA without saying something epic like he did in F/Z. When they where holding their swords against each other, assassin's blade was notched/cracked. This made it so that there was a tiny gap in his Tsubame gaeshi that saber (being the badass she is) could exploit. |
Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
Insertanamehere said: Forgetfulness said: Was the whole wish thingie with the shooting star-looking things in the VN? Cause somehow I don't remember that at all lol I would hope you don't, since it's not in the VN. So like... how high do you have to be for it to be in the VN? |
| I won't even bother with the plot conveniences but this episode was plain bad. Not even the fights are exciting anymore. The power levels are so inconsistent. Suddenly shirou is able to copy all those noble phantasms of Gilgamesh? Also why is shinji still alive and what the fuck was that arm? The_Deceiver said: "Now awaken Ea, the stage worthy of you has been set". I want F/Z awesomeness back! ^ |
black1blade said: Snappynator said: I think the episode was quite good, though I didn't quite catch on to how Saber won that fight, too bad Gilgamesh just went ahead and used EA without saying something epic like he did in F/Z. When they where holding their swords against each other, assassin's blade was notched/cracked. This made it so that there was a tiny gap in his Tsubame gaeshi that saber (being the badass she is) could exploit. yes somebody gets it, this was the decisive factor! shooting star thingy wasn't in VN last time I checked |
 All credit goes to Sacred. |
fst said: Insertanamehere said: I would hope you don't, since it's not in the VN. So like... how high do you have to be for it to be in the VN? About as high as Miura when he was directing this |
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FireEmblemIke24 said: black1blade said: When they where holding their swords against each other, assassin's blade was notched/cracked. This made it so that there was a tiny gap in his Tsubame gaeshi that saber (being the badass she is) could exploit. yes somebody gets it, this was the decisive factor! shooting star thingy wasn't in VN last time I checked I read the VN -_- |
Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
Lollo36 said: fst said: So like... how high do you have to be for it to be in the VN? About as high as Miura when he was directing this that Kara no Kyoukai movie 6 was his doing, I've lost all faith since then |
All credit goes to Sacred. |
Z4k said: I won't even bother with the plot conveniences but this episode was plain bad. Not even the fights are exciting anymore. The power levels are so inconsistent. Suddenly shirou is able to copy all those noble phantasms of Gilgamesh? Also why is shinji still alive and what the fuck was that arm? The_Deceiver said: "Now awaken Ea, the stage worthy of you has been set". I want F/Z awesomeness back! ^ It's not suddenly. He was doing it against archer before. Also he is getting rin's mana, allowing him to trace multiple swords at once. |
Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
black1blade said: FireEmblemIke24 said: yes somebody gets it, this was the decisive factor! shooting star thingy wasn't in VN last time I checked I read the VN -_- I just said what you said was true bruh ;p why mad? |
All credit goes to Sacred. |
FireEmblemIke24 said: Lollo36 said: About as high as Miura when he was directing this that Kara no Kyoukai movie 6 was his doing, I've lost all faith since then Well he did fate/zero episode 15 and 19 (2 of the best imo). Also vita OPs which where amazing. Finally, he did episode 0 which was arguably the best episode of UBW. |
Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
Z4k said: The power levels are so inconsistent. Suddenly shirou is able to copy all those noble phantasms of Gilgamesh? Why not? Archer already said he can copy every weapon he saw the original of right? Back when Shirou and Archer fought, Shirou was acquiring Archers skills every time their swords clashed, its only natural for Shirou to display some of Archers skills. He also has Rins mana to help him out. |
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FireEmblemIke24 said: black1blade said: I read the VN -_- I just said what you said was true bruh ;p why mad? I'm not mad I was just thinking that maybe you got your hopes up than an anime only got it XD. |
Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
black1blade said: Z4k said: I won't even bother with the plot conveniences but this episode was plain bad. Not even the fights are exciting anymore. The power levels are so inconsistent. Suddenly shirou is able to copy all those noble phantasms of Gilgamesh? Also why is shinji still alive and what the fuck was that arm? ^ It's not suddenly. He was doing it against archer before. Also he is getting rin's mana, allowing him to trace multiple swords at once. IIRC each of those swords are noble phantasms not just regular swords and was it ever explained how many he can copy? Is there even any limit? |
black1blade said: FireEmblemIke24 said: that Kara no Kyoukai movie 6 was his doing, I've lost all faith since then Well he did fate/zero episode 15 and 19 (2 of the best imo). Also vita OPs which where amazing. Finally, he did episode 0 which was arguably the best episode of UBW. OK I'll admit those vita openings were sick especially HF |
All credit goes to Sacred. |
| I love how, at the start of the episode, Shirou says that NOW he can project 10-20 weapons, while he probably projected just as many times against Archer. Inb4 UBW explaination from VN. |
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Z4k said: black1blade said: It's not suddenly. He was doing it against archer before. Also he is getting rin's mana, allowing him to trace multiple swords at once. IIRC each of those swords are noble phantasms not just regular swords and was it ever explained how many he can copy? Is there even any limit? Like Kanshou and Bakuya, he copied from archer. |
Raziel1991 said: Z4k said: The power levels are so inconsistent. Suddenly shirou is able to copy all those noble phantasms of Gilgamesh? Why not? Archer already said he can copy every weapon he saw the original of right? Back when Shirou and Archer fought, Shirou was acquiring Archers skills every time their swords clashed, its only natural for Shirou to display some of Archers skills. He also has Rins mana to help him out. It doesn't explain how he could copy gilgamesh's weapons all at once. |
Z4k said: black1blade said: It's not suddenly. He was doing it against archer before. Also he is getting rin's mana, allowing him to trace multiple swords at once. IIRC each of those swords are noble phantasms not just regular swords and was it ever explained how many he can copy? Is there even any limit? Why does it matter if they are noble phantasms? K&B are C-rank noble phantasms I'm pretty sure. |
Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
Z4k said: Is there even any limit? Aslong as he has mana. Which he is getting from Rin btw. It doesn't explain how he could copy gilgamesh's weapons all at once. He can't copy EA. He can pretty much copy any Sword, even NPs. EA and the like he can't copy. |
| lol that's really mean, I can't believe they remade history turning Sasaki Kojirou into just a fictional character. He actually existed in real life and died in his duel with Miyamoto Musashi. |
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Z4k said: Raziel1991 said: Why not? Archer already said he can copy every weapon he saw the original of right? Back when Shirou and Archer fought, Shirou was acquiring Archers skills every time their swords clashed, its only natural for Shirou to display some of Archers skills. He also has Rins mana to help him out. It doesn't explain how he could copy gilgamesh's weapons all at once. Possibly explained next EP. |
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Z4k said: Raziel1991 said: Why not? Archer already said he can copy every weapon he saw the original of right? Back when Shirou and Archer fought, Shirou was acquiring Archers skills every time their swords clashed, its only natural for Shirou to display some of Archers skills. He also has Rins mana to help him out. It doesn't explain how he could copy gilgamesh's weapons all at once. He copied the 10 (?) Archer's sword in episode 18, there was too green light on them. But he used them one by one in his hand this time and this was before he gained more archer's memories and before Rin's mana. |
YggdrasilTM said: Lollo36 said: I love how, at the start of the episode, Shirou says that NOW he can project 10-20 weapons, while he probably projected just as many times against Archer. Inb4 UBW explaination from VN. ? Against Archer he projected 6 times max. That's a fail on my part, then, LOL. |
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Shrimperor said: Z4k said: Is there even any limit? Aslong as he has mana. Which he is getting from Rin btw. It doesn't explain how he could copy gilgamesh's weapons all at once. He can't copy EA. He can pretty much copy any Sword, even NPs. EA and the like he can't copy. That includes excalibur right? ;) |
Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
fst said: dear god what the fuck did I just watch Greatest anime of 2015 |
black1blade said: Shrimperor said: Aslong as he has mana. Which he is getting from Rin btw. He can't copy EA. He can pretty much copy any Sword, even NPs. EA and the like he can't copy. That includes excalibur right? ;) Yeah. |
pkKodama said: lol that's really mean, I can't believe they remade history turning Sasaki Kojirou into just a fictional character. He actually existed in real life and died in his duel with Miyamoto Musashi. We don't know if that is true. The idea in fate is that the person who was named Sasaki Koijirou and the guy who used the Nodachi (I forget the name) where different. If the sword the real Koijirou used had no renowned, then the heroic spirit couldn't exist either as there would be nothing extraordinary about his existence. |
Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
black1blade said: Shrimperor said: Aslong as he has mana. Which he is getting from Rin btw. He can't copy EA. He can pretty much copy any Sword, even NPs. EA and the like he can't copy. That includes excalibur right? ;) He can copy Excalibur but actually using it will kill him. |
VsegdaZdec7 said: black1blade said: That includes excalibur right? ;) He can copy Excalibur but actually using it will kill him. |
Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
FanEu said: Well the anime adaption was pretty bad but the manga is great lolno Toyko Ghouls anime is bad simply because the source material is bad. |
black1blade said: Shrimperor said: Aslong as he has mana. Which he is getting from Rin btw. He can't copy EA. He can pretty much copy any Sword, even NPs. EA and the like he can't copy. That includes excalibur right? ;) Yes until Nasu retconned it. |
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GradationAir said: FanEu said: Well the anime adaption was pretty bad but the manga is great lol Toyko Ghouls anime is bad simply because the source material is bad. That's exactly what some people say about fate. The people who say this is shit because it is different from zero are wrong. Stay night was never meant to be like zero. |
Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
black1blade said: VsegdaZdec7 said: He can copy Excalibur but actually using it will kill him. |
pkKodama said: Actually, it is precisely because of history that they went with this route, as is is still uncertain if Sasaki Kojirou is real, or if his final duel with Musashi is real or if it really happened the way it supposedly did (with the boat oar and all). There is a lot of conflicting documents on him, but one of the most important elements is the lack of documentation, namely by Musashi himself. The man wrote about much of his life, yet he never mentioned Kojirou at all. lol that's really mean, I can't believe they remade history turning Sasaki Kojirou into just a fictional character. He actually existed in real life and died in his duel with Miyamoto Musashi. The interpretation in FSN is that this Sasaki Kojirou is a composite of several figures, some guy named Kojirou Sasaki, someone who weilded his famous longsword Monohoshizao, and a nameless swordsman with the legendary skill Tsubame Gaeshi associated with the character of Kojirou, the last of which is Fake Assassin's true self. I guess it was probably meant to resonate with Archer also being fameless despite his accomplishments, though they didn't do anything with it in the end. |
VsegdaZdec7 said: black1blade said: Nope. |
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black1blade said: Snappynator said: I think the episode was quite good, though I didn't quite catch on to how Saber won that fight, too bad Gilgamesh just went ahead and used EA without saying something epic like he did in F/Z. When they where holding their swords against each other, assassin's blade was notched/cracked. This made it so that there was a tiny gap in his Tsubame gaeshi that saber (being the badass she is) could exploit. Oh I see, didn't notice that. I'm guessing that part is far more obvious in the VN than in the anime? |
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| That was a massive arm! |
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| Less talking, more fighting would benefit this show greatly. Or at least if you're going to have long conversations, do it over a cup of tea and biscuits, and not in the middle of combat. |
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FanEu said: black1blade said: That's exactly what some people say about fate. The people who say this is shit because it is different from zero are wrong. Stay night was never meant to be like zero. Yeah but its just very underwhelming if you watch it after F/Z because secondaryfags thinks fate franchise is about the battles and deathgame and that was never the mainpoint of the franchise its about the characters and ideals |
black1blade said: pkKodama said: lol that's really mean, I can't believe they remade history turning Sasaki Kojirou into just a fictional character. He actually existed in real life and died in his duel with Miyamoto Musashi. We don't know if that is true. The idea in fate is that the person who was named Sasaki Koijirou and the guy who used the Nodachi (I forget the name) where different. If the sword the real Koijirou used had no renowned, then the heroic spirit couldn't exist either as there would be nothing extraordinary about his existence. Well, if the existence of a man who died in 1612 is so doubtful, I fail to see what makes Gilgamesh and even Hercules(seriously?) genuine. I know this is just a fictional work but still, they could have had more criativity if they wanted to give his character more depth while still being coherent... |
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Forgetfulness said: FanEu said: Maybe because that's not how you're supposed to go through the Fate/ series.Yeah but its just very underwhelming if you watch it after F/Z Woah It's still underwhelming by comparison. |
GradationAir said: FanEu said: Well the anime adaption was pretty bad but the manga is great lolno Toyko Ghouls anime is bad simply because the source material is bad. I see. Then the reason F/SN anime is trash simply because the source material is bad. Damn that explains everything. |
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