What is the point of debate/arguing online?

thereisonlyone said:
Immahnoob watch this
Put it in me
Put it in they
^ y'see how that doesn't work - for that very reason (in which) was chosen to show that arguments are nothing more than individuals self-serving themselves

I'm not trying to serve a point - I'm teaching you that definitions weren't chosen at random (every word was chosen & placed in order to set a specific meaning
If the dictionary you use isn't providing information suitable for helping you understand (you may want to switch)
Certainly, synonyms are the same but they all have minor differences. It's like calling the balcony at cheap hotel, a mezzanine.

Your, Welcome

yaiba064 said:


It doesn't need to if it's magic.

damastah said:

Such is the path for a hero of justice.

chat77 said:



you are still trying to derail it into FSN thread.Don't lose hope one day you will succeed.

Immahnoob said:
Just take the merriam definition and you're done.
Debate:
": a discussion between people in which they express different opinions about something"

Argument:
": a discussion in which people express different opinions about something"

highspot said:


I think the difference lies not in the technical definition, but how people use the words. Yes, an argument and a debate can be the same thing, and arguments are used in debates, but people often use the words differently.

For example, if two people are screaming at each other over some sort of disagreement, people would be more likely to say they are arguing about something rather than debating.

masterofgo said:
There's a lot of things you can learn online if you talk to the right people. If you talk with a bunch of people who don't really know much or haven't devoted themselves to learning about the topic, then yeah it's probably not going to be fruitful.

On the other hand, there are a variety of informed users on every community and if you find the right group of people for you, you're bound to learn something.

yaiba064 said:
Learning by arguing? What kind of sorcery is this?

It can happen, but the chance is small. Once you're actively engaged in arguing, your mind shuts to any reasoning that doesn't form part of or flow well with your own, if a sensible persons was doing the arguing, he would realise, not at that moment, but only later, when he re read all what had been said, that he might actually had some flaws.

masterofgo said:
I disagree. I think as long as you keep an open mind you stand to learn a lot of different things. They may not be super substantive or deep or life changing, but I don't think anyone expects that almost anywhere save for the most prestigious of universities, intellectual circles, and parties for the intelligentsia.

Standard discourse can be revealing in more ways than one. I don't actively participate/engage in it, but I think there's more value than people give it credit for.

yaiba064 said:
Michel Foucault, The Discourse on Language, 1972, appendix to Archaeology to Knowledge.

Immahnoob said:
Argument can do that as well though.

masterofgo said:
A lot of my political opinions and thoughts on anime and manga and other things have been tested and changed and shaped by the arguments I have with other people. I certainly think you're right.

Wyzdm said:

Only if you're arguing with a fucking retard or you don't know how to make a convincing argument

yaiba064 said:


You can look at any legal arguments between positivism and realism. There is my proof. It is hard to change one's opinion, that's all there is.

Immahnoob said:
[That's not my issue.

1unarsage said:
"What is the point of debate/arguing online?"
Nobody listens so.
To waste time and laugh at the idiots.

YorKeY said:
MOST of the time, you don't learn ANYTHING in arguments, ESPECIALLY on the internet, so fuck everyone saying that "it will broaden their horizons" no, just no.

Immahnoob said:
Nothing in life has a point.

So claiming that debating has no point is a moot point.

7starkiller99 said:
Sureeee.

highspot said:

Then what is your issue? You said the words are synonyms, I gave explanations why they are used differently. How have I missed the issue?

Kyonin said:
That statement of yours definitely has a point I dare say. Now I have a complicated feeling.

thereisonlyone said:
Immahnoob watch this
Put it in me

Aeldrian said:
no other reason except for the glory of yuetsu because f*** satan and the others.

Immahnoob said:
I never knew this would be relevant.

damastah said:

I'm gonna hafta tell Steve and Worm to patent our images soon lol

Immahnoob said:
His face, man. His face is priceless.

thereisonlyone said:
just wow that IMG is perfect (you people are good for some laughs now and then)
-much appreciated-

Immahnoob said:
That's not my issue.

Autocrat said:


It's just a matter of having different connotations. They denote the same thing but connote different things. An argument connotes conflict whilst a debate connotes respectable discussions. Thus the point in there being two different words that denote the same thing lies there.

Immahnoob said:
Well, I can always help you with the equivocations.

Immahnoob said:
Because the OP stated he uses them the same way?

highspot said:
But the point was brought up about tiptoeing around "argue" and using "debate" instead (which the OP commented on), you gave technical definitions and said that's the end, I explained that people use them differently regardless of what one dictionary says.

damastah said:

Join Type-YUETSU and rejoice.