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Apr 18, 2015 3:23 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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> The Earth is facing destruction

Well shit...
A lot of info dumping and buildup. Lol, Tuexdo La Smoking Bomber. What a weird attack name. Dat cliffahnger though.
Apr 18, 2015 3:43 AM
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Either it was some seriously crappy translation or this 'faithful adaptation' made changes to the plot.
Apr 18, 2015 4:36 AM
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I thought we stopped calling it faithful after they kept Shitennou alive.
Apr 18, 2015 5:12 AM
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It is faithful adaptation to Naoko Takeuchi`s vision of Sailor Moon. Even the author coudn`t make manga exactly as she want.

This episode was way better that previous ones! I love it :-) But there`s one thing taht REALLY bother me. King Endymion said that Usagi was 22 when she was crowned as Neo Queen Serenity and gave birth to Chibi-usa. But in the manga, at the end, during Usagi x Mamoru`s weddning, when she was 16, it was said that she`s pregnant, right? And then Parallel Sailor Moon also wouldn`t match to this vision! :(
SanderellaApr 18, 2015 5:17 AM
Apr 18, 2015 7:28 AM
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^ 16 and pregnant in the manga?
Dang they got to it quickly lol


Lots of info this episode. King Endymion was surprised that those small malefic black crystal are being used in the past for evil and have insane power as well.

Sailor Moon getting mad once they went back to their present time. Really? Getting mad and jealous for something so small. No surprise that the rod wouldn't work again. To end the episode, Sailor Moon gets paralyzed by that glare attack. I wonder how Tuxedo Mask will rescue her.

More Sailor Pluto as well.
Pretty good episode overall.

Apr 18, 2015 10:04 AM
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Usagi getting jealous of Chibi-Usa again, this is going to lead to something serious. I suppose Mamoru doesn't think she's capable of looking after Chibi-Usa. And due to that jealousy, the Crystal is not working properly.

I'm waiting to see what happens with Chibi-Usa. Not saying anymore here.

I feel like they made some changes to Pluto's character. Did Pluto ever blush lightly like that?

ANd about Usagi's pregnancy. I don't remember if the manga specified at what age did Usagi got married. Doesn't bother me much if there's a difference, maybe they were trying to discourage teenage pregnancies?

Waiting for the next episode. Why must this be fortnightly again?
Apr 18, 2015 10:11 AM
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kagura-pb said:
Sanderella said:
But there`s one thing taht REALLY bother me. King Endymion said that Usagi was 22 when she was crowned as Neo Queen Serenity and gave birth to Chibi-usa. But in the manga, at the end, during Usagi x Mamoru`s weddning, when she was 16, it was said that she`s pregnant, right? And then Parallel Sailor Moon also wouldn`t match to this vision! :(


He says exactly the same thing in the manga.
Also, I checked the last chapter and NO WHERE is it said that Usagi's 16 when the wedding takes place. The scene is ambiguous enough to assume it may as well take place a few years later, when she's older.


Thank you for your respond :) Maybe you're right and wedding was hold few years after proposal but there wasn't any suggestion.
But I'm really unhappy that even than it isn't possible with Parallel Sailor Moon :( But there's still hope because Chibi-Usa is FIRST princess...

I just looked through the ending of the manga: I think that we HAVE to assume that the wedding take a place when Usagi is 21 because she has to be 22 when Chibi-Usa is born. I saw Crystal Tokyo on one of the latest pages. What that could mean O.o She can't be crowned then, before wedding... And the bed is diffrent. Hah, I love such theories but I don't want to spam xD
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Apr 18, 2015 11:47 AM
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Loved this.
As for her pregnancy age, it never was stated how old she was when they got married, also they wake up together in a bed, what possibly is their own house.

Also, damn that ost was intense at the end o-o
Apr 18, 2015 12:20 PM
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Man, we haven't seen Mars, Mercury, or Jupiter in months! Will we finally see Black Lady next episode?
Apr 18, 2015 1:29 PM

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Can't say the realisation part at the start really struck a cord like in the original anime. There was just no impact.... Same goes for the random Diana scene and jealousy scene.

It makes me wonder whether Chibi-Usa actually knew Usagi/Sailormoon was her mother the whole time. Was she just keeping silent, or could she really not deduce it from the identical looks of her parents??
Apr 18, 2015 2:58 PM

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Is it me or does Tuxedo's attack name sounds silly. Tuexdo La Smoking Bomber? Really strange lol.

Anyway, there's a lot of stuff going on, and we get to see more Pluto screentime! She definitely deserved all that screen time than guarding the Time Space. More Pluto in the next episode, please!

Usagi being jealous of Chibi-Usa was too unsettling, even in Usagi's retrospective giving that she is the mother of Chibi-Usa. She needs to stop being jealous of her future daughter and be cheerful self again.

The cliffhanger was very tense! I wonder what will Tuxedo do to rescue Usagi. Use his attack weapon again? Hmm, maybe but we'll find out in two weeks.
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Apr 18, 2015 3:02 PM

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Sometimes I wonder why I'm still even watching this (as a general Sailor Moon fan, I kinda have to)... First half was really boring. (maybe because I already knew everything that was revealed?)

Let's go back to the past only to return to the future to lose.
Apr 18, 2015 5:21 PM

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Sailor moon and tuxedo mask were so slow in realizing chibiusa was their daughter. She called someone who looks just like them mama/papa and they didn't get it until the future King Endymion said so. Like, seriously?
Apr 18, 2015 8:47 PM

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Definitely looking forward to Black Lady's appearance! I wonder if Sailor Uranus and Neptune are going to make their entrance by the time the anime is done. I am not a manga reader of the anime so I won't know.
Apr 18, 2015 8:51 PM

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Sighs. Usagi still getting jealous over Chibi-usa even when she learned she's her DAUGHTER.
This episode answered my questions on how they managed to live from the 21st century to the 30th. Wow.

Hello, Prince Dimande's creepy obsession over Neo Serenity. Nice to see you again.
Apr 19, 2015 7:19 AM

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OK i was wrong , it was really not an alternate reality, rather, it was really the future, because 30th century Endymion = Tuxedo Mask, and Queen Serenity = Sailor Moon plus, Small Lady = Chibiusa is their daughter. Lol even Artemis and Luna had a kid neko named Diana....hahaha. Their power is Longevity that's why they reached up to 30 century. At least they explained it.


Apr 19, 2015 7:29 AM

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Definitely looking forward to Black Lady's appearance! I wonder if Sailor Uranus and Neptune are going to make their entrance by the time the anime is done. I am not a manga reader of the anime so I won't know.


That will be Season 2.

kagura-pb said:
zanpakutoflames said:
I feel like they made some changes to Pluto's character. Did Pluto ever blush lightly like that?


Yes, she did blush like that in the manga chapter too, though it looked a little bit more subtle. I guess they wanted to emphasize the fact that


Well, Endymion/Mamoru is the only main male character. Yeah... it was definitely more subtle in the manga
Apr 19, 2015 1:09 PM

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Their faces priceless OMG
Apr 19, 2015 1:39 PM
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This episode was quite good!
So many things happened and yet it didn't feel rushed at all.
THEIR FACES WHEN THEY SAW THEIR CHILDREN, GOD. Both couples' reactions were priceless, I lol'd hard.
I still think Usagi's jealously over her own daughter is quite enraging and over all frustrating, but I guess that Chibiusa kissing Mamo knowing he was her father makes Usagi's jealously justified.
Chibiusa is sick, man. Her Electra complex is strong... and disgusting x_x
Only 6 episodes left, I wonder if we'll see the other Sailor Guardians

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Apr 20, 2015 12:16 AM

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Ugh....Chibi Usa at it again....
Apr 20, 2015 6:18 AM

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Art was sooo poor this episode : /
Apr 20, 2015 7:20 AM
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Art was sooo poor this episode : /


There's nothing to be worried about.
If you compare the official web release with the preview, you will see they were starting to fix it:





Just wait for DVD/Blu-ray release. They are usually much better than web version.
Apr 20, 2015 6:07 PM

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I was watching today at college and the only thing I could hear were the EHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! Usagi did several times. Such a funny moment.
Apr 21, 2015 1:13 AM

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I love the part in which they realize that Chibiusa is their future daughter. XD
Apr 21, 2015 2:02 AM

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I have seen the bd art and really, it's so much better. No derp faces with which anime is filled. Those make me cringe.

I have heard the anime is faithful to the plot, but not to 'characterization' Ami, and Rei are the most affected ones. so yeah, the original manga ain't bad as the anime seems to make it. Sure, the plot might not be superb but hey, plot wasn't original SM's best point to begin with- characters were.

Lol long life is =/= peace. Too many people = rapid increase in child birth = not enough food = severe poverty and malnourishment = destruction of humanity, more like the earth will explode. Maybe I am reading too much between the lines.

They really should bring in chibiness in this anime (but at this point, it might actually be too late...) What an annoying mom Usagi is proving to be, getting jealous of her own child. If she could be honest to Mamoru, then her actual reason was not half-bad.

At this point, Venus is probably the only one showing personality (along with the main trio. And Luna) Once again, Tuxedo Mask had to help Sailor Moon. Hope she gets back in form soon.
Apr 21, 2015 5:47 PM
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Wondering how it's possible for people not to die, overpopulate, and kill the planet...But then it's anime..a place where there is no logic.

And once again, we can see that Sailor Moon is jealous over a kid. Lol really?

Even though Chibi Usa knew who her parents were, why did she have to act so rude to them? I don't see how being spoiled has anything to do with it...
Apr 22, 2015 3:10 PM

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I can't believe it. It became so good that I like it
Apr 26, 2015 5:32 PM

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Good episode.

Lots of revelations happened, King Endymion and New Queen Serenity being the future selves of Mamoru and Usagi. and her name was Usamgi Small Lady and they didn't react to that!?!?!

As for marriage, they already said 22 so that's fine age tbh.

Lol Diana is also the daughter of Luna and Artemis.

What i didn't like is they didn't at least gave new outfits to the original Sailor Guardians. At least put some wings or updated uniform. Must be suck using the same uniform for 8 centuries.

And Pluto being the oldest of the old!?! :O

Ehh Esmeraude dies like that!?! I think they should have made the battles much better in the Anime version as sort of improvement to the already excellent manga.

I have a feeling Prince Demanded is the sole person who was exiled to Planet Nemesis and either Neo Queen Serenity did it or he thinks he was imprisoned because of her.

Can't wait for the next episode! I wonder if they'll finish Black Moon arc within the season or so?!?
Apr 27, 2015 9:32 AM
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Good episode.

Lots of revelations happened, King Endymion and New Queen Serenity being the future selves of Mamoru and Usagi. and her name was Usamgi Small Lady and they didn't react to that!?!?!

As for marriage, they already said 22 so that's fine age tbh.

Lol Diana is also the daughter of Luna and Artemis.

What i didn't like is they didn't at least gave new outfits to the original Sailor Guardians. At least put some wings or updated uniform. Must be suck using the same uniform for 8 centuries.

And Pluto being the oldest of the old!?! :O

Ehh Esmeraude dies like that!?! I think they should have made the battles much better in the Anime version as sort of improvement to the already excellent manga.

I have a feeling Prince Demanded is the sole person who was exiled to Planet Nemesis and either Neo Queen Serenity did it or he thinks he was imprisoned because of her.

Can't wait for the next episode! I wonder if they'll finish Black Moon arc within the season or so?!?


Black Moon Arc will come to and end very soon, in 6 episodes.
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That episode was actually pretty good until Sailor Moon was like: "you'd defend her (aka our daughter) over me???? Waaaaaaaah!" Then everything fell apart, like the pacing was terrible and there were plot holes (how do Sailor Moon and the others jump through time after Chibiusa even though there's only one key????)....So yeah, the second part of the episode was really bad. At least I enjoyed the first part.
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Aug 23, 2015 9:47 PM

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Pretty good episode... imo. Infodump, but I enjoyed it.
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That episode was actually pretty good until Sailor Moon was like: "you'd defend her (aka our daughter) over me???? Waaaaaaaah!" Then everything fell apart, like the pacing was terrible and there were plot holes (how do Sailor Moon and the others jump through time after Chibiusa even though there's only one


Same. I guess Usagi has zero motherly love in her yet? Haha. It feels so unrealistic that she would get that jealous of Mamoru was being nice to a little kid. If my man was being nice to a little kid I'd just be like "Aww, he's gonna make such a great dad!!". I know she's supposed to be young and immature but... girl, you just saw the earth destroyed and stuff, you need to get in control of your emotion and learn to trust you man a little more...
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I've tried to look it up but I don't see the connection of "1832" that's on Neo Queen Serenity's "bed". Anyone else know of the connection?
What if the Hokey Pokey is what it is all about?

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I hated the whole Usagi getting jealous over Chibiusa in the original so it's only natural it's still bleh in this one.

Aug 10, 2021 1:53 PM

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i knew chibiusa was their daughter because i read spoilers YEARS ago but it still cracked me up with the whole 'EHHHH????" from usagi and mamo xD
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Nice enough continuation of the episode.
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I wish Usagi would be less childish about Chibi-Usa. I know she's only fourteen, but she's a hero, her friends are missing, and she just learned her future kingdom has fallen. However, I don't want to let Mamoru off the hook either: he's been kinda weird and overprotective with their daughter. Like, Usagi's the mom, maybe don't steamroll all of her decisions and try to be more balanced and mature.

Diana is cute; even the cats are getting it on. x) Only the other Sailors seem to be perpetually single even centuries in the future.

It feels like the show has been trying to up the comedy aspect in this second part, what with the frequent Usagi screams and the comedy freeze frames. It feels off since it hasn't been a part of the show's visual identity so far.

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