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Jun 20, 2015 3:24 AM
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The whole Black Lady intimidation was getting old. However, I did kinda like the music of this episode.

The one that was having the most fun imo was probably Wiseman...
Sigh, predictable.

Lol, Planet Nemesis. Although from this episode, I have to admit that Wiseman is clever with what he did to survive. Heh cliffhanger.
Jun 20, 2015 5:18 AM
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Well this was a good episode. Plenty of action.

Is it still going according to the manga or they're making things up at this point?
Weakness is a sin!
Jun 20, 2015 5:22 AM
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The incest tho...
Jun 20, 2015 9:56 AM
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This was actually an awesome episode.
Jun 20, 2015 12:14 PM
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The animation was flawless all the way through! Next episode is going to be super emotional :(
Jun 20, 2015 12:48 PM
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Hyped! So beautiful and exiting. Hopefully the sailor scouts will have some action they get beaten up quite often.
Jun 20, 2015 4:34 PM
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She kissed her dad again.

Don't cross the streams, it would be bad! (do it!) It's not like there's much of the earth left to save...
Jun 20, 2015 6:49 PM
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So hyped with this episode! :D :D Can't wait to see the next one and I HOPE it stays really excellent! :D
Jun 20, 2015 7:25 PM
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Pluto will save Small Lady
Jun 20, 2015 10:11 PM
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Did anyone else thought Wiseman pulled a Naruku? That decoy thing was something Naraku would do.

While I did enjoy the episode, I kind of wanted some action towards the end. The whole Crystal slowly getting closer was hilarious. Everyone is like don't do it, and I'm like just DO IT already. Make the Earth explode xD

I was hoping to see Pluto in action. Now I have to wait 2 weeks more.

Jun 21, 2015 2:24 AM

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The sailor senshi are really pathetic, why do they even exist anymore?
The job of Pluto must be the easiest, just stand there and do nothing. Why everything she could do is considered taboo?



I hate those lips!!! yuck.

The last scene was so funny, like: ''SOMEONE DO SOMETHING!''
Jun 21, 2015 2:58 AM
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Cremilin said:
The sailor senshi are really pathetic, why do they even exist anymore?
The job of Pluto must be the easiest, just stand there and do nothing. Why everything she could do is considered taboo?



I hate those lips!!! yuck.

The last scene was so funny, like: ''SOMEONE DO SOMETHING!''


because she would be destroyed if she commit the taboo.
Jun 21, 2015 6:50 AM

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nice episode!
Nemesis is also the fourth wiseman and in form of the Whole planet.
Black Lady is unforgiving and brutal by sending a 3rd black malefic crystal.
Prince Demande still a strong Villain by defeating possessed Saphir.
Pluto sets-out when the worst case scenario as commanded by Princess Serenity. What is that 3rd taboo???
Possessed Mamo-chan got a hold of the two crystals, but I think Mamo has a plan and acted like he's still on the enemy side.
Prince Demande successfully stole the 2 crystals from Black Lady and decided to used it since he trusts no one anymore. Why is it when 2 crystal made contact it would destroy time and space? really!? that powerful!?
5/5.


Jun 21, 2015 12:20 PM

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Wait.... what?! How could Prince Demande kill off Saphir like that?? This scene totally just went against the whole brotherly vibe the original anime had. If this was in the manga, I have to question whether the mangaka just simply wanted to clear the side cast and reset things back to zero or something.

Speaking of things not in the original anime.... What the heck is with all this incestuous Black Lady kissing Mamoru in front of her own dad, King Endymion and (future mum) Usagi?! I think they've been milking the 'love' theme too hard. I can't quite tell who their target market is anymore.... Young girls or the presumably older generation with a more perverted mind?
Jun 21, 2015 1:56 PM

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I've seen some people say that its either Neo Queen Serenity or Princess Serenity in Pluto's flashback. Its actually Queen Serenity. The queen of the original Silver Millennium.
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Jun 22, 2015 12:18 AM
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SweetKotomi said:
Did anyone else thought Wiseman pulled a Naruku? That decoy thing was something Naraku would do.



Lol, he totally did a Naruku right there.

I felt this episode was so drawn out.. It was basically the episode where no one did nothing.

DoragonessU said:
Wait.... what?! How could Prince Demande kill off Saphir like that?? This scene totally just went against the whole brotherly vibe the original anime had. If this was in the manga, I have to question whether the mangaka just simply wanted to clear the side cast and reset things back to zero or something.



I totally agree with you on that one. There was no hesitation or sadness at all... Just one quick goodbye and BAM ded.
Jun 22, 2015 3:59 AM

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Too much whining this episode, someone do something cause we can't do anything!
Jun 22, 2015 8:38 PM

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Ughh, there's to much incest...

Jun 23, 2015 8:14 AM
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Black Lady officially became my favourite character; she beat the stuff out of the Sailor Senshi! I'm a bit disappointed she rejected Luna-P, because in the old series her acceptance of Luna-P lead to funny attacks like the umbrella, the ping pong balls, and the fan. But I can understand her reasoning, because she wanted to become adult, and so it is fitting for the story, I suppose.

I also loved Prince Demande this episode, especially when he snatched the two crystals out of Black Lady's hands, and wiped that smug look off her face. Priceless!

Wiseman revealing himself to be Nemesis itself and coming crushing down on Earth was also cool.

The Sailor Senshi were completely useless, being held down by the evil eye the entire episode. And when they were released from it they just stood there uselessly watching as Usagi powered up to fight Nemesis. They really need to shape up!

The Elder Mamoru was useless. The younger Mamoru had his uses, but was mostly a sex doll for Black Lady to amp up the creepy incest factor.

Usagi herself was alright, for attempting to defend the earth, and also recalling her relationship with Chibiusa in the hopes of changing Black Lady back. But, truthfully, I really wanted her to do some sort of team attack with the other Senshi. Come on writers, use your cast better!

Pluto was alright too. Not very useful, but she did break a taboo by walking through the door, and there is the anticipation of her and Black Lady's confrontation.

As you may guess by now, I'm totally pro-villains at the moment, and it isn't likely going to change unless the sailor senshi do something amazing next episode.
Jun 23, 2015 8:59 PM

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Damn, Black Lady was badass when she dropped that third black crystal, almost scary.
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Jun 26, 2015 12:45 PM

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Pretty epic episode.

I might not be remembering correctly because it's been a while since I've seen R, but didn't Luna-P become evil as well? I didn't think black lady swatted it away like that.

Geez I just witnessed Tuxedo Mask club Sailor moon with her wand O_o

Super glad that Sailor Pluto has a much greater role in this part than in R! ^-^ Naww little Pluto is so cute!

Eww Black Lady and Endimyon kissing bleh! Dx
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Jun 28, 2015 6:21 AM

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As you may guess by now, I'm totally pro-villains at the moment, and it isn't likely going to change unless the sailor senshi do something amazing next episode.

I actually found myself rooting for the villains as well xD I was like "c'mon! smash these crystals together Demande! :D" towards the end. And well, that's mostly cause Black Lady has always been cool, and she's pretty badass in Crystal as well, and I like Prince Demande a lot more here as well as compared to the old series (as I can't just hate the guy if he has Miyano Mamoru's voice :3)

...and yeah, Senshi seem pretty useless in this fight so far..

Anyways, looking forward to see how this all ends, and to Pluto's extended role (which is awesome to watch, even tho her blushing to King Endymion threw me off a bit)
Jun 28, 2015 1:49 PM

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Feels super awkward to explain the incest since I'm watching this with my 8 year old brother
Jun 30, 2015 8:55 AM
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Feels super awkward to explain the incest since I'm watching this with my 8 year old brother


Hmmm... You shouldn't have let him watch SMC.
Jul 16, 2015 9:25 PM

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Great episode and i'm glad it's following the manga despite some minor changes along the way.

Animation has been improving and i love how the characters are much more serious and sinister, but there's really something wrong with Black Lady and Pluto's face :O

I hope they fix it on the BDs ^^

Music is godly though!

WTF the Sailor Senshis didn't do anything. Saphir disappears like that!?!?! Dimande manages to get past Wiseman's mind control just like that!?! At least put up a fight!!! Even though this is a 90s material, at least add some new fight scenes for the modern remake.

Lots of Black Lady and Endymion kissing scenes :O

They even showed Mamo hitting Usagi. At least they're not holding back.

Wiseman is the planet itself!?! DAAAAAAAMN.

Fucking finally Pluto is coming to the scene. I can't believe her job is to guard a timeless door for eternity. At least let her travel to the future so she can experience new things instead of just an empty space behind a door.

I kinda lol'd how Dimande manages to steal the Legendary Crystal just like that.

Can't wait for the next episode!! Last 2 episodes, but at least they're continuing it!
Jul 18, 2015 10:52 AM

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The sailor guardians are so useless at this point.

Go Pluto!
Sep 4, 2015 7:13 PM
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DarcyD said:
Ughh, there's to much incest...


Yeah, I don't really get why Chibi Usa has basically fallen in love with her dad...
Sep 14, 2015 7:44 AM

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DarcyD said:
Ughh, there's to much incest...


Yeah, I don't really get why Chibi Usa has basically fallen in love with her dad...


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electra_complex

Pretty much this. Her whole theme is that she was driven into madness because of how she was manipulated by evil when she was vulnerable and alone. It pushes her longing for attention over the top.
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Jun 13, 2017 3:41 PM

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THAT CLIFFHANGER THOUGH!

How could they just leave it off like that! The planet and everyone could be destroyed in an instant !!!

Lots of Electra complex incest too.

Music was better in this episode than most other ones so far.
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Jun 17, 2017 2:30 AM

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Demande holding the two crystals together was kind of comical. Everyone is freaking out and the freeze frame with him about to touch them together just cracked me up for some reason.

Sep 23, 2017 9:52 PM
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Sailor Pluto: CHAOS CONTROL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
May 29, 2023 5:20 PM
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Girl really proving Freud right with the Electra complex💀
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Solid continuation from the previous episode and oh my lord......Wiseman was the planet Nemesis all this time?Daaaamn son.
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