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| Damn I hate the new guy, having someone like that in the office would drive me insane. Poor Oi-chan :-( Anyways, I'd actually like to see this Aerial Girls anime, the lead character Aria seems kinda interesting. She reminds me a lot of Piruluk-tan  |
| My old Japan blog which I'm never going to finish: https://ramenshojo.wordpress.com/2016/08/07/day-6-nakano-broadway-harmonica-street-zauo-restaurant/ |
| Tarou's taking a long route to being a decent guy, I think. He's no way near the most irritating staff now that the new Hiraoka guy is here. I'd hate to work with someone like that... I want Miyamori to snap and yell at him soon... Though, Tarou x Hiraoka, nice. Ema as a mentor figure is cute. |
zeroyuki92 said: Am I the only one who noticed that Takanashi is becoming somewhat bearable? I mean, while he's still stupid and talk a lot, at least now he kinda accepting his flaws, breaking some lil bit of ice on that new white hair PA by offering some beer, and most importantly he actually get the job done. I prefer working with him for a week rather than with that funny story fu*kin editor for a single day. My dislike has shifted from Tarou to Hiraoka. I can't grasp his character at all, whether he's irresponsible, lazy or just unsocial... and that preview + next episode title! "You Set Me Up!" ? Does that mean Hiraoka is an asshole? Eh?? Tarou is just comic relief now, as someone stated before. Saying that, showing the PV was really great. To see the "product" after all the issues and character efforts put into it is really, really nice. I found it kind of funny when Satou was going around to all the animators. Their reactions, hahaha. Satou probably has it tougher than Andou in adapting to the work environment, since I believe she was an OL before this. |
okanagan said: Mallony said: The animation quality has been really good the whole series! I'm going to agree with you 95%, but whenever I re-watch the early episodes, it always seems to me that there were noticeable problems with Episode 1 that are not subtle at all. When we first meet the girls, there is quite a lot of attention to their love of donuts. So we are all staring at the donuts. However, the animation of the donuts was remarkably poor. To those of us who live in places where donuts are commonly eaten, they have a normal size and shape. To be technical, they have a certain inner diameter and outer diameter. However, the five girls were eating donuts whose dimensions changed magically during the scene. Especially, look at the size of their fingers compared to the donuts that they are holding. Here are three webpages which were specifically about Episode 1 and show many still images: http://anicobin.ldblog.jp/archives/41269962.html http://blog.livedoor.jp/ponpokonwes/archives/14627863.html http://otanews.livedoor.biz/archives/52003641.html The first day Aoi came to work, one of the first people that she met was Misato Segawa (瀬川 美里) the work-at-home freelance key animator. Misato was also the animation supervisor (作画監督) for Episodes 4 and 9 of "Exodus!". So this is an important person. But look at the first views of her. Warning, major large- cup-size fanservice, made all the more remarkable given that Misato was leaning backwards! I mean, is that even physically possible without 100% silicone? http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/ponpokonwes/imgs/c/b/cb620a64-s.jpg http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/ponpokonwes/imgs/0/7/07ebd8df-s.jpg I am not complaining about the fanservice. But this was entirely inconsistent with the level of fanservice throughout the remainder of the series. The only possible exception was much later in the series in the swimming pool scene in Episode 17 where we briefly got to see Mimujī and Roro in revealing swimsuits. But that was tasteful and story-related. Another thing in Episode 1 which I think was a major flaw was that Aoi went into the party room and we were all introduced to many characters all at once. I just can't see how that was a sensible idea. It made Episode 1 confusing. The normal thing in anime, or any kind of story telling, is to introduce a few characters at a time. This principle applies even for series with an enormous cast, such as "Girl Friend Beta". Or "War and Peace", for that matter. Another possible criticism was the long "Initial D" scene which was great animation but ineffective story telling. In summary, Shirobako is a classic. But I think there was something not quite in gear in Episode 1. Absolutely no offense here, but I just found that nitpicking about donut size is very lolworthy that I was thinking you are joking. I actually was kind of chuckling there :)) Btw yeah, working with Hiraoka would be sucks, but I think he's workable, just need some time for myamori slap to redeem himself. |
| another great episode. another emergency for the company. and that's not even unrealistic... people like that guy are just unable to think everything through for once. It's amazing how Ema is able to interpret every gesture of Kunogi correctly :D I mean if you know what she meant it makes sense but I would have taken forever to get to tooth brush just by what she did. |
| Dat new girl is really cute. I love her bond with Ema, too. Man it's great these girls are working harder. Zuka's pig acting was nice too. Well, I am absent-minded and I totally am." "Run inside the train so you'll be faster." LOL that was a good one. Man flowing somen is really popular recently. That's twice the week, firt it was Koufuku Graffiti. Man, that in-anime PV looks really interesting. 100% would watch. |
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| zeroyuki92 said: I just found that nitpicking about donut size is very lolworthy that I was thinking you are joking. I actually was kind of chuckling there. Thanks for asking me to clarify whether I was joking or not. I was actually being serious. Those donuts have never looked right to me. Since the don-don-dialog makes us all focus our attention on the donuts, it is essential that they be drawn correctly. There is much more flexibility for things in the background since they are in our peripheral vision. zeroyuki92 also said: Absolutely no offense here. None taken. I think you are being reasonable to wonder whether I'm nitpicking. But I've been a long-time fan of Mizushima ever since "Squid Girl" (2010). He is famous for extreme technical accuracy, most notably in the tanks in "Girls und Panzer" (2012). That drift-racing car is in fact an accurately-reproduced Volvo 240. Mizushima said so in a tweet to his fans. Apparently, some fan tweeted him asking for the model number. Here is the link to that tweet from Mizushima (in Japanese): https://twitter.com/tsuki_akari/status/561959039110627330 Back during "GuP", fans were constantly tweeting Mizushima with all kinds of detailed questions about the tanks and other military hardware, and he always had precise answers. In addition to that, he was quick to admit any mistakes spotted by sharp-eyed fans. One time, the aiming viewfinder had a pattern for a German tank. But in the story it was an American tank. Mizushima promised to correct the mistake when the Blu-ray / DVD came out. Also, the airplanes seen in Shirobako are all incredibly realistic according to the experts on these threads. ErwinJA created a specialized thread just to discuss this. Even those cute planes flown by the doll Mimujii and the bear Roro were closely-modelled on actual military aircraft, down to some details associated with specific subtypes. They are not just generic "planes". Another aspect of the realism of this series is that fans in Japan have gone out and discovered the actual locations of many of the exterior backgrounds. They are nearly photographic in their accuracy, as you can see here: http://seitiblog.jp/blog-entry-79.html So, to me, the donuts don't look up to Mizushima's standards. I am actually wondering whether he didn't check the storyboard for that episode. Maybe he was off sick with the flu or something. The whole episode just doesn't carry his perfectionistic style. |
okanaganFeb 8, 2015 11:22 AM
| Hiraoka is damn annoying. Not wanting to go to meetings, always in a bad mood. Honestly, idk why he even applied for the job. It's refreshing to see Honda again, only this time skinny. Being surrounded by cakes probably made him bored of eating them. Now if only that other fat dude could lose weight. Nice to see Zuka-chan again. It was cute seeing her step up and play the role of that mascot. |
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| Good episode. |
[right] "The big secret to breaking the rules is to make it look as though you're following them." |
| Work in Anime Industry = Gained Weight Work in Cake Shop = Loss Weight lol |
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| hentai_proxy said: I understand that you criticize this anime precisely because you like it very much. Is this correct? Ha ha. Sure. That is a very good way of putting it. hentai_proxy said: I remember you saying something to the effect that Animation Runner Kuromi was one of your first anime. Yes that's right. The two-part OVA, "Animation Runner Kuromi" (2001, 2004) (Animeshon Seisaku Shinkō Kuromi-chan), was a wonderful documentation of the normal methods of animation back at that time. But it was not nearly so realistic as Shirobako. Basically, they only focused on the people doing a few of the jobs. The show only emphasized the key animation (原画). The main character, Kuromi, did two jobs: Production Assistant (制作進行) and Production Desk (制作デスク). That was because the studio was extremely small so that there was in fact only a single Production Assistant. Only the job title "Production Desk" was on Kuromi's name card. In addition, one character was the Animation Supervisor (作画監督). Finally, a guy was in charge of sound recording (音響監督), even though we normally just saw him standing around and chatting. One of the characters briefly mentions the fact that all of the filming and post- production is now done digitally. Back around 2000, the anime industry was going through a major transition to digital. Prior to 2000, all of the drawing and coloring was done on actual sheets of clear plastic. These were then filmed using a camera. This was called "cel-based animation". I always find it amazing to look back at pre-2000 series and see how different they looked. The final TV anime series to make the switchover from cel-based to digital was "Sazae-san" in late 2013. Here is the preview of the English dub of Part 1 of "Kuromi" (2001): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21ZsPLhMs0Q Given that beautiful documentations of the anime industry have been done in 2001 and then in 2014, I don't expect to see the next one until the year 2027. |
okanaganFeb 10, 2015 4:36 AM
okanagan said: ...Prior to 2000, all of the drawing and coloring was done on actual sheets of clear plastic. These were then filmed using a camera. This was called "cel-based animation"... Wow, that sounds like a pain in the ass to do. Thanks for the info bro, I always learn something new everytime I read one of your comments. |
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| Yay Shizuka finally getting some more work ~ <3 Also friggin slim Honda lmao |
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| Even making a PV is hard work. Good episode. |
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| Dat weight losss |
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jin15 said: Work in Anime Industry = Gained Weight Work in Cake Shop = Loss Weight lol That's true though. Work in the anime industry is pretty stressful and assuming he sits at a desk most of the time, he's not getting in any exercise. He's probably more physically active at the cake shop and being surrounded by cakes all the time can make a person not want to eat any cake. It's weird. |
| That editor... htsuji said: Ouch! Another "Funny story!" I have to punch the editor... Really makes one feel like that, yeah... Still, Hiraoka is even worse. Especially this episode, makes you wonder whether he ever actually does any work at all... |
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| Cthuko is delayed. An OK episode. Doing rush PV work is also difficult/hard work. Miyamori is charming in this episode. And she's being a reliable supervisor to those new 2 PAs. Satou and Andou are both in trouble but Miyamori guides them all the way. Keyframe girl (Kunogi, Ai) is so clingy to Ema. Tarou-san is so negativistic. Sakaki is becoming reliable even in terms of mascot role playing. |
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| Honda wahhh xD Wow, just wow The editor He really need a punch and a kick from Hulk xD Lol @ Kunogi Ema looks like her translator, or maybe she is? xD Nice PV! Vindstot said: Kantoku's imagination while listening to the OST recording was hilarious! Everyone's reaction though. XD  Dat imagination Dat pose So glorious Much wow xD |
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| Woah slim Honda :DD.. Like how those girls from PV look :P |
| Honda lost weight so fast wow, and that Hiraoka guy is a pain in the ass, im surprise he is not fired yet |
| Lovely ending I must say and quite lovely episode in general! Let's see what's next! |
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| Sublime! Even this episode, managed to surprise me, not only for seeing Honda in that perfect form, but he reiterated the concept that I expressed some time ago in a previous episode. Although the episode is again "Idepon Miyamori" centric; Ema and Zuka, manage to stand out in their brief appearances. The Publisher is a bastard, I would make him do a loop the loop on the Volvo 240 series sedan. Note with pleasure the growth not only of Miyamori, but also that of Taro. Good episode, because it has proven again deep in the narrative. Even Zuka as Ema, knows cope in ballet. |
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| Honda losing weight at the cake store, how is that even possible being surrounded by sugar He's such a boss! |
| Honda be on that Slim Fast diet. |
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| "Run inside the train to go faster" Lol How the heck did this Hiraoka guy get hired with that shitty attitude? |
| the Ema and Kunogi pairing is too much >u< Aoi is such a good senpai am I the only one that doesn't dislike Tarou anymore? lol I actually feel bad for him because everyone ignores him or tells him to shut up xD I found him super annoying at the beginning but I've got a hold on his personality and I actually think he's cool...lol yo, I'd watch Third Aerial Girls |
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MoeGod said: zeroyuki92 said: Am I the only one who noticed that Takanashi is becoming somewhat bearable? I mean, while he's still stupid and talk a lot, at least now he kinda accepting his flaws, breaking some lil bit of ice on that new white hair PA by offering some beer, and most importantly he actually get the job done. I prefer working with him for a week rather than with that funny story fu*kin editor for a single day. Nope you're not the only one. He's more of a joke character now. Actually it was the same case before this too, just that his mistakes were blown up more than others but as Miyamori stated everyone makes mistakes. As goofy and as delusional as he is, as you said he got the job done and in a timely fashion too. He actually learned from his experiences and made no mistake this time. I'd rather have Takanashi in a team rather than someone who's unmotivated and unhelpful like Hiraoka. He's the worst kind of person you'd want working in a team project. that started to make me miss Ochiai and Yano actually man, came a long way since the first ep to see those 5 girls do the donuts ritual again... im calling there won't be any making of the seven god or whatever it's called this season kunogi overload, good thing yasuhara can translate lol |
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| Judging by the PV, Third Aerial Girls Squad looks sooooo bad. (Not that the PV was bad or anything, but the concept/what the story seems to be about seems awful. Maybe it's just me though.) |
| Good episode! Nice to see Honda doing well. The newbie key animator has quite the interesting character about her. Man, that editor for the artist is a complete prick. Small signs at the end of the episode that the jerk-ish production assistant might start coming around. |
| Someone in the team doesn't care much about the end result. D: BluexMage said: Judging by the PV, Third Aerial Girls Squad looks sooooo bad. (Not that the PV was bad or anything, but the concept/what the story seems to be about seems awful. Maybe it's just me though.) The art wasn't tryhard enough imo, feel like serious moments won't work out very well. |
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| That Kunogi girl...I wonder how she got hired in the first place if she can't even ask simple question herself -_- |
ninja88880 said: "Run inside the train to go faster" Lol How the heck did this Hiraoka guy get hired with that shitty attitude? Because of skills. Trust me, I can be a little bit of a dick sometimes without even realizing. I'm sure he's a good person but he doesn't show that part of him. But still, he's annoying for now. Go to the fucking meetings would ya!? |
| I didn't like the Kantoku at the beginning of the series, but I like him more in every episode. The scene where he's listening to the ost was hilarious!! |
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| Happy to see Honda dropping the fats after he quit the stress! :) |
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| It seems that silent shy girl is.....unique!!! She fits Ema very well and seems in a sync without speaking properly. How does Ema understand that? I noticed that there is no Hiraoka appearance when watching PV. 3.7/5 |
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| This show is just pure joy, even when tension creating dilemmas keep cropping up in the plot. First of all as the cour goes on, it becomes more pronounced how this show has been able to powerfully show the passage of time. Things like Honda showing up and looking completely different, and the shift in workplace dynamics with Ema and Aoi slowly becoming the company veterans makes for a really unique experience. I want to find more anime that do things like this. On that note I was not a big fan of Kunogi in her first appearance, but her and Ema's dynamic in this episode warmed me up to her. I like how here she wasn't just a bundle of nerves. Even as she failed to communicate (and Ema translating for her was funny as hell) we see her express more varied emotions as she gets excited about the prospect of animating the tooth brushing. Plus it warms my cockles to see Ema the previously cloyingly shy one come into her own as a more confident and capable animator. I also love seeing Miyamori's progression in this episode. Her relationship with Ando and Sato is a really sweet clearly reminiscent of hers and Yano's in the first cour. This was even driven home, when she gives them the exact same advice Yano gave her after helping them fix some mistakes they've made. The student has become the master. I also was getting excited when she got to rub Hiraoka's smug nose in what a bad employee he is. I think Hiraoka who I at first thought, like Sugie, would turn out to be a hidden genius in their midst is turning into a good cautionary tale on not taking your job seriously. Also the main plot of this episode was yet another creative and interesting hurdle. I honestly never considered making a PV too early could pose a serious problem to an animation company. I think Editor man has it out for them now, they definitely embarrassed him last time. Also the Director imagining himself flying as the orchestra plays the score was inspired. I also thought it was good subtle set up for how good the score was for the PV we got to see at the end. That ending was really dope too. Even as he continues to be a heel, Miyamori still doesn't want Hiraoka to be left out. And his interactions with Tarou were great at the dinner. I'd never heard of "free flowing noodles" but it looked pretty neat, the President always has such crazy food. Also, yeah that PV was pretty awesome, especially Miyamori's little vision at the end. After the three mains who work at Musashino comment that it's been awhile, we also get our first scene of the gang together in what feels like forever. To set it up we get a brief scene of Mii-chan excelling at her new CG job. I can't help but wonder if that look after she's complimented was dissatisfaction that she's just doing tires again though. Zuka had a nice little scene where she steps in when a mascot doesn't show up at one of her side jobs. Considering how she's definitely had the least success of our main girls, it was nice to see her get a little small victory there. It's fitting that the other girls are worried about her at their dinner, because I as an audience member definitely am too. No one likes to be left behind and with the other four girls all working on the same anime she certainly can't help but feel that way. We're running out of time for her to start achieving her dreams in this cour. And while I'd be happy with any ending if they do it well, I hope hers is a triumphant one as the new OP seems to suggest. |
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Memor said: How did Kunogi even get a job if she can't utter a single word? It's entirely possible that her portfolio spoke for itself (no pun intended). Anyhoo - Fifth Aerial Girls' Squad reminds me a bit of a moe Area 88. |
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| -Aw, Iguchi didn't keep her outfit -What the fuck I didn't even recognize Honda -Yeah this stuff seems like a production nightmare -I'm curious about Kunogi's art -Huh, they use actual instruments in their soundtracks? -Director stealing the show at the song recording -Kunogi a cute -Somehow I don't think putting Shizuka into the pig suit will turn out well -That pig's nose looks scary -Well that went a lot better than expected -Whose idea was it to use a pickled plum as a nose -Huh, interesting. The new hires don't know about all of the behind-the-scenes Exodus stuff and have only seen flawless performances by Aoi. -They show the finished PV in the end -ED animation focuses on Shizuka now, and I just now noticed that the five color trails are rotated based on the subject Everything happened in this episode but it strangely felt like nothing happened this episode. |
ThreePercentJul 24, 2016 3:59 PM
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| I'm really enjoying this half of the series much more than the first half! |
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| God, the mangaka's editor is the worst, I think that he secretly wants this anime to fail ;_; |
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| 5/5 Konugi is so cute~ Ugh, That funny story editor again.... i actually like taro since the beginning of the series, i find him funny. Hiraoka really needs to drop his "i know better than you" attitude and start following rules or get out. I get the felling that satou-san is gonna quit, please don't. |
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