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Nov 6, 2014 2:55 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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A lot of flashback this episode mostly with Obito and Kakashi. This episode had nostologia in it obviously. I think Obito was pretty funny as a kid.

Pretty picture they got as a team there.
Nov 6, 2014 3:39 AM
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Flashbacks!
With Rin, Obito and Kakashi
Lol Obito XD Sounded like he was trying to take a dump lol when attempting the clone jutsu
Dat commemorative photo, Kakashi and Obito looking off to the side, Minato forcing 'em to look at the camera xD
hand to hand combat between Obito and Kakashi.

Yep, you can certainly say Obito and Naruto's lives were almost the same when they were young.
Nov 6, 2014 4:16 AM
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I'll say the same thing I said when they showed flashback to Kabuto's life: "This should've been shown sooner."


RANT STARTS HERE, feel free not to read :)

I don't care for Obito, not one bit. I hate his guts. I find him lame, annoying and overpowered for the sake of overpowered. He is the exact kind of villain I hate the most. The one that gets all the power-ups necessary simply because.
He had almost 0 development before showing on screen (what was it, 2 episodes of Kakashi gaiden and that's it?)

When he did finally show up, he had great power which he used to its fullest until they learned it's secrets. He started getting beat up, after what he leveled up. That, however, didn't help him and he got his ass handed to him so he leveled up again, to Godlike entity this time.
He's your typical video game villain. Final fantasy antagonist. You chase him whole game and then you have to defeat his 3 forms since he just refuses to die even though your lvl 99 party crushes him with almost no effort.

Those kinds of villains don't make things entertaining for me, they make me hate them, for they are not challenging, but tedious.

Now, if I had some backstory on him beforehand, if I had developed some emotions, sympathy for him, it'd be another thing altogether.

This is why Orochimaru was such a great villain. We knew what happened in his past, we knew how things happened, what he went through and his transformation from slightly "lawful evil" to, I can't say chaotic evil, since he still does stuff which could be interpreted as neutral, so let's just go with evil :D

Orochimaru had development, he had his established powers, and, where he lacked in power, he used his brain and cunning to make twisted plots.
Obito had OP skill. Yet Minato stopped him nonetheless. Naruto stopped him as well.
Then they beat him again. And again.
And throughout all of that, the only thing that changes with Obito is how he looks.

Make no mistake, when I first saw Kakashi gaiden, I loved Obito's character. It was a genuine, nice, heartwarming, heartcrushing story about a sacrifice for the ones you love. A story about a young kid who finally gets the ability to protect the ones he cares about, only so he could die moments later saving those same people.
I was sad he died. I was also sad Rin died later on.

His transformation into villain, as well as his actual usage as villain in the show is where I started disliking Naruto. After all these years, the "final boss" is the part where I started not liking the very first anime I ever watched.
It's like Mass effect. 3 perfect games which made me love every second of it, only to screw up in those last 10 minutes with how blatantly empty it felt.

This is how I feel about Obito and Naruto lately. Bland. Empty. Shallow.
Worst of all, boring.

/Rant done, sorry for that, had to get it out.

I'll watch Naruto up until it ends, but not because I'm interested in it, I just wanna see it up until the end, now that I've spent many years with it.
Nov 6, 2014 4:42 AM
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I loved these flashbacks, they made the episode so intimate, and I couldn't stop smiling throughout the whole episode. I start to like Obito more and more. Good ep. 5/5
Nov 6, 2014 4:51 AM
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Too much flashbacks. Probably Next episode too.

Nonetheless it was a good episode, lots of nostalgia in it. 3/5
Nov 6, 2014 5:36 AM
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talk no jutsu episode

nostalgia but episode was a bit too much filled with flashbacks


also what are hashirama and madara doing right now? back to skipping stones?
Nov 6, 2014 7:16 AM
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Nov 6, 2014 7:16 AM
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Aye! Talk no Jutsu -episode. Naive stuff... disgusting.
Nov 6, 2014 7:34 AM
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Didn't really like this episode, too much talk and flashbacks. It is probably going to take ages to wrap things up if we are going to have more flashbacks, look at the preview, even more flashbacks =|
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Nov 6, 2014 7:36 AM

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He's attacking Obito hard with that talk no jutsu, Obito can't take anymore, he'll crack really soon.
Nov 6, 2014 8:01 AM

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Rin was so nice :c Why did she have to die? *sigh*

And the end of the episode! :0 "I'm always watching" --- omg. Naruto will surely change Obito, I bet!
Nov 6, 2014 8:19 AM

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When was it stated that obitos parents were dead?

Also this episode made it seem like Rin actually liked Obito instead of Kakashi. Which is actually pretty sad for obito.
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Started watching the anime again thinking there would no filler as a result of the manga ending, but NOPE, STILL FUCKING FILLER! WHY DO WE STILL HAVE FILLER!? The manga is over!

Nov 6, 2014 9:15 AM

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Rin so cute, why'd she have to die q-q
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Nov 6, 2014 10:06 AM

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Juubito is drawn as terrible as ever I see...
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Nov 6, 2014 10:07 AM

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One more episode about obito's academy times...
Great episode! ;)
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Nov 6, 2014 12:02 PM
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Was it just me or the art/animation for this episode seemed really off on some places?
Nevertheless I really liked the flashbacks, it gives some extra emotion to the story.
Also can someone help me with the OST near the end when they stare at each other, I just can't seem to find it.
Nov 6, 2014 12:04 PM

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So many flashbacks >.< I hope they end soon.
Nov 6, 2014 12:38 PM

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Pretty interesting episode. From the flashback I get the impression that Rin liked Obito much more than I thought, she cared for his lateness and bad results. I don't recall Sakura caring that much about Naruto.
Nov 6, 2014 1:07 PM

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Feels.

This episode reminded me again why Obito's the best character in Naruto
Nov 6, 2014 1:48 PM

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Good background story for Obito,nothing special bout this episode it was only talk.

Nov 6, 2014 2:52 PM

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Interesting flashback.
I like how Rin looks here

But most of the time the art in this episode was mediocre.
Nov 6, 2014 3:23 PM

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Flashback, flashback, filler, bad animation, flashback again...
Nov 6, 2014 3:51 PM

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Dragged out in-canon fillers -.- They're definitely milking it. Can't they do the milking once the Madara fight starts? Surely that filler would be much better.
Nov 6, 2014 6:17 PM

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that flashback made me want to cry... Obito's childhood was very Naruto-like. and Kakashi's just like Sasuke. damn the feels.
Nov 6, 2014 7:36 PM

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Long story short, the ending of Naruto has made me pick up the anime again after several years of it being dropped. Feels like i'm swooping dust from an old book..

Surprisingly, i didn't hate the flashback. I wouldn't say i liked it taking the whole episode, but it was overall good and funny. Felt like i'm watching Part 1 Naruto again. Animation was very sloppy, but it's not like Pierrot should waste their budget on flashbacks.

3/5. Man, there are so many incoming things i want to see animated...
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Nov 6, 2014 9:06 PM

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Dunno why, but I really liked his flashback. I probably liked it enough since the manga has just ended. >.<
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Nov 6, 2014 9:43 PM
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Damn. Obito was flashbacking quite a lot this episode. You can clearly see an angry Naruto at the end as Obito kept him hanging the whole time. XD

Jokes aside, very good episode. Flashbacks like these are actually nice.

Nov 7, 2014 4:01 AM

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How can people rate this episode 5? I mean I understand 3/5 but really 5/5? This episode is missing so much to make it a perfect episode. The fact anyone could have skipped this episode and wouldn't even know makes this episode far less then perfect. Personally I've had enough of Obito's back story I've seen more then enough of it. Oh and I've had enough of Talking no Jutsu and Flashback no Jutsu...

They even showed the same flash back twice in a row once without any sound and then with sound for no apparent reason whatsoever.

The manga has ended, Isn't that their cue to speed things up?
Nov 7, 2014 9:06 AM

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The flashbacks was not that bad. Naruto still focuses on knocking some sense in to Obito. I felt a chill after they did that photo.
Nov 7, 2014 1:28 PM
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Enjoyed some of the flashbacks and the animation was pretty great, otherwise not much to say about the episode. Better then in the manga but still not that great. 3/5
Nov 7, 2014 4:33 PM

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I'm just going to comment this about this episode: Cancerous animation.
Nov 8, 2014 3:50 AM

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b1GZZ said:
I'm just going to comment this about this episode: Cancerous animation.


Pierrot probably saving budget for the episodes that matter, towards the end.
Nov 8, 2014 8:09 AM

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I feel so bad for Obito, i want him and Rin to just have babies lol.
Nov 8, 2014 9:14 AM
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Does anyone know the name of song at 7:48?? please
Nov 8, 2014 9:23 AM

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TALK NO JUTSU!!!!!!!!
Nov 8, 2014 10:21 AM

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I just don´t know what problem you have with the animation. But the rest was really boring. Most of this episode was in the prevous ones...
Nov 9, 2014 2:03 AM
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TALK NO JUTSU. I haven't read the manga, but I swear it feels like Naruto is going to end with less of an amazing fight and more of a friendship, feelings lecture that goes on for 10 episodes, where he convinces Obito to come to the good side, with all of them crying and &%$%&^%$&^ Tables will be flipped if that's what happens.
Nov 9, 2014 3:40 PM

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All this Talk no Jutsu reminds me of Star trek: Deep space 9 ending.

Obviously, spoilers XD
Nov 10, 2014 7:02 AM

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"The one who had the same dream as me ." Histories exactly alike ~
Childhood memories of the beloved times ~ !!
Pretty Great Chapter !!! Reminiscing Nostalgia ~ !!
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Nov 10, 2014 12:28 PM
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This episode rates 4/5 for me. There's nothing wrong with showing that two opposing forces are actually quite similar. Have no fear, I'm sure there'll be more action at some point.
Nov 12, 2014 8:03 AM
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this is awesome..obitos narutos life are very similar i think on thing though at least the girl he liked rin is very caring worrying considerate fried to obito on the other hand SAKURA is horrible to naruto always was calling him names ignoring him wow!

I LOVE RIN ! I THINK AFTER TSUNADE AND HINATA SHE IS MY FAVORITE. RINS KINDNESS FOR OTHER IS VERY ADDICTING I FELT SO SORRY TO SAY GOOD BYE TO SUCH A GENUINELY GOOD PERSON :3 i feel OBITOS pain :3

ALSO i have to mention this in the previous episode everyone had the nine tails cape thing that glows yellow i gotta say this it only suites for naruto and his dad minato .... :3 naruto looks epic others look well...awkward ! :3
Nov 13, 2014 8:41 AM

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The animation quality on flashbacks were so cheap
Nov 13, 2014 1:03 PM

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I'm sorry but just can't get emotional about Obito can we please see Madara now.
Nov 15, 2014 7:08 AM

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Rin seemed out of place the whole time idk y

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But my feels.
Nov 16, 2014 2:25 AM

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Boy Kakashi really was an ass wasn't he?
Dec 1, 2014 12:09 PM

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Boy Kakashi really was an ass wasn't he?

That's right...
Dec 1, 2014 7:39 PM
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I always feel sad about Rin. She was a great character.
Dec 7, 2014 4:32 AM

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Well it's flashback time again and this time it was for the full episode. Though we didn't really learn something new, we knew already that Kakashi was a genius and Obito was jealous before. Basically this episode nothing happened...
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i like to watch flashbacks with obito, rin and kakashi, but seriously the animation throughout this episode..........
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