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| The old battle OST <3 Klein is like me, even if it's an obvious trap, I still need to save the NPC. |
| Man talk about deja vu, that felt like season 1. Very nice. |
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| what happen to the last part of ending? It just cut off... am i the only one? |
| The little action that was there was really good. The story was boring, the dialog (oni-chan) cringe-worthy. Really, when there are so many characters it just becomes a mess; everyone gets a bit of screen time and no one stands out. Kirito x girl is more enjoyable than Kirito x 10 girls at once. |
| Fight scene + Swordland = Pure awesomeness They kinda rushed the Minotaur fight scene though... IT'S A TRAP! |
iPinoyOct 25, 2014 1:07 PM
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elior1 said: i was reading this legend and it going to backfire at them big time DO you have short summary on the legend of this tale lol ? Or if anyone else does that would be great. |
| The OST was so good. Great Episode. |
| See SAO, unadulterated action and an epic fantasy plot don't require much. Some ACTUAL team work, some comedy, in-between exposition about your "game mechanics" which are there for convenience. Just remove Yui and Kirito and this would be perfectly serviceable. |
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| The nostalgia was good, but the episode wasn't anything special. Nevertheless, it wasn't bad, and i actually looked up the legend. Wonder who'll get Excalibur - hey, maybe it won't be the obvious choice. I'd totally save that Freyja girl, but only for the sake of completion. Klein had other things in mind... little does he know it actually is a trap. Yes, i got spoiled... 3/5. "Swordland" <3 |
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| The hell? That giant wants to marry the tiny Freyja? He even says he has something "in store for her". I don't what to think about what they could possibly do together. |
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| Wow this arc is going njust faster than I imagined. I liked the action I this episode and I'm hyped for next weeks boss fight! |
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| Fight scene was excited but overall kinda boring. |
| these characters take this game way too seriously. It's not like SAO or GGO where there was actually a threat of dying or anything. Also, am I the only one who finds it annoying that Asuna went from one of the main attackers in SAO to a background healer in ALO? Don't get me wrong, healing is great, but why Asuna? I know she did the final attack on the minotaur, but for the most part, she just stood back there and chanted a spell once. I would have preferred it if the healing job went to one of the less badass characters such as Sicila or Lizbeth (Heck, Sicila would have been perfect. that dragon of hers was a healer). I guess I'm just a littled irked that Asuna went from kickass swordsgirl to damsel in distress to praying for Kirito in GGO to a healer |
| I'd go with emobubbles, but someone else already had it, damn bastard. |
| Log Horizon raid was bettah.... well Log Horizon everything was better but thats not the point.... (well maybe not the Harem aspect, SAO wins that one ^.^ My god, boring bosses, boring raid, boring story. Stupid over-dramatisation..... The in game map will be destroyed! Suguha is like O_O noooooooo, such a shocker, damn, its almost as if their life is on the line...... GM can't restore the map because he aint got the backup? wut, well thats f***ing stupid. What kind of company doesn't backup everything in case of failures? That stupid little b**** is annoying. A GM should ban Kirito for hacking an item in which is Yui. Sinon is finally degraded to a background harem member..... well to be fair she gets buttcrack shots so she's more important than some of the others. Damn I hate Harem anime like this :l I nearly slept through the entire episode. Well I guess imma watch a real MMORPG anime instead of SAO which masquarades itself as an MMO anime but it ain't. Its a generic fantasy setting with rare MMO references.... |
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| Sword of Fire and Ice! That's what his fighting reminded me of xD  I like that they made more sword fights again as well as sword skills coming back, but I feel like it's not as epic as normally. Maybe because it's a short arc. |
| Holy crap... so that cardinal system can destroy the entire map when the time comes :o Kirito and the gang had a little bit of trouble with minotaur, but they concentrated their attacks and killed it, Kirito looked like a true badass with his sword skills... okay okay, everyone looked badass XD. Deja vu level: BADASS! Klein found a girl that he likes... a trap everyone says... hmmm... So the NPCs name is Freyja and her MP is so high, which makes her a mage. Dem buffs by Freyja doe... Since they kept repeating "trap" don't tell... Freyja's actually a guy... Now that's quite the giant last boss to be honest. I can't wait to see how their fight is going to pan out next episode. |
| "Let justice be done, though the heavens fall." |
| I guess I liked them visiting a dungeon again and it was interesting seeing the new sword abilities (although I think Starburst stream was better, the fire and ice effects were nice...) Still, the quest storyline is too stupid for me to actually care about anything and well, as good as that battle soundtrack is, it gets repetitive after a while. |
| 5 main aspects I base my ratings on: 1. Did DramaEnthusiast make a thread about it? 2. Is it better than Breaking Bad? 3. Did MellowJello recommend the shit out of it? 4. Has it caused a (very entertaining) shitstorm on MAL? 5. Is it actually good? Scratch the fifth point, it's not very relevant... |
AppoX said: Log Horizon raid was bettah.... well Log Horizon everything was better but thats not the point.... (well maybe not the Harem aspect, SAO wins that one ^.^ Okay we start with obligatory trollbait. Okay. My god, boring bosses, boring raid, boring story. Stupid over-dramatisation..... The in game map will be destroyed! Suguha is like O_O noooooooo, such a shocker, damn, its almost as if their life is on the line...... GM can't restore the map because he aint got the backup? wut, well thats f***ing stupid. What kind of company doesn't backup everything in case of failures? That stupid little b**** is annoying. GMs have no control over this. The thing that should be restoring and backing it up is the thing that is doing the damage now. The AI/system that created the quest. We met Cardinal System in SAO already when it tried to erase Yui. And yes. An AI system growing capable to self-consciously design something that destroys an entire world(albeit virtual) is danger-worthy. Sinon is finally degraded to a background harem member..... well to be fair she gets buttcrack shots so she's more important than some of the others. another trollbait. Its not like she has shown to be very useful in this fight or something~ Damn I hate Harem anime like this :l I nearly slept through the entire episode. Well I guess imma watch a real MMORPG anime instead of SAO which masquarades itself as an MMO anime but it ain't. Its a generic fantasy setting with rare MMO references.... And we finish with a big trollbait of conclusion. 6/10 would not bite the bait again. |
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Smartninja said: Klein does know she's only an NPC, right? :P Kirito and Asuna's daughter is a program that monitored emotions in SAO and is navigation pixie in ALO. Everything is possible in VRMMOs :o |
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| Very good episode. Enjoyed this compared to last week. Cant wait to see the final boss fight its going down. 5/5 |
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| Yeee Klein my man finally doing it big. Boss at the end looked good, hope the fight is epic next week, not Kirito solos him. |
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| Lmao Klein~ xD Skill connect gives me second thoughts :/ So what happened to Kirito's Dual wielding? |
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CookingPriest said: AppoX said: Log Horizon raid was bettah.... well Log Horizon everything was better but thats not the point.... (well maybe not the Harem aspect, SAO wins that one ^.^ Okay we start with obligatory trollbait. Okay. My god, boring bosses, boring raid, boring story. Stupid over-dramatisation..... The in game map will be destroyed! Suguha is like O_O noooooooo, such a shocker, damn, its almost as if their life is on the line...... GM can't restore the map because he aint got the backup? wut, well thats f***ing stupid. What kind of company doesn't backup everything in case of failures? That stupid little b**** is annoying. GMs have no control over this. The thing that should be restoring and backing it up is the thing that is doing the damage now. The AI/system that created the quest. We met Cardinal System in SAO already when it tried to erase Yui. And yes. An AI system growing capable to self-consciously design something that destroys an entire world(albeit virtual) is danger-worthy. Sinon is finally degraded to a background harem member..... well to be fair she gets buttcrack shots so she's more important than some of the others. another trollbait. Its not like she has shown to be very useful in this fight or something~ Damn I hate Harem anime like this :l I nearly slept through the entire episode. Well I guess imma watch a real MMORPG anime instead of SAO which masquarades itself as an MMO anime but it ain't. Its a generic fantasy setting with rare MMO references.... And we finish with a big trollbait of conclusion. 6/10 would not bite the bait again. That actually seems really scary lol. An AI that knows how to destroy things on its own. Question is why did it generate this quest in the first place ? Is the AI feeling threatened by the players or something ? The cardinal system is part of the seed right but why is ALO the only game to fully use it instead of a stripped down version of the seed like other games ? |
CookingPriest said: Okay we start with obligatory trollbait. Okay. My God, I criticise an anime and instantly I am a troll -,-. Well I used to like SAO, well I didn't consider it exceptionally good. But good entertainment noneless. But then the SAO arc ended and the author started milking it for money... Now I just watch it to have something to talk about with friends, and comedic value of course. CookingPriest said: GMs have no control over this. The thing that should be restoring and backing it up is the thing that is doing the damage now. The AI/system that created the quest. We met Cardinal System in SAO already when it tried to erase Yui. And yes. An AI system growing capable to self-consciously design something that destroys an entire world(albeit virtual) is danger-worthy. Oh come on, GMs/admins that have no control over their own game? -,- You telling me some self-conscious AI has more powers over the game than the developers themselves? Ok Cardinal system is for restoring and backing up data. But come on, they should have manual backups in case the cardinal system breaks up.... It shouldn't be a surprise a random quest/area generating AI with powers over virtually everything in the game could do something undesirable and would need fixing. They should have methods of fixing it.... I know its sci-fi but the admins should at least prepare for a problem that was likely to happen sooner or later. (well maybe not at such a large scale) CookingPriest said: another trollbait. Its not like she has shown to be very useful in this fight or something~ Well I didn't intentionally 'trollbait'. I use this site extensively to critique things and say things that piss me off about certain anime. Should I word it a lot friendlier and say "Sinon doesn't get enough screen time anymore. She isn't as important as she used to be...."? though thats an understatement. And her helping in the fight was basically just 5 second long scene of her shooting an arrow. (well I was half asleep so I might've missed something else...) CookingPriest said: And we finish with a big trollbait of conclusion. 6/10 would not bite the bait again. Well sorry to disappoint you. But 6/10 sounds reasonable. More than I'd rate SAO objectively looking at it..... |
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T3hSource said: See SAO, unadulterated action and an epic fantasy plot don't require much. Some ACTUAL team work, some comedy, in-between exposition about your "game mechanics" which are there for convenience. Just remove Yui and Kirito and this would be perfectly serviceable. TBH action dragged on in that one fight for me. Still this Arc has been good though I think I would still take the Aincrad arc over this despite its choppy pacing. AppoX said: Oh come on, GMs/admins that have no control over their own game? -,- You telling me some self-conscious AI has more powers over the game than the developers themselves? Ok Cardinal system is for restoring and backing up data. But come on, they should have manual backups in case the cardinal system breaks up.... It shouldn't be a surprise a random quest/area generating AI with powers over virtually everything in the game could do something undesirable and would need fixing. They should have methods of fixing it.... I know its sci-fi but the admins should at least prepare for a problem that was likely to happen sooner or later. (well maybe not at such a large scale) Read more at http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1295299&show=60#LbxLJBe9poslE1jS.99 The problem is that the creators of ALfheim Online (or rather the remade version of it) did actually not build it from scratch. They built it off the engine which is called the 'seed' as given to Kirito at the end of the first series, which was later distributed for free. While it is unclear how exactly the seed system works what is clear is that games designed on it have to follow its VR rules. In this case, Alfheim can only back up character data not world data. One of the key features of the seed is that AI is allowed to run unhindered as it is the core of its AI programming basics. Hopefully that make sense and if not think about it as in terms of a computer. Yes, your computer can crash and you can back up your data but if your core breaks down (hard drive), then you are hooped. Yes, in both cases they/you could simply rebuild everything however the likelihood of getting everything the same is low to near impossible. Do you think you could rearrange everything back to the way it was if your harddrive cut out? Personally, I have 3 TB of data which I would be extremely pissed to lose and acquiring everything again would be a pain. |
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| I could cry listening to SAO's main theme :s So much nostalgia! Kirito being the boss, as always =D This scene was almost a rip-off of the scene where Kirito almost died against the other monster in Aincrad :p Pretty interesting episode. |
| Was a great episode, lol'ed at Klien as he ignored everyone's warnings but in the end it did pay off with a temp hp boost for the big show down, only time will tell how bad a trap it really was though. |
| Well, nothing unexpected there. It's sort of staring to remind me of the first season. |
| I am very very pleased by how very few things SAO 2 has skipped from the LN. I'm just surprised this Arc was 3 episodes instead of 2, considering the next one is much longer than Excalibur. |
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Caleb8980 said: Bomb2chest said: That actually seems really scary lol. An AI that knows how to destroy things on its own. Question is why did it generate this quest in the first place ? Is the AI feeling threatened by the players or something ? The cardinal system is part of the seed right but why is ALO the only game to fully use it instead of a stripped down version of the seed like other games ? Well Cardinal follows Inet trends and lore and generates quests out of it while only changing some parts so that players can interact with the story themselves. The basics of the story are intact for recognition value. This obviously has merits and disadvantages. The upside is that the system can come up with new quests on its own without having anybody thinking about those all the time (plus implementing them, bugtesting, etc.) . This is important as ALO is not run by a big company as it was before but privately by only a few people (they formed a small company called Ymir). After what happened with Sugou no big company would like to touch ALO for years until the storm surrounding it calms down. The downside is shown during this quest, Cardinal can actually destroy ALO if it gets a "bad" input. As for why only ALO uses it in its full form is simply for gameplay reasons. Cardinal was originally developed for SAO (the game, before it became a death trap), hence it has a good affinity to roleplaying games. On the other hand things like quest creation wouldn't make that much sense in GGO e. g., a PvP (mostly) and PvE (secondary) game without real quests. Thanks a lot of that makes sense. One last question though. What would cause the Cardinal to generate a bad quest or a bad input ? |
T3hSource said: See SAO, unadulterated action and an epic fantasy plot don't require much. Some ACTUAL team work, some comedy, in-between exposition about your "game mechanics" which are there for convenience. Just remove Yui and Kirito and this would be perfectly serviceable. Yep. This is the Sword Art Online I actually like. No bullshit, no drama, no female characters being useless and/or getting molested. Just the characters going through the levels, taking down enemies. The rest of the series should have been like this. And it's always good to see Klein. |
Bomb2chest said: Caleb8980 said: Well Cardinal follows Inet trends and lore and generates quests out of it while only changing some parts so that players can interact with the story themselves. The basics of the story are intact for recognition value. This obviously has merits and disadvantages. The upside is that the system can come up with new quests on its own without having anybody thinking about those all the time (plus implementing them, bugtesting, etc.) . This is important as ALO is not run by a big company as it was before but privately by only a few people (they formed a small company called Ymir). After what happened with Sugou no big company would like to touch ALO for years until the storm surrounding it calms down. The downside is shown during this quest, Cardinal can actually destroy ALO if it gets a "bad" input. As for why only ALO uses it in its full form is simply for gameplay reasons. Cardinal was originally developed for SAO (the game, before it became a death trap), hence it has a good affinity to roleplaying games. On the other hand things like quest creation wouldn't make that much sense in GGO e. g., a PvP (mostly) and PvE (secondary) game without real quests. Thanks a lot of that makes sense. One last question though. What would cause the Cardinal to generate a bad quest or a bad input ? Well.. I can't give a good explanation and I'm not even sure if this is the right answer for your 'last question' but... The Cardinal simply make quests by Travelling the network, gaining information on legends, while changing it a bit so the players can feel that they are part of the legends. Wheter it is good or bad, the Cardinal is not in fault, afterall it's not a human. It merely do its work of making quests from collected infomation. Basically, the answers is the information it gains. You understand? If not, please read more about Norse Mythologies. |
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| I think it's funny to see everyone be like "Oh, Klein is hitting on a girl... how can he? It's a definitly a trap!" standing there... as Kirito's harem squad... because god forbid anyone besides Kirito liking a girl or a girl liking someone else than Kirito. |
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Michael5191 said: Bomb2chest said: Thanks a lot of that makes sense. One last question though. What would cause the Cardinal to generate a bad quest or a bad input ? Well.. I can't give a good explanation and I'm not even sure if this is the right answer for your 'last question' but... The Cardinal simply make quests by Travelling the network, gaining information on legends, while changing it a bit so the players can feel that they are part of the legends. Wheter it is good or bad, the Cardinal is not in fault, afterall it's not a human. It merely do its work of making quests from collected infomation. Basically, the answers is the information it gains. You understand? If not, please read more about Norse Mythologies. So essentially the quest is not bad in the AI eyes but it just happened to be a random quest that can be bad ? If so that makes sense seeing as if they fail the the game land will be destroyed and if they pass the game land is safe. |
| "Listen to what Yui says." This is clearly bullshit now. How come their party have an advantage of having an administrator-type person on their side telling them shit like weaknesses and back-story? On a side note, Klein was the star in this episode. Not that I'm complaining, I'm tired of Kirito taking all the glory anyways. |
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Shiba- said: "Listen to what Yui says." This is clearly bullshit now. How come their party have an advantage of having an administrator-type person on their side telling them shit like weaknesses and back-story? On a side note, Klein was the star in this episode. Not that I'm complaining, I'm tired of Kirito taking all the glory anyways. She's no different from raid addons that give timers and stuff. In fact, in ALO you can actually get such assistant fairies, but obvious those won't be AIs. |
Rinth said: Yes, but isn't is as clear as day that Yui doesn't behave and act like the other assistant fairies?Shiba- said: "Listen to what Yui says." This is clearly bullshit now. How come their party have an advantage of having an administrator-type person on their side telling them shit like weaknesses and back-story? On a side note, Klein was the star in this episode. Not that I'm complaining, I'm tired of Kirito taking all the glory anyways. She's no different from raid addons that give timers and stuff. In fact, in ALO you can actually get such assistant fairies, but obvious those won't be AIs. I just can't possibly see such fairies exist like Yui in that game.. |
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| I'm so happy people are using the wikia :) On another note Yui is what is considered a Top-Down AI, this becomes a key difference after MR arc but that isn't important for now. |
| Another awesome episode continuing from the last episode which I also liked. It ended right before the boss battle so it's gonna be hard to wait for the next episode but at least I'm excited about the next episodes of this anime again, I wasn't excited for the next episodes during the first cour of this season. |
Shiba- said: Rinth said: Yes, but isn't is as clear as day that Yui doesn't behave and act like the other assistant fairies?She's no different from raid addons that give timers and stuff. In fact, in ALO you can actually get such assistant fairies, but obvious those won't be AIs. I just can't possibly see such fairies exist like Yui in that game.. Of course not. When Yui was first summoned into ALO in season 1, she said she's disguising herself as an assistant fairy. What a normal assistant fairy can still do though is provide raid messages & boss timers like raid addons in real world MMOs. dim100 said: I'm so happy people are using the wikia :) On another note Yui is what is considered a Top-Down AI, this becomes a key difference after MR arc but that isn't important for now. The difference between a top-down AI and a bottom-up AI is quite interesting by itself. |
RinthOct 25, 2014 4:46 PM
| This is retarded. Am i supposed to care if a game map is destroyed? ITS A G A M E fuck outta here with that shit. This anime is going down the drain please no season 3. And CookingPriest and others out here in another thread telling me how great this half will be.. Lmao |
-Resident- said: CookingPriest said: In before anime secondaries calling this "filler" and missing obvious foreshadowing and build-up everywhere. Funny thing is, I find this mini-arc to be the most enjoyable one yet, when compared to the rest (anime-wise). It doesn't take itself overly serious, focuses on game mechanics, teamplay and worldbuilding. That's all SAO should have been about, in my humble opinion anyway. Add in the norse mythology to the mix and you've got yourself an enjoyable experience. Sad to see that it's so short. I hope i'll at least enjoy the next one. My feelings exactly. I love when they focus on the game! |
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| Fucking boring once again |
| Nice episode. That combo attack at the start was great. Lol at Klien falling for the girl and everyone saying its a trap. Time to fight Thrym. This is going to be tough. |
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