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| Riza Hawkeye is Colonel's sensei's daughter... Whaaaa... Small world.. Riza: You(Edward) love her(Winry). Ed:Phhheeeew..... Great scene Invading Ishbal...Empire Strikes Back. |
| Great to finally hear the history in detail. I like that Kar98k with the ZF-41 scope, but it's strange that a gun designed in 1935 is present in the era this series takes place. Hawkeye saying, "I'll follow you into Hell if you ask me to." Haha, it's love! |
Yasu-kunSep 26, 2013 4:42 PM
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| Riza's tatoo looks very important. Nice back too! Seriously now, this episode really exposes how the Ishvalan War was nothing but genocide. And Roy Mustang will make sure that everyone involved has to pay for it. Including it seems himself. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| Not as strong as it was in the manga |
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"Urushibara Ruka. The mannerisms and voice of a woman... No... More feminine than any woman. But he's a guy. Taller than Mayuri, but so very thin... But he's a guy. Looks great in a miko outfit... But he's a guy. It's already twilight And yet, it's so hot. The cicadas are crying. But... He's a guy." |
| even in the middle of war and despair.. Hughes managed to pull something like that... damn lol. I don't know but I now hate May.... shes into Ed first but now shes into Al? doesn't matter if shes a kid. a bitch is a bitch. shes still cute tho |
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| ^ Abusing the word "bitch" I see. Did Al just got himself a girl there? Wow, "VENGEANCE" So now Marcoh is dead. |
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| I couldn't help but notice that Ed's character art has been changing this whole time. He looked so different while talking to Hawkeye compared to how childish he looked right at the start of the anime. |
| Pirates are evil? The Marines are righteous? These terms have always changed throughout the course of history! Kids who have never seen peace and kids who have never seen war have different values! Those who stand at the top determine what's wrong and what's right! This very place is neutral ground! Justice will prevail, you say? But of course it will! Whoever wins this war becomes justice! - Doflamingo |
| Isn't that tattoo on Riza's back the same as the tattoo on Scar (and his brother)? The Ishbal extermination is really disturbing. I really can't help but feel disgusted and angered every time they show it. Wrath needs to be skinned alive and dipped in concentrated lemon juice. |
"May those who accept their fate be granted happiness." "May those who defy their fate be granted glory." |
| I was annoyed at Ed's reaction to Riza's hint that they would eventually be held accountable for their actions. He seemed so shocked and rather immature - "they're the good guys, they shouldn't be punished!" They are good people but they slaughtered civilians. Genocide. War crimes. Ed's reactions are sometimes over the top and childish because he thinks in black and white. It's true that the Homunculi triggered it, but did they pull every trigger themselves? I like how Riza kept repeating they had to remember those they've killed. And I love Roy's end game because it's pretty poignant and I hope it actually happens. Rise to the top to take it down. He wants to give the people enough power to punish him. Marcoh's blown off head A+ ending |
NinahJun 10, 2014 9:49 PM
| I feel sorry for the Ishbal people. They were murdered and used as test subjects for the fucking Philosopher's stone. Fuck you Wrath. Burning in hell is too good for you. |
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| Some good background on the war. |
| "Let Justice Be Done!" My Theme Fight again, fight again for justice! |
| I love Riza and Roi and I would most probably cry if they died, but they -and who ever participated in Ishbal- DO deserve to die. A proper anime for me would finish it by killing them. I mean I get they are ordered to do so, but there is always a quit option isn't it? How different they are from Scar? If not even worse. |
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| So we get the backstory, this time things are a bit different then in the 2003 version. I like this one better. |
PrimeX said: even in the middle of war and despair.. Hughes managed to pull something like that... damn lol. I don't know but I now hate May.... shes into Ed first but now shes into Al? doesn't matter if shes a kid. a bitch is a bitch. shes still cute tho lmao xDD |
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| Interesting backstory, it was interesting to see that Riza's dad was Mustang's master in learning alchemy and see how they met and became such close allies (along with Hughes). Kimball seems like he would be a tough enemy.. I wonder what happened to him? Also, the scene at the end of Mei telling Al she hopes he gets his body back soon was pretty funny |
| It was nice to see Riza's dad and how he was important for Roy. I am curious about Riza's back, I don't remember it in the original. Haha it was fun when Riza told Ed that he loves Winry :D It was good to see the Ishval's war. |
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| Gosh! The episodes last for too little! Narration very calm and subdued to revive interest, we think the backstory that lie behind each character, I'm curious to find out more about the character of Rize. Excellent soundtrack. |
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| As a non manga reader and first watcher of FMAB every episode is so different and interesting compared to the normal FMA. The really terrible thing about this episode is that this art of war also exists here in real life. Exactly like this people die. So it's extemely realistic what I really like about this episode. Haha Ed blushed when Rize asked him if he loves Winry, cuuuuute :D That tattoo on Rizes back is the secret about the flame Alchemy right? Also interesting to see that her father was Mustangs master. It was nice to learn a lot more about Rizes character/past. Holy shit the last scene at the end, vengeance written with the blood of Dr. Marcoh. PS: To see Hughes again made me pretty sad ;_ ; |
Natsu88Feb 4, 2016 7:35 PM
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| Man, I used to somewhat like Riza, but after this episode.... I'm so disappointed in so many characters at one time, I don't know how to watch it further. Scar seems like a nice guy comparing to Roi, Riza, Hughes and other soldiers. The guy has some reasons at least, unlike those who murder just because they got stupid orders. This cowardice, indifference and submission to someone's will makes my butt hurt a lot. And the moment when Hughes says that he fights in order to survive??? Duhhhhh gtfo. At least Armrstrong is still a nice guy (?). Nazi Germany parallels are truly on point in this anime. |
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| Seeing Hughes again hurts, talking about his wife ): |
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| Scar sure knows how to write vengeance in a cool way xD that was brutal but he deserved it. |
| I really liked Al at the end saying that he's much taller than Ed and that he's very different from him and Mei being like "aaaaaaa", I love those two! |
| I never connected Ishval with the Jewish until recently. Such strong ties to WW2 and I never noticed. |
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| im hopping on the riza x roy ship, they're cute hughes talking about his family made me a little sad though :( |
| Interesting. It was good to see more of the battle of Ishval after Alchemists entered it, although from what I read from the earlier posts, it was way more complex in the manga in terms of the plot. As anime-only viewer I must say I really liked this episode. It showed the tragedy of Ishvalians, doubts of many Alchemists and why that one particular Alchemist had such a powerful abilities (well, thanks to Philosopher's Stone as it was shown). I'm curious what is this scar on Riza's back and what's the meaning of it. Maybe it's the thing her father was talking about with Mustang right before dying? |
| Rize and Mustang having a pretty deep connection before they got in the military reminds me a lot of Edward and Winry's situation. Hawkeye and Marcoh gave their detailed perspectives of the Amestria-Ishval war and it sure was bloody and painfully one-sided back in the day. Since Barque was killed, Kimblee is definitely the biggest asshole that needs to face the conseauence of his services because it definitely looked like he had too much fun carrying out the mission. It seems that Roy's first order of business as the next Fuhrer President would be giving reparations to the Ishbalan people but doing so means that it won't end well for a lot of State Alchemists who participated in the operation. It looks like Marcoh got killed by Scar after he told him the grisly details surrounding the extermination of the Ishbalans. You can tell that he was really mad by how his whole head was blown up but the doctor probably wanted that as a sign of penance. |
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| Alphonse is a lover lol, great episode |
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| i don't usually read the other comments posted before posting my own but idk this time i did and it's a shame so much was skipped out from the manga! i thought this episode was decent but after realising how much backstory was missed i do feel a little disappointed. but i'm trying to judge this show based on the show, not how well it is adapted, so this was a perfectly functional episode imo anyhow here are some of my thoughts: nice to see that mustang has been so dedicated to his cause since a young age, he's very idealistic oooh riza's back tattoo!! must be her father's teachings. and nice to see more focus on riza herself i often forget, amongst all the badassery he does, that ed is still so young and insecure about himself and carries so much guilt for everything that happens to everyone the ishbalan massacre is so ruthless, they don't hold back much. and each time, they show another aspect of it, such as a different character reacting or fighting, which makes it even more brutal hughes! love that guy! but interesting placement of his conversation with roy about gracia, they are talking about their future beyond the war when the military has effectively ended the future of ishbal kimblee is such an unhinged character, i hate him but i love seeing him act so wild and with so much abandon compared to mustang etc al being his own hype man at the end yes you go son! scar killed marcoh!! that was gruesome |
| A powerful and pretty sad episode, that whole war thing is really familiar of something that happened in real life if I'm not mistaken |
| More about the Ishval war is known a little from the perspectives of Riza and Dr. Marcoh in this episode. It felt like something was missing, since it did feel a little too quick but I still found it solid nonetheless (although it definitely could have been a lot better). Especially seeing Roy and Riza when they were younger, and seeing how there were a lot of soldiers who were opposed to what was happening but still had to partake in it. We even see Kimblee use the philosopher stone to take out a massive number of Ishvalans too sadistically. Seeing Riza try to push Edward forward was a nice moment too. |
| Finally, Roy, Hughes and Rize's perspective on the war. I was really waiting for this answer. |
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| great flashback of Riza, Mustang, and Hughes glad Dr. Marcoh is dead so he can't be used of now okay next. |
| "All this destruction, for what purpose? All that's left is sand." What a powerful statement by Mustang. I thought it was a powerful image when they were chatting on the field and you see the Ishvalan scarf bloodied just lying in the background. It made me think about the purpose of war, the reality of taking human life for the purpose of proving whose right, but who is really the winner? Watching them shoot unarmed Ishvalan was hard, and as equally hard watching the alchemist who transmuted the wall preventing them from escaping the gunfire. |
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| Politics are too one dimensional to enjoy other than "white military people are bad". If this had been going on since the creation of the government centuries ago, and the soldiers truly were affected by guilt, don't you think some of them would be smart enough to be suspicious of something going on? Or at least to resist orders that are clearly evil without any moral ambiguity? I'm also not understanding how all of these war related themes are relevant to Ed and Al getting the philosopher's stone and their bodies back. It honestly feels like bad political filler in an attempt to make the world seem interesting. There's literally no broader conflict, other than trying to work around their subborn beliefs (and the plot conveniently alters or retcons to support that), to cause them to rethink their morals or philosophy as they dig further into their mission. Fma 2003 easily beats this story in thematic depth I didn't like panda girl the first time I watched this but I dislike her even more now. This story needs more characters like King Bradley and Kimblee the fucking menaces they are |
| God this was such a bland episode. While I admire that Hawkeye is a strong female character who's competent at what she does, she's really boring as a character when it comes to conversations with anyone who isn't Mustang imo. The Scar scenes were slightly more interesting and so was Al's scene towards the end, but everything involving Hawkeye's flashback bored me to death. |
| Reading the earlier comments in this episode discussion thread, it looks like a lot of good stuff has been cut from the manga. Makes me sad that we didn't get any of that, but honestly, this episode was already pretty good before knowing that said content was cut. Maybe I felt like they could have expanded upon this backstory a bit more, but overall it still felt sufficient enough. I would like to look into what specifically was cut though, because there apparently are some pretty major character development scenes that would have enhanced the character writing and their relationships significantly. |
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