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Oct 11, 2009 1:46 AM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Messed up recap with spoilers....
And the OP switch happens on such shitty episode?

Probably the fact that op itself is shitty, does not help it.

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Oct 11, 2009 2:08 AM

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Darn, I didn't wake up to watch live streaming because usually fillers are crap (looks like I was right) but OP switch right now? I wanna watch new op~ BTW, is it true that ED is full of Winry (bleh) just like "Motherland" was in anime1?
 
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Oct 11, 2009 2:49 AM
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Alzea said:
Darn, I didn't wake up to watch live streaming because usually fillers are crap (looks like I was right) but OP switch right now? I wanna watch new op~ BTW, is it true that ED is full of Winry (bleh) just like "Motherland" was in anime1?

It has a shot of Lan Fan and May too, but the rest is Winry, yeah.
 
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Oct 11, 2009 2:51 AM
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Preferred the previous OP+ED, and this episode was really unnecessary
 
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Oct 11, 2009 3:08 AM

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I gave it a 3 simply because Olivier, Kimbley and
were in the OP.

Soo... I get my Ishbal flashback cut for this?( -_-*)
 
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Oct 11, 2009 3:09 AM

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Alzea said:
Darn, I didn't wake up to watch live streaming because usually fillers are crap (looks like I was right) but OP switch right now? I wanna watch new op~ BTW, is it true that ED is full of Winry (bleh) just like "Motherland" was in anime1?


new op visuals are exciting, although they spoil EVERYTHING that would come down in future chapters...yes even


It should have been better if they left the new op for next week...
 
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Oct 11, 2009 3:18 AM

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Ok, I've watched this episode and guess what - booooooooooooring~~! Really, this is not even a filler just recaps.

I liked OP, just because of Briggs part and maybe Ishvar, it was average I think, not the best one. ED was just simply crappy, I think this is the worst ED so far. Well, now I'm waiting for ep 30 -
I hope they won't mess it up - I've got a feeling that BONES has something against Riza so who knows...Still I hope they will do this right! They have to!
 
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Oct 11, 2009 4:05 AM

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Fai said:
new op visuals are exciting, although they spoil EVERYTHING that would come down in future chapters...yes even

It didn't seem to spoil too much for me, it was just more like "who the hell are they?"... I picked up on the first part in your spoiler tag, but nothing else.

The first time I heard the full version on the op 2-3 weeks ago, I disliked it. But, it has really grown on me, and I loved it even before I saw the animation. The animation was also top quality, and there was also a nice beat change that wasn't in the full version at one point.
 
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Oct 11, 2009 5:52 AM

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Season 2 intro, pretty nice....but all n' all i had no expectations for this episode because of the preview from the one before it. Even with that being said i was still dissapointed at best about this one, so far this is the only episode i disliked if i wanted to see a flashback episode i would rewatch previous ones. with any luck there won't be any more abortions like this one, it was like 15 min of flashbacks from previous episodes and 5 min of new information. Oh well I guess an episode that has eds dad in it needs to be alittle offbeat
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Oct 11, 2009 7:34 AM

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Haven't watched the full episode yet, just the intro, but damn...they're really giving a lot a way in that little thing. Briggs, Ishval, Ling, Kimblee, Father...Sheesh. I mean, it's amazing animation and I loved the Briggs part, but they should've waited a bit to put it up. At least like two episodes, certainly not on a filler. Intro song isn't even that good, and from what you guys are saying about the episode, the episode itself and the ending theme aren't all that great either.

And crap...another Winry filled ending? Why do they always put her in the end songs? x___x I mean, I like her character and all, but she's not as extremely important as some of the other characters are.
 
Oct 11, 2009 10:43 AM

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Ugh it was mainly recap and Hohenheim's dream wasn't even that interesting. Also a bad time for a new opening. I don't like either new songs that much, but at least Olivier looked badass as usual. I can't wait to hear who she'll have the voice of. Though now I have to wait another week for that great moment D:
 
Oct 11, 2009 11:25 AM

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Huh, a week? You meant another month xP Since we are getting Ishvar flashback with ep 30 so you know~

Right know I really hope that BONES will prove me wrong about them hating Riza. I mean she didn't get any eyecatch her appearance in this op are woah like 1 second and soon comes ep with her back story if they can mess this up I'll believe that they can mess up chapter 94 and animating chapter 100 will be pure joy for them -.-
 
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Alzea said:
Huh, a week? You meant another month xP Since we are getting Ishvar flashback with ep 30 so you know~
I'm actually referring to...
 
Oct 11, 2009 2:24 PM

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Wait... Hohenheim called that woman Pinako... isn't she meant to be Winry's grandmother, that short lady??? I'm confused...
This is Pinako: http://myanimelist.net/character/65/Pinako_Rockbell

EDIT: Oh, that's all in his mind. Serves me right for posting half way through an episode....
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Oct 11, 2009 2:39 PM

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Meh. First time ever i got disapointed in FMA:B. Probably because the series is so good.
But seriously though, the OP song was crap. So was the ED. :/

Psh. I'll give FMA a break, it was really amazing so far. At least it's not like Naruto ( GAWD. SAVE THE WORLD. UGH. ) -.-
 
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I am only one that loves the new OP? I think the song was good and animation had many good parts.
Well the whole episode was a pretty much a recap...glad it was only a dream..i want them to follow manga xD.

 
Oct 11, 2009 3:05 PM

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incredibly messed up recap ep (man last week's preview trailer is really misleading)

The new OP and ED fail. Well, parts of the OP animation is okay, but the song fails. The ED isn't that bad - it really is like motherland, full of Winry, but the new OP and ED switch in this recap ep? Really?

Just when I thought the remake is getting better, that I gave it a 5 last ep, they just had to do this. I'm beyond bemused...

good thing I have other anime to watch this weekend :(

 
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"That" is the reason I hate recap episode –_–
 
Oct 11, 2009 4:34 PM

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Aww, They seriously messed up with this episode. And they were on such a good streak too!
 
Oct 11, 2009 4:38 PM
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Animation was pretty awsum as always. I like the footage of the OP, not really the song, oh well, I skip over it every ep anyways so whad do I care? ED had way too much Winry >: where's Riza? RanFan wasn't thur much or May. D:

Recap eps usually happen so, it wasn't THAT bad of a recap, I guess. I've seen way worse ones.

Was too oddly filler-like but oh well, I still think BONES is doing a good job <3
 
Oct 11, 2009 5:09 PM

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First off what's up with that absolutely AWFUL opening, I really hope they won't use it any more times O.o

Quite messy and unnecessary recap, honestly I bet most of the peoples watching this anime already knows what is going to happen anyway.
The best part of this episode was when you got the see young Pinako and how much of a woman she was.
I mean did Hohenheim use alchemy on her and shrinked her? xD
 
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EternalDreamer said:

The best part of this episode was when you got the see young Pinako and how much of a woman she was.
I mean did Hohenheim use alchemy on her and shrinked her? xD


I was thinking that.... What does that say for Winry when she gets old? :-O
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Oct 11, 2009 7:22 PM

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Almost like a recap episode ... oh well .. look forward to the next episode x_x


 
Oct 11, 2009 8:35 PM
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Why that is one realistic, but screwed up dream.
 
Oct 11, 2009 9:08 PM

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Kind of sucks that it was a recap episode, but it was shown in such a way that it still made it somewhat exciting for me. The new stuff with Hohenheim was great and I can't wait until the next episode.

Unfortunately it's a sad day for me as there is a new OP and ED. The previous OP wasn't a favorite of mine but it was catchy with lots of action and got me excited for the show. The previous ED was just awesome and it's going to suck not having it perfectly fade into the last moments of the show anymore.

Lastly, what was the deal with Pinako? What happend that caused such a drastic change? It's like what happend to Cal in Phantom, but in reverse.
 
Oct 11, 2009 10:16 PM

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Boo. I was very bored with the recaps. :(
Next episode better be better. >:[
 
Oct 11, 2009 10:24 PM

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Well, now I'm waiting for ep 30 -
I hope they won't mess it up -


agreed. I would not want them to mess that up

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Oct 11, 2009 10:56 PM

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I seriously did not recognize that the person Hohenheim was talking to was Pinako Rockbell Looking forward to more back story's.
 
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messed up-......
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Oct 12, 2009 12:02 AM

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Didn't really like the new OP and ED >.>"


From a non-manga reader's viewpoint, the opening did show a bunch of new characters, there was like things I would never expect to see (a whole new continent in snow? Brand new enemies?! whoa lol) Kinda agree that the new OP should have been left for a few episodes later, not this pointless recap episode ><
 
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Even the recap of fullmetal are good. I liked the scenes of the new OP but did not like the music, the ED has been a little better, I loved the let it out then...
The relationship of Hohenheim and the "father" burns my brain, this episode seemed like a split personality >.< I hope this is explained in the next =x
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eghhh well that was disappointing to say the least.
 
Oct 12, 2009 3:29 AM

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This episode sucked compared to last week's epicness. I have no clue who the new characters are in the OP since I don't read the manga.
 
Oct 12, 2009 5:17 AM

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I'm going to jump on the bandwagon and agree that the music for the OP doesn't do the series justice. The animation for it is great and all, but the music leaves me feeling underwhelmed compared to what I see on my screen. I don't think it spoiled anything for me, a non-FMA-manga reader, because at this point, I have no idea who the hell anyone is (of course, except those who have already been introduced). The ED is ok - I don't have anything particularly against it, but I did like the previous EDs better.

As for the episode itself, I generally don't like recap episodes because they don't have much point. I'll give BONES points for trying to make it interesting by using a dream of Hohenheim's, but it was also a bit confusing. Hearing a young Pinako talk about the Elric brothers? Random flashbacks to random points in time in the series? It took me a while to catch on to the fact that it wasn't supposed to be straight-forward (since dreams often aren't) and that I was simply watching a recap episode with the recaps not in chronological order but grouped by theme.

Still, I'm disappointed that they went with a recap episode after having such a good streak going with the last few episodes =/
 
Oct 12, 2009 5:56 AM

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Recap episode, But still was decent.
Now can't wait for the next!
 
Oct 12, 2009 6:49 AM

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This episode was totally unnecessary.

The only thing I liked about this episode was the new OP, I skipped through
the rest :S.
 
Oct 12, 2009 7:10 AM

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i like the op but not the song ^^'
and it's just me or the rating has changed from PG-13 to R? :O
anyway, this episdoe was too confused and messed up... hohenheim sure have weird dream uh? :D
 
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Meh, not that good xP But I'll forgive, since FMA is the best anime running, so whatever.

Seriously a spoiler, don't go opening if you don't want to have an irresistible urge to drown yourself (and me) later XD And also, if you don't like swearwords. LOL.

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Oct 12, 2009 8:11 AM

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I love the new OP and ED. The last ones were so shitty.

Is Envy ever going to change back though?
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Oct 12, 2009 8:22 AM

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Augh! Spoiler opening! D< (<- is not pleased)

I'd have rated this episode a 1 if it weren't for the fact that it wasn't a traditional, chronological, "and then the hero did this" recap. Still, it sucked and now I have to wait for the next episode...
 
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I've been frustrated that Eclipse doesn't have this episode up yet (last week it went up Sunday night!), but from what I've read here, it doesn't seem like I'm missing much. I guess that would make two bad episodes for "Brotherhood" (this and the first one with the 'Freezing Alchemist').

And I'm not looking forward to a new OP - I loved the first one, and thought the second was "meh." IMO, "Again" should be the OP and "Let it All Out" the ED for the entire series. Both are perfect.
 
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i dont see reason for bitching and complaining so much, when this is so great series overall, sure ep of a recap spoiled a bit all the smooth run so far, but srsly its no such big deal, afterall it wasnt only recap just like that, there was a thought in it + there was unseen stuff from past either, i only dont understand how did all the flashback stuff could happen in hoenheims dream when he didnt experienced all that himself and two hoenheims? well i want to say that maybe there was more in this ep to think about than just a simple flashback? =/
did this happen in manga btw?

afterall anything is better than fillers..

and wtf ppl, OP & ED is great! =0
 
Oct 12, 2009 10:00 AM

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what the hell was that?! terrible
 
Oct 12, 2009 10:22 AM

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hehe for those confused bout 2 hoenheims dunt worry things will make sense soon enough =D

and dam that was one recap episode
i guess it's ok to have on per like 25 episodes to refresh the audience
 
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Cenedess said:


lol i totally agree x3

im going to disagree with everyone else and say that i luv the new OP and its waaaay better then the last one~ (first one beats all the others by far tho) and i think, for a recap ep, this wuz rly good =D
pple need to lighten up a little cuz we all knew it wuz gonna be a recap so if we didnt want to see it we wouldnt have to >.>

next ep plz~
 
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old OP and ED was better :/
 
Oct 12, 2009 10:42 AM

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4/5 The last 2 minutes were really epic
 
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Alzea said:
Ok, I've watched this episode and guess what - booooooooooooring~~! Really, this is not even a filler just recaps.

I liked OP, just because of Briggs part and maybe Ishvar, it was average I think, not the best one. ED was just simply crappy, I think this is the worst ED so far. Well, now I'm waiting for ep 30 -
I hope they won't mess it up - I've got a feeling that BONES has something against Riza so who knows...Still I hope they will do this right! They have to!


Ishvar backstory in cap 30? ive read the manga, but, how do you know that it will be in chap 30? did you calculate it? or is this official info?
 
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Least favorite episode of Brotherhood so far. The visuals on the new OP and ED are well done but I hate the songs, old ones were soo much better.
 
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I've been frustrated that Eclipse doesn't have this episode up yet (last week it went up Sunday night!)


They're probably doing the karaoke thingy for the new OP and ED, we should be patient xD

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Cenedess said:


lol i totally agree x3

Glad I'm not alone :D

And I don't think OP&ED are that bad. First ones were my favourites, but those will grow on us too :D
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