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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- What an episode, what a battle, it's finally getting to final stages...but wait a minute, is the Argama now suddenly fighting Axis? I know they destroyed the Titan's main stronghold but where's Scirocco and Yazan? They still have these guys to beat. Anyway ever since episode 44 this is getting really intense and exciting, with great losses from both sides, let's see where this all goes. |
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| A lot is going on and there are a lot of lose ends to fulfill in the next three episodes. I am definitely excited to see how this all turns out. |
| looks like axis don't have the expertise that zeon had, and the laser is now in the hands of AEUG |
the only way to stop a gamer from playing is either: beat them, or wait until they get bored (though 2% percent suffer seizures  |
| Since when is the AEUG fighting against the axis again? And why is Katz blaming Haman for Sarah's death? If anything it was his and Sciroco's fault... still the revelation of the year was that Kamille actually remembers he had a mother... wow... |
| That was a fun episode. I was expecting Katz to get blown up though. |
| A bit confusing, I don't really understand some people's actions here but I still loved this episode. I wonder who made Haman and Kamille hallucinate there.... |
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| I loled when Camille remembered his mom xD and when Bright explained the war strategy to the kids xD |
Veethorn said: ...but wait a minute, is the Argama now suddenly fighting Axis? I know they destroyed the Titan's main stronghold but where's Scirocco and Yazan? Alas86 said: Since when is the AEUG fighting against the axis again? And why is Katz blaming Haman for Sarah's death? sayami said: This. The writing in Zeta really doesn't make much sense at times. The story should be easy to follow but the mediocre execution makes it difficult. It's all over the place.A bit confusing, I don't really understand some people's actions here I very much don't like Katz. He should be constantly locked up in a cell on the Argama, so that he can't take off without permission ever again. |
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| Yeah i don't get why they are suddenly fighting Axis..and Katz...i like how he's blaming Haman when he was the one who killed her..why won't they lock him up or something? |
| Why is AEUG fighting Axis¿ |
| No clue why AEUG and Axis are fighting. I wonder who caused Haman and Camile to hallucinate. I found it funny how Haman saw herself with Char. |
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| Another Amazing episode!! Damn when the kids said to Kamille to be careful, i thought he was gonna die or something?? As always this stupid brat Katz once again ruins the episode. Seriously haven't you learned anything? And wtf is with the crew not monitoring their post?? This is like the 10th time someone launched without any permission. Really love Haman's design and voice :D Sakakibara, Yoshiko's voice is so gentle yet can be deadly at times ^^ I'm surprise Haman actually feels threaten, Though i don't know why Hamon doesn't know Kamille even though he was with him when they visited Mineva. Damn so they had another mind battle?? And yeah surprise that Kamille even remembered that he had a mother! So Hamon and Char used to be together? Where they lovers or just close relatives?? And yeah Kamille is going the same path Amuro had 7 years ago. I fear he'll end up the same as Amuro after this series T__T Last 3 episodes left!! I expect Rosamia and Reccoa and Hamon and Paptimus might die in the coming episodes T__T Can't wait for the finale!!! |
| This episode was a mess. No idea why they were fighting each other. Seemed last episode they were on peace terms. Other then just to do so? Most of the episode was some crazy mental trip. Katz blaming someone just to do so? |
| They still have Scirocco and his clique to deal with and they suddenly turn on Axis? I don't understand. At this point none of Katz's actions nor thought processes even remotely surprise me anymore: I just came to the conclusion that his brain suffers from permanent oxygen deprivation and it simply can't be helped. |
| Proud founder of The Official Anti-Ging Freecss Fan Club Join now! Kellhus said: GuusWayne said: there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat. |
| why is Katz blaming Haman for Sarah's death ? |
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Mroujeee said: because he's a fucking dumbass, that's why.why is Katz blaming Haman for Sarah's death ? |
| Proud founder of The Official Anti-Ging Freecss Fan Club Join now! Kellhus said: GuusWayne said: there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat. |
| It feels like there were some minutes left either at the end of the previous episode or beginning of this one. I'm happy they decided to fight the Axis/Zeon but this was so sudden, knowing Guru Paptimus is still out there and has taken control of the Titans left-overs. Haman and Camille basically violated each other's mind simply by standing "near" each other? Anyway, that was a pretty interesting result: Haman seems to have some undealt affection for Char (probably explored in this manga who features both of them on its cover) and Camille must face again what he tried to bury between other dramatic events (sad for him). I am sure the last part will be significant. I beared all the uncontrollable "sorties" until now but this time I was rather annoyed that Katz did it again. We are around the finale... it should not happen anymore in a time like this! Don't know why, but since a few episodes, I find the B.G.M. great. 4.5/5 What I thought around the eps39-40 seems even more likely to happen: I really don't see how they will give a sense of closure/ending for most of what they started. Or is the Axis so weak? What was this all about with giving a political role to Char and resurrecting his stupid vision as the official true "Zeonism heir"? @St0rmblade If you're interested, Zeonic Scanlation (the one-man website about Gundam materials) fully translated it. I read a few tomes and it felt more like some way to make money out of an untold period, it's very stretched in the beginning and indeed depicts a young and easy to influence Haman having some crush on our famous playboy). While being made by Zeta's second charadesigner (and single charadesigner of ZZ/CCA), it's not that good looking either. |
Rei_IIIJun 21, 2020 1:06 AM
| Great episode all around, looks like its time for all the deaths to commence 3 episodes left! |
| Crazy intense episode, really looking forward to see what the last 3 episodes will have to offer from this season! |
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stAtic91 said: This. The writing in Zeta really doesn't make much sense at times. The story should be easy to follow but the mediocre execution makes it difficult. It's all over the place. So much this. This show would have been much better if they had cut out at least a few of their sucky side characters and monster of the week battles and focused a little more on exploring the different factions and the political side of things. You can somewhat fill in the gaps, since Axis wanted to ally with the Titans again (why though?) And the only obstacle to it was Jamitov. With Jamitov dead, it was time for Axis to backstab yet another faction, this time the A.E.U.G. I don't know, Zeta like its predecessor keeps on pulling the same shit. We get a somewhat intriguing premise, a lot of characters that have no fucking clue what they're doing and why, a lot of monster of the week battles, that add nothing, because the strategic positions aren't explained to us at all. The thing is just downright terrible in the middle and now it picks up again towards the end, simply by killing off the characters it build up. Honestly fuck the writing of this show, it's just mediocre. |
Temujin26S said: BVerfG said: So much this. This show would have been much better if they had cut out at least a few of their sucky side characters and monster of the week battles and focused a little more on exploring the different factions and the political side of things. You can somewhat fill in the gaps, since Axis wanted to ally with the Titans again (why though?) And the only obstacle to it was Jamitov. With Jamitov dead, it was time for Axis to backstab yet another faction, this time the A.E.U.G. I don't know, Zeta like its predecessor keeps on pulling the same shit. We get a somewhat intriguing premise, a lot of characters that have no fucking clue what they're doing and why, a lot of monster of the week battles, that add nothing, because the strategic positions aren't explained to us at all. The thing is just downright terrible in the middle and now it picks up again towards the end, simply by killing off the characters it build up. Honestly fuck the writing of this show, it's just mediocre. How is the writing mediocre sure it has flaws but it made perfect sense why AEUG turned against Axis now, if they continued to leave Axis to continue what they were doing especially since they are winning the war, Axis would have a major trump card which is colony laser meaning more colony deaths eventually forcing Axis to eventually surrender. Seems like people on here don't pay attention. No offense but you gave Seed an 8 which is has which has major flaws and is the definition of mediocre writing don't get me started on Seed Destiny. Not that it matters but Seed's writing was a lot better than Zetas. Half the show in Zeta was pointless. Not that Seed's writing was anywhere close to perfect and - no offence - you have no clue why I rated Seed 8, so youre just throwing a borderline ad hominem in. Not to mention that you can clearly see that I havent even rated Destiny not to mention that flaws in Seed have fuck all to do with flaws in Zeta. But I'm not in this to convince anyone. I liked Seed and thought Zeta was bad. Deal with it, don't deal with it, it's your choice. |
| This episode is also fantastic, it seems that the best we have kept it last, better so! I would say that the rumor that hampered the plans of Haman and Kamille, is that of Lalah. Narratively was a pleasure to follow, although there are of déjà vu during armed confrontation, oh well! |
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| The battle between Kamille & Haman was good... Katz at this point haven’t grown up like I would have desired, he still making careless decision as opposed to MC. *Sigh* |
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| So episode 47 where Bright finally draws the line, for real this time. Katz and Fa have launched without orders so many times that I was right there with Bright and saying let them be a detraction. I have to mention that killed three mobile suits at the same time with three different shots. Might be some of the most ridiculous kills in Gundam so far. Kamille Bidan Kill Count: 3 Kill this episode 67 Kills total |
| Just remembered that Haman is voiced by Yoshiko Sakakibara, who'd later go on to play Frederica Greenhill in LOGH :3 Nice roles! Katz: "I'm the one who should avenge Sarah's death!" - How? By killing yourself? I like how everyone launches by announcing their name but that Botty guy didn't do it. Too unimportant of a character :P The battle with Haman was awesome. She had an affair with Char! So that's what this "Char's deleted affair" manga is about. Rei_III said: @St0rmblade If you're interested, Zeonic Scanlation (the one-man website about Gundam materials) fully translated it. I read a few tomes and it felt more like some way to make money out of an untold period, it's very stretched in the beginning and indeed depicts a young and easy to influence Haman having some crush on our famous playboy). While being made by Zeta's second charadesigner (and single charadesigner of ZZ/CCA), it's not that good looking either. Thanks for directing me towards it, I might look into this manga in the future. Though I'm not surprised that Char is used as a fanservice tool since he's so popular among fans. As for the designs, I like Yasuhiko's art better, would be interested in seeing his take on the events in CDA (or in Zeta). |
St0rmbladeJun 21, 2020 1:22 AM
| Is this someone's fanfiction? Did they got the wrong script and when they realised they were animating someone's fanfic it was too late? AEUG turns against Axis while the Titans haven't been yet defeated? Brain damage from cosmic radiation? Haman is suddenly 'evil' and Kamille cannot forgive her... Why exactly? He had no problems excusing and even helping Sarah multiple times for being a murderous cunt (remember - she blew up a part of Von Braun City) and excusing Reccoa for being a treacherous, genocidal bitch who gasses colonies... I guess Haman is the evil one cause she wears black. Now I get it! Overall, what a trip... That's why most shows from the 70s and 80s are simply unwatchable. |
| Its was a good episode but idk why the AEUG wants to fight Axis while the Titans are still around. Where are them now? Did they just suddenly disappear to pop up later? chi4ko said: Is this someone's fanfiction? Did they got the wrong script and when they realised they were animating someone's fanfic it was too late? AEUG turns against Axis while the Titans haven't been yet defeated? Brain damage from cosmic radiation? Haman is suddenly 'evil' and Kamille cannot forgive her... Why exactly? He had no problems excusing and even helping Sarah multiple times for being a murderous cunt (remember - she blew up a part of Von Braun City) and excusing Reccoa for being a treacherous, genocidal bitch who gasses colonies... I guess Haman is the evil one cause she wears black. Now I get it! Overall, what a trip... That's why most shows from the 70s and 80s are simply unwatchable. I think the same. Also its funny how Katz wants to kill Haman now and not Scirocco lol. |
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| The trippiness with Lalah were my favourite parts of MSG, so I found this episode cool in the same way. |
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| This episode makes literally zero sense. They were fighting the Titans last episode and drove them back, but now they're suddenly fighting Axis again? Why? Sure, we know that Haman is going to betray them again, but they don't know that. Hell, why does Kamille have a hate boner for Haman all of a sudden when they've barely if ever interacted up to this point? And why is Katz blaming Haman and not Scirocco for Sarah's death? And what even was that sequence when Kamille and Haman were fighting? Why are Newtypes powering up so drastically in these final few episodes? If your show is this confusing with so few episodes left, maybe you're just not a very good writer Tomino. |
| I liked this episode a bit more than the last few even though I'm really confused by some of the characters. Seeing the entire AEUG fleet attacking Gryps head on was super cool even if I really have no idea why they're fighting Haman all of a sudden (though at this point the writing has been so all over the place I don't even bother trying to keep everything straight). The newtype connection scene was interesting, showing how these new powers can connect people on a completely new and intimate level, even in the middle of war. Why is Katz randomly blaming Haman for Sarah's death though? (and why is he so attached to her in the first place when they had like 2 scenes together?) I also don't get why Kamille hates Haman all of a sudden and what the hell anyone really wants at this point. Haman honestly seems like the only character with a consistent personality and motivation in this shitshow and it's a shame they brought her in so late. Honestly, I'm really not sold on this show at all and I have to question the tastes of most Gundam fans if something this sloppily written and confusing is hailed as "peak UC." 0080 was better. |
Tekketsu_01Jul 31, 2023 3:03 AM
| please end fast, it has only become a convoluted mess |
''Touch the darkness inside me'' |
| Come on, Gundam Zeta... Last few episodes have been great both for their action and their political intrigue and now... this? AEUG fighting Axis, all of a sudden? I mean, we all know it was bound to happen... but just like that?? Whatever happened to all those careful political maneuvers and diplomacy we saw unfold? Whatever happened to Char swallowing his pride for the sake of diplomacy? And just like that, they're into battle? Come on, at least justify it in a way that makes sense... And Katz going against Haman, blaming her for Sarah's death, has no meaning whatsoever (but this is Katz we're talking about: almost nothing has any meaning when it comes to his character!) I just hope next episodes end the series on a high note. |
| Just like O.J., Katz won't rest until he finds Sarah's real killer. |
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