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Jul 29, 2014 8:50 AM
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In cooperation with 15 major anime production companies and manga publishers, the Japanese government will next month start a huge extermination operation against foreign sites which have illegally uploaded anime and manga contents on the web without the copyright holders' permission, NHK reported on July 28th. While the government has started supporting the genre as one of their important cultural exports, there appears to be no end of illegal uploading of anime and manga via pirate sites, mainly operated by Chinese. The Cultural Affairs Agency estimates the loss caused by the Chinese pirate sites last year was amounted to at least 560 billion yen (about US$ 5.5 billion).

On August 1st, the government will start simultaneously sending requests to delete illegal anime and manga contents to the operators of the 580 foreign pirate sites which they have found. In addition, the operation will launch a new site to guide the fans to a legitimate site offering some 250 titles including the latest ones at a cost of several hundred yen.

Official Manga-Anime Guardians site: http://manga-anime-here.com/

Source: NHK News

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Update July 30
METI (Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry) has published a press release stating 500 manga works and 80 anime works are being targeted, not websites. The press release includes a PowerPoint that contains an actual list of websites they are targeting. Included are scanlation sites (slides 11-12), fansub upload websites (slides 13-15), direct download websites (slide 16), torrent sites (slides 17-18), and redistribution websites (slides 19-20).

Source: METI press release
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Jul 29, 2014 8:56 AM
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Yoooooooooo
It sounds like they are focusing mainly on Chinese sites.... but dangggg...

I'm going to miss my typeset if this does go through.

Also as a mod note:
Please do not let this thread be solely on the legality of piracy.
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Ahahaha

Yeah, good luck with that, Japan. I'm sure China will give lots and lots of fucks.

Seriously though- I can see where our Asian friends are coming from. And looking at some of the sites on the net (mangapanda for example) I'd gladly see them get their asses handed to them. But there's also hundreds of manga and anime out there that will never, NEVER be localized, making it virtually impossible for non-Japanese readers to get a hold of them.
Anyway, like I said, this will go nowhere. Or maybe be temporarily successful, only to be deemed a futile attempt some time later.
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Okay. Good luck with that, Japan.
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No thanks, I'm not paying until a specific anime is offered (and it won't happen and it will just be for that anime only if it did). Also, It also won't really stop piracy, they are far too late. Another thing, I can see the site getting a region lock (there's zero mention of a region lock, but this is Japan we are dealing with, region lock is something that's shouldn't be ruled out).


 
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Hoppy said:
No thanks, I'm not paying until a specific anime is offered (and it won't happen and it will just be for that anime only if it did). Also, It also won't really stop piracy, they are far too late. Another thing, I can see the site getting a region lock (there's zero mention of a region lock, but this is Japan we are dealing with, region lock is something that's dealt with on a daily basis).

They'd be cutting their own flesh if they did somehow manage to stop illegal distribution of manga and anime. Why do they think "one of their important cultural exports" has become so immensely popular? The Internet served as the best possible promotion those two mediums could ever get.

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Yoooooooooo
It sounds like they are focusing mainly on Chinese sites.... but dangggg...

I'm going to miss my typeset if this does go through.

Also as a mod note:
Please do not let this thread be solely on the legality of piracy.

Might as well close it then, pal.

Let the people have some fun first. And once the topic eventually switches to Nazis (it always does somehow), close it.
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old anime is better than new anime anyway
 
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It'll be like taking 1 down, 5 more pops up in its place. Good freaking luck.
 
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brb gonna download my whole plan to watch list...


Or not. I doubt this will affect my anime watching in any way.
 
Jul 29, 2014 9:14 AM
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I can just always fly to Japan to grab some merchandise. The only fall back is the travel cost >.>
If they would just localize a decent number of series here in my country or at least in NA (so I can ask my cousin to buy for me), I'll be satisfied. That's wishful thinking though....

But to be honest, I think this move will prove futile after a few months (if they shot down at least 5 sites). P2P, nuff said.
 
Jul 29, 2014 9:17 AM

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Looks like they're mainly focusing on Chinese sites, so I doubt this will affect me very much, if at all.

But of course I watch all my anime legally....Yeah...
 
Jul 29, 2014 9:18 AM

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So will the legitimate site have English sub in it?
 
Jul 29, 2014 9:19 AM

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Really only affects streaming sites. Even then, it's a futile effort since if you take one down, another will pop up. It's a never-ending cycle that has been going on for ages - piracy will never be truly dealt with.

You either adjust your business and distribution model or waste your time blaming/"fighting" piracy.
 
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So will the legitimate site have English sub in it?


Probably not, chances are it will be raw or have Chinese subs at best, they'd mention languages available by now.


 
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Meh, I have Crunchyroll. c:
 
Jul 29, 2014 9:21 AM

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It'll be like taking 1 down, 5 more pops up in its place. Good freaking luck.

I agree. Japan is out of luck.
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Jul 29, 2014 9:21 AM

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"On August 1, the government will start simultaneously sending requests to delete illegal anime and manga contents..."

Requests?

Japan: "Please delete our stuff from your site."
Site: "Nope."
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Jul 29, 2014 9:24 AM
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NeoAnkara said:
So will the legitimate site have English sub in it?

Very unlikely.

Tachycardic said:
Meh, I have Crunchyroll. c:

For airing series, it's a great choice, but a large number of people will suffer from region locks. Not to mention that their manga lineup is too small.
 
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The only possible way they could really fight piracy is threatnoing to arrest people for piracy, which they technically could, since pirates provide illegal copies of content and that's finable (The 250,000 dollar fine) They'dneeed to really enforce that to fight piracy.
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StardustNyako said:
The only possible way they could really fight piracy is threatnoing to arrest people for piracy, which they technically could, since pirates provide illegal copies of content and that's finable (The 250,000 dollar fine) They'dneeed to really enforce that to fight piracy.


Already happens in Japan to uploaders, however with the Chinese it's impossible due to jurisdictional rules.


 
Jul 29, 2014 9:29 AM

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Is it only chinese sites or it would affect all the "illegal" sites from other countries? kinda ambiguous.

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For airing series, it's a great choice, but a large number of people will suffer from region locks. Not to mention that their manga lineup is too small.

Yes, this is the problem in here. All the legal sites are being locked from region locks. If all the illegal sites were exterminated. How could i watch anime? It would be good if they sells an original DVD in here but honestly, they arent.
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Jul 29, 2014 9:33 AM

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No more Kissanime,Anime Season,AnimeRush,AnimeGet or AnimePlus?? :((
 
Jul 29, 2014 9:35 AM

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No more Kissanime,Anime Season,AnimeRush,AnimeGet or AnimePlus?? :((


You stream? Eww. But no, they're safe.
 
Jul 29, 2014 9:37 AM

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KyDrop said:
No more Kissanime,Anime Season,AnimeRush,AnimeGet or AnimePlus?? :((


This is what the corporate tyranny does to the fans, they find ways to screw them over and bite the hands that feed them knowing well what could happen if they did. If so called "fixed" $400-700 BDs weren't already enough of a screw up for fans.


 
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KyDrop said:
No more Kissanime,Anime Season,AnimeRush,AnimeGet or AnimePlus?? :((


You stream? Eww. But no, they're safe.


Nice :D
 
Jul 29, 2014 9:38 AM
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I'm dubious about the Chinese part because I don't see how they will be able to reinforce it other than cooperating with the Chinese government... which is very unlikely....
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Jul 29, 2014 9:41 AM

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Pretty wishful thinking Japan. Let's not forget, it's a Chinese-Japanese agreement we're talking about here. For Japan, taking China down entirely on any issue requires getting every other world power involved and forcing them to stop at gun point.
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As long as my sources (mainly fansub groups) don't go down, I'm fine with it since in the end it won't succeed anyway. China's just going to respond with "lolnope".
 
Jul 29, 2014 9:47 AM

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Hopefully they don't take down sites I use to watch anime/read manga.

Why are they doing this now all of a sudden?

 
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Hopefully they don't take down sites I use to watch anime/read manga.

Why are they doing this now all of a sudden?


Because they are corporate tyrants and highway robbers, they better not charge per episode, that would piss every fan off 100 fold.


 
Jul 29, 2014 9:51 AM

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If the US cant(want?) completely fight piracy, I dont see how Japan will.
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Well for now they start from China but you never know when they will go for western sites.

I don't know if that's gonna benefit it them in the future because thanks to pirate sites many people got to know anime and start buying manga/anime merchandise.
I respect copyright and stuff but I believe that decisions like that might bite them in the ass.
 
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The big shonen titles (mainly naruto bleach and one piece) people will upload them to porn sites if necessary, I'm not even joking :(
 
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They can't help but be a bit procey at this point since hardly anyone buys. If only more people bought the DVDs so they could shrink the price (Or they could advertise DVDs at a cheaper price and have people "pledge" to buy this DVD at this low price when the DVD comes out)

Right now we are at a dead lock of highh prices due to people not wanting to buy. something has to change or piracy will remain an issue that'll only get worse.
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Y-yeah Japan! G-good luck with t-that... *bursts into laughter*
 
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Well for now they start from China but you never know when they will go for western sites.

I don't know if that's gonna benefit it them in the future because thanks to pirate sites many people got to know anime and start buying manga/anime merchandise.
I respect copyright and stuff but I believe that decisions like that might bite them in the ass.
I got into anime through Cable TV way back when. They need to make more agreementsto put anime there.
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Even if they do manage to take down lots of sites down, god knows how many will pop up in their stead.

I buy anime on DVD or Blu-ray, but I have no money to pay for every single show I like and there's also the fact that LOTS of shows haven't even been licensed and some probably never will be. It's impossible to watch every single anime legally.

Oh, and Crunchyroll. Not doing that. I don't like streaming my anime even if it's legal and there's region restrictions.

It's futile.
 
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Don't know whether it would be effective or not
In a way those piracy sites are actually promoting anime and manga outside japan. Getting rid of those in a way would be beneficial in term of decreasing potential loss, but....
 
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I understand why they are doing this but things just don't come to other countries in the appropriate languages really. Even with translators some things don't get translated.
 
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I got scared, but then again, it's the internetz.......so, yay!!

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No thanks, I'm not paying until a specific anime is offered (and it won't happen and it will just be for that anime only if it did). Also, It also won't really stop piracy, they are far too late. Another thing, I can see the site getting a region lock (there's zero mention of a region lock, but this is Japan we are dealing with, region lock is something that's dealt with on a daily basis).

They'd be cutting their own flesh if they did somehow manage to stop illegal distribution of manga and anime. Why do they think "one of their important cultural exports" has become so immensely popular? The Internet served as the best possible promotion those two mediums could ever get.


Exactly what I am thinking.
Well, good luck to them. If only I wasn't poor as shit, I would buy them Anime stuffs.

If they cut off one site, two more shall take it's place. ALL HAIL HYDRA!!
 
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The thing is, a lot of English sub sites are run by people in China as well. So it's hard to say it won't affect us at all. Hopefully the site that I regularly use won't go down, as that's all I really care about.

But honestly there are so many streaming/reading sites popping up every other day so it'll be hard for them to actually control anything.
 
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Sensus_97 said:
Well for now they start from China but you never know when they will go for western sites.

I don't know if that's gonna benefit it them in the future because thanks to pirate sites many people got to know anime and start buying manga/anime merchandise.
I respect copyright and stuff but I believe that decisions like that might bite them in the ass.
I got into anime through Cable TV way back when. They need to make more agreementsto put anime there.


Well same. I started with Sailor Moon, Dragon Ball etc back at 90s without knowing anything about the japanese culture tho. In my country (and I'm sure in other western countries) we had problems with the broadcast of new episodes.. Keeping watching same episodes was a never ending story, which sucked. And let's not forget the dubs... In some cases the dubs were horrible.
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Jul 29, 2014 10:19 AM
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Don't know the situation in other asian countries, but here in Germany I don't have the means to watch animes the way I prefer it. I only watch with eng subs, cause that way I can enjoy the fantastic voice actors, but don't have to be fluent in japanese to understand whats going on.

And I've watched so many animes, more than hundred, and neither am I financially able to buy all that stuff nor is everything available here. So if they really would shut down all those sites, they won't get a yen more from me, cause I just can't buy most things I want to watch.

But like many others said they won't succeed, cause they this is the internet. For the same reason they can't get all moviestreams down.
 
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While yes, for every site they succeed in getting taken down, or to remove content another will pop up, it's likely still worth their while to make the attempt.

Yes piracy will always be with us, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't try and prune it back once in a while. If they can knock things off the first few pages of Google search results, without needing to send a bunch of requests to Google, that's likely to be helpful to them.
 
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Japan, good luck with that lol. You're literally throwing away money at a futile operation.
 
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Okay. Good luck with that, Japan.

^ pretty much this
 
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It is useless. They can't stop piracy of manga and anime.
 
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Are they still trying? lol

Should realize by now this is going to be a never-ending fight with no conclusion.
 
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Thieves are always way smarter than police, especially this type of thieves :v
 
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As long as they don't take down my favorite sites, then i'm good.
 
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