Sword Art Online II Episode 4 Discussion

majiloveanime said:
AHAHAH Kirito thinks he's a guy cause he's flat chested but wait till he goes into the bathroom and sees he is a girl xD wait... Which bathroom is he going to go in anyway? 0.o

asad_watcher_ said:
the animation is orgasmic

Forgetfulness said:
No it wasn't. The most we got was a slight amount of focus on the NPC's face while shooting and Kirito going "I predicted the prediction lines haha"

There was very little to suggest what actually happened, going by the explanations we got from the LN readers

fanshii said:
^^^now that someone mentioned the Tales game, I feel sad because many japanese games stay in japan and there's bound to be so many good jrpgs i don't even know of ლ(ಠ_ಠლ)

As for the anime. KIRITO IS A CUTIE 10/10 would
Probably the episode I've most liked yet, hoping the rest of the episodes also will be good.

novaspire said:
Urgh I just watched this and I'm not one to hate for no reason, but there is so much bull in this episode that I just dont buy. For one the arcade machine. Look I get that people are saying its full dive, so your abilities carry over, but that just blatantly isnt true. Lets look at the facts. Kirito says he put most of his points in power, then some in agility. The first episode sets up the majority put most of their stats in agility. Now 2 problems arise here. 1) if it was purely his own ability, adding points into an agility stat would be worthless. 2) the amount of people preceeding him who failed, youre telling me not one of those had full agility builds like the meta was literally days ago, and even then, not one of them got lucky? I just dont buy it.

Secondly the buggy, Why bother to make a point of nobody can use it. There is no explanation as to why kirito would be one of the few who can control it, its not like he rides a vehicle in any other series, nor does it add anything other than "we should point out Kirito can do no wrong". Itdve been fine if hed just grabbed a buggy, but this just served to blow his abilities out of proportion.

Lastly, why is his avatar rare again? Lets be honest, if you have a game where you dont pick your own avatar, you wouldnt add in super rare avatars that you get at spawn. All that would do is serve to generate hate. I dont see the point, and I honestly don't think the writer of this knows basic game design.

Seeing as this has served to vent my rage a little bit some positives. Still loving the music, the atmosphere of wherever the hell they are is pretty nicely animated, and honestly it was refreshing to see Kirito fail with his pistol. If hed got a perfect shot then and there I wouldve just quit this outright.

Delca said:


I'm pretty sure this was explained earlier by somebody. The reasons for these are explained in the light novel, but not on the anime.
First, for the arcade game. You do see that Kirito is running left and right, and right after that we were shown that the gunner's eyes are following him, right ?
At that moment, Kirito is actually testing the gunners, confirming that the gunners runs on a same system as the mobs in SAO and ALO. In SAO and ALO, he fought mobs that shoots out arrows, venom and others long-distance attack. But, eventually he discovers that those mobs always looked to the direction where they'll attack, and thus, he was able to dodge. And in this case, the arcade game's gunners actually do the same thing.
That's why Kirito was able to clear the game, because he has fought that kind of enemy numerous time.

Second, the buggy. This was also explained in the novel.
You do remember that the whole SAO-series takes place at the near-future, around 2022-2025 right ?
At this period of time, manual motorcycle were rare. Most of them were replaced by automatic, electric one. That's why, not so many people is capable of riding the buggy, which is manual transmission.
So how come Kirito is capable of driving it ? Simple, look at his motorcycle in real world. He drives an old, manual transmission one given to him by Agil's friend.
Back to the game, Kirito isn't the only one capable of riding the buggy. In the novel, Sinon's line was actually "There isn't even many male players who can drive it well".
And to give you a little bit spoiler, later we will see someone who is capable of riding an even harder to handle vehicle than the buggy.

Third, rare avatar ?
Well, I couldn't argue about the game design thing. But, as for why Kirito is able to get the M9000 rare avatar is due to his enermous play-time of over 1 years in total.

PS : Sorry for my bad English.

novaspire said:
Urgh I just watched this and I'm not one to hate for no reason, but there is so much bull in this episode that I just dont buy. For one the arcade machine. Look I get that people are saying its full dive, so your abilities carry over, but that just blatantly isnt true. Lets look at the facts. Kirito says he put most of his points in power, then some in agility. The first episode sets up the majority put most of their stats in agility. Now 2 problems arise here. 1) if it was purely his own ability, adding points into an agility stat would be worthless. 2) the amount of people preceeding him who failed, youre telling me not one of those had full agility builds like the meta was literally days ago, and even then, not one of them got lucky? I just dont buy it.

Secondly the buggy, Why bother to make a point of nobody can use it. There is no explanation as to why kirito would be one of the few who can control it, its not like he rides a vehicle in any other series, nor does it add anything other than "we should point out Kirito can do no wrong". Itdve been fine if hed just grabbed a buggy, but this just served to blow his abilities out of proportion.

Lastly, why is his avatar rare again? Lets be honest, if you have a game where you dont pick your own avatar, you wouldnt add in super rare avatars that you get at spawn. All that would do is serve to generate hate. I dont see the point, and I honestly don't think the writer of this knows basic game design.

Seeing as this has served to vent my rage a little bit some positives. Still loving the music, the atmosphere of wherever the hell they are is pretty nicely animated, and honestly it was refreshing to see Kirito fail with his pistol. If hed got a perfect shot then and there I wouldve just quit this outright.

DancingJack said:
I'm not even mad that Kirito beat the arcade game, at this point I was actually thinking why the other players are so stupid. They pointed out more than enough how "pro" this game is and yet people rely on "prediction lines" to dodge bullets. I mean, really, that sounds pretty casual compared to our, not in the future, real world where you don't have "prediction lines" in shooters to see where you get hit in a second if you don't dodge. So what Kirito did was basically what we do while playing fps games, predicting where our opponents will shoot on our own instead of relying on red glowing markers. Jumping up after you get so close that the guy has to aim down a little bit (the point where apparently no one else was able to dodge with the "prediction lines") is something everyone with a little common sense would've figured out.

What I think is actually a little more annoying is that they feel to need to point out "how special" he is every 5 minutes. Oh, rare, female avatar? Nope, even more rare female looking male avatar. See those buggies over there, almost no one else is able to handle them in this freakin' online game, what a awesome, user friendly design choice. It's not like the developers have gone out of their way to add prediction lines to the shooting part so it's easier to dodge but vehicles that players can actually drive easily, what a crazy idea! Just let him get into the game like everyone else, just take the buggy and drive it, no reason to point out his ultra rare avatar and incredible driving skills. -_-

Those two, little parts were so unnecessary, really. If they didn't point out his rare avatar nobody would've noticed or cared (the other guys tried to hit on him because he was looking like a girl after all, not because his avatar was rare). And it's the same for the buggies, nobody would've noticed if later no other character would be driving around with those.

DancingJack said:
What I think is actually a little more annoying is that they feel to need to point out "how special" he is every 5 minutes.

novaspire said:


Well i cant argue some of the points here, but the first one, i dont care if he was looking at the eyes, he shouldnt have been fast enough due to his spec points being place elsewhere.

The bike one ill give you, cos i forgot he had his own bike. but still, its kinda stupid. To be honest is that even shown in the anime? if not the point is still valid.

As for the avatar, again, i dunno where you got that point. to me, i am only watching this, so the rare avatar was pulled out of nowhere, and seemed really poor choicewise to me.

Lastly, and to everyone defending a lot of points in here. YOU CANNOT USE THE LIGHT NOVELS AS A DEFENCE. I shouldnt have to read a completely different medium for this to make sense. Thats not how things work. Judge this anime by the anime itself, and as the anime goes, hardly anything makes sense, or is not explainied at all either due to time constraints or poor script.

To be honest is that even shown in the anime?

jdbe said:
It's all needed to feed kirito's badass meter. I tend to see a lot of excuses as to why kirito is able to do these things, problem is, they've read the manga,I haven't, so they can say those reasons. From watching both anime's, there's no fundamental reason as to why he can be so agile, even though he technically hasn't got as much agility as the people before him.

All in all, it's terrible writing in full view that only a couple of people will latch on to.

Splitter said:


It's not even that good a trap. I suppose if it gets us some "Asuna on top" doujinshi I could be down for it... wait, what?

Takuan_Soho said:
Another perfectly decent show.....

Overall series is holding at a steady 8, nothing that is great, but nothing that detracts. Just nice entertainment.

StormBoi said:
Kirito is just to OP, and everyone is just naturally attracted to him.

euphoriia said:
10 minutes into game - beats minigame noone can win
12 minutes into game - buys weapon nobody can use
15 minutes into game - drives vehicle nobody can drive

euphoriia said:
It seems like Kirito can do stuff just for the sake of doing stuff that's not really explained.

10 minutes into game - beats minigame noone can win
12 minutes into game - buys weapon nobody can use
15 minutes into game - drives vehicle nobody can drive

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LastChapter said:


"It's not that he can predict the bullet line, he's actually reading the shooting line from the enemy's eyes which allows him to grasp where the trajectory of the bullet will be.

It was explained in the novels that he received training in SAO and ALO with similar enemies that would should arrows, venom, magic, etc."