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| lol Iva's a she now. honestly I don't care that much for all the fight's going on right now even though they are awesome they're just preparation for the 'real' fights.. I just want to see White Beard rage~! |
| Wait, so after sending all the Strawhats to separate ways, Kuma agrees to have all his memories erased? Huh? Why? And why did he send them apart in the first place? :P Anyway, Boa is soooooo cute and hilarious and I love her. XDD Mhm, Mihawk, huh? I don't want him to fight Luffy. His true opponent should be Zoro. :O |
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NoyaChan said: Wait, so after sending all the Strawhats to separate ways, Kuma agrees to have all his memories erased? Huh? Why? And why did he send them apart in the first place? :P to save them? at this point i will assume kuma becoming a pacifista has nothing to do with the SH, especially he started his modifications long ago. plus, it's not really luffy v. mihawk, it's more like luffy surviving mihawk's blade. it's not a fight, it's a test (like with WB). |
| Niceeee, Boa's cuteness has no end XD |
| Ha ha ha! I loved it when Boa was so excited about 'marriage'. Brilliant! And Kuma being turning into a machine bit by bit. He really reminds me of the Terminator now. Oda why do you always have to leave us on a cliffhanger??? |
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Animegal9215 said: Ha ha ha! I loved it when Boa was so excited about 'marriage'. Brilliant! Big Time For Hancock ! Loved that part too ^^ Really wonder what was Kuma's conditions to let the government make him a puppet... Don't think he'll put himself as experiment, just like that... Mmh... I'm curious about Buggy's plan too... :P So many actions to follow ! One piece is awesome : don't have the time to breath !! lol |
| Everyone is supposing that Luffy will be saved again, just like he was saved from Kuma by Ivankov and from Smokes by Hancock. If he'll be saved again, it will be the third time and it's not Oda's style to repeat same thing over and over again (except Impel Down's level/chapter formula). Also, Buggy is way too weak and I believe Marco will interfere only if it's Luffy vs. logia-fighter. fisher_88 said: plus, it's not really luffy v. mihawk, it's more like luffy surviving mihawk's blade. it's not a fight, it's a test (like with WB). I agree. Although Mihawk is indeed a dangerous opponent, if Luffy is able to prove his strenght there's even an possibility that Mihawk betrays the World Goverment for Luffy. I believe that when WB war is over, there's no loyal Shichibukai left. Heck, even now there's only Kuma (I still can't think he's really as loayl as it seems), Donflamingo (he does what he wants) and Mihawk (nobody knows what he thinks) still fighting against WB. |
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| not another 2 weeks, damn! |
Henna said: there's even an possibility that Mihawk betrays the World Goverment for Luffy huh ?? why is that ? o_O dont think he'll 'betray' WG, he will stay shichibukai and fight zoro ... |
| I also think that Shanks is the next one to show up XD |
zerron said: Do you really think that Shanks will endanger his entire crew just to help a rival? He is already doing too much by holding back Kaidou...I also think that Shanks is the next one to show up XD |
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| yeah Shanks will have his own Arc, as well as Dragon i think... dont think Dragon will make an appearance here :( |
| lawl I have a feeling that there will be a lot of new shichis after this war :3 |
| I can't help but think the strawhats are gonna show up and kick some major ass soon :P |
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Zell182 said: I can't help but think the strawhats are gonna show up and kick some major ass soon :P HELL NO. they dont space here... there are way too many characters here in this war, so its too confusing if they will appear.. + they wont appear)) they havent finished there adventures yet) |
| They will probably meet back at Shabondy and then free every prisoner on that island after defeating Celestial Dragons for good. |
| Just an OK chapter. This battle is more and more annoying. Too much people with too much power. But Mihawk is so cool! ^^ |
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lequinow said: We're being pampered with characters we've only seen in single panels, and loads of new characters, doubtless to feature again if they survive! How can that be annoying on any level? Unless if annoying somehow means exciting in your dictionary, then i see...Just an OK chapter. This battle is more and more annoying. Too much people with too much power. But Mihawk is so cool! ^^ |
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smokes said: I wouldn't be so certain about that. Remember they landed on their islands at the same time as Luffy. Though i am not supporting the idea that they will join the battle.Zell182 said: I can't help but think the strawhats are gonna show up and kick some major ass soon :P HELL NO. they dont space here... there are way too many characters here in this war, so its too confusing if they will appear.. + they wont appear)) they havent finished there adventures yet) |
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| well yeah, but look at the zoro's cover, Oda showed it now, in the middle of the battle... that means that they are still out there training etc.. he wont make a chapter where will show them how they got off the island and going to luffy just to be in the war)) the reunion will be after this war ofc, after he saves ace, then they will meet somehow at that boat ) with the help of the paper) |
smokes said: Actually, the event you are looking at now concerning Zoro, probably happened when Luffy was being chased around at Amazon Lily. I don't see how showing it now(during the battle) would mean that they are still training. I don't know how long it's been since then but they're probably already at Shambody...well yeah, but look at the zoro's cover, Oda showed it now, in the middle of the battle... that means that they are still out there training etc.. he wont make a chapter where will show them how they got off the island and going to luffy just to be in the war)) the reunion will be after this war ofc, after he saves ace, then they will meet somehow at that boat ) with the help of the paper) |
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Tomoe said: They are not formally training, they where dropped in regions where they would learn new skills. I'm more than sure that they are desperately worried about their Nakama and thus would try their best to make it back to Shambody. Meaning, they probably won't spent more than 1-4 days on their islands...how can they? it is only nine or ten days after they got apart... their training will last longer than that, at least to reach shabondy and I thnk Oda uses this war to give the crew a break for training |
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Tomoe said: We can't honestly say that for sure! From what we know so far, Kuma was helping them survive! The benefit they get from the islands is the topping on the cake i guess. From this thread we can surmise that he has not scattered them too far apart geologically. Meaning they would easily regroup within a few days. I'm willing to bet they've all regrouped already! And might be sailing off to where Luffy is fighting, but of course they will arrive long beyond the climax of the battle. imostill it is early for them to be on Shabondy, luffy can make it to Impel down because he was on a marine ship, I don't know how can they make it to Shabondy from their unusual and scattered islands in this short period... |
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gastricjuice said: From this thread we can surmise that he has not scattered them too far apart geologically. Meaning they would easily regroup within a few days. What are you talking about? There's no evidence to surmise the fact that they aren't scattered far apart. On the contrary, you can surmise they ARE scattered rather far apart. They are all in different blues as well. Robin is in East Blue and most of the other SH's are on various islands on the Grand Line. Whether these islands are close to one another, who knows. |
vindemon64 said: I never said there is clear evidence to surmise what i speculated. Like i said, the only proposition there is to suggest that he did not scatter them ridiculous distances all over the grand line, is the fact that he was saving them(Not sending them to pre-planned islands where a *Master Roshi* would be waiting for them for intense training!)! What are you talking about? There's no evidence to surmise the fact that they aren't scattered far apart. On the contrary, you can surmise they ARE scattered rather far apart. They are all in different blues as well. Robin is in East Blue and most of the other SH's are on various islands on the Grand Line. Whether these islands are close to one another, who knows. East blue is not far from the grand line! Depending on which section of the grand line they entered, the Other side of the Redline(Which would mean they have to go under the red line to reach Shambody) or the same side they where sailing on when heading towards the redline(Which would mean they have to skip the calm belt) |
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gastricjuice said: vindemon64 said: I never said there is clear evidence to surmise what i speculated. Like i said, the only proposition there is to suggest that he did not scatter them ridiculous distances all over the grand line, is the fact that he was saving them(Not sending them to pre-planned islands where a *Master Roshi* would be waiting for them for intense training!)! What are you talking about? There's no evidence to surmise the fact that they aren't scattered far apart. On the contrary, you can surmise they ARE scattered rather far apart. They are all in different blues as well. Robin is in East Blue and most of the other SH's are on various islands on the Grand Line. Whether these islands are close to one another, who knows. East blue is not far from the grand line! Depending on which section of the grand line they entered, the Other side of the Redline(Which would mean they have to go under the red line to reach Shambody) or the same side they where sailing on when heading towards the redline(Which would mean they have to skip the calm belt) In the quote I highlighted a few posts above, you said that "from this thread we can surmise...." which, the way I read it, meant that there was enough evidence to validate that hypothesis. And I don't think you can assume that just because he saved them (which, if we're talking about technicalities. is also another assumption because we don't have written validation that Kuma intent was indeed "saving") that it means he sent them all close to one another. If that were the case, one could argue that he would have sent them all to the same place. :/ However, the whole "east blue is not far from the Grand Line" is a bit preposterous. In that case, all of the blues are not far from the Grand Line. It really depends on what island they landed on to determine how "far" it is from the Grand Line. Not to mention that the Grand Line is immense itself. But anyway, this is all nitpicking small points, and in the end, I really don't think it matters all that much at the moment. |
gastricjuice said: This meant that if you are thinking on the logical "thread" that he is in fact trying to help them."from this thread we can surmise..." vindemon64 said: What on earth was he doing then? We both know he holds some regard for the strawhats from his encounter with Zoro.And I don't think you can assume that just because he saved them (which, if we're talking about technicalities. is also another assumption because we don't have written validation that Kuma intent was indeed "saving") that it means he sent them all close to one another. vindemon64 said: True, but are you willing to argue that He sent one of them to the new world? The islands where they could possibly improve are the topping on the cake-he did after all know that they're relatively weak...If that were the case, one could argue that he would have sent them all to the same place. :/ vindemon64 said: Well ofcourse all blues are part of the grand line, they're just separated by the calm belt...However, the whole "east blue is not far from the Grand Line" is a bit preposterous. In that case, all of the blues are not far from the Grand Line. It really depends on what island they landed on to determine how "far" it is from the Grand Line. Not to mention that the Grand Line is immense itself. But anyway, this is all nitpicking small points, and in the end, I really don't think it matters all that much at the moment. I really need to get the definition of nitpicking on these forums i think might have it wrong. Nothing wrong with criticizing the other persons entire post and opinions so long as they are relevant to the matter. Actually saw no nitpicking in your post -_- Anyway, If you can't defend everything you say then you really shouldn't be saying anything at all... |
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| gastricjuice -- so do you think Oda will make 1-2 chapter right away to ''complete'' there adventures and showing how they got of the island ?? it would be very fast... |
| He's more likely to do that on the cover pages, even if they do appear(and i doubt) It wouldn't be odd to have a cover story of a character while that character is in that current chapter since the cover depicts much older events... |
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| in my opinion the next cover wont be with there Adventures... but Oda will end there adventures right after the big war... like before impel down ark.... he showed a little info, then on covers, then after this arc will continue )) |
gastricjuice said: Anyway, If you can't defend everything you say then you really shouldn't be saying anything at all... ??? What are you talking about? Defend what? I already counter-argued all of your points in my previous response. As for my Kuma response, you misinterpreted my point. I do agree with the assumption that Kuma "saved" the Strawhats during the attack by the Pacifista and Kizaru. My only point was because it hasn't been proven factually yet (i.e., can you point me to the exact page where Kuma stated that he planned on saving the Strawhats?) in the manga, its still only an assumption derived from the events that has occurred. And I never said Kuma sent them to the New World. I actually have no clue how you even came to the conclusion that I mentioned that. All I was saying is that from the way you're making it sound (maybe I'm reading it wrong), it seems like you think just because they are on the "Grand Line," it means they are all automatically close together. And all I was trying to say is that's a ridiculous statement. |
vindemon64 said: Well, i was not referring to you in particular. This is more related to what i said about nitpicking and criticizing everything...??? What are you talking about? Defend what? I already counter-argued all of your points in my previous response. vindemon64 said: Pretty much the only thing one can surmise given what has happened, his character and the fact that he is now dead. He sent most of them to places where they'd mysteriously benefit from simply being there! Come on! But i guess One Piece is huge, who knows what's going on underneath whats already underneath the woodworks :PAs for my Kuma response, you misinterpreted my point. I do agree with the assumption that Kuma "saved" the Strawhats during the attack by the Pacifista and Kizaru. My only point was because it hasn't been proven factually yet (i.e., can you point me to the exact page where Kuma stated that he planned on saving the Strawhats?) in the manga, its still only an assumption derived from the events that has occurred. vindemon64 said: Well, i got the feeling you're saying he scattered them everywhere regardless of position from the rest, meaning anywhere around the world.And I never said Kuma sent them to the New World. I actually have no clue how you even came to the conclusion that I mentioned that. vindemon64 said: All I was saying is that from the way you're making it sound (maybe I'm reading it wrong), it seems like you think just because they are on the "Grand Line," it means they are all automatically close together. And all I was trying to say is that's a ridiculous statement. gastricjuice said: I never said they where in close vacinity, just that it wouldn't be a great burden when they need to regroup.From this thread we can surmise that he has not scattered them too far apart geologically Tomoe said: How am i imposing my thoughts on others? I actually make special attempt to not do that -_- Giving the other person ample opportunity to raise their view and not branding their arguments ridiculous! I've always been indifferent...sometimes it is pointless to argue about things in this forum, it is pointless to impose your thoughts onto someone else and I think gastricjuice I think that is what you are doing... everybody states their thoughts, and your thoughts are not facts too... everybody can miss some points and even if they can't defend them they can share so that more close thoughts appear or predicting becomes more fun... well, actually our thoughts don't matter what matters is Oda's thoughts, so we will wait and see... <edit>Removed huge error xD And not one person noticed XD Hahahaha! |
gastricjuiceOct 11, 2009 2:51 PM
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smokes said: Hopefully he updates us on Bon Chan T_Tin my opinion the next cover wont be with there Adventures... but Oda will end there adventures right after the big war... like before impel down ark.... he showed a little info, then on covers, then after this arc will continue )) |
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gastricjuice said: Gosh, what an asshole!I really need to get the definition of nitpicking on these forums i think might have it wrong. Nothing wrong with criticizing the other persons entire post and opinions so long as they are relevant to the matter. Actually saw no nitpicking in your post -_- Anyway, If you can't defend everything you say then you really shouldn't be saying anything at all... |
gastricjuiceOct 12, 2009 1:42 AM
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| I definitely think that Kuma saved straw hats ass as he whispered something to Rayleigh in the middle of his fight with Kizaru that even surprised Rayleigh. I believe it was about the plan to get the straw hats out of there and by doing that, Kuma in a way opposed to the orders of the government since Kizaru was also disappointed with his actions and he had a brainwash or something like that afterwards. As for the next chapter, I'm speechless and just doing what I can, waiting for Oda sensei to rise the curtains once again. Imho, neither will the straw hat crew nor Dragon, Shark vs.. will make an appareance in the near future, at least in this arc. But this way, it's pretty impossible for them to beat the three captain and Garp(? maybe will fight ?) Though it would be incredibly awesome to see WhiteBeard take on the three admirals! |
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| no, Dragon has more than 50% to appear... because they showed Flashbacks with him in the Impel Down arc, so that we will be prepared for his arrival) |
| You know, you do not have to reply every post bashing your ideas which are purely assumptions of yours although you have a tendency of making them seem like "what i say is right!". We do not need any other versions of "Fai" in another anime/manga thread. Thank you. So, a mere flashback makes Dragon's appareance more than fifty percent probable? Though I agree that without any further assistance, WB seems to be at a disadvantage, at least in numbers. However, with a huge help such as Dragon and his army, it'll be an instant game over for the WG. |
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| Boa's scene was hilarious as was Luffy's "Sumo attack"! The ending was WOW |
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| I feel kinda sorry for Kuma. But.. LUFFY AND MIHAWK UP NEXT. |
Life is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated.~ |
| Kuma is now 100% robot, that's sad. |
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| and now is Mihawk the obstacle!!! |
| Marriage? Lol Hancock is awesome! |
"At some point, I stopped hoping." |
| OMG! I just can't picture the Straw Hats crew's reaction if they found out that such looker like Hancock would fall for Luffy. I'm not at all interested about Luffy fighting Mihawk. He will only slow Luffy down and he's not an opponent you can easily defeat. Mihawk vs. Zoro is something I'd really look forward to in the future since they both use swords. |
 She got him back. If you understand the characters well enough, you'd know she did! |
| Shanks somehow gotta show up. No way is Luffy defeating Mihawk. |
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